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On September 03 2015 03:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +Mafia KP: Mafia have 1 KP each night. Half the remaining mafia rounded up must deliver the KP. So let's say rayn, wave and deconduo are mafia. geript is watcher. we decide to vote to kill marvellosity. me and wave deliver. geript watches marvellosity. did he just catch two mafia? seems pretty op to me....
that's what you get for trying to kill me, bitch
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On September 09 2015 22:33 disformation wrote:
Problem is that most of these things can be used for surveillance although it is not the primary or intended purpose.
how many times have we heard that before
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On September 10 2015 18:49 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2015 23:21 disformation wrote:
Were the elderly ppl okay with the surveillance and does it help them improve their daily life? Yes verily.
Could the same technology be used to monitor people in their homes and administer electronic shocks via the smartwatch if they didn't behave? Yes verily.
That's maybe not the most realistic example but if things like this get implemented I would be worried about insurances giving better conditions to people who let themselves be monitored for example. I guess this isn't a discussion meant for this thread though.
Of course that would happen.
It already happens with driving.
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i'm co-hosting with Plam and my weekends are still absolutely horrendous for being able to play :/
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who caves first? 
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kinda feel like i just got trapped into this...
/in
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On September 10 2015 21:52 Onegu wrote:
You guys just got suckered into a game with onegu...
believe me, that made it harder to sign up
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On September 14 2015 18:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv read me incorrectly once... almost.
almost being the key word
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On September 14 2015 23:38 Damdred wrote:
This might be the game marv reads me correctly instead of just ignores me boys
highly unlikely
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On September 15 2015 08:33 justanothertownie wrote:Yo, people want to lynch you already.
oh lovely, i'll look forward to coming across that
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On September 15 2015 07:13 Koshi wrote:You magnificent bastard. ##unvote
##vote marv
ah, now your posts around this page make sense
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On September 15 2015 07:16 Palmar wrote:I have inside information that marv is probably away tonight.
2 QT. Yes, I've been out.
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On September 15 2015 08:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:
btw, rayn is scummy for assuming things about me. i think lynching him should be a fine start to this game.
from what i've read, no, no he is not
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rayn explain moosy to me please
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On September 15 2015 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 08:57 marvellosity wrote:
rayn explain moosy to me please i am sorry i can't 
is this a can't can't or a don't-want-to-for-my-own-reasons can't
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never mind doesn't matter
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i'm being dragged off, i'll finish catching up tomorrow and have all day at work to play
something's come over me and i may actually have something of a townread on damdred, which i'm not sure i could count given my record
and i can work with rayn for sure.
Palmar doesn't really deserve the number of townreads he has at this point, it's way too early.
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On September 15 2015 09:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv i believe Palmar is town because he is not antagonizing me.
i can understand why you might think that. even so.
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On September 15 2015 09:03 geript wrote:
Hi Marv you sexy beast you. Should I grab my whip?
later cupcake x
really am off.
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On September 15 2015 07:45 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
so no one answered my question. I didnt care that much but it was a free town read and kind of a test
I find this difficult to believe.
and yes i am far behind.
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On September 15 2015 18:48 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 09:02 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar doesn't really deserve the number of townreads he has at this point, it's way too early. Why not? I think I've been for the most part fairly helpful and sensible which should usually make me town.
since when does this make you town?
since when have i ever read you based on you being "helpful and sensible"?
cmon dear.
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you wouldn't like to think that at all, you know how i read you as town, i've done it enough times :>
uh, i've either not read geript's posts yet or i've forgotten them. so no idea.
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On September 15 2015 18:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am gonna run to the grocery store really quick.
marv i hope you're here when i get back.
could you please give your opinion on geript when you have a chance to.
I am here, but i have ~15 pages to read still
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On September 15 2015 18:58 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 18:57 Palmar wrote:
I feel like JAT has basically been a non-entity this game. Maybe I should tunnel him to see what happens. I would ignore you unless I start to think you are mafia. But since you knew how it went last game doing this would already be a point in favor of you being mafia so there is that.
the sad thing is - no it wouldn't
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On September 15 2015 19:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi's town meta is being wrong and bad and being an asshole about it, so he's doing a good job.
LOL
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On September 15 2015 08:23 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 08:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 08:18 justanothertownie wrote:On September 15 2015 08:17 Koshi wrote:On September 15 2015 08:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 08:14 geript wrote:
I don't get why anyone thinks Damdred is town. I think he is town because his reads align with mine. dnu mafia Damdred might call me town without base. Also I am not sure that I was that townie 5 posts into the game rofl. But maybe Damdred became a genius. I was Koshi who trained him in his first game. Not really but I take the credit. That's like the only read I really agree with. Okay so why do you disagree with: ritoky town rayn town palmar town geript mafia ? My point was that I do not see any strong reason to read those people one way or the other while for Koshi I do. I think Palmar, geript and you are all easily capable of doing what they have done so far as either alignment.
yes to first 2, no to #3
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thankfully what you like or don't like about what i do is of supreme indifference to me, plam
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On September 15 2015 19:09 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 19:07 marvellosity wrote:On September 15 2015 08:23 justanothertownie wrote:On September 15 2015 08:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 08:18 justanothertownie wrote:On September 15 2015 08:17 Koshi wrote:On September 15 2015 08:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 08:14 geript wrote:
I don't get why anyone thinks Damdred is town. I think he is town because his reads align with mine. dnu mafia Damdred might call me town without base. Also I am not sure that I was that townie 5 posts into the game rofl. But maybe Damdred became a genius. I was Koshi who trained him in his first game. Not really but I take the credit. That's like the only read I really agree with. Okay so why do you disagree with: ritoky town rayn town palmar town geript mafia ? My point was that I do not see any strong reason to read those people one way or the other while for Koshi I do. I think Palmar, geript and you are all easily capable of doing what they have done so far as either alignment. yes to first 2, no to #3 Fine - I'll take your word. I have no problem with what rayn did so far anyways.
for the briefest of explanations - controlled, consistent aggression with a purpose without attached dickishness
actually he can't really replicate this as mafia.
wish he'd played like that on the VS game we were referencing pre-game :p
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On September 15 2015 08:32 Damdred wrote:
Firstly I can back up most of my reads with some form of reasonable explanation even if people think they are bad to a point in pretty confident in the reads.
The geript scum read is interesting because he's acting oddly at this point. Usually when he's in a game with me he know he can read me rather well and has caught me as scum a couple times and can read me town generally well.
However he's not even waiting or trying to see if I can give some of my damdred town goodness that I am horrendous at faking. Instead he's content on disparaging my reads to a point and being content in saying he wants to lynch me.
He also is missing some of his normal flair which isn't really indicative
do other people agree with the meta part of this?
if they do, it feels like quite a strong point
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On September 15 2015 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 19:14 marvellosity wrote:On September 15 2015 19:09 justanothertownie wrote:On September 15 2015 19:07 marvellosity wrote:On September 15 2015 08:23 justanothertownie wrote:On September 15 2015 08:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 08:18 justanothertownie wrote:On September 15 2015 08:17 Koshi wrote:On September 15 2015 08:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 08:14 geript wrote:
I don't get why anyone thinks Damdred is town. I think he is town because his reads align with mine. dnu mafia Damdred might call me town without base. Also I am not sure that I was that townie 5 posts into the game rofl. But maybe Damdred became a genius. I was Koshi who trained him in his first game. Not really but I take the credit. That's like the only read I really agree with. Okay so why do you disagree with: ritoky town rayn town palmar town geript mafia ? My point was that I do not see any strong reason to read those people one way or the other while for Koshi I do. I think Palmar, geript and you are all easily capable of doing what they have done so far as either alignment. yes to first 2, no to #3 Fine - I'll take your word. I have no problem with what rayn did so far anyways. for the briefest of explanations - controlled, consistent aggression with a purpose without attached dickishness actually he can't really replicate this as mafia. wish he'd played like that on the VS game we were referencing pre-game :p I did exactly that and i was right, with attached drunkness dickishness by the end of D1. 
no, you said "there's something wrong with damdred and xatalos"
"LYNCH DAMDRED OMG JUST LYNCH HIM" over and over.
at least, that is my recollection ^_^
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On September 15 2015 10:23 geript wrote:
I'm pretty sure I want a blow job but not 100%. I might want something else.
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On September 15 2015 14:36 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
If someone says I dont care if your mafia. im going to take notice and bring it up. Thats basically what he did and its unacceptable . I understand it can be rage but in that case we want to get him back to common sense
can you explain why this is unacceptable?
can you explain to me what "unacceptable" means exactly with regards to his alignment?
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On September 15 2015 16:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No fuck actually Onegu is probably town for not having a read on me.
now you remember his 100% read on you out the gate when you were scum together? ^^
not that i think it means anything either way here
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Right this moment:
marv
rayn
Koshi
(Damdred)
Cephiro
ritoky
Palmar
MoosyDoosy
jat
onegu/warwaffle
geript
Wile
Having skimmed over again and read what people wrote about geript's read on Palmar, it's one of those things that feel like he *should* be mafia, but the point about geript's calculatedness as mafia (which i also feel) sticks with me.
Game feels a little more PoE-y than normal, though
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On September 15 2015 20:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Well, too slow marv. I just gave the same scumlist.
hold on let me move some names around
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On September 15 2015 20:02 marvellosity wrote:
marv
geript
rayn
Koshi
(Damdred)
onegu
Cephiro
ritoky
Palmar
MoosyDoosy
warwaffle
Wile
jat
oh dear
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can we get out of this semantics trap?
jat at least did make comment on geript more than once (i checked) although he didn't say much about his alignment
like opinion != alignment read right?
jat isn't going to be mafia or town because of this
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On September 15 2015 20:12 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 20:05 marvellosity wrote:On September 15 2015 20:02 marvellosity wrote:
marv
geript
rayn
Koshi
(Damdred)
onegu
Cephiro
ritoky
Palmar
MoosyDoosy
warwaffle
Wile
jat
oh dear Not bad. If this is serious.
it wasn't, and it's a great relief to me that you approve of my randomly moved-about list. when i start thinking the same as you, then i get worried
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On September 15 2015 20:13 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 20:13 marvellosity wrote:
can we get out of this semantics trap?
jat at least did make comment on geript more than once (i checked) although he didn't say much about his alignment
like opinion != alignment read right?
jat isn't going to be mafia or town because of this Thank you captain obvious.
anytime babe
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On September 15 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not saying he should be a clean townread for you.
I am saying he should not be a scumread for you because he does things you think are more likely to come from town!geript than mafia!geript (unless you ofc prove where i am wrong, which you havent done).
not sure if it helps, but from my perspective:
1) geript is more calculated as mafia
2) geript did something scummy
3) the thing was scummy enough that 2 to an extent trumps 1
or to put it another way maybe, most nonsense/all-over-the-placeness isn't scummy
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On September 15 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote:On September 15 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not saying he should be a clean townread for you.
I am saying he should not be a scumread for you because he does things you think are more likely to come from town!geript than mafia!geript (unless you ofc prove where i am wrong, which you havent done). not sure if it helps, but from my perspective: 1) geript is more calculated as mafia 2) geript did something scummy 3) the thing was scummy enough that 2 to an extent trumps 1 or to put it another way maybe, most nonsense/all-over-the-placeness isn't scummy well for me it isn't, because i can't understand how someone makes the posts geript did. i also have no idea how jat comes to the conclusions he does. i also have no idea why he feels the need to "defend" geript or what the fuck ever he was doing if "it doesn't matter" in the end anyways?!?!?
that's why geript is where he is on my list
i just think the possibility he does those posts as town is somewhat higher than you do. even if you are right and it shouldn't be possible.
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On September 15 2015 20:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv is it normal for Palmar to not townread you here?
historically no, although he has been writing me off as town near the start of games in more recent times.
i'm fairly sure there will be more to come, so i'm not going to make anything of it for now 
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On September 15 2015 21:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
do you think my case on jat makes sense?
it makes sense but i do not think it makes him mafia, i think it makes him jat.
last game made me really itchy about these early jat wagons.
normally (always?) when jat is mafia you can snare him near the end of the day when he's not quite as capable of pushing interesting things strongly. not because he faffed about over geript in some kinda maybe-weird way.
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On September 15 2015 21:11 Wile E. Coyote wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 18:51 marvellosity wrote:On September 15 2015 07:45 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
so no one answered my question. I didnt care that much but it was a free town read and kind of a test I find this difficult to believe. and yes i am far behind. why is this difficult to believe? im not a beginner I do things to get reads and start conversations. Your thing is apparently to ask stupid questions. Its a great way to start off getting reads... Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 19:51 marvellosity wrote:On September 15 2015 14:36 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
If someone says I dont care if your mafia. im going to take notice and bring it up. Thats basically what he did and its unacceptable . I understand it can be rage but in that case we want to get him back to common sense can you explain why this is unacceptable? can you explain to me what "unacceptable" means exactly with regards to his alignment? Wut? If its your first time playing with someone and they go im not playing to win for town why the hell cant I make a comment about it? this one comment is so overblown and I feel like your only mentioning it because others have and you want to fit in
You've not answered my questions, at all
try again.
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by the way, if you are "not a beginner" you should not think asking the thread for meta/comments on other players should qualify as a "test"
those 2 do not go together.
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On September 15 2015 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 21:22 marvellosity wrote:
normally (always?) when jat is mafia you can snare him near the end of the day when he's not quite as capable of pushing interesting things strongly. not because he faffed about over geript in some kinda maybe-weird way. i know this is true. like the gaiden game i went to read your filter (when we were trying to 5min-solve-the-game with Artanis on N1) and saw you had 19 pages, saw you did not lynch neither of palmar and jat and decided you all three have to be town. well my vote is where it is atm because i feel this the strongest.
i think your geript stuff is better. why do you think your jat stuff > geript stuff?
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On September 15 2015 21:29 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
I dont give a shit about your meta. I wanted to see who was cooperative. Anyway I took my medicine back to bed.
can you explain why this is unacceptable? - I did answer this question in detail. Its not right to not care if someones mafia or wrong. Im going to call you out on shit like this thats the kind of person I am its admitting your not playing to win.
can you explain to me what "unacceptable" means exactly with regards to his alignment?
