[M][N] Completely Normal Generic Mini Mafia

On September 03 2015 03:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:

So let's say rayn, wave and deconduo are mafia.
geript is watcher.

we decide to vote to kill marvellosity. me and wave deliver.
geript watches marvellosity.

did he just catch two mafia? seems pretty op to me....

On September 09 2015 22:33 disformation wrote:
Problem is that most of these things can be used for surveillance although it is not the primary or intended purpose.

On September 10 2015 18:49 justanothertownie wrote:

That's maybe not the most realistic example but if things like this get implemented I would be worried about insurances giving better conditions to people who let themselves be monitored for example. I guess this isn't a discussion meant for this thread though.

On September 10 2015 21:52 Onegu wrote:
You guys just got suckered into a game with onegu...

On September 14 2015 18:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv read me incorrectly once... almost.

On September 14 2015 23:38 Damdred wrote:
This might be the game marv reads me correctly instead of just ignores me boys

On September 15 2015 08:33 justanothertownie wrote:

Yo, people want to lynch you already.

On September 15 2015 07:13 Koshi wrote:

You magnificent bastard.
##unvote
##vote marv

On September 15 2015 07:16 Palmar wrote:

I have inside information that marv is probably away tonight.

On September 15 2015 08:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:
btw, rayn is scummy for assuming things about me. i think lynching him should be a fine start to this game.

On September 15 2015 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:

i am sorry i can't

On September 15 2015 09:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv i believe Palmar is town because he is not antagonizing me.

On September 15 2015 09:03 geript wrote:
Hi Marv you sexy beast you. Should I grab my whip?

On September 15 2015 07:45 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
so no one answered my question. I didnt care that much but it was a free town read and kind of a test

On September 15 2015 18:48 Palmar wrote:


Why not? I think I've been for the most part fairly helpful and sensible which should usually make me town.

On September 15 2015 18:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am gonna run to the grocery store really quick.
marv i hope you're here when i get back.

could you please give your opinion on geript when you have a chance to.

On September 15 2015 18:58 justanothertownie wrote:

I would ignore you unless I start to think you are mafia. But since you knew how it went last game doing this would already be a point in favor of you being mafia so there is that.

On September 15 2015 19:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi's town meta is being wrong and bad and being an asshole about it, so he's doing a good job.

On September 15 2015 08:23 justanothertownie wrote:

My point was that I do not see any strong reason to read those people one way or the other while for Koshi I do. I think Palmar, geript and you are all easily capable of doing what they have done so far as either alignment.

On September 15 2015 19:09 justanothertownie wrote:

Fine - I'll take your word. I have no problem with what rayn did so far anyways.

On September 15 2015 08:32 Damdred wrote:
Firstly I can back up most of my reads with some form of reasonable explanation even if people think they are bad to a point in pretty confident in the reads.

The geript scum read is interesting because he's acting oddly at this point. Usually when he's in a game with me he know he can read me rather well and has caught me as scum a couple times and can read me town generally well.

However he's not even waiting or trying to see if I can give some of my damdred town goodness that I am horrendous at faking. Instead he's content on disparaging my reads to a point and being content in saying he wants to lynch me.

He also is missing some of his normal flair which isn't really indicative

On September 15 2015 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I did exactly that and i was right, with attached drunkness dickishness by the end of D1.

On September 15 2015 10:23 geript wrote:
I'm pretty sure I want a blow job but not 100%. I might want something else.

On September 15 2015 14:36 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
If someone says I dont care if your mafia. im going to take notice and bring it up. Thats basically what he did and its unacceptable . I understand it can be rage but in that case we want to get him back to common sense

On September 15 2015 16:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No fuck actually Onegu is probably town for not having a read on me.

On September 15 2015 20:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Well, too slow marv. I just gave the same scumlist.

