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On September 15 2015 22:35 LightningStrike wrote:I here still but I aint claiming unless I have to and will reread the thread later. Rels check all my games out for my meta and you might be able to give a better read on me there the database have all my games I had played in it. HTS you disappoint me 
If you feel something I didn't understand can be explained by meta, be my guest and quote stuff from other games. I'm not going to do that for you. Now you should stop martyring and start scumhunting.
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On September 15 2015 22:41 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 22:35 Rels wrote:
would disagree on FF and geript
FF you're the second people saying he's playing his town meta. OK. For me it means nothing.
geript pushed LS' lynch from the very beginning, and I don't think mafia bus this early, especially this game with everyone being a role Geript knows me well but idk how he thought that question wasn't one I would ever ask when I had asked some similar questions in my past games. That post from seems a little forced.
I mean from Geript derped.(Refering to HTS post about Geript's reason for scumreading me)
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On September 15 2015 22:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 22:31 Rels wrote:
I love that I got to see mafia rayn in personality mafia. I think I would have a harder time not thinking of tinfoil mafia rayn in this game if I didn't experience the lackluster experience that is mafia rayn (=
tbh i genuinely could not play there. and the game was shit, roles were shit, i don't even know why i replaced in....
I loved that game! Even though I was mad that we lost like that
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On September 15 2015 22:42 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 22:35 LightningStrike wrote:I here still but I aint claiming unless I have to and will reread the thread later. Rels check all my games out for my meta and you might be able to give a better read on me there the database have all my games I had played in it. HTS you disappoint me If you feel something I didn't understand can be explained by meta, be my guest and quote stuff from other games. I'm not going to do that for you. Now you should stop martyring and start scumhunting.
I will later I seriously got to go in like 3 mins so I can't really scum hunt until after my first class or if I got time before my 1st class to post.
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On September 15 2015 22:43 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 22:42 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 22:35 LightningStrike wrote:I here still but I aint claiming unless I have to and will reread the thread later. Rels check all my games out for my meta and you might be able to give a better read on me there the database have all my games I had played in it. HTS you disappoint me If you feel something I didn't understand can be explained by meta, be my guest and quote stuff from other games. I'm not going to do that for you. Now you should stop martyring and start scumhunting. I will later I seriously got to go in like 3 mins so I can't really scum hunt until after my first class or if I got time before my 1st class to post.
Alright you still have like 50 hours so you have time
I'll remember you said that
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On September 15 2015 22:35 LightningStrike wrote:I here still but I aint claiming unless I have to and will reread the thread later. Rels check all my games out for my meta and you might be able to give a better read on me there the database have all my games I had played in it. HTS you disappoint me
I am taking three things into account.
1 I'm aware you aren't particularly articulate.
2 I'm aware of your mafia meta, I am also aware you've said you don't like playing mafia and have trouble being the bad guy (reference Witchcraft 3).
3 I'm also aware of what you are capable of when you ARE town. This is why I tried to break down Rels' position for you. That he's scumreading you NOT for being AFK, and whether you can realistically break that down to being a mafia motivated post.
I'm purposely ignoring the mechanics based on #1 and focusing more based on #6 in Rels post why you aren't answering the questions.
Also I get the meta references on your end but the LS rule is quite arbitrary regardless of your alignment. The people scumreading you - even if aggressive - ARE breaking down why you are mafia or what about you looks mafia.
So if you ignore Rels and Rayn (hypothetically) for just a second, who is mafia?
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On September 15 2015 22:35 Rels wrote:
would disagree on FF and geript
FF you're the second people saying he's playing his town meta. OK. For me it means nothing.
geript pushed LS' lynch from the very beginning, and I don't think mafia bus this early, especially this game with everyone being a role
Rels - you still here? grabbing the geript quotes I don't get right now...
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On September 15 2015 22:47 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 22:35 Rels wrote:
would disagree on FF and geript
FF you're the second people saying he's playing his town meta. OK. For me it means nothing.
geript pushed LS' lynch from the very beginning, and I don't think mafia bus this early, especially this game with everyone being a role Rels - you still here? grabbing the geript quotes I don't get right now...
sure. Let me reread his filter while you do that
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On September 15 2015 22:47 Half the Sky wrote:
So if you ignore Rels and Rayn (hypothetically) for just a second, who is mafia?
this is the worst pare because me and rels are literally the towniest people in this game if we do not count vivax.
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On September 15 2015 09:29 geript wrote:
##deadline vote Lightning strike
Rayn I can't hold being in character, but do you know why?
On September 15 2015 10:41 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 09:29 geript wrote:
##deadline vote Lightning strike
Rayn I can't hold being in character, but do you know why? So Rayn have you figured out why I'm voting LS yet?
On September 15 2015 22:05 Half the Sky wrote:Read geript's filter a few times. Can't get a good read on him either. He's voted LS for deadline but I don't understand this part. Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 10:46 geript wrote:On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all? When he's town he'll still follow the leader, but he'll generally over talk about a random reason he's thought against it. A less than LS question. He presumably has some scumread based on the vote but I can't tell if this part is a soft push/non-committal read based on the wording. It seems a bit cautious though based on the wording. I'm going to say slight scumread. Everything else I read of his filter I feel could come from either alignment.
