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On September 15 2015 21:47 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 21:45 LightningStrike wrote:On September 15 2015 21:42 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 21:39 LightningStrike wrote:On September 15 2015 21:37 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 21:33 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and ofc people want to lynch me I went afk. I honestly went to pokemon but I had take care of some college stuff when I got home. Now about the Martyr claim: I don't really like it myself because if you think about who would the martyr protect if they protect anyone? I feel like rayn could be mafia for his martyr hunting despite him being the main person speaking in the thread. 1 - I don't understand your question 2 - Why is rayn mafia for martyr hunting ? Because role hunting I think is a stupid idea esp because of the mechanics involving about mafia can guess someone's role correctly and bam they are dead. Martyrs are actually useful as the game progresses and Rayn knows that. Role hunting != martyr hunting. So: why is rayn mafia for martyr hunting ? In other words: why is martyr claiming D1 bad ? And I still don't understand your question. I didn't ask a question I was just giving my thoughts about the claim. Martyrs can protect town leaders or the person who gets the Holy Grail as the game progress. Talking about this: Show nested quote +
I don't really like it myself because if you think about who would the martyr protect if they protect anyone?
Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 21:45 LightningStrike wrote:
Martyrs can protect town leaders or the person who gets the Holy Grail as the game progress. I was thinking like you, but because of rolecop + soup it doesn't actually work very well. Martyring protecting just means the target is going to die next night without a possible angel save.
I was trying to see more of what Rayn was thinking because I thought it was a dumb idea to Martyr hunt. The Angel save could be used still but not as effective true but still the Martyr can do their job for them?
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On September 15 2015 21:48 Rels wrote:Can you answer this too ? Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 16:56 Rels wrote:Fucking seriously. rayn posts this explaining why martyr not claiming is a bad idea: On September 15 2015 07:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now the martyr role, if used and not claimed does the following:
1) You die, noone in the town knows who mafia killed.
2) noone in the town knows your role, mafia does
3) noone in the town knows the role mafia tried to kill, mafia does.
It gives mafia an uncontested soup kill (their actual night kill) AND it gives them a possible fakeclaim (martyr) later on. Then LS post this 3 minutes later: On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all? @LS did you read rayn post (the first quote in this post) before asking a question ?
Yes but it wasn't really detailed about benefits of not claiming Martyr from him and have him post it in the thread but he didn't though.
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I don't understand you.
You think rayn is doing a bad thing martyr hunting. You're the first to react to his plan.
And instead of explaining WHY martyr hunting is bad, you post this:
On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all?
Then you gtfo.
I think you're mafia.
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On September 15 2015 21:51 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 21:48 Rels wrote:Can you answer this too ? On September 15 2015 16:56 Rels wrote:Fucking seriously. rayn posts this explaining why martyr not claiming is a bad idea: On September 15 2015 07:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now the martyr role, if used and not claimed does the following:
1) You die, noone in the town knows who mafia killed.
2) noone in the town knows your role, mafia does
3) noone in the town knows the role mafia tried to kill, mafia does.
It gives mafia an uncontested soup kill (their actual night kill) AND it gives them a possible fakeclaim (martyr) later on. Then LS post this 3 minutes later: On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all? @LS did you read rayn post (the first quote in this post) before asking a question ? Yes but it wasn't really detailed about benefits of not claiming Martyr from him and have him post it in the thread but he didn't though.
Why would he fucking post the benefits of martyr not claiming ?? He thinks there are no benefits! He even replied to you exactly that if I remember.
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On September 15 2015 21:33 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and ofc people want to lynch me I went afk. I honestly went to pokemon but I had take care of some college stuff when I got home. Now about the Martyr claim: I don't really like it myself because if you think about who would the martyr protect if they protect anyone? I feel like rayn could be mafia for his martyr hunting despite him being the main person speaking in the thread.
On September 15 2015 21:40 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 21:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Also people that tend push are generally are mafia when I'm given my history. I never even played with rels before that could the most true thing of the rule of LS Town which if a new player who never played with me before tries to push me chances are they are mafia looking for a easy lynch. I had this happen time and time again so(shrugs). There are multiple people pushing you. Why are you attacking me, when I'm voting The Shining ?
On September 15 2015 16:54 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 07:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I don't have much time atm but I'm here and Town so let's get down to business! Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all? Alright that is super scummy. The first post looks like he doesn't know what to say.The second post is a fucking useless question that is answered by rayn's previous post about why martyr should claim. Plus, a question is not what I call "getting down to business".
Does it look like Rels pushed you for being afk?
What makes you think this is a mafia-motivated post (the third quote)?
I am making the assumption that if you read up to the part where Vivax claimed you would have covered this section that I quoted.
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EBWOP - Last post directed at LS.