On September 15 2015 20:02 marvellosity wrote:
marv

geript
rayn
Koshi
(Damdred)

onegu
Cephiro
ritoky
Palmar
MoosyDoosy

warwaffle

Wile

jat

On September 15 2015 20:12 Koshi wrote:

Not bad. If this is serious.

On September 15 2015 20:13 justanothertownie wrote:

Thank you captain obvious.

On September 15 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not saying he should be a clean townread for you.
I am saying he should not be a scumread for you because he does things you think are more likely to come from town!geript than mafia!geript (unless you ofc prove where i am wrong, which you havent done).

On September 15 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:

well for me it isn't, because i can't understand how someone makes the posts geript did.
i also have no idea how jat comes to the conclusions he does. i also have no idea why he feels the need to "defend" geript or what the fuck ever he was doing if "it doesn't matter" in the end anyways?!?!?

On September 15 2015 20:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv is it normal for Palmar to not townread you here?

On September 15 2015 21:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
do you think my case on jat makes sense?

On September 15 2015 21:11 Wile E. Coyote wrote:


why is this difficult to believe? im not a beginner I do things to get reads and start conversations. Your thing is apparently to ask stupid questions. Its a great way to start off getting reads...



Wut? If its your first time playing with someone and they go im not playing to win for town why the hell cant I make a comment about it? this one comment is so overblown and I feel like your only mentioning it because others have and you want to fit in

On September 15 2015 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:

i know this is true.
like the gaiden game i went to read your filter (when we were trying to 5min-solve-the-game with Artanis on N1) and saw you had 19 pages, saw you did not lynch neither of palmar and jat and decided you all three have to be town.

well my vote is where it is atm because i feel this the strongest.

On September 15 2015 21:29 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
I dont give a shit about your meta. I wanted to see who was cooperative. Anyway I took my medicine back to bed.

can you explain why this is unacceptable? - I did answer this question in detail. Its not right to not care if someones mafia or wrong. Im going to call you out on shit like this thats the kind of person I am its admitting your not playing to win.

can you explain to me what "unacceptable" means exactly with regards to his alignment?
I dont know what this qeustion even means but ill try . I said he could say it as town but it is a scummy trait at level 1 not knowing the guy

On September 15 2015 21:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:

again that is a lie.

On September 15 2015 22:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:

i don't know yet. i am not entirely sure if it makes him mafia or not.
i would rather not discuss this.

i just want to point out lies when someone does it.

On September 15 2015 22:03 Palmar wrote:

yeah but you can't just point out lies and then go "but it's all top secret. you need clearance level 6 to access that information".

Like you've literally introduced more chaos into the game with this, because I believe you, or rather, I believe you believe what you're saying. And it's extremely frustrating I can't do anything with that information because top secret.

On September 15 2015 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am sorry i cannot lay out the reasoning and you should probably not think it's alignment indicative because that's Moosy we are talking about.

As i said i think what he does and how he presents his reads and what his reads are are the telling part on his alignment. I will tell you later on what i think of those.

On September 16 2015 00:12 geript wrote:
Here's what I know:
1. I'm sheeping Marv today.
2. Rayn is probably town. A few hesitations but eh.
3. I might be wrong on Damdred. After sleeping, I think I might just be really dumb with that read.
4. Moosey is town. What I've seen of his townplay is that Moosy is pretty all over the place in a pretty in effective way while still being rather confident in his reads. The only "questionable" thing so far is his Palmar read.
5. Still don't like Plammar.
Otherwise, fiik

On September 16 2015 00:30 Onegu wrote:



Does it matter?

On September 16 2015 00:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also, back off on this shit between me and rayn and VT/Mafia history. Like it's something that I understand from him and I'm sure he understands me understanding him about our mutual understanding. Either way that stuff is irrelevant.

On September 16 2015 01:18 geript wrote:

Thinking Marv is town doesn't make you anything... dear. Quite frankly, you haven't done #raynstuffz yet.

On September 16 2015 01:18 geript wrote:

Thinking Marv is town doesn't make you anything... dear. Quite frankly, you haven't done #raynstuffz yet.