I dont know what this qeustion even means but ill try . I said he could say it as town but it is a scummy trait at level 1 not knowing the guy
Arguing with you isn't going to get me very far.
Could you maybe just tell me whether you got anything out of your "test"?
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On September 15 2015 21:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 21:42 Palmar wrote:On September 15 2015 21:41 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
palmer why do you town read moose? I think i mis quoted that Because he said something that first time (?) mafia players would have a hard time saying. again that is a lie.
how is it a lie?
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On September 15 2015 22:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 21:59 Palmar wrote:
Although, from your perspective, do you not think it's scummy of him to lie about his experience? What is the purpose of that? i don't know yet. i am not entirely sure if it makes him mafia or not. i would rather not discuss this. i just want to point out lies when someone does it.
wtf is going on?
how does a townie ever make that lie?
what am i missing?
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On September 15 2015 22:03 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 22:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 21:59 Palmar wrote:
Although, from your perspective, do you not think it's scummy of him to lie about his experience? What is the purpose of that? i don't know yet. i am not entirely sure if it makes him mafia or not. i would rather not discuss this. i just want to point out lies when someone does it. yeah but you can't just point out lies and then go "but it's all top secret. you need clearance level 6 to access that information". Like you've literally introduced more chaos into the game with this, because I believe you, or rather, I believe you believe what you're saying. And it's extremely frustrating I can't do anything with that information because top secret.
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On September 15 2015 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am sorry i cannot lay out the reasoning and you should probably not think it's alignment indicative because that's Moosy we are talking about.
As i said i think what he does and how he presents his reads and what his reads are are the telling part on his alignment. I will tell you later on what i think of those.
this is very irritating because none of this makes sense to me.
i don't see how or why a townie would EVER lie about playing mafia before
i can easily see why a mafia would lie about not rolling mafia before if he thought he could get away with it.
so what do?!
the only way you can make me happy here is either
1) you explain
2) you tell me there's a good chance Moosy would know that you knew he was lying (which would therefore make his lie dumb and less likely to be a mafia punt)
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On September 16 2015 00:12 geript wrote:
Here's what I know:
1. I'm sheeping Marv today.
2. Rayn is probably town. A few hesitations but eh.
3. I might be wrong on Damdred. After sleeping, I think I might just be really dumb with that read.
4. Moosey is town. What I've seen of his townplay is that Moosy is pretty all over the place in a pretty in effective way while still being rather confident in his reads. The only "questionable" thing so far is his Palmar read.
5. Still don't like Plammar.
Otherwise, fiik
Clear this up for me. How did you write that he was taking things seriously when you admitted that only came after your post?
Like I literally want to know what moved you to write those words at that specific time.
The thing is, I actually do understand what you're saying about Palmar and why you're saying it (although atm i don't find it significant like you), the read itself isn't nonsense, just the timings of how it played out.
what gives?
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Moosy: is rayn lying when he said you've played scum before?
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On September 16 2015 00:30 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 00:29 marvellosity wrote:
Moosy: is rayn lying when he said you've played scum before? Does it matter?
yes. of course it does.
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On September 16 2015 00:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also, back off on this shit between me and rayn and VT/Mafia history. Like it's something that I understand from him and I'm sure he understands me understanding him about our mutual understanding. Either way that stuff is irrelevant.
do you understand why he's saying the things he's saying, then?
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i feel like i'm in the twilight zone
wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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On September 16 2015 01:18 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 01:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 16 2015 01:08 geript wrote:On September 16 2015 01:07 Koshi wrote:
Geript why are you following marv? That doesnt make any sense. I hope it is a ploy. Because he's a sexy, sexy beast. And because he's town. And because I don't have a real strong townread on any good player outside of him. This is a terrible post because if you think marv is surely town you should also think i am surely town. Thinking Marv is town doesn't make you anything... dear. Quite frankly, you haven't done #raynstuffz yet.
it's the other way round.
ok, i think i can let the whole weird timing thing go. Your more longwinded explanation above meshes with what i said in my last post about your read, ergo it's not bullshitty, i can understand why you're thinking what you're thinking.
On September 16 2015 01:18 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 01:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 16 2015 01:08 geript wrote:On September 16 2015 01:07 Koshi wrote:
Geript why are you following marv? That doesnt make any sense. I hope it is a ploy. Because he's a sexy, sexy beast. And because he's town. And because I don't have a real strong townread on any good player outside of him. This is a terrible post because if you think marv is surely town you should also think i am surely town. Thinking Marv is town doesn't make you anything... dear. Quite frankly, you haven't done #raynstuffz yet.
he really has done #raynstuffz though. why don't you think so?
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On September 16 2015 01:35 geript wrote:
Because I read rayn based on a variety of things. It's less than thought process; there's like a bounciness to his reads. And usually, I'm able to read him off the bounce. Like the switch between progressions and thoughts is generally the important thing.
*raises eyebrow*
i like what you wrote about palmar. i like less how you've handled damdred and whatever this read is on rayn.
the damdred thing feels like you made a mistake last night with how you approached him and decided to go for the full backpedal today. but i'm not sure enough that that has to be the narrative.
can you tell me why you were suspicious of him yesterday?
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back later tonight at some stage. got stuffs on.
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hey boys
i'll get started on my long catchup.
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how was that complaining?
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silly boy
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On September 16 2015 02:13 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 01:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 16 2015 01:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
- Claiming a trap is an easy way to open up and pretend you're doing work. He also seems eager to point out it was a test almost as if people should know that he was trying to do work. I also don't know what he was expecting because he could clearly see we were going to just answer sarcastically because we were all just bantering.
- huE thinks I'm scum because of A. VT claim B. filler
- Sheeps your post immediately on geript when it was already brought up earlier.
- Doesn't answer marv's questioning and instead claims he knows what he's doing and says marv is being overblown
- His 3rd page of filter has almost no relevance when you look at thread context. He was just talking about things that no one else was talking about.
- Biggest part is tone. Damdred will probably read this as well, but if you look at context he seems opportunistic and willing to jump at things as well as a bit desperate in trying to appear townie. This is a list on Coyote Bolded is the only thing that might make him mafia. And I should have to believe you because I don't see it myself. all the other things are simply not making him mafia. They are just random events that town or mafia could do. Seriously, traps are townie, rarely a mafia does it. And most "traps" are shit, and almost always the trapmaker feels like he needs to point out what a genius he was and that others "ruined" it. I can find examples. Like the one game rayn brought up, with Eden and geript and cephiro. It was dumb. cephiro claimed it was genius. geript wanted to lynch him for it. Dumb shit. I don't even know why sheeping a post on geript is something mafia would do. I also don't understand why a new player wouldn't or shouldn't antagonize this marv at the moment he did. Or a cocky town player couldn't do it. No seriously. I don't get any point in this list.
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On September 16 2015 04:12 Palmar wrote:
Mental note that it's slightly concerning marv thinks geript's arguments are valid.
no, it isn't
explain yourself.
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On September 16 2015 18:37 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 18:35 marvellosity wrote:On September 16 2015 04:12 Palmar wrote:
Mental note that it's slightly concerning marv thinks geript's arguments are valid. no, it isn't explain yourself. Geript is arguing that I am mafia. I am not mafia. You seem to think it's a possibility I am mafia, which is very uncharacteristic for you.
no, it isn't? I've had my vote on you many times in the past when you were town, it just never sticks
further, i very clearly stated i could understand why he was writing what he was writing, although i didn't agree with the conclusion (i said this more than once)
why no ready?
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ready was supposed to be like, read-y
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On September 16 2015 18:51 Palmar wrote:wait what marv? Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 18:40 marvellosity wrote:On September 16 2015 18:37 Palmar wrote:On September 16 2015 18:35 marvellosity wrote:On September 16 2015 04:12 Palmar wrote:
Mental note that it's slightly concerning marv thinks geript's arguments are valid. no, it isn't explain yourself. Geript is arguing that I am mafia. I am not mafia. You seem to think it's a possibility I am mafia, which is very uncharacteristic for you. no, it isn't? I've had my vote on you many times in the past when you were town, it just never sticks further, i very clearly stated i could understand why he was writing what he was writing, although i didn't agree with the conclusion (i said this more than once) why no ready? This is just blatantly false. Your statement about what you said is not true. Here's the post where you "agree" with geript: Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 01:39 marvellosity wrote:On September 16 2015 01:35 geript wrote:
Because I read rayn based on a variety of things. It's less than thought process; there's like a bounciness to his reads. And usually, I'm able to read him off the bounce. Like the switch between progressions and thoughts is generally the important thing. *raises eyebrow* i like what you wrote about palmar. i like less how you've handled damdred and whatever this read is on rayn. the damdred thing feels like you made a mistake last night with how you approached him and decided to go for the full backpedal today. but i'm not sure enough that that has to be the narrative. can you tell me why you were suspicious of him yesterday? I bolded the part that came just a few posts after geript posted something about me. SINCE you wrote that post you have written exactly 8 posts, none of which elaborate or talk more about how or what you liked about geript's post on me. So no, you did not very clearly state that you understood but disagreed, and you did not say it multiple times.
On September 16 2015 01:31 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 01:18 geript wrote:On September 16 2015 01:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 16 2015 01:08 geript wrote:On September 16 2015 01:07 Koshi wrote:
Geript why are you following marv? That doesnt make any sense. I hope it is a ploy. Because he's a sexy, sexy beast. And because he's town. And because I don't have a real strong townread on any good player outside of him. This is a terrible post because if you think marv is surely town you should also think i am surely town. Thinking Marv is town doesn't make you anything... dear. Quite frankly, you haven't done #raynstuffz yet. it's the other way round. ok, i think i can let the whole weird timing thing go. Your more longwinded explanation above meshes with what i said in my last post about your read, ergo it's not bullshitty, i can understand why you're thinking what you're thinking.Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 01:18 geript wrote:On September 16 2015 01:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 16 2015 01:08 geript wrote:On September 16 2015 01:07 Koshi wrote:
Geript why are you following marv? That doesnt make any sense. I hope it is a ploy. Because he's a sexy, sexy beast. And because he's town. And because I don't have a real strong townread on any good player outside of him. This is a terrible post because if you think marv is surely town you should also think i am surely town. Thinking Marv is town doesn't make you anything... dear. Quite frankly, you haven't done #raynstuffz yet. he really has done #raynstuffz though. why don't you think so?
On September 16 2015 00:28 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 00:12 geript wrote:
Here's what I know:
1. I'm sheeping Marv today.
2. Rayn is probably town. A few hesitations but eh.
3. I might be wrong on Damdred. After sleeping, I think I might just be really dumb with that read.
4. Moosey is town. What I've seen of his townplay is that Moosy is pretty all over the place in a pretty in effective way while still being rather confident in his reads. The only "questionable" thing so far is his Palmar read.
5. Still don't like Plammar.
Otherwise, fiik Clear this up for me. How did you write that he was taking things seriously when you admitted that only came after your post? Like I literally want to know what moved you to write those words at that specific time. The thing is, I actually do understand what you're saying about Palmar and why you're saying it (although atm i don't find it significant like you), the read itself isn't nonsense, just the timings of how it played out. what gives?
errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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my PC won't even open notepad. think i need a reboot.
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On September 16 2015 19:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv, Palmar actually has a point here.
how does he in any way?
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On September 16 2015 19:03 Palmar wrote:
yeah but all that was written before geript wrote the point that prompted you to say you liked it.
read through timings again
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On September 16 2015 19:03 Palmar wrote:
yeah but all that was written before geript wrote the point that prompted you to say you liked it.
geript was only further elaborating on points he'd already made.
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On September 16 2015 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I really really like ritoky in this game.
so do i, it's kinda irritating
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On September 16 2015 19:13 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 19:09 marvellosity wrote:On September 16 2015 19:03 Palmar wrote:
yeah but all that was written before geript wrote the point that prompted you to say you liked it. geript was only further elaborating on points he'd already made. ok I went back and checked, yes he did lay out his points earlier.
right.
so are you now then, to go back to your post last page, able to draw the distinction between "i agree with geript" and "i think geript's points are honest/i can see where they come from" ?
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On September 16 2015 19:14 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 19:12 marvellosity wrote:On September 16 2015 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I really really like ritoky in this game. so do i, it's kinda irritating I don't, he counted "calling Koshi dumb" as a point against someone, whereas I think calling koshi dumb is a fantastic use of your time.
LOL
can't disagree there tbh. although i try to be a good boy and avoid it as much as i can
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i'm kinda itching to get to where rayn pushes moosy, it's very distracting knowing it's coming up
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On September 16 2015 08:06 Onegu wrote:
Still think Koshi is town, but find it really weird that he dropped his scum reads on me and ceph for like no reason.
Also I couldn't care less, Sounds much better than I could care less.
#FuckGrammer.
probably because I couldn't care less is the correct usage, dopeydrawers
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On September 16 2015 19:18 Palmar wrote:
I haven't even read rayn's case on moosy.
Also I can't even remember cephiro posting after a strong start so he is getting a downgrade.
This is correct.
So there was some normal game ages ago now where I superhardpushed (remember those days?) Cephiro on d2 because i was convinced he was mafia (he was)
then i thought he was mafia in a game soon after and pushed him again, except this time he wasn't. In that game he posted more kinda self-centred wall of texts like he has here, which led me to my early townread on him in this case
but if he's not playing, maybe he just decided that was his effort for the day.
dno though, will think about it a bit later
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On September 16 2015 08:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 06:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
The last time I saw JAT act like this was in a game where he was townie. rayn, marv, and Palmar were in it as well. I'd like to know exactly what they think of JAT currently. :/ You never ever ever ever ever make this post as town. You just do not do it. No. no. no. NO!
people make this sort of misremembering mistake ALL THE TIME, and moreover, more as town.
i hope there's more?
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like i literally remember Palmar making a really clever point DEFENDING moosy last game we played together because moosy kept misremembering names...