Alright, I looked at your points. I don't consider this geript "pushing" LS (in comparison to you and rayn, he's not engaging LS), he is more or less asking rayn why he's voting LS.
But I also know geript is a fantastic mafia player, I feel he is very capable of adapting - I see why you are saying mafia won't bus d1, but geript is someone I can see snowballing early as mafia (reference Jack of all Trades) based on gameplay. I can see him bus a fellow mafia d1 if it greatly benefits him.
I also felt the "less than LS question" was awkwardly worded but I could be misreading that.
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A town geript might be asking rayn that question to get information about rayn but I believe those two have been around each other that geript normally shouldn't have to ask that question.
But let me double check the context.
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On September 15 2015 22:54 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 09:29 geript wrote:
##deadline vote Lightning strike
Rayn I can't hold being in character, but do you know why? Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 10:41 geript wrote:On September 15 2015 09:29 geript wrote:
##deadline vote Lightning strike
Rayn I can't hold being in character, but do you know why? So Rayn have you figured out why I'm voting LS yet? Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 22:05 Half the Sky wrote:Read geript's filter a few times. Can't get a good read on him either. He's voted LS for deadline but I don't understand this part. On September 15 2015 10:46 geript wrote:On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all? When he's town he'll still follow the leader, but he'll generally over talk about a random reason he's thought against it. A less than LS question. He presumably has some scumread based on the vote but I can't tell if this part is a soft push/non-committal read based on the wording. It seems a bit cautious though based on the wording. I'm going to say slight scumread. Everything else I read of his filter I feel could come from either alignment. Alright, I looked at your points. I don't consider this geript "pushing" LS (in comparison to you and rayn, he's not engaging LS), he is more or less asking rayn why he's voting LS.
He was the first to vote LS. Granted he didn't vote in the voting thread, but he pushed rayn to vote LS.
On September 15 2015 22:54 Half the Sky wrote:
But I also know geript is a fantastic mafia player, I feel he is very capable of adapting - I see why you are saying mafia won't bus d1, but geript is someone I can see snowballing early as mafia (reference Jack of all Trades) based on gameplay. I can see him bus a fellow mafia d1 if it greatly benefits him.
OK that kinda break why I think geript is town. My thinking was: the LS push started with geript, and there is no way a scum would risk a scummate lynch this early, especially in a all blue game. But if this is something he has already done, then it is moot.
On September 15 2015 22:54 Half the Sky wrote:
I also felt the "less than LS question" was awkwardly worded but I could be misreading that.
I think it's his way of saying LS wouldn't have asked this question as town.
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Alright, he's not doing that at all. But I am finding this sentence very tenuous after reading it three times.
On September 15 2015 10:46 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all? When he's town he'll still follow the leader, but he'll generally over talk about a random reason he's thought against it. A less than LS question.
So clearly this is a meta read based on then "when he's town" part but the rest makes no sense to me. Particularly going from the second half of that sentence to "a less than LS question" and how he's able to break the meta down this much.
Rayn/Rels pushing him was 100x clearer. Maybe this is just me having major problems with his phrasing but honestly this is how I'm reading it.
To me pushing LS is engaging with LS, not asking someone else about him, but simply my interpretation there.
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Can you link a game of his where he push his scummate from his first batch of posts ?
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40-second ninja. Alright.
I see what you are saying. I feel in any case based on my experience with him, I need to see more from him before I townread him let alone being confident in that townread.
I am also aware he does get mislynched D1 when too many people misunderstand him (this has happened in Carnaval and some newbie game I forget the number) so I certainly will not vote him when I have stronger suspicions on others (Shining/LS).
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On September 15 2015 23:05 Half the Sky wrote:
40-second ninja. Alright.
I see what you are saying. I feel in any case based on my experience with him, I need to see more from him before I townread him let alone being confident in that townread.
I am also aware he does get mislynched D1 when too many people misunderstand him (this has happened in Carnaval and some newbie game I forget the number) so I certainly will not vote him when I have stronger suspicions on others (Shining/LS).
Newbie XI I was part of the town mob (=
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I'm saying he is very capable of adapting/breaking meta even if the strategy might look suboptimal.
Let me check his history.
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On September 15 2015 23:02 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 22:54 Half the Sky wrote:
I also felt the "less than LS question" was awkwardly worded but I could be misreading that. I think it's his way of saying LS wouldn't have asked this question as town.
Fair enough. Then I probably was reading way too much into the question.
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On September 15 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 18:38 Vivax wrote:On September 15 2015 18:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
oh yeah and geript is totally town. Idk his role related shenannies can be faked. He was in SOTW 1 and probably knows what to do better than the rest. I think you're giving him too much credit here. I am reading him town for his read on LS because it's super good.
rayn is also townreading geript solely on geript's push on LS
@rayn do you think geript bussing is a possibility ?
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Sweet! Found the JOAT posts in question. Hold on.
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