On September 16 2015 01:35 geript wrote:
Because I read rayn based on a variety of things. It's less than thought process; there's like a bounciness to his reads. And usually, I'm able to read him off the bounce. Like the switch between progressions and thoughts is generally the important thing.

On September 16 2015 02:13 Koshi wrote:

Bolded is the only thing that might make him mafia. And I should have to believe you because I don't see it myself.

all the other things are simply not making him mafia. They are just random events that town or mafia could do. Seriously, traps are townie, rarely a mafia does it. And most "traps" are shit, and almost always the trapmaker feels like he needs to point out what a genius he was and that others "ruined" it. I can find examples. Like the one game rayn brought up, with Eden and geript and cephiro. It was dumb. cephiro claimed it was genius. geript wanted to lynch him for it. Dumb shit.


I don't even know why sheeping a post on geript is something mafia would do.

I also don't understand why a new player wouldn't or shouldn't antagonize this marv at the moment he did. Or a cocky town player couldn't do it.


No seriously. I don't get any point in this list.

On September 16 2015 04:12 Palmar wrote:
Mental note that it's slightly concerning marv thinks geript's arguments are valid.

On September 16 2015 18:37 Palmar wrote:

Geript is arguing that I am mafia.

I am not mafia.

You seem to think it's a possibility I am mafia, which is very uncharacteristic for you.

On September 16 2015 18:51 Palmar wrote:
wait what marv?



This is just blatantly false. Your statement about what you said is not true. Here's the post where you "agree" with geript:



I bolded the part that came just a few posts after geript posted something about me.

SINCE you wrote that post you have written exactly 8 posts, none of which elaborate or talk more about how or what you liked about geript's post on me.

So no, you did not very clearly state that you understood but disagreed, and you did not say it multiple times.

On September 16 2015 01:31 marvellosity wrote:

it's the other way round.

ok, i think i can let the whole weird timing thing go. Your more longwinded explanation above meshes with what i said in my last post about your read, ergo it's not bullshitty, i can understand why you're thinking what you're thinking.

he really has done #raynstuffz though. why don't you think so?

On September 16 2015 00:28 marvellosity wrote:

Clear this up for me. How did you write that he was taking things seriously when you admitted that only came after your post?

Like I literally want to know what moved you to write those words at that specific time.

The thing is, I actually do understand what you're saying about Palmar and why you're saying it (although atm i don't find it significant like you), the read itself isn't nonsense, just the timings of how it played out.

what gives?

On September 16 2015 19:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv, Palmar actually has a point here.

On September 16 2015 19:03 Palmar wrote:
yeah but all that was written before geript wrote the point that prompted you to say you liked it.

On September 16 2015 19:03 Palmar wrote:
yeah but all that was written before geript wrote the point that prompted you to say you liked it.

On September 16 2015 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I really really like ritoky in this game.

On September 16 2015 19:13 Palmar wrote:

ok I went back and checked, yes he did lay out his points earlier.

On September 16 2015 19:14 Palmar wrote:

I don't, he counted "calling Koshi dumb" as a point against someone, whereas I think calling koshi dumb is a fantastic use of your time.

On September 16 2015 08:06 Onegu wrote:
Still think Koshi is town, but find it really weird that he dropped his scum reads on me and ceph for like no reason.

Also I couldn't care less, Sounds much better than I could care less.

#FuckGrammer.

On September 16 2015 19:18 Palmar wrote:
I haven't even read rayn's case on moosy.

Also I can't even remember cephiro posting after a strong start so he is getting a downgrade.

On September 16 2015 08:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:

You never ever ever ever ever make this post as town.
You just do not do it.
No. no. no. NO!

On August 27 2015 07:22 marvellosity wrote:

oh i like this thought

On September 16 2015 19:29 Palmar wrote:
I kinda wanna lynch Onegu.