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On August 27 2015 07:22 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 02:14 Palmar wrote:
moosy seems to get people mixed up easily.
I think that is irrelevant and at best slightly townie (doesn't worry too much about mistakes). oh i like this thought
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it was clever enough that i
a) commented that it was
b) used it as a later rationale to defend you
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On September 16 2015 19:29 Palmar wrote:
I kinda wanna lynch Onegu.
i want to lynch onegu a lot less than i want to lynch waffle (just reading his list post right now)
splain?
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On September 16 2015 10:29 TheWarWaffle wrote:Sorry about the lack of posts but your massive circle jerk (that I wasn't invited to btw) made me want to sit back and wait for some substance before making any reads. The fact that I've only played with geript and Damdred before have also contributed to this. I looked at all the filters individually since I don't know the meta of any players here (besides a vague outline I've drawn through observation of this game). This is my current standing on each of you: MoosyDoosy: Very poor posting quality. Many one liners that distract or lead into other topics. Nothing of substance or insight to be gleaned from his whole filter. Probable mafia. Damdred: Damdred is Damdred. Pretty sure he's town, filter doesn't have anything against him. A couple of people have targeted him based off meta reads, though. geript: In Student Mafia V he singlehandedly got me lynched. No hard feelings. He was town in that game (and he even had an excuse to post infrequently too); his actions in this game have in no way, shape, or form followed this supposed typical gerpit behaviour. Highly suspicious. justanothertownie: Has a bunch of posts but most of it is filler. Dragged the "did I/did I not townread geript" conversation string on for longer than it should have. This post Show nested quote +I have done stuff. Not much but I have. And I am not saying you should absolutely townread me. I am saying there is 0 reason to mafia read me. feels like he's saying "I may not be town, but I'm definitely not mafia." Koshi: Spams a lot but apparently it is always this way with him. Is aggressively (and confidently) pushing justanothertownie for mafia. Pretty sure he's town. raynpelikoneet: Pretty up front with his willingness to vote for pressure. Is heavily leaning towards MoosyDoosy and justanothertownie. Strangely hard townread MoosyDoosy up until the point where he was afk for a while then switched his vote to Moosy, promised to not move it, and was so sure of it that he said "If MoosyDoosy flips town in this game i am mafia and you should lynch me, that's how sure i am." This feels like a bus to me. If all other suspicious leads go awry, rayn should be looked at. Currently reading town, however. Wile E. Coyote: Weak posts. Nothing seems to jump out whatsoever. Feels like somebody trying to slide by under the radar. Null/suspicious. Cephiro: Well constructed posts... if he's ever around. Raised suspicion on Damdred, told Moosy to stop talking about Crime and Punishment, and then disappeared. Odd. He mentioned returning midway through the cycle but has yet to make a reappearance. Null. Onegu: Possesses a strange knack for seeming like he's around when he's not. Really nothing to go by in his filter. Null/suspicious. ritoky: Calls out the suspicious people for acting suspicious. Appears to have reasonable reads. Town most likely.
Palmar: Appears to be town. Sheeps raynpelikoneet and assures us that he is for sure town based on the way he is playing. Is suspicious of MoosyDoosy but doesn't want to lynch him for reasons unknown. Wants to lynch marvellosity instead. marvellosity: idk. Could be either alignment. He is a good player; that puts a target on his head regardless.
hey waffle, you gonna come play with us?
There's some weird things in this post.
Can you explain a bit more your geript kinda meta-read? (this bit not weird, just want some elaboration)
the jat part literally has zero conclusion whatsoever. not sure if this has significance, but it's there.
Very odd bit in the rayn read where he says "this feels like a bus" -> "i'm reading rayn town". This doesn't make sense. It's semantics, but there's a kinda disconnect there
Palmar townread based on Palmar saying he is town?
for me the Cephiro alignment conclusion didn't quite seem to match the previous words on him.
dunno, lots of lil things.
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i'm not sure you can equivocate the 2, tbh.
one he was hard-defending a scumbuddy based on previous soul reads
here he's just giving out townreads. even if he's mafia it's hard to pick out an agenda there, unlike in XXX
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the towniest thing about waffle is his first post where he interjects a random comment and is happy just to sit and leave it there and not post again for ages.
which does create some waffle.
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On September 16 2015 18:12 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Me thinking moosy is scummy is nothing new its in the thread. My top town also agreed at about the same time as me.
And yes math is very important on day 1 lynches. You hit mafia way less on day 1. So voting someone whos probably not a power role and the most likely to me to flip mafia is the easiest vote of my life
lol
can't tell if townie or scummy
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On September 16 2015 18:31 ritoky wrote:
i think what rayn is trying to say is that moosy was trying to use specific plays and characteristics of JAT in a specific game to give him a town read when he couldn't even remember the general information of the game (who was playing) especially considering it was recent. It makes the read feel like bullshit cuz he is trying to make a meta argument when it is kinda clear he didn't do basic research on it or remember it fully accurately. makes the read in the very least hard to trust.
i kinda understand the thought behind moosy's read but not necessarily his justification or source. cuz there is a point for most players if you're mafia day 1 about to get lynched where you have to switch to pandering/defense/buying votes mode and out of obstinate antagonistic dick mode. jat didn't switch out of being obstinate when under legitimate lynch pressure which trends slightly toward town, but i doubt it is outside of his capabilities as mafia so it really isn't an indicator in the slightest.
the thing is, see the post that me/palmar quoted from last game.
moosy was very inaccurate with details there.
i just don't even BEGIN to grasp what rayn is pushing here :/
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yeah it was Noir. Not 100% sure if hogwarts was the game i was thinking about after (although i know we were both in it and i may have called him mafia, feels like there may have been another, maybe not though)
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i just don't think i'm going to lynch moosy here.
the really weird "not rolled mafia before" thing seems NAI judging by both Moosy/rayn's reactions to it. he's super all over the place. maybe he can play like this as mafia, but do i have any reason to think so right now? 100% do not get this misremembering rayn in another game thing.
In reality mafia do not make these errors more than town, in fact probably less.
Cephiro has no new content. It's easy to talk in general terms at the start of the game, less so when real shit actually starts happening.
Waffle just isn't here, weird things in his list post, stood up really bad to ritoky's questioning i thought.
some more active/well-known-ish mafia that i don't really know if i want to try to pursue today. jat can be mafia but he kinda seems a little less pissy than i imagine him to be as mafia (and yes you're probs all reading this going "well he IS being pissy" - nonetheless, i think that )
maybe geript, his non-townread on rayn is wonky, his Damdred stuff was wonky, i know he's busy but i guess i'd expect a little more urgency? and when he actually answered me he sounded fine.
##Vote: Cephiro
kinda giving warwaffle tiny benefit of the doubt for his very first post + the fact he just gets mislynched d1 all the time. good reasons.
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totally forgot Wile. Would probably also lynch because i think most others look townier.
i think rayn's defence of him is based on associations that he shouldn't be making (esp moosy).
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he has a lot of tonal posts that point towards town. but i'm missing some of the clever stuff (well, the stuff that you didn't think made him town last game but i did). but he feels very unforced which is good.
i'd say i'd be fairly surprised if he was scum in this situation, but it's not out of the question.
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On September 16 2015 20:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Or the ritoky vs damdred thing. Considering their claimed accuracy of reading each other that should be interesting too.
yes i saw that, but decided to leave them to have it out at some stage
i don't really want to touch damdred with a bargepole
if you do, please go ahead :>
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On September 16 2015 20:11 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 20:05 marvellosity wrote:On September 16 2015 20:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Or the ritoky vs damdred thing. Considering their claimed accuracy of reading each other that should be interesting too. yes i saw that, but decided to leave them to have it out at some stage i don't really want to touch damdred with a bargepole if you do, please go ahead :> The question is WHY do you not want to touch damdred? Because you have been wrong on him before? Doesn't make any sense. You even said I could be mafia and if there is any player in the game you wouldn't talk about it is me.
this has been my damdred strat for some games now. you approving or not doesn't matter very much to me bbz.
see his pre-game comment even
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On September 16 2015 20:16 justanothertownie wrote:
If you really like ritoky this game damdred should be in your lynchpool.
then maybe you can imply something about my read on him that i'm not talking about from the fact he isn't
or maybe you can't
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we don't suck at the technical stuff, we just use it when it's appropriate.
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On September 16 2015 20:19 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 20:17 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Well thats not really true at all. I think you guys just suck at the technical stuff altho you are very good at other things. In werewolf there is always a full seer (cop) with a n0 check so its definitely more important but it should still have some weight here. Sure, but this isn't werewolf. There is no townie with extra information on day1 and cop checks aren't 100 % trustworthy.
especially these days they're not :/
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On September 16 2015 20:21 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 20:16 marvellosity wrote:On September 16 2015 20:16 justanothertownie wrote:
If you really like ritoky this game damdred should be in your lynchpool. then maybe you can imply something about my read on him that i'm not talking about from the fact he isn't or maybe you can't No, I can't since I am not reading you town so far.
*shrug*
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On September 16 2015 20:22 Koshi wrote:
wow. JAT, if you want an ally annoying marv I am here for you.
meh, I'd just go do the work I've put off all morning ^^
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On September 16 2015 20:31 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 20:21 marvellosity wrote:On September 16 2015 20:21 justanothertownie wrote:On September 16 2015 20:16 marvellosity wrote:On September 16 2015 20:16 justanothertownie wrote:
If you really like ritoky this game damdred should be in your lynchpool. then maybe you can imply something about my read on him that i'm not talking about from the fact he isn't or maybe you can't No, I can't since I am not reading you town so far. *shrug* To explain: If marv was town here I would expect him to tell me I am being weird for scumreading him or something like that. Or telling me I know he is town. I would definitely not expect him to make this post and subsequently flee the thread.
I've not fled anywhere, dearest.
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On September 16 2015 20:38 justanothertownie wrote:I just saw Onegu has his vote already on marv. I guess I'll never be cool ##Vote: Marvellosity
no he doesn't
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On September 16 2015 20:42 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 20:40 Palmar wrote:On September 16 2015 20:35 Koshi wrote:
Palmar, want to lynch marv? He just defended me, which I liked. This could be your chance to lynch imperial marv day1 though.
that would make a lot of sense if this were imperial marv
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On September 16 2015 20:45 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 20:44 marvellosity wrote:On September 16 2015 20:42 justanothertownie wrote:On September 16 2015 20:40 Palmar wrote:On September 16 2015 20:35 Koshi wrote:
Palmar, want to lynch marv? He just defended me, which I liked. This could be your chance to lynch imperial marv day1 though. that would make a lot of sense if this were imperial marv Is it not? You are just saying this because agreeing would be playing against your wincon so you have to hide your approval in an "if" sentence.
you what? O.o
if your vote is on me at the end of the day i will be amazed.
koshi's - less amazed
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actually, this is ridiculous. you don't even have reasons to vote me.
people are on your case all day for not providing opinions and now you're jumping all over me for essentially nothing.
Almost certainly because you think it will make you look townie which is what i just initially thought. but it isn't, it's actually just convenient
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like i can forgive koshi because he loves ploughing me from behind. it's his secret fetish.
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On September 16 2015 20:51 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 20:50 marvellosity wrote:
actually, this is ridiculous. you don't even have reasons to vote me.
people are on your case all day for not providing opinions and now you're jumping all over me for essentially nothing.
Almost certainly because you think it will make you look townie which is what i just initially thought. but it isn't, it's actually just convenient How is it convenient for me to attack the only "townleader" who is not calling me mafia? How is it convenient to attack someone who is never going to be mislynched? It isn't. And while for me "not being towny" is no scumtell for you it certainly is.
it is absolutely a scumtell for you, and you know that's precisely how i've tended to read you
i voted you last game for not being towny, and i unvoted you when you started being towny
bsbsbs
it's convenient because it makes you look like you're doing something scum shouldn't do (which is well within your range) without actually having to do anything with it, other than make out with the koshibear
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On September 16 2015 20:54 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 20:53 marvellosity wrote:On September 16 2015 20:51 justanothertownie wrote:On September 16 2015 20:50 marvellosity wrote:
actually, this is ridiculous. you don't even have reasons to vote me.
people are on your case all day for not providing opinions and now you're jumping all over me for essentially nothing.
Almost certainly because you think it will make you look townie which is what i just initially thought. but it isn't, it's actually just convenient How is it convenient for me to attack the only "townleader" who is not calling me mafia? How is it convenient to attack someone who is never going to be mislynched? It isn't. And while for me "not being towny" is no scumtell for you it certainly is. it is absolutely a scumtell for you, and you know that's precisely how i've tended to read you i voted you last game for not being towny, and i unvoted you when you started being towny bsbsbs it's convenient because it makes you look like you're doing something scum shouldn't do (which is well within your range) without actually having to do anything with it, other than make out with the koshibear You unvoted me because I busted my ass off for hours and hours which I could have done as either alignment. Had I not done that like I originally said you wouldn't have unvoted and I would have still been town.
and the many times i read you as town easily?
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On September 16 2015 20:51 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 20:50 marvellosity wrote:
actually, this is ridiculous. you don't even have reasons to vote me.
people are on your case all day for not providing opinions and now you're jumping all over me for essentially nothing.
Almost certainly because you think it will make you look townie which is what i just initially thought. but it isn't, it's actually just convenient How is it convenient for me to attack the only "townleader" who is not calling me mafia? How is it convenient to attack someone who is never going to be mislynched? It isn't.And while for me "not being towny" is no scumtell for you it certainly is.
how the fuck can you even say this with a straight face?!?
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it's almost the definition of convenience, because it's doing something knowing nothing will ever come of it
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On September 16 2015 20:53 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
That post is soooooooooooooooo scummmmmmyyy
explain yourself.
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the damdred thing is not an example.
damdred will explain it's not an example
my previous games will explain it's not an example.
stop using bad reasoning.
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On September 16 2015 21:04 Wile E. Coyote wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 20:59 marvellosity wrote:On September 16 2015 20:53 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
That post is soooooooooooooooo scummmmmmyyy explain yourself. lol he yelled at me explaining my reads and basically said im a tryhard. This acualy happened
oh. uh
whose post were you referring to?