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On September 15 2015 21:56 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 21:33 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and ofc people want to lynch me I went afk. I honestly went to pokemon but I had take care of some college stuff when I got home. Now about the Martyr claim: I don't really like it myself because if you think about who would the martyr protect if they protect anyone? I feel like rayn could be mafia for his martyr hunting despite him being the main person speaking in the thread. Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 21:40 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 21:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Also people that tend push are generally are mafia when I'm given my history. I never even played with rels before that could the most true thing of the rule of LS Town which if a new player who never played with me before tries to push me chances are they are mafia looking for a easy lynch. I had this happen time and time again so(shrugs). There are multiple people pushing you. Why are you attacking me, when I'm voting The Shining ? Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 16:54 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 07:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I don't have much time atm but I'm here and Town so let's get down to business! On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all? Alright that is super scummy. The first post looks like he doesn't know what to say.The second post is a fucking useless question that is answered by rayn's previous post about why martyr should claim. Plus, a question is not what I call "getting down to business". Does it look like Rels pushed you for being afk? What makes you think this is a mafia-motivated post (the third quote)? I am making the assumption that if you read up to the part where Vivax claimed you would have covered this section that I quoted.
That was from earlier(I had misread the thread as I only skimmed the thread after my last post from yesterday) and he was having his vote on Shining who is afk but I don't know if it's for real life reasons or not but I really don't like lurker lynches myself.
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On September 15 2015 21:59 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 21:56 Half the Sky wrote:On September 15 2015 21:33 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and ofc people want to lynch me I went afk. I honestly went to pokemon but I had take care of some college stuff when I got home. Now about the Martyr claim: I don't really like it myself because if you think about who would the martyr protect if they protect anyone? I feel like rayn could be mafia for his martyr hunting despite him being the main person speaking in the thread. On September 15 2015 21:40 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 21:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Also people that tend push are generally are mafia when I'm given my history. I never even played with rels before that could the most true thing of the rule of LS Town which if a new player who never played with me before tries to push me chances are they are mafia looking for a easy lynch. I had this happen time and time again so(shrugs). There are multiple people pushing you. Why are you attacking me, when I'm voting The Shining ? On September 15 2015 16:54 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 07:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I don't have much time atm but I'm here and Town so let's get down to business! On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all? Alright that is super scummy. The first post looks like he doesn't know what to say.The second post is a fucking useless question that is answered by rayn's previous post about why martyr should claim. Plus, a question is not what I call "getting down to business". Does it look like Rels pushed you for being afk? What makes you think this is a mafia-motivated post (the third quote)? I am making the assumption that if you read up to the part where Vivax claimed you would have covered this section that I quoted. That was from earlier(I had misread the thread as I only skimmed the thread after my last post from yesterday) and he was having his vote on Shining who is afk but I don't know if it's for real life reasons or not but I really don't like lurker lynches myself.
I'm not voting Shining for being AFK.
I'm not scumreading you for being AFK.
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On September 15 2015 22:00 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 21:59 LightningStrike wrote:On September 15 2015 21:56 Half the Sky wrote:On September 15 2015 21:33 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and ofc people want to lynch me I went afk. I honestly went to pokemon but I had take care of some college stuff when I got home. Now about the Martyr claim: I don't really like it myself because if you think about who would the martyr protect if they protect anyone? I feel like rayn could be mafia for his martyr hunting despite him being the main person speaking in the thread. On September 15 2015 21:40 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 21:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Also people that tend push are generally are mafia when I'm given my history. I never even played with rels before that could the most true thing of the rule of LS Town which if a new player who never played with me before tries to push me chances are they are mafia looking for a easy lynch. I had this happen time and time again so(shrugs). There are multiple people pushing you. Why are you attacking me, when I'm voting The Shining ? On September 15 2015 16:54 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 07:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I don't have much time atm but I'm here and Town so let's get down to business! On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all? Alright that is super scummy. The first post looks like he doesn't know what to say.The second post is a fucking useless question that is answered by rayn's previous post about why martyr should claim. Plus, a question is not what I call "getting down to business". Does it look like Rels pushed you for being afk? What makes you think this is a mafia-motivated post (the third quote)? I am making the assumption that if you read up to the part where Vivax claimed you would have covered this section that I quoted. That was from earlier(I had misread the thread as I only skimmed the thread after my last post from yesterday) and he was having his vote on Shining who is afk but I don't know if it's for real life reasons or not but I really don't like lurker lynches myself. I'm not voting Shining for being AFK. I'm not scumreading you for being AFK.
Seem like it though at the time?
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BTW that was rude to say GTFO regardless of your alignment people might actually rage quit regardless of their alignment if you say mean stuff towards them.