On September 16 2015 10:29 TheWarWaffle wrote:
Sorry about the lack of posts but your massive circle jerk (that I wasn't invited to btw) made me want to sit back and wait for some substance before making any reads. The fact that I've only played with geript and Damdred before have also contributed to this. I looked at all the filters individually since I don't know the meta of any players here (besides a vague outline I've drawn through observation of this game). This is my current standing on each of you:

MoosyDoosy: Very poor posting quality. Many one liners that distract or lead into other topics. Nothing of substance or insight to be gleaned from his whole filter. Probable mafia.

Damdred: Damdred is Damdred. Pretty sure he's town, filter doesn't have anything against him. A couple of people have targeted him based off meta reads, though.

geript: In Student Mafia V he singlehandedly got me lynched. No hard feelings. He was town in that game (and he even had an excuse to post infrequently too); his actions in this game have in no way, shape, or form followed this supposed typical gerpit behaviour. Highly suspicious.

justanothertownie: Has a bunch of posts but most of it is filler. Dragged the "did I/did I not townread geript" conversation string on for longer than it should have. This post feels like he's saying "I may not be town, but I'm definitely not mafia."

Koshi: Spams a lot but apparently it is always this way with him. Is aggressively (and confidently) pushing justanothertownie for mafia. Pretty sure he's town.

raynpelikoneet: Pretty up front with his willingness to vote for pressure. Is heavily leaning towards MoosyDoosy and justanothertownie. Strangely hard townread MoosyDoosy up until the point where he was afk for a while then switched his vote to Moosy, promised to not move it, and was so sure of it that he said "If MoosyDoosy flips town in this game i am mafia and you should lynch me, that's how sure i am." This feels like a bus to me. If all other suspicious leads go awry, rayn should be looked at. Currently reading town, however.

Wile E. Coyote: Weak posts. Nothing seems to jump out whatsoever. Feels like somebody trying to slide by under the radar. Null/suspicious.

Cephiro: Well constructed posts... if he's ever around. Raised suspicion on Damdred, told Moosy to stop talking about Crime and Punishment, and then disappeared. Odd. He mentioned returning midway through the cycle but has yet to make a reappearance. Null.

Onegu: Possesses a strange knack for seeming like he's around when he's not. Really nothing to go by in his filter. Null/suspicious.

ritoky: Calls out the suspicious people for acting suspicious. Appears to have reasonable reads. Town most likely.

Palmar: Appears to be town. Sheeps raynpelikoneet and assures us that he is for sure town based on the way he is playing. Is suspicious of MoosyDoosy but doesn't want to lynch him for reasons unknown. Wants to lynch marvellosity instead.

marvellosity: idk. Could be either alignment. He is a good player; that puts a target on his head regardless.

On September 16 2015 18:12 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Me thinking moosy is scummy is nothing new its in the thread. My top town also agreed at about the same time as me.

And yes math is very important on day 1 lynches. You hit mafia way less on day 1. So voting someone whos probably not a power role and the most likely to me to flip mafia is the easiest vote of my life

On September 16 2015 18:31 ritoky wrote:
i think what rayn is trying to say is that moosy was trying to use specific plays and characteristics of JAT in a specific game to give him a town read when he couldn't even remember the general information of the game (who was playing) especially considering it was recent. It makes the read feel like bullshit cuz he is trying to make a meta argument when it is kinda clear he didn't do basic research on it or remember it fully accurately. makes the read in the very least hard to trust.

i kinda understand the thought behind moosy's read but not necessarily his justification or source. cuz there is a point for most players if you're mafia day 1 about to get lynched where you have to switch to pandering/defense/buying votes mode and out of obstinate antagonistic dick mode. jat didn't switch out of being obstinate when under legitimate lynch pressure which trends slightly toward town, but i doubt it is outside of his capabilities as mafia so it really isn't an indicator in the slightest.