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On September 16 2015 21:04 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 20:59 marvellosity wrote:
it's almost the definition of convenience, because it's doing something knowing nothing will ever come of it Except for townmarv burying the shit out of me.
if you can't come up with something else than a Damdred attitude i'm consistent on and me shrugging, this may well happen.
let me help you, babycakes
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On September 16 2015 21:12 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 20:51 marvellosity wrote:
like i can forgive koshi because he loves ploughing me from behind. it's his secret fetish. Trying to make me jelly?
best slut-tactic EU
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yay, more stories
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On September 16 2015 21:41 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 21:07 marvellosity wrote:On September 16 2015 21:04 justanothertownie wrote:On September 16 2015 20:59 marvellosity wrote:
it's almost the definition of convenience, because it's doing something knowing nothing will ever come of it Except for townmarv burying the shit out of me. if you can't come up with something else than a Damdred attitude i'm consistent on and me shrugging, this may well happen. let me help you, babycakes If you want to help me you could just start being your usual towny self and find some mafia so I can sheep you. Or you can keep calling me mafia for scumreading me but that probably won't change my vote since it is too late now. You already reacted poorly and you can't clear it up by OMGUSing me now that I called you mafia for that.
My usual towny self is not to find a target for you to sheep, and you well know that.
so why are you saying it?
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like you keep saying things that you know are not applicable
why?
first the damdred thing, and now this sheep thing.
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i was actually due to be away for the whole weekend, but my plans just got cancelled.
booya
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I think I did, yes.
however i am in this limbo of not being able to confirm what i think ^^
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On September 16 2015 22:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Certain things Moosy has said in this game doesn't make any sense fro mtown perspective. He is acting overly cocky when he knows some people will figure out what he says is dumb and he believes he gets townread for it.
It's like what GlowingBear does.
certain things like what? because his remembering of that game thing is definitely not one of them.
how is this different from what you expect from him as town?
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i understand the theory, it's the practical application i'm missing here
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i don't even know what levels are
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like rayn, i can sense you getting frustrated because people (e.g. me) aren't "getting" what you're trying to say, but you kinda need to break it down better and explain to me like i am a small child (which is often true anyways)
like you're saying there are things that townies shouldn't be saying/thinking, but I'm more seeing someone who likes to fuck about a bit and is all over the place. where does one become the other? how?
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On September 16 2015 22:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 22:11 Palmar wrote:
@rayn
In order to scumread moosy I have to assume way more of his scumgame than I'd normally apply to a guy playing his second game. There is a reason I'm generally good at reading new players, it's because they are usually fairly transparent. It's only when people have played a bunch of games that they start to have a layered approach to mafia. To borrow terminology from another mafia community:
Level 1 mafia is very unlikely to:
1) admit he's been scummy by calling people townreading him suspicious
2) intentionally misremember things or do bad things and expect townreads in return
You're basically asking us to assume moosy is at least level 2 scum. (I still haven't figured out what guys mean when they say levels beyond 1 and 2...) Actually, when I am Mafia, I do try and replicate my town game as much as possible. Also, this is not my second game. It's my ...6th game? 5th game? Not too sure. Like just lynch me lol. I'd love to see rayn face palm and shit all over the thread and blame it all on me saying it's my fault I made no sense.
you said you never rolled mafia before?!?!
omg don't make me go on to this agian
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ok. that's probably what bugs meant when i first came on to the scene. he described that i had a natural flair for doing what mafia "shouldn't" do right from the get go.
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On September 16 2015 22:16 Damdred wrote:
Yeah I'm just not going to play until deadline was told to shut up by the great rayn.
Marvs right about waffle though
which bit?
the stuff in his list post, or the bit where i waffle about him ^^
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On September 16 2015 22:16 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 22:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 16 2015 22:11 Palmar wrote:
@rayn
In order to scumread moosy I have to assume way more of his scumgame than I'd normally apply to a guy playing his second game. There is a reason I'm generally good at reading new players, it's because they are usually fairly transparent. It's only when people have played a bunch of games that they start to have a layered approach to mafia. To borrow terminology from another mafia community:
Level 1 mafia is very unlikely to:
1) admit he's been scummy by calling people townreading him suspicious
2) intentionally misremember things or do bad things and expect townreads in return
You're basically asking us to assume moosy is at least level 2 scum. (I still haven't figured out what guys mean when they say levels beyond 1 and 2...) Actually, when I am Mafia, I do try and replicate my town game as much as possible. Also, this is not my second game. It's my ...6th game? 5th game? Not too sure. Like just lynch me lol. I'd love to see rayn face palm and shit all over the thread and blame it all on me saying it's my fault I made no sense. you said you never rolled mafia before?!?! omg don't make me go on to this agian
like i really need an answer to this, because i managed to let it go but now you're saying something different than you did before in the game.
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On September 16 2015 22:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 22:16 marvellosity wrote:On September 16 2015 22:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 16 2015 22:11 Palmar wrote:
@rayn
In order to scumread moosy I have to assume way more of his scumgame than I'd normally apply to a guy playing his second game. There is a reason I'm generally good at reading new players, it's because they are usually fairly transparent. It's only when people have played a bunch of games that they start to have a layered approach to mafia. To borrow terminology from another mafia community:
Level 1 mafia is very unlikely to:
1) admit he's been scummy by calling people townreading him suspicious
2) intentionally misremember things or do bad things and expect townreads in return
You're basically asking us to assume moosy is at least level 2 scum. (I still haven't figured out what guys mean when they say levels beyond 1 and 2...) Actually, when I am Mafia, I do try and replicate my town game as much as possible. Also, this is not my second game. It's my ...6th game? 5th game? Not too sure. Like just lynch me lol. I'd love to see rayn face palm and shit all over the thread and blame it all on me saying it's my fault I made no sense. you said you never rolled mafia before?!?! omg don't make me go on to this agian :D That's an understanding between me and rayn. I think it's quite touching because I think he's perceiving me as a threat based on our understanding and is scared of me. ho hum.
what?
can you just answer me why you said
1) you didn't roll mafia before
2) you did roll mafia before
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"never rolled mafia" is not talking about the game of mafia
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##unvote
##vote: moosydoosy
i'm waiting
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On September 16 2015 23:22 Koshi wrote:
rayn already told us he 100% certain played as mafia before..........................................................................
you have a remarkable knack of always missing the point.
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On September 16 2015 23:28 geript wrote:
@Marv. I'll explain as basically as possible. Rayn was in the newbie game (died n2) with moosy. I am a coach in that game. Rayn thought moosy was mafia when RAYN died. Moosy is still alive in that game and game is still going on. Hence the no talky thing about it. I'm pretty sure Rayn is wrong here on moosy. But in my passing reading am continuing to waffle on Rayn and Damdred.
then why is Moosy saying two contradictory things and saying he'll explain without explaining -.-
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like that's nothing to do with that ongoing game.
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On September 16 2015 23:34 geript wrote:
I can take a few guesses but it involves revealing into one way or another regarding the other game. Plus I think fido is in that game too.
I'm busy but I have a tin foil reason to think Rayn mightbbe mafia in coordination w/ how he's pushing stuff. Can you take a second look at Rayn plz.
no, i don't take a "2nd look" at rayn, that's not how i read rayn
it feels wrong or it feels right and i'm always right (except once... almost)
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On September 16 2015 23:34 geript wrote:
I can take a few guesses but it involves revealing into one way or another regarding the other game. Plus I think fido is in that game too.
it shouldn't though
moosy knows his alignment in whatever ongoing games he's playing
so he shouldn't be saying both that he has never rolled mafia and he has. it's just... fdskjfggkjdgkdslfngkdjfgnkdfjng
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On September 16 2015 23:46 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 23:40 marvellosity wrote:On September 16 2015 23:34 geript wrote:
I can take a few guesses but it involves revealing into one way or another regarding the other game. Plus I think fido is in that game too.
I'm busy but I have a tin foil reason to think Rayn mightbbe mafia in coordination w/ how he's pushing stuff. Can you take a second look at Rayn plz. no, i don't take a "2nd look" at rayn, that's not how i read rayn it feels wrong or it feels right and i'm always right (except once... almost) You were wrong in russia today. You constantly called him town there when I brought him up.
well, i talked myself out of my early suspicions there.
which i didn't have here.
my point being, going back and re-reading rayn won't get me anywhere.
i never read people like HF/jat/rayn filters very much at all
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On September 16 2015 23:51 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 23:48 marvellosity wrote:On September 16 2015 23:46 justanothertownie wrote:On September 16 2015 23:40 marvellosity wrote:On September 16 2015 23:34 geript wrote:
I can take a few guesses but it involves revealing into one way or another regarding the other game. Plus I think fido is in that game too.
I'm busy but I have a tin foil reason to think Rayn mightbbe mafia in coordination w/ how he's pushing stuff. Can you take a second look at Rayn plz. no, i don't take a "2nd look" at rayn, that's not how i read rayn it feels wrong or it feels right and i'm always right (except once... almost) You were wrong in russia today. You constantly called him town there when I brought him up. well, i talked myself out of my early suspicions there. which i didn't have here. my point being, going back and re-reading rayn won't get me anywhere. i never read people like HF/jat/rayn filters very much at all In my case you should maybe start doing it if you keep being wrong about me.
maybe you should stop being boring and wrong in general.
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On September 17 2015 00:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 00:04 justanothertownie wrote:On September 17 2015 00:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wait does jat think i am mafia? I have no idea where you got that from again. You asked marv to reread me. Why would you ask that if you think i am town (as he does)?
that was geript
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On September 17 2015 00:11 Palmar wrote:
I know it's terrible but somehow geript offering a hint of an explanation of the moosy/rayn thing (I had thought about it being from another game, but I also forgot there were any other games going than this one and season of the witch) makes me kinda think he's less likely mafia.
It's not really that he said it, but rather the genuine "I'm going to try to help" tone he did it with.
i like this post
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On September 17 2015 00:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 23:29 marvellosity wrote:On September 16 2015 23:28 geript wrote:
@Marv. I'll explain as basically as possible. Rayn was in the newbie game (died n2) with moosy. I am a coach in that game. Rayn thought moosy was mafia when RAYN died. Moosy is still alive in that game and game is still going on. Hence the no talky thing about it. I'm pretty sure Rayn is wrong here on moosy. But in my passing reading am continuing to waffle on Rayn and Damdred. then why is Moosy saying two contradictory things and saying he'll explain without explaining -.- I don't want to get banned lol.
not good enough.
if you're aware you're in another game, you still wouldn't provide two contradictory statements. would you?
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On September 17 2015 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:
And marv should definitely be a townread by now :/
shouldn't he just.
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On September 17 2015 00:17 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 00:16 marvellosity wrote:On September 17 2015 00:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 16 2015 23:29 marvellosity wrote:On September 16 2015 23:28 geript wrote:
@Marv. I'll explain as basically as possible. Rayn was in the newbie game (died n2) with moosy. I am a coach in that game. Rayn thought moosy was mafia when RAYN died. Moosy is still alive in that game and game is still going on. Hence the no talky thing about it. I'm pretty sure Rayn is wrong here on moosy. But in my passing reading am continuing to waffle on Rayn and Damdred. then why is Moosy saying two contradictory things and saying he'll explain without explaining -.- I don't want to get banned lol. not good enough. if you're aware you're in another game, you still wouldn't provide two contradictory statements. would you? I actually did so that my alignment wouldn't be known.
ffs. this is mindbogglingly stupid.
but it kinda seems it's alignment-neutral mindbogglingly stupid.
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On September 17 2015 00:25 justanothertownie wrote:What happened to me being mafia? Oo
if i'd wanted to vote you, i'd have done it quite a bit before now.
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i.e. there is an ok chance you are being terrible and wrong.
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On September 17 2015 00:42 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 00:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 17 2015 00:29 justanothertownie wrote:On September 17 2015 00:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:
JAT I don't understand your vote on marv. Is it out of spite or because you really think he's Mafia? I am majorly irritated by his reaction towards me and usually I have a townread on him at this point. So there is a decent chance he is mafia. He clearly isn't being lynched though which means discussing it is kinda pointless. Okay yeah, so your vote is useless. Who else are you looking into today then? sass I don't think I want to lynch Moosy, I kinda think I actually stand by my earlier do not lynch list aside from maybe Cephiro. marv, why are we killing cephiro?
can you tell me why not?
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On September 17 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 00:46 marvellosity wrote:On September 17 2015 00:42 Palmar wrote:On September 17 2015 00:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 17 2015 00:29 justanothertownie wrote:On September 17 2015 00:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:
JAT I don't understand your vote on marv. Is it out of spite or because you really think he's Mafia? I am majorly irritated by his reaction towards me and usually I have a townread on him at this point. So there is a decent chance he is mafia. He clearly isn't being lynched though which means discussing it is kinda pointless. Okay yeah, so your vote is useless. Who else are you looking into today then? sass I don't think I want to lynch Moosy, I kinda think I actually stand by my earlier do not lynch list aside from maybe Cephiro. marv, why are we killing cephiro? can you tell me why not? I'm curious as to Palmar's question as well actually.
same question to you then. can you tell me why not?
i explained my feelings with my original vote.
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well see above then
i imagine you probably dislike the content of his posts more than i do.
i never particularly like the content of his posts regardless of his alignment.
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can't agree at all on Wile i'm afraid.
still not got over him describing his original questions as some sort of test.
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On September 17 2015 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 00:50 marvellosity wrote:
can't agree at all on Wile i'm afraid.
still not got over him describing his original questions as some sort of test. If you had played video mafia you would. Like they do shit like robik's smiley reads and dumb stuff like that. It's never going to be a reason to scumread Wile.
not really admissable.
still feels post-hoc-y as a justification.
i'm not saying silly tests and stuff isn't what people do in general.
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On September 17 2015 00:54 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 00:52 justanothertownie wrote:
I also don't see any reason to townread damdred or warwaffle. I have already explained why damdred should (level 1) be townread. I think that's more than good enough for today.