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On September 15 2015 22:01 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 22:00 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 21:59 LightningStrike wrote:On September 15 2015 21:56 Half the Sky wrote:On September 15 2015 21:33 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and ofc people want to lynch me I went afk. I honestly went to pokemon but I had take care of some college stuff when I got home. Now about the Martyr claim: I don't really like it myself because if you think about who would the martyr protect if they protect anyone? I feel like rayn could be mafia for his martyr hunting despite him being the main person speaking in the thread. On September 15 2015 21:40 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 21:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Also people that tend push are generally are mafia when I'm given my history. I never even played with rels before that could the most true thing of the rule of LS Town which if a new player who never played with me before tries to push me chances are they are mafia looking for a easy lynch. I had this happen time and time again so(shrugs). There are multiple people pushing you. Why are you attacking me, when I'm voting The Shining ? On September 15 2015 16:54 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 07:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I don't have much time atm but I'm here and Town so let's get down to business! On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all? Alright that is super scummy. The first post looks like he doesn't know what to say.The second post is a fucking useless question that is answered by rayn's previous post about why martyr should claim. Plus, a question is not what I call "getting down to business". Does it look like Rels pushed you for being afk? What makes you think this is a mafia-motivated post (the third quote)? I am making the assumption that if you read up to the part where Vivax claimed you would have covered this section that I quoted. That was from earlier(I had misread the thread as I only skimmed the thread after my last post from yesterday) and he was having his vote on Shining who is afk but I don't know if it's for real life reasons or not but I really don't like lurker lynches myself. I'm not voting Shining for being AFK. I'm not scumreading you for being AFK. Seem like it though at the time?
What time ?
You're not making sense.
And you still don't explain why rayn should have been the one explaining the benefits of martyr not claiming D1. YOU should have been the one doing that if you didn't agree. You cannot ask a question, AFK, then come back 12 hours later and be like "Why did people listen to rayn ? Martyr hunting is a bad idea!"
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On September 15 2015 22:04 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 22:01 LightningStrike wrote:On September 15 2015 22:00 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 21:59 LightningStrike wrote:On September 15 2015 21:56 Half the Sky wrote:On September 15 2015 21:33 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and ofc people want to lynch me I went afk. I honestly went to pokemon but I had take care of some college stuff when I got home. Now about the Martyr claim: I don't really like it myself because if you think about who would the martyr protect if they protect anyone? I feel like rayn could be mafia for his martyr hunting despite him being the main person speaking in the thread. On September 15 2015 21:40 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 21:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Also people that tend push are generally are mafia when I'm given my history. I never even played with rels before that could the most true thing of the rule of LS Town which if a new player who never played with me before tries to push me chances are they are mafia looking for a easy lynch. I had this happen time and time again so(shrugs). There are multiple people pushing you. Why are you attacking me, when I'm voting The Shining ? On September 15 2015 16:54 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 07:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I don't have much time atm but I'm here and Town so let's get down to business! On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all? Alright that is super scummy. The first post looks like he doesn't know what to say.The second post is a fucking useless question that is answered by rayn's previous post about why martyr should claim. Plus, a question is not what I call "getting down to business". Does it look like Rels pushed you for being afk? What makes you think this is a mafia-motivated post (the third quote)? I am making the assumption that if you read up to the part where Vivax claimed you would have covered this section that I quoted. That was from earlier(I had misread the thread as I only skimmed the thread after my last post from yesterday) and he was having his vote on Shining who is afk but I don't know if it's for real life reasons or not but I really don't like lurker lynches myself. I'm not voting Shining for being AFK. I'm not scumreading you for being AFK. Seem like it though at the time? What time ? You're not making sense. And you still don't explain why rayn should have been the one explaining the benefits of martyr not claiming D1. YOU should have been the one doing that if you didn't agree. You cannot ask a question, AFK, then come back 12 hours later and be like "Why did people listen to rayn ? Martyr hunting is a bad idea!"
Because should always see two sides of a coin in terms of benefits of claiming or not and I finding odd he didn't though.
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On September 15 2015 22:02 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW that was rude to say GTFO regardless of your alignment people might actually rage quit regardless of their alignment if you say mean stuff towards them.
OK regardless of alignment, you need to calm down and read properly.
Read the sentence again.
On September 15 2015 21:52 Rels wrote:I don't understand you. You think rayn is doing a bad thing martyr hunting. You're the first to react to his plan. And instead of explaining WHY martyr hunting is bad, you post this: Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all? Then you gtfo. I think you're mafia.
I was saying you left the thread after asking rayn a question.
I didn't say you needed to gtfo right now.
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Read geript's filter a few times. Can't get a good read on him either. He's voted LS for deadline but I don't understand this part.
On September 15 2015 10:46 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all? When he's town he'll still follow the leader, but he'll generally over talk about a random reason he's thought against it. A less than LS question.