On September 16 2015 20:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Or the ritoky vs damdred thing. Considering their claimed accuracy of reading each other that should be interesting too.

On September 16 2015 20:11 justanothertownie wrote:

The question is WHY do you not want to touch damdred? Because you have been wrong on him before? Doesn't make any sense. You even said I could be mafia and if there is any player in the game you wouldn't talk about it is me.

On September 16 2015 20:16 justanothertownie wrote:
If you really like ritoky this game damdred should be in your lynchpool.

On September 16 2015 20:19 justanothertownie wrote:

Sure, but this isn't werewolf. There is no townie with extra information on day1 and cop checks aren't 100 % trustworthy.

On September 16 2015 20:21 justanothertownie wrote:

No, I can't since I am not reading you town so far.

On September 16 2015 20:22 Koshi wrote:
wow. JAT, if you want an ally annoying marv I am here for you.

On September 16 2015 20:31 justanothertownie wrote:

To explain:

If marv was town here I would expect him to tell me I am being weird for scumreading him or something like that. Or telling me I know he is town. I would definitely not expect him to make this post and subsequently flee the thread.

On September 16 2015 20:38 justanothertownie wrote:
I just saw Onegu has his vote already on marv. I guess I'll never be cool

##Vote: Marvellosity

On September 16 2015 20:42 justanothertownie wrote:

This could be your chance to lynch imperial marv day1 though.

On September 16 2015 20:45 justanothertownie wrote:

Is it not?

You are just saying this because agreeing would be playing against your wincon so you have to hide your approval in an "if" sentence.

On September 16 2015 20:51 justanothertownie wrote:

How is it convenient for me to attack the only "townleader" who is not calling me mafia? How is it convenient to attack someone who is never going to be mislynched? It isn't.

And while for me "not being towny" is no scumtell for you it certainly is.

On September 16 2015 20:54 justanothertownie wrote:

You unvoted me because I busted my ass off for hours and hours which I could have done as either alignment. Had I not done that like I originally said you wouldn't have unvoted and I would have still been town.

On September 16 2015 20:51 justanothertownie wrote:

How is it convenient for me to attack the only "townleader" who is not calling me mafia? How is it convenient to attack someone who is never going to be mislynched? It isn't.

And while for me "not being towny" is no scumtell for you it certainly is.

On September 16 2015 20:53 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
That post is soooooooooooooooo scummmmmmyyy

On September 16 2015 21:04 Wile E. Coyote wrote:


lol he yelled at me explaining my reads and basically said im a tryhard. This acualy happened

On September 16 2015 21:04 justanothertownie wrote:

Except for townmarv burying the shit out of me.

On September 16 2015 21:12 geript wrote:

Trying to make me jelly?

On September 16 2015 21:41 justanothertownie wrote:

If you want to help me you could just start being your usual towny self and find some mafia so I can sheep you. Or you can keep calling me mafia for scumreading me but that probably won't change my vote since it is too late now. You already reacted poorly and you can't clear it up by OMGUSing me now that I called you mafia for that.

On September 16 2015 22:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Certain things Moosy has said in this game doesn't make any sense fro mtown perspective. He is acting overly cocky when he knows some people will figure out what he says is dumb and he believes he gets townread for it.

It's like what GlowingBear does.

On September 16 2015 22:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Actually, when I am Mafia, I do try and replicate my town game as much as possible. Also, this is not my second game. It's my ...6th game? 5th game? Not too sure.

Like just lynch me lol. I'd love to see rayn face palm and shit all over the thread and blame it all on me saying it's my fault I made no sense.

On September 16 2015 22:16 Damdred wrote:
Yeah I'm just not going to play until deadline was told to shut up by the great rayn.

Marvs right about waffle though

On September 16 2015 22:16 marvellosity wrote:

you said you never rolled mafia before?!?!

omg don't make me go on to this agian

On September 16 2015 22:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:

:D That's an understanding between me and rayn. I think it's quite touching because I think he's perceiving me as a threat based on our understanding and is scared of me. ho hum.