I (in my tentative, ignoring Damdred way) agree
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On September 17 2015 00:59 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 00:47 marvellosity wrote:On September 17 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 17 2015 00:46 marvellosity wrote:On September 17 2015 00:42 Palmar wrote:On September 17 2015 00:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 17 2015 00:29 justanothertownie wrote:On September 17 2015 00:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:
JAT I don't understand your vote on marv. Is it out of spite or because you really think he's Mafia? I am majorly irritated by his reaction towards me and usually I have a townread on him at this point. So there is a decent chance he is mafia. He clearly isn't being lynched though which means discussing it is kinda pointless. Okay yeah, so your vote is useless. Who else are you looking into today then? sass I don't think I want to lynch Moosy, I kinda think I actually stand by my earlier do not lynch list aside from maybe Cephiro. marv, why are we killing cephiro? can you tell me why not? I'm curious as to Palmar's question as well actually. same question to you then. can you tell me why not? i explained my feelings with my original vote. One of the things that makes me want to kill you every fucking game is your refusal to rehash your reasons knowing full well your filter is long and almost entirely useless. Like I'd ask you to rehash your reasons but I know you're just gonna be an ass about it
well, i like the fact that you're finally learning? ish
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at some point some nice-looking prose that mostly talks about yourself/game theory that mostly happened in the first 12-24h stops looking good and starts to look quite bad when it is all the substance of your game.
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On September 17 2015 01:07 geript wrote:
You can blame this on me and my business I'm sure isn't helping, but I really think at least 1 of the vet circle is mafia. I'm not mafia, and I don't think Palmer makes that read as mafia. I'm pretty sure Marv is town.
You can blame me afterwards if I'm wrong. Idc. But I'm really struggling to townread the people I usually have an easy time reading (Rayn/Damdred). IDc about JAT or Koshi as idk how to read them and cba to think about it currently.
But I'm really sure moosy/Tww are both town. I hopefully will be home ~1.5 hr prior to lynch but no promises as if we go long I'll be stck on phone. But please take a look at your reads on each other (I will too when I get back) because I think this lynch is spinning wrong and I can't figure out why I think that.
can you splain? or tell me you already did so i can go search for it.
like you/rayn have said so but i just don't get it. like i understand there are reasons that he *could* be town, i mentioned one myself, but i don't understand the certainty about it floating around
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On September 17 2015 01:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote:
oh
yeah, if cephiro is mafia it's probably mostly because he took a fairly universal townread on him and just sat on his ass with it. Cephiro is mafia because when he is town he tries to find mafia, when he is mafia he is more interested in arguing why he isn't mafia and reading obvious townies town.
yes. although he can totes make posts like he has this game as town.
except there will also be more useful things, which is the rather important stuff we are missing.
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On September 17 2015 01:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 01:16 marvellosity wrote:On September 17 2015 01:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote:
oh
yeah, if cephiro is mafia it's probably mostly because he took a fairly universal townread on him and just sat on his ass with it. Cephiro is mafia because when he is town he tries to find mafia, when he is mafia he is more interested in arguing why he isn't mafia and reading obvious townies town. yes. although he can totes make posts like he has this game as town. except there will also be more useful things, which is the rather important stuff we are missing. If you read the SMB game Koshi posted a while ago the difference is huge. I know he occasionally makes posts like he has here as town, but when all of his posts are like that (remember Noir?) then he is scum. Anyways he should be back later, at least he said he has some errands to run, then mafia, when i asked him to come play heroes earlier.
alright. i will trust you to work it out if/when he is here.
when i leave work in ~40 minutes my activity will be very spotty for the evening.
i wish we could agree more on moosy or you could find a way to explain things better to me so i get what you're getting at better.
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On September 17 2015 01:21 Cephiro wrote:
Alright, I'm currently re-reading the thread as I eat before posting any further thoughts.
However, I'd like to address the hilarity of some people before I do.
I find it quite sad that people are considering me mafia when my content has not changed at all, the only difference is my level of activity. As in, it's extremely funny to read these posts considering me as mafia from the people that leaned town on me, without any further reasoning. That's wishy-washy if I've ever seen it. If they at least based their reasoning on process of elimination, as in what others have brought to the table, I could understand it, but they haven't. So basically the only real reasoning they have to push me as mafia is 1) My level of activity & 2) Because it fits their agenda better
If you ask me, both are fairly bullshit reasons. As for those that are currently voting me as pressure for me to make content, that's fairly pointless. I play and post when I have the time to do so with nothing else taking the priority over mafia. I couldn't care less if people vote for me because I haven't said something in a while or not. The only reason anyone should be voting for me is if they truly think I'm mafia.
At least a few people have pointed out something small such as an "inconsistency" between me telling people to banter about, and then "overreacting and being serious" when I get told I'm mafia for nothing. And well, if some people honestly think that makes a person mafia, then by all means do vote for me, and additionally make yourself look like an idiot.
If you push me, push me for real reasons instead of marginal bullshit you have to pretty much make up to have something to go at me.
A sidenote for the "meta" thing I've never enjoyed: I can't believe some people are seriously even mentioning anything that I've done in games from 2 years back. It's like saying "I played rock-paper-scissors with this random guy years ago and he picked scissors. Now I met him again and we decided to play it again, I'm sure he's going to pick scissors again." Like are you even for real? How stupid is that.
But yeah, that'll be it until I'm done re-reading.
the thing is, you don't get to decide what you are and aren't pushed for, and asking for stuff doesn't change things.
but if you care, 3/4 of the game do have better reasons to be town than you do right now.
btw if it weren't for meta, you would be 5x scummy as you are currently.
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On September 17 2015 01:33 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 01:21 marvellosity wrote:On September 17 2015 01:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 01:16 marvellosity wrote:On September 17 2015 01:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote:
oh
yeah, if cephiro is mafia it's probably mostly because he took a fairly universal townread on him and just sat on his ass with it. Cephiro is mafia because when he is town he tries to find mafia, when he is mafia he is more interested in arguing why he isn't mafia and reading obvious townies town. yes. although he can totes make posts like he has this game as town. except there will also be more useful things, which is the rather important stuff we are missing. If you read the SMB game Koshi posted a while ago the difference is huge. I know he occasionally makes posts like he has here as town, but when all of his posts are like that (remember Noir?) then he is scum. Anyways he should be back later, at least he said he has some errands to run, then mafia, when i asked him to come play heroes earlier. alright. i will trust you to work it out if/when he is here. when i leave work in ~40 minutes my activity will be very spotty for the evening. i wish we could agree more on moosy or you could find a way to explain things better to me so i get what you're getting at better. Plz marv. Plz just trust me on this read. I tried to in part kinda bs a read on him to explain it slightly. But tbh part of what I've seen of his townplay is an early similarity to how I played town early. Over importance and confidence in his reads/worth to town. That's something that, like Prome said about me once, I think he would have a hard time replicating as scum.
are you quoting the wrong post?
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On September 17 2015 01:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
If no one is willing to entertain a Coyote lynch I guess I might switch to Cephiro as promised.
I am entertaining it.
if ceph produces townie content and wile doesn't especially.
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hihi, just got home
not sure i have time to catchup, is there stuff i should really be looking at?
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On September 17 2015 06:20 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 06:19 marvellosity wrote:
hihi, just got home
not sure i have time to catchup, is there stuff i should really be looking at? lynch moosy, lynch jat, shennanie onto onegu who no1 has a read on that's pretty much the current state of the thread. with geript being a distant option.
has Wile redeemed himself then?
question is for anyone
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On September 17 2015 06:22 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 06:21 marvellosity wrote:On September 17 2015 06:20 ritoky wrote:On September 17 2015 06:19 marvellosity wrote:
hihi, just got home
not sure i have time to catchup, is there stuff i should really be looking at? lynch moosy, lynch jat, shennanie onto onegu who no1 has a read on that's pretty much the current state of the thread. with geript being a distant option. has Wile redeemed himself then? question is for anyone yes he did something I think was super towny
being?
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i'm in ceph's filter atm.
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alright, i'm gonna go look for myself.
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On September 17 2015 06:25 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 06:23 marvellosity wrote:On September 17 2015 06:22 Damdred wrote:On September 17 2015 06:21 marvellosity wrote:On September 17 2015 06:20 ritoky wrote:On September 17 2015 06:19 marvellosity wrote:
hihi, just got home
not sure i have time to catchup, is there stuff i should really be looking at? lynch moosy, lynch jat, shennanie onto onegu who no1 has a read on that's pretty much the current state of the thread. with geript being a distant option. has Wile redeemed himself then? question is for anyone yes he did something I think was super towny being? He was doing catch up posts where he was commenting as he was coming. And he came to a moosey post and it felt like a ah ha moment where it felt like he had caught moosey in something then mildly dissapointed that others had picked up on it. It just felt super towny
yes ok, not sure about super towny but i'm definitely getting it. hrmph
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rayn have you added anything to your moosy case since i was last in the thread?
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i don't think i want to lynch jat... reading the last posts in his filter. it's not a massive amount of content but it's very focused and to the point in the words he used.
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On September 17 2015 06:41 Palmar wrote:
rayn confirmed day cop.
Also people should never, ever, ever lynch my leaning town reads.
You're all bad.
"people should never lynch my leaning town reads"
"one of my townreads is always wrong"
you are a penis.
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On September 17 2015 06:41 Palmar wrote:your vote was late but whatever. Why did you vote moosy with your late vote?
thought the deadline was half an hour later. was looking through filters trying to find stuff. kept coming across towny stuff in the ones i looked at.
saw your 10 seconds to go post, had to vote someone there and then so sheeping rayn (who was on someone i hadn't looked at just now) seemed like a cool thing to do
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On September 17 2015 06:43 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 06:43 marvellosity wrote:On September 17 2015 06:41 Palmar wrote:On September 17 2015 06:40 marvellosity wrote:
well, ok your vote was late but whatever. Why did you vote moosy with your late vote? thought the deadline was half an hour later. was looking through filters trying to find stuff. kept coming across towny stuff in the ones i looked at. saw your 10 seconds to go post, had to vote someone there and then so sheeping rayn (who was on someone i hadn't looked at just now) seemed like a cool thing to do meehhh~~~ Consider the waffle engaged.
*raises eyebrow* there's literally not a single possibly suspicious thing in that post lol
should be obvious enough it's the truth by the way i'm casually reporting back on jat right at deadline. i'm not THAT crafty
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On September 17 2015 06:44 Palmar wrote:
Like there is a goddamn countdown in his vote count posts.
although tbh that'd be a strange thing to lie about.
exceptionally strange, and i think even you can agree i don't like about exceptionally strange things
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On September 17 2015 06:45 Damdred wrote:Nobody likes sheeping me. IDK why I'm never sheepable
i noticed a few grumbles in your direction, why is that?
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On September 17 2015 06:45 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 06:44 Palmar wrote:
Like there is a goddamn countdown in his vote count posts.
although tbh that'd be a strange thing to lie about. exceptionally strange, and i think even you can agree i don't like about exceptionally strange things
*lie
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On September 17 2015 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am demotivated rn.
I'll do one of the two things;
1) i'll reread the thread and post before i go to the harbor tomorrow
2) I'll post into my mason QT later and tell my mason partner who is not mafia btw to post in the thread on D2 in case i die. I'll also make sure marv knows who my mason partner is in case i am horribly wrong on them.
i love you
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On September 17 2015 06:47 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 06:44 marvellosity wrote:On September 17 2015 06:43 Palmar wrote:On September 17 2015 06:43 marvellosity wrote:On September 17 2015 06:41 Palmar wrote:On September 17 2015 06:40 marvellosity wrote:
well, ok your vote was late but whatever. Why did you vote moosy with your late vote? thought the deadline was half an hour later. was looking through filters trying to find stuff. kept coming across towny stuff in the ones i looked at. saw your 10 seconds to go post, had to vote someone there and then so sheeping rayn (who was on someone i hadn't looked at just now) seemed like a cool thing to do meehhh~~~ Consider the waffle engaged. *raises eyebrow* there's literally not a single possibly suspicious thing in that post lol should be obvious enough it's the truth by the way i'm casually reporting back on jat right at deadline. i'm not THAT crafty No not in that post. If you're mafia it's not for that post specifically. If you're mafia it's because you had no idea what to do today, because you were wrong on moosy (yes you get more scum points than others for being wrong) and because you sheeped something you barely believed in.
so you're arguing that i decided to go into filters of people i'd shown suspicion of before, find towny things, and thus leave myself with only someone i had previously said was a bad lynch?
have some respect. it was moosy/jat and i'd literally just come out of jat's filter feeling i didn't want to lynch him. what do you want me to do, dearest?
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then again it is night. maybe i won't interact with you at night.
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except for thinly veiled sarcastic oneliners, obviously
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yeah, if Wile is sl, he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt for the thing that Damdred pointed out.
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can you explain why you think it's more likely? i kinda subscribed to the Palmar train of thought on him, for as much as i thought about him
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do i have to think about him? literally the reason i stopped trying to read him is i kept finding everything he did scummy no matter his alignment :<
i'm prone to agree with jat's 'guilty conscience' type point.
was just reading through damdy's filter in relation to rayn's post
On September 15 2015 10:27 Damdred wrote:
Koshi is really town here like id be impressed if this is scum game koshi.
Geript has a few posts that give me a small amount of pause that he could potentially be town like his moosey read is something that he would do when he's town. But he just is lacking some form of curiosity he might has here.
That being said that one read on moosey really has me doubting my scum read currently. It just looks so towny of him to do.
The more I think about it the more I want to town read him and I defdinately don't want to lynch him now...