He presumably has some scumread based on the vote but I can't tell if this part is a soft push/non-committal read based on the wording. It seems a bit cautious though based on the wording.
I'm going to say slight scumread.
Everything else I read of his filter I feel could come from either alignment.
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On September 15 2015 21:43 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 21:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 21:36 Half the Sky wrote:
EBWOP - Damn quotes.
No I'm not. i meant, you read my reasoning why claiming is good before you said you are not the martyr, right? Yes, that and other people claiming "not martyr".
Okay so;
you read the mechanics, you read my reasoning.
When you read my reasoning why did you not notice it conflicts with the mechanics (because it does)?
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On September 15 2015 22:05 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 22:04 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 22:01 LightningStrike wrote:On September 15 2015 22:00 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 21:59 LightningStrike wrote:On September 15 2015 21:56 Half the Sky wrote:On September 15 2015 21:33 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and ofc people want to lynch me I went afk. I honestly went to pokemon but I had take care of some college stuff when I got home. Now about the Martyr claim: I don't really like it myself because if you think about who would the martyr protect if they protect anyone? I feel like rayn could be mafia for his martyr hunting despite him being the main person speaking in the thread. On September 15 2015 21:40 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 21:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Also people that tend push are generally are mafia when I'm given my history. I never even played with rels before that could the most true thing of the rule of LS Town which if a new player who never played with me before tries to push me chances are they are mafia looking for a easy lynch. I had this happen time and time again so(shrugs). There are multiple people pushing you. Why are you attacking me, when I'm voting The Shining ? On September 15 2015 16:54 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 07:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I don't have much time atm but I'm here and Town so let's get down to business! On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all? Alright that is super scummy. The first post looks like he doesn't know what to say.The second post is a fucking useless question that is answered by rayn's previous post about why martyr should claim. Plus, a question is not what I call "getting down to business". Does it look like Rels pushed you for being afk? What makes you think this is a mafia-motivated post (the third quote)? I am making the assumption that if you read up to the part where Vivax claimed you would have covered this section that I quoted. That was from earlier(I had misread the thread as I only skimmed the thread after my last post from yesterday) and he was having his vote on Shining who is afk but I don't know if it's for real life reasons or not but I really don't like lurker lynches myself. I'm not voting Shining for being AFK. I'm not scumreading you for being AFK. Seem like it though at the time? What time ? You're not making sense. And you still don't explain why rayn should have been the one explaining the benefits of martyr not claiming D1. YOU should have been the one doing that if you didn't agree. You cannot ask a question, AFK, then come back 12 hours later and be like "Why did people listen to rayn ? Martyr hunting is a bad idea!" Because should always see two sides of a coin in terms of benefits of claiming or not and I finding odd he didn't though.
explain the other side then.
i already did explain why there isn't one.
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On September 15 2015 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 21:43 Half the Sky wrote:On September 15 2015 21:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 21:36 Half the Sky wrote:
EBWOP - Damn quotes.
No I'm not. i meant, you read my reasoning why claiming is good before you said you are not the martyr, right? Yes, that and other people claiming "not martyr". Okay so; you read the mechanics, you read my reasoning. When you read my reasoning why did you not notice it conflicts with the mechanics (because it does)?
Like I said, I derped. I really have no good explanation.
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On September 15 2015 22:05 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 22:02 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW that was rude to say GTFO regardless of your alignment people might actually rage quit regardless of their alignment if you say mean stuff towards them. OK regardless of alignment, you need to calm down and read properly. Read the sentence again. Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 21:52 Rels wrote:I don't understand you. You think rayn is doing a bad thing martyr hunting. You're the first to react to his plan. And instead of explaining WHY martyr hunting is bad, you post this: On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all? Then you gtfo. I think you're mafia. I was saying you left the thread after asking rayn a question. I didn't say you needed to gtfo right now.
On September 15 2015 21:52 Rels wrote:I don't understand you. You think rayn is doing a bad thing martyr hunting. You're the first to react to his plan. And instead of explaining WHY martyr hunting is bad, you post this: Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all? Then you gtfo. I think you're mafia.
I taken that way but yet I didn't gtfo? Also if you had read my first post I already had said I wasn't going be around for long(longer than expected though because having College stuff to take care of)
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On September 15 2015 22:10 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 21:43 Half the Sky wrote:On September 15 2015 21:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 21:36 Half the Sky wrote:
EBWOP - Damn quotes.
No I'm not. i meant, you read my reasoning why claiming is good before you said you are not the martyr, right? Yes, that and other people claiming "not martyr". Okay so; you read the mechanics, you read my reasoning. When you read my reasoning why did you not notice it conflicts with the mechanics (because it does)? Like I said, I derped. I really have no good explanation.
fair enough.
stop derping.
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