On September 16 2015 23:22 Koshi wrote:
rayn already told us he 100% certain played as mafia before..........................................................................

On September 16 2015 23:28 geript wrote:
@Marv. I'll explain as basically as possible. Rayn was in the newbie game (died n2) with moosy. I am a coach in that game. Rayn thought moosy was mafia when RAYN died. Moosy is still alive in that game and game is still going on. Hence the no talky thing about it. I'm pretty sure Rayn is wrong here on moosy. But in my passing reading am continuing to waffle on Rayn and Damdred.

On September 16 2015 23:34 geript wrote:
I can take a few guesses but it involves revealing into one way or another regarding the other game. Plus I think fido is in that game too.

I'm busy but I have a tin foil reason to think Rayn mightbbe mafia in coordination w/ how he's pushing stuff. Can you take a second look at Rayn plz.

On September 16 2015 23:34 geript wrote:
I can take a few guesses but it involves revealing into one way or another regarding the other game. Plus I think fido is in that game too.

On September 16 2015 23:46 justanothertownie wrote:

You were wrong in russia today. You constantly called him town there when I brought him up.

On September 16 2015 23:51 justanothertownie wrote:

In my case you should maybe start doing it if you keep being wrong about me.

On September 17 2015 00:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:

You asked marv to reread me. Why would you ask that if you think i am town (as he does)?

On September 17 2015 00:11 Palmar wrote:
I know it's terrible but somehow geript offering a hint of an explanation of the moosy/rayn thing (I had thought about it being from another game, but I also forgot there were any other games going than this one and season of the witch) makes me kinda think he's less likely mafia.

It's not really that he said it, but rather the genuine "I'm going to try to help" tone he did it with.

On September 17 2015 00:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:

I don't want to get banned lol.

On September 17 2015 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:
And marv should definitely be a townread by now :/

On September 17 2015 00:17 MoosyDoosy wrote:

I actually did so that my alignment wouldn't be known.

On September 17 2015 00:25 justanothertownie wrote:

What happened to me being mafia? Oo

On September 17 2015 00:42 Palmar wrote:

sass

I don't think I want to lynch Moosy, I kinda think I actually stand by my earlier do not lynch list aside from maybe Cephiro.

marv, why are we killing cephiro?

On September 17 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:

I'm curious as to Palmar's question as well actually.

On September 17 2015 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:

If you had played video mafia you would.
Like they do shit like robik's smiley reads and dumb stuff like that.
It's never going to be a reason to scumread Wile.

On September 17 2015 00:54 Palmar wrote:

I have already explained why damdred should (level 1) be townread.

I think that's more than good enough for today.

On September 17 2015 00:59 Palmar wrote:

One of the things that makes me want to kill you every fucking game is your refusal to rehash your reasons knowing full well your filter is long and almost entirely useless.

Like I'd ask you to rehash your reasons but I know you're just gonna be an ass about it

On September 17 2015 01:07 geript wrote:
You can blame this on me and my business I'm sure isn't helping, but I really think at least 1 of the vet circle is mafia. I'm not mafia, and I don't think Palmer makes that read as mafia. I'm pretty sure Marv is town.

You can blame me afterwards if I'm wrong. Idc. But I'm really struggling to townread the people I usually have an easy time reading (Rayn/Damdred). IDc about JAT or Koshi as idk how to read them and cba to think about it currently.

But I'm really sure moosy/Tww are both town. I hopefully will be home ~1.5 hr prior to lynch but no promises as if we go long I'll be stck on phone. But please take a look at your reads on each other (I will too when I get back) because I think this lynch is spinning wrong and I can't figure out why I think that.

On September 17 2015 01:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Cephiro is mafia because when he is town he tries to find mafia, when he is mafia he is more interested in arguing why he isn't mafia and reading obvious townies town.