I remember liking this post at the time, not even because it actually has content, but because it seems a really natural way of flipping on a read as he was posting/thinking. it would be a very ballsy and weird way to deal with your partner (if we assume a bus situation, which is one of the ways the post would make sense) because he'd go from scumreading geript for some things -> turning it around in one post, i don't even know why you'd ever go about it like this
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On September 17 2015 18:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 18:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Like, why does he think he "needs protection" against me if I am obvious mafia like he claims? Hmmm okat that makes sense rofl.
yeah it does
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do you agree/disagree with what i said about that post though?
or is there something i'm not considering
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On September 17 2015 18:58 justanothertownie wrote:
Like, am I missing something or why do you tie him to geript? Unlike rayn I am not convinced geript is mafia. But I also didn't catch up yet.
like i'm considering various alignment scenarios.
so the thing being discussed is damdred being potentially mafia, so i'm thinking if damdred is mafia making that post, then geript is mafia or town
if geript is town, then i think it's exceptionally odd to kinda build suspicion on him to make that post that ends up with him "definitely" not wanting to lynch geript, it's very decisive and closing doors
so if geript is mafia, it makes a little more sense in that you're manufacturing an about turn on your scumbuddy? but i don't get why he'd say all the things he said about geript already if that were the case
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On September 17 2015 18:57 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 18:55 marvellosity wrote:
do you agree/disagree with what i said about that post though?
or is there something i'm not considering I am not really seeing what you see in that post. You can call it "natural" or you can call it a wishy washy, inconclusive pile of words.
it's the way you watch him about-turning in his own post
and his conclusion was not wishy washy either
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also while it just crossed my mind - my weekend plans that got cancelled got reinstated in a different form, so again i'll be very largely afk friday evening - sunday
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do you understand what i'm saying in the post above that though?
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maybe i'm reading too much into one post.
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possibly. the post is definitely better for coming to a firm conclusion rather than just a waffle though, it's the decisiveness at the end of the about-turn that i thought made it quite townie.
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On September 17 2015 19:12 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 19:04 marvellosity wrote:On September 17 2015 18:58 justanothertownie wrote:
Like, am I missing something or why do you tie him to geript? Unlike rayn I am not convinced geript is mafia. But I also didn't catch up yet. like i'm considering various alignment scenarios. so the thing being discussed is damdred being potentially mafia, so i'm thinking if damdred is mafia making that post, then geript is mafia or town if geript is town, then i think it's exceptionally odd to kinda build suspicion on him to make that post that ends up with him "definitely" not wanting to lynch geript, it's very decisive and closing doors so if geript is mafia, it makes a little more sense in that you're manufacturing an about turn on your scumbuddy? but i don't get why he'd say all the things he said about geript already if that were the case And when Damdred is town and I'm town and Rayn is mafia?
then i need a bump of k
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the thing is, geript, when rayn is mafia he doesn't push his mislynches based on mysterious stuff floating in the air that no-one/few people are quite grasping
he's clear and picks on things that you can evaluate yourself, he'll push on inconsistencies that don't make that player mafia. it would be a quite remarkable push as mafia, one that i'd love to replicate myself as scum sometime, but i'm not sure it's even possible to do
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On September 17 2015 19:26 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 19:17 marvellosity wrote:
the thing is, geript, when rayn is mafia he doesn't push his mislynches based on mysterious stuff floating in the air that no-one/few people are quite grasping
he's clear and picks on things that you can evaluate yourself, he'll push on inconsistencies that don't make that player mafia. it would be a quite remarkable push as mafia, one that i'd love to replicate myself as scum sometime, but i'm not sure it's even possible to do I'm pretty sure I explained how he pushed on things that didn't make Moosy anything. Like go back through. Where is there a single damn thing that moosy did that Rayn pushes him for that makes him mafia? You're telling me, no he's town and here's what he does as scum. Yet I pretty specifically outlined what he did and it aligns with your scumread of him??????? Wtf
nope.
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like i'm not even sure what you're babbling about.
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oh i see. no, the point is that mafiarayn's pushes are on the surface pretty reasonable. i don't think this push was ever that reasonable, it just seemed he believed very strongly in it.
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as an aside, i find it quite funny that you always ask me to "trust" your reads.
but here you're trying to convince me that one of the best historic reads that TL Mafia has ever seen is bound to be wrong.
this relationship is very one-sided.
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really should have just lynched jat for the reaction it would have got out of him either way
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i'm chuckling to myself at the thought.
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na my Palmar read is better because i'd say it's even slightly more correct, and what really makes it better is that it is often against everyone else saying i am wrong (whereas you are kinda more obviously town when you are town, usually)
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On September 17 2015 19:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 19:36 marvellosity wrote:
really should have just lynched jat for the reaction it would have got out of him either way No. He is almost definitely town.
you misunderstand the point of my post
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na, i've grown too fond of you.
you don't ever try to tell me how to play
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On September 17 2015 19:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 19:37 marvellosity wrote:
na my Palmar read is better because i'd say it's even slightly more correct, and what really makes it better is that it is often against everyone else saying i am wrong (whereas you are kinda more obviously town when you are town, usually) Is palmar town here? Like for sure. I know i am 99% sure of him being town but i am a sucker for gim townreading me for right reasons for reasons... you know why.
I'm not sure sure sure. like he is my 3rd townie. I went and quoted some posts last game and people just looked at me like i was mad, so i'm not gonna do that again.
many tonally good posts (my usual starting basis). his approach to me seems infuriatingly unforced (we always go through the same dance).
the only thing that makes me doubt is the absence of a true hardpush, retardio or not.
pretty sure if Palmar is somehow mafia he has to hit me tonight, because even if he is somehow playing out of his skin and fooling me right now, i don't think he can keep it up forever (hi mafia!)
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On September 17 2015 20:04 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 19:32 marvellosity wrote:
oh i see. no, the point is that mafiarayn's pushes are on the surface pretty reasonable. i don't think this push was ever that reasonable, it just seemed he believed very strongly in it. and yet you voted for it.
point in bringing this up again?
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On September 17 2015 20:06 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 20:05 marvellosity wrote:On September 17 2015 20:04 Palmar wrote:On September 17 2015 19:32 marvellosity wrote:
oh i see. no, the point is that mafiarayn's pushes are on the surface pretty reasonable. i don't think this push was ever that reasonable, it just seemed he believed very strongly in it. and yet you voted for it. point in bringing this up again? You 2 could have just lynched Cephiro instead. Just saying.
hindsight is a wonderful thing.
no regrets.
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On September 17 2015 20:08 Wile E. Coyote wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 20:05 justanothertownie wrote:On September 17 2015 20:01 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Thats not a very nice thing to say to someone that helped keep you in the game. Like do you guys listen to yourselves. You both town read me and now i am apparently mafia because im a different person. Your taking meta to a whole new level I never ever townread you broski. yes you did. or at the very least you said you dont want to lynch me. why would you bring this theory up at night I could get nked but not if you shit on me
LOL
nice
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On September 17 2015 20:11 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 20:10 marvellosity wrote:On September 17 2015 20:08 Wile E. Coyote wrote:On September 17 2015 20:05 justanothertownie wrote:On September 17 2015 20:01 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Thats not a very nice thing to say to someone that helped keep you in the game. Like do you guys listen to yourselves. You both town read me and now i am apparently mafia because im a different person. Your taking meta to a whole new level I never ever townread you broski. yes you did. or at the very least you said you dont want to lynch me. why would you bring this theory up at night I could get nked but not if you shit on me LOL nice Do you need any more proof that this is SL? ^^
i thought the vegetables were already very convincing, really
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On September 17 2015 20:20 Palmar wrote:
I have no idea btw why the read on him would go 180 based on nothing but his identity. I sort of understand why rayn would think it does (rayn has stronger opinions than your average jihadist), but I don't like the fact that people seem to be eating that stuff up.
marv you said "he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt". No benefit was given to him. The damdred point was about the genuine-ness of his reactions to reading the thread. There was no benefit of the doubt involved.
I'm going to try to get opinions out into the thread throughout today.
sicklucker is known for being sneaky like that.
something something levels something.
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On September 17 2015 20:20 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 20:12 Palmar wrote:
lol.
There's 2 options here.
this guy is sicklucker and sicklucker has a massively small penis.
this guy isn't sicklucker and doesn't know sicklucker is literally never going to be nightkilled this game. 1 is true and he's literally to dumb to realize 2 will never happen. Like NKing SL is like bussing a mafia partner. He could be claimed cop with a red check and it's literally more worthwhile to keep SL around as mafia than NK him.
don't be a meanie.
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On September 17 2015 23:35 Damdred wrote:
Palmar defends me... That touches me right here *oats chest*.
First things first there was 0 reason really to town read jat d1 and a decent amount of reasons to kill him. He might say things I've sad are blatant lies but even if he is town he's the most biased person in the thread in that regard and I'm not lying.
Secondly I might be wrong but I haven't been spectacularly wrong this game most my reads have been pretty good.
Most of the things jats pulling against me is pretty nai.
Also I've talked a lot about geript for a few reasons
1) I'm generally good at reading geript
2) he was a point of contention for a lot of the early thread
3) when I was talking about other things near eod rayn kept asking me about geript up to a point.
based on... ?
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when I was quickly reading Ceph last night, i was being all mature and thought that ceph's suspicions of me at least seemed to be developing somewhat naturally.
the fact he didn't follow through on them at all is basically megashit, though.
i'm pretty sure he will write stuff at SOME point, but it's kinda convenient to bring up suspicions and then not follow through on the content promised within some sort of reasonable timeframe. that's super easy to do.
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On September 17 2015 04:30 scott31337 wrote:
I have to travel to another building so I won't be on for a bit (I'll try to get on before lynch)
Replacing before deadline and having 50+ pages to read and work is impossible.
JAT looks the worst from what I've read so far - so that's where my votes going right now.
I'll be back in a bit.
boo.
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On September 18 2015 00:12 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 23:35 Damdred wrote:
Secondly I might be wrong but I haven't been spectacularly wrong this game most my reads have been pretty good.
How the fuck would you know?
2 slow 2 b kewl
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cop should totally check me, that sounds like a totally sensible use of a cop's resources.
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On September 17 2015 06:18 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
like ceph is never mafia here I think. he doesint even wanna return a vote on onegu when his life is on the line. So unless there partners and onegus doing some sort of terrible afk bus ceph is always going to be town here
On September 17 2015 06:27 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
moosys not really doing anything to warrant unvotes. moosy/jat/ceph i think is my pref order
er??
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On September 18 2015 00:19 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 00:17 marvellosity wrote:
cop should totally check me, that sounds like a totally sensible use of a cop's resources. good, we agree then.
*rolls eyes*
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i can't say i'm overly concerned :p
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On September 18 2015 00:26 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 00:19 marvellosity wrote:On September 17 2015 06:18 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
like ceph is never mafia here I think. he doesint even wanna return a vote on onegu when his life is on the line. So unless there partners and onegus doing some sort of terrible afk bus ceph is always going to be town here On September 17 2015 06:27 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
moosys not really doing anything to warrant unvotes. moosy/jat/ceph i think is my pref order er?? What's your point? Those posts are written at the end of the day, when there are three established wagons. It's completely consistent to say "Ceph won't flip mafia" and then to order him as the least preferable wagon of the three.
ah. hmmm, ok.
looks like i just took his filter out of context. i retract my er??
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On September 18 2015 00:27 Palmar wrote:
Like sure, wile could be mafia, but that doesn't change that jat is wrong and you are wrong marv.
'And I'm more interested in why that is.
wrong about what in particular?
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On September 18 2015 00:29 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 00:28 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 00:27 Palmar wrote:
Like sure, wile could be mafia, but that doesn't change that jat is wrong and you are wrong marv.
'And I'm more interested in why that is. wrong about what in particular? That the quote you just posted. It's not noteworty and I don't know why you're bringing it up.
if someone says someone is town and then a short while later is listing them as possible mafia then of course it's noteworthy
the fact i lacked context just means i lacked the context
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On September 18 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 00:30 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 00:29 Palmar wrote:On September 18 2015 00:28 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 00:27 Palmar wrote:
Like sure, wile could be mafia, but that doesn't change that jat is wrong and you are wrong marv.
'And I'm more interested in why that is. wrong about what in particular? That the quote you just posted. It's not noteworty and I don't know why you're bringing it up. if someone says someone is town and then a short while later is listing them as possible mafia then of course it's noteworthy the fact i lacked context just means i lacked the context the night post is literally on the same page and you should know who the wagons were. mehh~~~
same page on someone's filter?
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stretchy stretchy, bro
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like i see something, post it
if it's wrong for some reason i retract
this is not an uncommon thing for me and you know it
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On September 18 2015 00:35 Palmar wrote:
it's just....
why did you link that, and I immediately recognized that it was nothing, but you didn't. You're meant to be like... good.
everyone makes mistakes
don't you remember the case i made on someone a couple games back based on stuff on their filter that just turned out to be totally wrong because i was a dumbass?
i was just reading the posts at facevalue.
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On September 18 2015 00:39 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 00:37 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 00:35 Palmar wrote:
it's just....
why did you link that, and I immediately recognized that it was nothing, but you didn't. You're meant to be like... good. everyone makes mistakes don't you remember the case i made on someone a couple games back based on stuff on their filter that just turned out to be totally wrong because i was a dumbass? i was just reading the posts at facevalue. That was clarity.Palmar, if I am wrong with what I said about Wile point out how. My last post about him was pretty good.
took me a moment to realise you weren't making some really weird zen point
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kinda annoying that Damdred hiphopped away.
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On September 18 2015 07:24 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 07:23 geript wrote:
Am I the only person that caught that Rayn wasn't confirmed to his partner and vice versa? No, reading the OP isn't that hard.
plus rayn said so himself
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On September 18 2015 08:47 scott31337 wrote:
I've sat here thinking if I should this or not or go for the push, but I just don't think I'll have the time with how work is.
I'm hard claiming one shot tracker.
I tracked Wile E Coyote to Koshi.
oh hello there.
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this has been a surprisingly entertaining read so far
##Vote: Wile E Coyote
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On September 18 2015 12:00 scott31337 wrote:
I'm glad I didn't listen to Palmar about tracking marv.
GG Wile.
not as dopey as you look, my friend.
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On September 18 2015 18:37 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 18:32 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 08:47 scott31337 wrote:
I've sat here thinking if I should this or not or go for the push, but I just don't think I'll have the time with how work is.
I'm hard claiming one shot tracker.
I tracked Wile E Coyote to Koshi.
oh hello there. I want to know your stance on Palmar.
town
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On September 18 2015 12:35 Damdred wrote:
I was rereading some things and I'm pretty confident that geript is town now.
One of the original reasons that I thought wile was scum was his call out and pushing geript. One thing in particular was when he called geript out for not caring if someone was scum or mafia.
It was such a weird thing and was super opportunistic at that point when people were piling on geript.
I think it makes him town, so if I take ceph out for pushing wile instead of going straight to save himself I just arrive at jat palmar and Marv.
its interesting... I'll have a small amount of time to read over all three but right now id probably go jat, palm, Marv maybe switch Marv and palmar just depends. If jat is scum id put palmar last though
I agree with this geript stuff.
Not sure I agree with the Ceph stuff, although it makes sense on the surface. He's a sneaky fellow.
but i think it's probably right to take geript out, so the list is shrinking.
also the fact that you're looking to remove unconfirmed from the pool is a point in your favour
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On September 18 2015 12:44 Koshi wrote:
I havent read 1 post from palmar this game though... really.....
Maybe it is jat and palmar like I said from the get go and marv is just really really bad.
piss off Koshi ^^
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On September 18 2015 18:45 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 18:41 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 18:37 justanothertownie wrote:On September 18 2015 18:32 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 08:47 scott31337 wrote:
I've sat here thinking if I should this or not or go for the push, but I just don't think I'll have the time with how work is.
I'm hard claiming one shot tracker.
I tracked Wile E Coyote to Koshi.
oh hello there. I want to know your stance on Palmar. town Cool. Then this game is easy. It's 1-2 of you, Cephiro and damdred and we just lynch all of you. Maybe geript could be mafia too but I doubt it.
you are very much "you" here.
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no, you very much are, and trying to shovel shit on me for something you should obviously understand is the case from my point of view is just ridiculous.
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On September 18 2015 18:50 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 18:49 marvellosity wrote:
no, you very much are, and trying to shovel shit on me for something you should obviously understand is the case from my point of view is just ridiculous. I am not mafia from any point of view. I do not treat mafia buddies like I treated Wile and you fucking know that.
Swearing at me doesn't make me feel any more convinced when you write shit, so whatever sister
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On September 18 2015 18:48 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 18:46 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 18:45 justanothertownie wrote:On September 18 2015 18:41 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 18:37 justanothertownie wrote:On September 18 2015 18:32 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 08:47 scott31337 wrote:
I've sat here thinking if I should this or not or go for the push, but I just don't think I'll have the time with how work is.
I'm hard claiming one shot tracker.
I tracked Wile E Coyote to Koshi.
oh hello there. I want to know your stance on Palmar. town Cool. Then this game is easy. It's 1-2 of you, Cephiro and damdred and we just lynch all of you. Maybe geript could be mafia too but I doubt it. you are very much "you" here. No, I am very much not and if you were town you would know that after making this post when you agreed with rayn about me being almost definitely town: Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 19:37 marvellosity wrote:On September 17 2015 19:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 19:36 marvellosity wrote:
really should have just lynched jat for the reaction it would have got out of him either way No. He is almost definitely town. you misunderstand the point of my post I am just the "you" now because you are running out of options to mislynch.
btw that's not what that post said.
thing is i'm not sitting here saying you're scum. but it is possible. and from a game state point of view you should know this, so i don't know why you're trying to shout me down
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On September 18 2015 18:54 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 18:52 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 18:50 justanothertownie wrote:On September 18 2015 18:49 marvellosity wrote:
no, you very much are, and trying to shovel shit on me for something you should obviously understand is the case from my point of view is just ridiculous. I am not mafia from any point of view. I do not treat mafia buddies like I treated Wile and you fucking know that. Swearing at me doesn't make me feel any more convinced when you write shit, so whatever sister Cool how you address the swearing instead of the actual point. Are you seriously going to tell me that besides calling Wile mafia ALL GAME I go ahead and tell the thread that it is SL knowing well that it will probably get him lynched at some point? Because if you say this then you are mafia.
you think you're the only person who would notice when he says "veg"? Are you that egocentric?
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On September 18 2015 18:57 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 18:55 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 18:54 justanothertownie wrote:On September 18 2015 18:52 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 18:50 justanothertownie wrote:On September 18 2015 18:49 marvellosity wrote:
no, you very much are, and trying to shovel shit on me for something you should obviously understand is the case from my point of view is just ridiculous. I am not mafia from any point of view. I do not treat mafia buddies like I treated Wile and you fucking know that. Swearing at me doesn't make me feel any more convinced when you write shit, so whatever sister Cool how you address the swearing instead of the actual point. Are you seriously going to tell me that besides calling Wile mafia ALL GAME I go ahead and tell the thread that it is SL knowing well that it will probably get him lynched at some point? Because if you say this then you are mafia. you think you're the only person who would notice when he says "veg"? Are you that egocentric? I haven't seen anyone else be the slightest bit suspicious. You? I would NEVER do this as mafia.
yeah you noticed it before me, but me/rayn/palmar/koshi/damdred - someone isn't going to notice?
stop trying to push this as some definitive point when it just isn't, it's really stupid.
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On September 18 2015 18:58 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 18:57 Palmar wrote:On September 18 2015 18:12 justanothertownie wrote:On September 18 2015 17:35 Palmar wrote:On September 18 2015 15:06 Damdred wrote:On September 18 2015 11:39 ritoky wrote:On September 18 2015 11:36 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Oh well I got all the roles to claim and how many uses they have mission accomplished. Gl hf So what you're saying was Onegu was a miss and you have 2 partners alive? Got it. ##vote: WileNext time check the OP before you fake claim. I don't get how you say there are def two partners still though. Meh hard choices hard choices I don't think it matters how many mafia are left. we're just gonna lynch the scummiest people until the game ends. and today that's wile I fucking told you. But no, damdreds "argument" was not retarded. No way. It's easy to say mafia is mafia when he's your teammate. Sure, but in reality I am just better than you.
now i know you're in kidding about mode
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On September 18 2015 18:59 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 18:57 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 18:57 justanothertownie wrote:On September 18 2015 18:55 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 18:54 justanothertownie wrote:On September 18 2015 18:52 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 18:50 justanothertownie wrote:On September 18 2015 18:49 marvellosity wrote:
no, you very much are, and trying to shovel shit on me for something you should obviously understand is the case from my point of view is just ridiculous. I am not mafia from any point of view. I do not treat mafia buddies like I treated Wile and you fucking know that. Swearing at me doesn't make me feel any more convinced when you write shit, so whatever sister Cool how you address the swearing instead of the actual point. Are you seriously going to tell me that besides calling Wile mafia ALL GAME I go ahead and tell the thread that it is SL knowing well that it will probably get him lynched at some point? Because if you say this then you are mafia. you think you're the only person who would notice when he says "veg"? Are you that egocentric? I haven't seen anyone else be the slightest bit suspicious. You? I would NEVER do this as mafia. yeah you noticed it before me, but me/rayn/palmar/koshi/damdred - someone isn't going to notice? stop trying to push this as some definitive point when it just isn't, it's really stupid. It is a definitive point. Even if I was mafia and had thought people could pick up on it I still would not point it out first. Whatever.
no, you're just desperate for it to be. which you could be as either alignment tbf.
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On September 18 2015 18:59 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 18:59 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 18:58 justanothertownie wrote:On September 18 2015 18:57 Palmar wrote:On September 18 2015 18:12 justanothertownie wrote:On September 18 2015 17:35 Palmar wrote:On September 18 2015 15:06 Damdred wrote:On September 18 2015 11:39 ritoky wrote:On September 18 2015 11:36 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Oh well I got all the roles to claim and how many uses they have mission accomplished. Gl hf So what you're saying was Onegu was a miss and you have 2 partners alive? Got it. ##vote: WileNext time check the OP before you fake claim. I don't get how you say there are def two partners still though. Meh hard choices hard choices I don't think it matters how many mafia are left. we're just gonna lynch the scummiest people until the game ends. and today that's wile I fucking told you. But no, damdreds "argument" was not retarded. No way. It's easy to say mafia is mafia when he's your teammate. Sure, but in reality I am just better than you. now i know you're in kidding about mode wow marv... that love brings tear to my eye
like comparing cow turds to kitty turds
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On September 18 2015 19:03 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 19:03 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 18:59 Palmar wrote:On September 18 2015 18:59 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 18:58 justanothertownie wrote:On September 18 2015 18:57 Palmar wrote:On September 18 2015 18:12 justanothertownie wrote:On September 18 2015 17:35 Palmar wrote:On September 18 2015 15:06 Damdred wrote:On September 18 2015 11:39 ritoky wrote:
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So what you're saying was Onegu was a miss and you have 2 partners alive? Got it.
##vote: Wile
Next time check the OP before you fake claim. I don't get how you say there are def two partners still though. Meh hard choices hard choices I don't think it matters how many mafia are left. we're just gonna lynch the scummiest people until the game ends. and today that's wile I fucking told you. But no, damdreds "argument" was not retarded. No way. It's easy to say mafia is mafia when he's your teammate. Sure, but in reality I am just better than you. now i know you're in kidding about mode wow marv... that love brings tear to my eye like comparing cow turds to kitty turds Good backtrack, you almost said something nice about someone. close one.
I've got a reputation to uphold bbz
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don't really know about damdy but i like my own point where he's trying to townclear unconfirmeds
at the very least, that's not "level 1" play (yesssss, i got in on this level action)
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On September 18 2015 19:08 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 19:06 marvellosity wrote:
don't really know about damdy but i like my own point where he's trying to townclear unconfirmeds
at the very least, that's not "level 1" play (yesssss, i got in on this level action) He "cleared" someone he had strongly townread before the claims and it is not like he can't go back on this later.
yes, it's always possible to explain how something that looks towny doesn't necessarily have to be towny. that's the nature of the game
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On September 18 2015 19:14 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 19:13 Palmar wrote:On September 18 2015 19:11 justanothertownie wrote:On September 18 2015 19:10 Palmar wrote:On September 18 2015 19:08 justanothertownie wrote:On September 18 2015 19:06 Palmar wrote:On September 18 2015 19:04 justanothertownie wrote:On September 18 2015 19:03 Palmar wrote:On September 18 2015 19:03 justanothertownie wrote:On September 18 2015 19:02 Palmar wrote:
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3 of the people in this post could be mafia. one of them is not damdred. (hint, the third one is the op) Why on earth do you think damdred is town? Because irrelevant of the fact wile is mafia, his point was valid. It wasn't and even if it was it doesn't make him town. I know running out of mislynches sucks but bro... Damdred is town. also technically maybe there's just one mafia left (after wile) so there's that. No, I refuse to believe that damdred is this terrible as town. He can be terrible but not like this. If you are town and he is mafia I expect an apology post game. So who is mafia then in your opinion? Because I am not. 1-2 out of: geript, you, marv, ceph Like I actually think it's more likely it's just one person. It's possibly geript, who is just trolling at this point. Yeah, so I have been bussing my whole mafia team all game, hm? You know what I think of bussing Palmar. You fucking know it. If you're town all you have to do is be less mafia than the other people in this list Go forth and shit rainbows my beautiful independent manlet! I already shat enough rainbows for you to mistake me for a goddamn unicorn. I can't help you if you are blind.
unicorns are white dear
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damn that actually makes sense
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in as much as a mythical creature shitting a meteorological phenomenon can, that is
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On September 18 2015 19:19 Palmar wrote:
The one thing I dread doing this game is trying to lynch marv, which, if the game is not over in like 2 days, is totally going to be a thing.
i cba with that. let's win before then please.
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it's ok. 3 years of not being mislynched does bring a certain confidence.
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On September 18 2015 19:21 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 19:20 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 19:19 Palmar wrote:
The one thing I dread doing this game is trying to lynch marv, which, if the game is not over in like 2 days, is totally going to be a thing. i cba with that. let's win before then please. I'm in. tomorrow, you find mafia. It could very well be your last shot of finding mafia this game (if onegu was scum). Would you really be ok with a game where 0 mafia were brought to justice by marv?
Very much yes?
i've been playing very much just to play and be social for a lot of this year, as you know
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On September 18 2015 19:26 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 19:20 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 19:19 Palmar wrote:
The one thing I dread doing this game is trying to lynch marv, which, if the game is not over in like 2 days, is totally going to be a thing. i cba with that. let's win before then please. Cool, then figure out the game. It should be very easy from your position if Palmar is town. Hint: I am not mafia. It will be easier if you just accept this very obvious truth.
hint: this does not make you look any townier
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On September 18 2015 19:27 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 19:20 Palmar wrote:
tomorrow is basically your purgatory marv. You have to deliver mafia on a platter or there's going to be problems. Yes.
back atcha
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On September 18 2015 19:27 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 19:26 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 19:26 justanothertownie wrote:On September 18 2015 19:20 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 19:19 Palmar wrote:
The one thing I dread doing this game is trying to lynch marv, which, if the game is not over in like 2 days, is totally going to be a thing. i cba with that. let's win before then please. Cool, then figure out the game. It should be very easy from your position if Palmar is town. Hint: I am not mafia. It will be easier if you just accept this very obvious truth. hint: this does not make you look any townier I don't care. I do not have to look townier. There is more than enough reason for you to come to this conclusion already.
you're seriously self-deluded.
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you're dull as fuck. stop pushing this stupid crap.
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On September 18 2015 19:31 justanothertownie wrote:
There is nothing dull about it. Just do it and if you are town you will see how true it is.
all this "and if you are town" while trying to self-clear just makes you look worse, my dear.
but do carry on
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On September 18 2015 19:32 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 19:31 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 19:31 justanothertownie wrote:
There is nothing dull about it. Just do it and if you are town you will see how true it is. all this "and if you are town" while trying to self-clear just makes you look worse, my dear. but do carry on And why would that be? Are you saying you are obvious town? Because when Palmar and me are both saying you could be mafia you probably aren't.