On September 17 2015 01:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:

If you read the SMB game Koshi posted a while ago the difference is huge. I know he occasionally makes posts like he has here as town, but when all of his posts are like that (remember Noir?) then he is scum.

Anyways he should be back later, at least he said he has some errands to run, then mafia, when i asked him to come play heroes earlier.

On September 17 2015 01:21 Cephiro wrote:
Alright, I'm currently re-reading the thread as I eat before posting any further thoughts.

However, I'd like to address the hilarity of some people before I do.
I find it quite sad that people are considering me mafia when my content has not changed at all, the only difference is my level of activity. As in, it's extremely funny to read these posts considering me as mafia from the people that leaned town on me, without any further reasoning. That's wishy-washy if I've ever seen it. If they at least based their reasoning on process of elimination, as in what others have brought to the table, I could understand it, but they haven't. So basically the only real reasoning they have to push me as mafia is 1) My level of activity & 2) Because it fits their agenda better

If you ask me, both are fairly bullshit reasons. As for those that are currently voting me as pressure for me to make content, that's fairly pointless. I play and post when I have the time to do so with nothing else taking the priority over mafia. I couldn't care less if people vote for me because I haven't said something in a while or not. The only reason anyone should be voting for me is if they truly think I'm mafia.

At least a few people have pointed out something small such as an "inconsistency" between me telling people to banter about, and then "overreacting and being serious" when I get told I'm mafia for nothing. And well, if some people honestly think that makes a person mafia, then by all means do vote for me, and additionally make yourself look like an idiot.

If you push me, push me for real reasons instead of marginal bullshit you have to pretty much make up to have something to go at me.

A sidenote for the "meta" thing I've never enjoyed: I can't believe some people are seriously even mentioning anything that I've done in games from 2 years back. It's like saying "I played rock-paper-scissors with this random guy years ago and he picked scissors. Now I met him again and we decided to play it again, I'm sure he's going to pick scissors again." Like are you even for real? How stupid is that.

But yeah, that'll be it until I'm done re-reading.

On September 17 2015 01:33 geript wrote:

Plz marv. Plz just trust me on this read. I tried to in part kinda bs a read on him to explain it slightly. But tbh part of what I've seen of his townplay is an early similarity to how I played town early. Over importance and confidence in his reads/worth to town. That's something that, like Prome said about me once, I think he would have a hard time replicating as scum.

On September 17 2015 01:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
If no one is willing to entertain a Coyote lynch I guess I might switch to Cephiro as promised.

On September 17 2015 06:20 ritoky wrote:


lynch moosy, lynch jat, shennanie onto onegu who no1 has a read on

that's pretty much the current state of the thread. with geript being a distant option.

On September 17 2015 06:22 Damdred wrote:


yes he did something I think was super towny

On September 17 2015 06:25 Damdred wrote:


He was doing catch up posts where he was commenting as he was coming.

And he came to a moosey post and it felt like a ah ha moment where it felt like he had caught moosey in something then mildly dissapointed that others had picked up on it.

It just felt super towny

On September 17 2015 06:41 Palmar wrote:
rayn confirmed day cop.

Also people should never, ever, ever lynch my leaning town reads.

You're all bad.

On September 17 2015 06:41 Palmar wrote:

your vote was late but whatever.

Why did you vote moosy with your late vote?

On September 17 2015 06:43 Palmar wrote:

meehhh~~~

Consider the waffle engaged.

On September 17 2015 06:44 Palmar wrote:
Like there is a goddamn countdown in his vote count posts.

although tbh that'd be a strange thing to lie about.

On September 17 2015 06:45 Damdred wrote:
Nobody likes sheeping me. IDK why I'm never sheepable

On September 17 2015 06:45 marvellosity wrote:

exceptionally strange, and i think even you can agree i don't like about exceptionally strange things

On September 17 2015 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am demotivated rn.
I'll do one of the two things;
1) i'll reread the thread and post before i go to the harbor tomorrow
2) I'll post into my mason QT later and tell my mason partner who is not mafia btw to post in the thread on D2 in case i die. I'll also make sure marv knows who my mason partner is in case i am horribly wrong on them.