Palmar would very often be hedging on me at this point, and it looks like you're at the least being bad
i was practically confirmed town to rayn and geript who also knows me very well is confident i am town
your arguments are silly.
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essentially mafia killed the one player who would never get me lynched this game. nice for them huh
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On September 18 2015 19:36 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 19:34 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 19:32 justanothertownie wrote:On September 18 2015 19:31 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 19:31 justanothertownie wrote:
There is nothing dull about it. Just do it and if you are town you will see how true it is. all this "and if you are town" while trying to self-clear just makes you look worse, my dear. but do carry on And why would that be? Are you saying you are obvious town? Because when Palmar and me are both saying you could be mafia you probably aren't. Palmar would very often be hedging on me at this point, and it looks like you're at the least being bad i was practically confirmed town to rayn and geript who also knows me very well is confident i am town your arguments are silly. So geript is town? Rayn has been wrong on you before more than once. Geript has been incredibly wrong on you recently.
sure rayn and geript could be wrong (or mafia in geript's case, yes, but i don't think so) on me after 13 pages of filter and a full cycle, but you're trying to bring up that you being suspicious of me and Palmar (LOL) means something when compared to that.
like i said: silly.
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On September 18 2015 19:40 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 19:37 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 19:36 justanothertownie wrote:On September 18 2015 19:34 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 19:32 justanothertownie wrote:On September 18 2015 19:31 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 19:31 justanothertownie wrote:
There is nothing dull about it. Just do it and if you are town you will see how true it is. all this "and if you are town" while trying to self-clear just makes you look worse, my dear. but do carry on And why would that be? Are you saying you are obvious town? Because when Palmar and me are both saying you could be mafia you probably aren't. Palmar would very often be hedging on me at this point, and it looks like you're at the least being bad i was practically confirmed town to rayn and geript who also knows me very well is confident i am town your arguments are silly. So geript is town? Rayn has been wrong on you before more than once. Geript has been incredibly wrong on you recently. sure rayn and geript could be wrong (or mafia in geript's case, yes, but i don't think so) on me after 13 pages of filter and a full cycle, but you're trying to bring up that you being suspicious of me and Palmar (LOL) means something when compared to that. like i said: silly. We have the best read on you in this game. We are also the only people who have reliably lynched you during the last year when you were mafia with imperial as exception and there were moments when we were close there too.
no, no. Palmar is great at lynching me when i am mafia and i am not trying.
he is also great at hedging and calling me mafia when i am town.
+ don't flatter yourself.
anyway this particular argument is a dead end, so i'll stop with it
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so you've never been wrong on me except the only mafia game in recent times that i tried in?
top stuff
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alright, you're god, these other players are trash, you're obviously right about everything because you're so awesome etc.
srsly enough of this one.
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definitely one of the best scrubs.
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On September 18 2015 19:49 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 19:46 marvellosity wrote:
alright, you're god, these other players are trash, you're obviously right about everything because you're so awesome etc.
srsly enough of this one. I am not saying anything like that. Those are just the facts. If Palmar and me both think you are mafia it means something. But sure, we can stop this so you can start figuring out that it basically has to be damdred/cephiro or maybe geript if it's not you.
Palmar hedging/waffling on me/suggesting it's possible i'm mafia means absolutely nothing.
figure it out yourself my love.
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On September 18 2015 19:51 ritoky wrote:![[image loading]](https://russellnoble.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/download.jpeg)
fair picture
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On September 18 2015 19:52 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 19:50 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 19:49 justanothertownie wrote:On September 18 2015 19:46 marvellosity wrote:
alright, you're god, these other players are trash, you're obviously right about everything because you're so awesome etc.
srsly enough of this one. I am not saying anything like that. Those are just the facts. If Palmar and me both think you are mafia it means something. But sure, we can stop this so you can start figuring out that it basically has to be damdred/cephiro or maybe geript if it's not you. Palmar hedging/waffling on me/suggesting it's possible i'm mafia means absolutely nothing. figure it out yourself my love. I already said my part. I think geript is the least likely. Damdred probably the most likely followed by you and cephiro.
I would lynch Cephiro above Damdred fo sho. And we agree on geript. fiddle you/me, and voila.
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I don't, and never really have, bought the argument that mafia just vote for the other wagon, because it's so bloody transparent. if you think you can manage to avoid doing so, it's obviously the right play not to do that.
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in addition to that, having avoided the lynch, we got nothing from him. Such lack of cares
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On September 18 2015 20:02 ritoky wrote:
there's not voting on moosy for town cred and voting on some rando -> ceph probably capable of this as mafia
then there's joining the other main wagon and pushing your partner -> not sure if capable of this
do you think wile was ever likely to get lynched there?
there was a lot of pushback against it.
if you think your scumbuddy isn't going to get lynched, pushing/voting him (especially when you have zero thread sway) is v good strat.
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and don't forget, Cephiro has been playing mafia for longer than i have.
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think of him as a highly intelligent vet who likes making plays as either alignment and has been playing 4+ years.
evidence for the above: TL Mafia database.
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we can lynch jat instead if you like
*braces self*
meh, if someone is mafia then someone is mafia.
that game we mislynched you d2 as town while you were hard-defending the other LHF (Onegu)... LHF is often just LHF because they are scum
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On September 18 2015 20:17 Palmar wrote:
if cephiro is mafia he is either being bussed or the only one remaining.
who else wants to lynch ceph first?
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On September 18 2015 20:21 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 20:17 marvellosity wrote:
we can lynch jat instead if you like
*braces self*
meh, if someone is mafia then someone is mafia.
that game we mislynched you d2 as town while you were hard-defending the other LHF (Onegu)... LHF is often just LHF because they are scum to be fair, I was miller with a cop red check on me. i was fucked beyond belief, but yeah my reads were dumpster that game.
you weren't checked that game if i remember?
anyway my point wasn't about the quality of your reads or anything, more the nature of LHF.
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On September 18 2015 20:25 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 20:18 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 20:17 Palmar wrote:
if cephiro is mafia he is either being bussed or the only one remaining. who else wants to lynch ceph first? Idk, it seems like everyone is sort of fine with lynching him.
weak reasoning, given the nature of confirmeds and unconfirmeds and stuff here.
in addition there's 10 players alive, and at MOST 1 who can bus/defend cephiro, based on wile flipping mafia.
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On September 18 2015 20:43 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 20:28 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 20:25 Palmar wrote:On September 18 2015 20:18 marvellosity wrote:On September 18 2015 20:17 Palmar wrote:
if cephiro is mafia he is either being bussed or the only one remaining. who else wants to lynch ceph first? Idk, it seems like everyone is sort of fine with lynching him. weak reasoning, given the nature of confirmeds and unconfirmeds and stuff here. in addition there's 10 players alive, and at MOST 1 who can bus/defend cephiro, based on wile flipping mafia. I'm not saying I'm gonna defend him based on that. It's just an observation.
ya, and i'm pointing out the observation is dumb :p
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On September 18 2015 23:29 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 23:25 Palmar wrote:The reason I say that is jat keeps painting a picture where something that is arguable/marginal is much more than it is. For example this stuff with damdred now. Also the stuff I posted during the night: On September 17 2015 23:10 Palmar wrote:On September 17 2015 22:22 justanothertownie wrote:On September 17 2015 05:26 Damdred wrote:On September 17 2015 05:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And Wile is never going to be mafia ffs. Yo add onto this there's this moment that just happened. He was obviously catching up in thread and he had this ah ha moment when he thought he caught moosey. It just seemed so legitimate and honest and such a town reaction. Pretty sure rayns right on him. But I think we lynch jat Why the fuck did people sheep this retarded argument? Wile/SL wasn't even the first one pointing it out. A big chunk of this game was about that shit. Because it is not a retarded argument. Yes, people had already discussed that, but that doesn't make the argument invalid. The argument goes like this wile is reading thread wile reads something and goes "hey, fuck yeah I got this guy" wile reads on realizes that "oh wait, people already talked about it and it's been explained why it's not relevant" The idea is, wile is less likely to be mafia because he was 1) actually reading the thread 2) trying to find things that look off 3) excited when he thought he found something It's not really a complicated concept. It doesn't mean he's guaranteed to be town, but it means he's more likely to be town. On September 17 2015 22:22 justanothertownie wrote:On September 17 2015 06:02 Damdred wrote:
Jats the best lynch probably he doesn't care it seems pushed nothing all day.
See point 3). Blatant lie. Painting this as blatant lie is at best dumb and at worst scummy. He's not even stating a fact, he's stating an opinion. And I agree (although this post comes after you admittedly had started contributing more). I even said as much at least twice in the thread. On September 15 2015 18:57 Palmar wrote:
I feel like JAT has basically been a non-entity this game. Maybe I should tunnel him to see what happens. On September 16 2015 19:40 Palmar wrote:
JAT could also be mafia. I am actually serious that he could be. There's a lot of argumentative loud people in this game and there is plenty to stuff I talk about. I just get this overall feeling that he's always sort of in the background. Maybe I'm just ignoring his posts but whenever people are talking in the thread (for example this morning) it feels like he is offering way less to the discussion than everyone else who is talking. On September 17 2015 22:22 justanothertownie wrote:On September 17 2015 06:26 Palmar wrote:
Also his "I'm not gonna tell you how to live your life" post was gold. What was good about that? He clearly missed the point of the post entirely. That was more about the humor value of the post. It's another example of sort of the same thing. I cba going back to check now, but I posted about jat being background-y and he argued that one as well. It's the whole "slight misinterpretation" -> "blatant lie". "waffly read" - > "hard scumread" I did not argue being backgroundy for most of day1. I argued that it makes me mafia which it evidently doesn't. And the blatant lie was a blatant lie.
a blatant lie to you but apparently to noone else in the whole game
must be everyone else in the whole game
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On September 18 2015 23:38 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 23:31 marvellosity wrote:
you told me you didn't want any more photos Yes but this is for research not recreation. So it's probably worthwhile to send them. By probably, I mean send them.
encouraging us to break the rules of the game. tut.
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nice to watch others dick measuring.
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On September 18 2015 23:52 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 23:52 marvellosity wrote:
nice to watch others dick measuring. You are being so productive. That's nice to watch too.
i'm lynching mafia today, that's lots of productive right there.
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There was a boy called jat
and it's plain for everyone, even me
just from glancing at his dick
it only takes a second to click
there's really nothing to see
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On September 18 2015 23:58 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 23:55 marvellosity wrote:
There was a boy called jat
and it's plain for everyone, even me
just from glancing at his dick
it only takes a second to click
there's really nothing to see You won't fuel my anger like this :p
There was a boy called jat
away from him, everyone would flee
once look at his groin
his handsomely endowed loins
simply too big for me
for balance <3
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this lynch was actually best case scenario given my weekend plans. only just thought of that. nice
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On September 19 2015 00:29 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2015 00:27 justanothertownie wrote:On September 19 2015 00:26 Koshi wrote:
btw did we already discuss how I tricked mafia into thinking I was an important blue? I mean... Obv Koshi gets the RB. That sexy bastard.
The respect is real. Or maybe mafia just aren't idiots and since you are basically an innocent child but not nk worthy you are the obvious rb target. jat defends his decision
hahahaha
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On September 19 2015 05:33 Cephiro wrote:
We lynch Wile, simple as that. Also I'd prefer to stay as a mislynch target for now, so I'm going to stay that way.
You know I want to get marv lynched (tomorrow), that's more than enough for now. You'll get the reasoning in due time. I don't see why I should be around talking about irrelevant stuff meanwhile. First we deal with the matter at hand, and then we move onto the next thing on schedule. I've seen flailing about instead of going for the obvious thing that should be done more than I care to remember.
If you spent half your words making a case on me rather than talking about it life would be much better
Ps I'm not really here
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On September 19 2015 08:06 Koshi wrote:
Seriously. Choosing a lynch between JAT or marv is like choosing between sex with Katy Perry or Taylor Swift.
Can't I do both of both. Like seriously.
Sex with Katy Perry and Taylor Swift while lynching JAT and marv.
seriously.
pls?
Tomorrow?
can I?
pretty pls
Whould be a pretty good Sunday evening.
You may not.
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On September 19 2015 03:51 geript wrote:
I'm pretty sure there's like at least 1 mafia who voted for Wile today
Lol genius!
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Pretty fucked but was hoping for some posts to read
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hiyo. looong long weekend and only 2 hours sleep last night, so i'm gonna be a little slow today.
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those last 2 sentences don't go together very well ^^
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On September 21 2015 21:02 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 21:01 Palmar wrote:
if marv is mafia his #1 scumplay is to just shut up and not post. Can't tell if joking or not. Yes, if he sees no possibility of avoiding the lynch I can see him just shutting up.
Silly. Of course i can avoid the lynch. i've not started reading yet. i'm not sure you quite grasp my mental state right this moment :p
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On September 21 2015 21:05 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 21:04 marvellosity wrote:On September 21 2015 21:02 justanothertownie wrote:On September 21 2015 21:01 Palmar wrote:
if marv is mafia his #1 scumplay is to just shut up and not post. Can't tell if joking or not. Yes, if he sees no possibility of avoiding the lynch I can see him just shutting up. Silly. Of course i can avoid the lynch. i've not started reading yet. i'm not sure you quite grasp my mental state right this moment :p I'm not sure either.
imagine a marv who has slept for about 7 hours over the course of 3 nights, in the kitchen making a tuna sandwich this morning
marv opens the tin of tuna, puts it in a bowl.
marv stands there confused.
marv on autopilot goes and opens another tin of tuna, and goes to put it in the bowl and sees there is already tuna in there.
#win
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lol, I thought the lynch was today :D
i have fucking ages. I'll come at this at some point later when I can think a little.
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thanks for hosting.
thanks for carry.
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you looked townier than i've ever seen you ritoky
it was very annoying
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On September 29 2015 06:52 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 06:47 marvellosity wrote:
you looked townier than i've ever seen you ritoky
it was very annoying can I post the *sanitized* chatlogs?
sure
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