On September 17 2015 06:47 Palmar wrote:


No not in that post.

If you're mafia it's not for that post specifically. If you're mafia it's because you had no idea what to do today, because you were wrong on moosy (yes you get more scum points than others for being wrong) and because you sheeped something you barely believed in.

On September 15 2015 10:27 Damdred wrote:
Koshi is really town here like id be impressed if this is scum game koshi.

Geript has a few posts that give me a small amount of pause that he could potentially be town like his moosey read is something that he would do when he's town. But he just is lacking some form of curiosity he might has here.

That being said that one read on moosey really has me doubting my scum read currently. It just looks so towny of him to do.

The more I think about it the more I want to town read him and I defdinately don't want to lynch him now...

On September 17 2015 18:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Hmmm okat that makes sense rofl.

On September 17 2015 18:58 justanothertownie wrote:
Like, am I missing something or why do you tie him to geript? Unlike rayn I am not convinced geript is mafia. But I also didn't catch up yet.

On September 17 2015 18:57 justanothertownie wrote:

I am not really seeing what you see in that post. You can call it "natural" or you can call it a wishy washy, inconclusive pile of words.

On September 17 2015 19:12 geript wrote:

And when Damdred is town and I'm town and Rayn is mafia?

On September 17 2015 19:26 geript wrote:

I'm pretty sure I explained how he pushed on things that didn't make Moosy anything. Like go back through. Where is there a single damn thing that moosy did that Rayn pushes him for that makes him mafia?
You're telling me, no he's town and here's what he does as scum. Yet I pretty specifically outlined what he did and it aligns with your scumread of him??????? Wtf

On September 17 2015 19:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:

No. He is almost definitely town.

On September 17 2015 19:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Is palmar town here?
Like for sure.

I know i am 99% sure of him being town but i am a sucker for gim townreading me for right reasons for reasons... you know why.

On September 17 2015 20:04 Palmar wrote:

and yet you voted for it.

On September 17 2015 20:06 justanothertownie wrote:

You 2 could have just lynched Cephiro instead. Just saying.

On September 17 2015 20:08 Wile E. Coyote wrote:


yes you did. or at the very least you said you dont want to lynch me.

why would you bring this theory up at night I could get nked but not if you shit on me

On September 17 2015 20:11 justanothertownie wrote:

Do you need any more proof that this is SL? ^^

On September 17 2015 20:20 Palmar wrote:
I have no idea btw why the read on him would go 180 based on nothing but his identity. I sort of understand why rayn would think it does (rayn has stronger opinions than your average jihadist), but I don't like the fact that people seem to be eating that stuff up.

marv you said "he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt". No benefit was given to him. The damdred point was about the genuine-ness of his reactions to reading the thread. There was no benefit of the doubt involved.

I'm going to try to get opinions out into the thread throughout today.

On September 17 2015 20:20 geript wrote:

1 is true and he's literally to dumb to realize 2 will never happen. Like NKing SL is like bussing a mafia partner. He could be claimed cop with a red check and it's literally more worthwhile to keep SL around as mafia than NK him.

On September 17 2015 23:35 Damdred wrote:
Palmar defends me... That touches me right here *oats chest*.

First things first there was 0 reason really to town read jat d1 and a decent amount of reasons to kill him. He might say things I've sad are blatant lies but even if he is town he's the most biased person in the thread in that regard and I'm not lying.

Secondly I might be wrong but I haven't been spectacularly wrong this game most my reads have been pretty good.

Most of the things jats pulling against me is pretty nai.

Also I've talked a lot about geript for a few reasons
1) I'm generally good at reading geript
2) he was a point of contention for a lot of the early thread
3) when I was talking about other things near eod rayn kept asking me about geript up to a point.