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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 22 2015 18:25 GMT
#2669
i am awake and it appears marv still doesn't care...
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 22 2015 18:27 GMT
#2670
On September 22 2015 19:46 Cephiro wrote:
I'm around now and I'm on pace with the thread, just going to re-read filters and take my time doing so before I post anything of substance. After that I'll stick around for a short moment only. I'm not sure if I can be around during the lynch deadline today, but I'll try to be available. If I'm not able to be around then, I'll be online some hours before the deadline to place my vote. Unless something surprising that I missed before comes up with my filter re-reads, I'm still very keen on voting marv today.


can't even with this kinda shit. you've been taking your time for 5 days now time for you to just info dump and stop wasting space.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 22 2015 18:50 GMT
#2677
On September 23 2015 03:48 Damdred wrote:
Honestly that post is bad has no real conclusions besides all of us could be mafia, I mean there's reasons I think to read jat, geript and palmar town. I also think I have reasons to be read town.

I just hate that post meh


pretty much this. there's towny being unsure and then there's that post.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 22 2015 18:52 GMT
#2678
i also am not particularly fond of cephiro poo pooing the activity argument constantly. sorry but you're not actively trying to lead town anywhere since day 1. so yes activity based scum reads are valid on you. if you don't like it then change your activity level and shove the thread in a direction. you're kinda lucky i had such a town read on you going into this phase because you've been wildly underwhelming.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 22 2015 19:07 GMT
#2686
On September 23 2015 03:59 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 03:52 ritoky wrote:
i also am not particularly fond of cephiro poo pooing the activity argument constantly. sorry but you're not actively trying to lead town anywhere since day 1. so yes activity based scum reads are valid on you. if you don't like it then change your activity level and shove the thread in a direction. you're kinda lucky i had such a town read on you going into this phase because you've been wildly underwhelming.


Right, because everyone can be a town leader, right? Let's all measure our penises during the night cycle so the ones that live on D4 can follow their leader with the mightiest organ instead of everyone trying to be a town leader.

How much I post is completely irrelevant regarding if I'm scum or not. I can be the most active player in the thread as both scum and town. I can be the least active player in the thread both as scum and town.

As I said before, if you scumread me, do it for valid reasons instead of the bullshit some of you are making up.
Or am I scum because I didn't come flaunt my massive anaconda that has my feelings written all over it to your face during D2 when we had better things to do, like finish lynching the self-claimed scum?

Not going to argue this point further, I believe I've made myself clear enough.


Yes you should post your thoughts during the time when you're lynching confirmed scum? Is it even a question?

I explained this before but it seems it didn't penetrate. When Wile flips scum, unless there is some elaborate bus there are 3 confirmed town. If there is an elaborate bus then there is still 1 confirmed town. Which is to say there is 0 threat of you dying in the night. If you're town and there's 0 threat of death, that is when you go ham and unload.

And I feel you don't grasp activity reads. Just know they are valid, people won't stop using them on you, and if you're town it is your job to stave them off rather than just being a dismissive ponce about it. You won't have me giving you an overwhelming town read at the start of the day next cycle to defend you next time.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 22 2015 19:08 GMT
#2688
On September 23 2015 04:06 scott31337 wrote:
It's better to talk about it now before your confirmed townies are still around when you know what their agenda is, not "ez lynch sheep zzzzz see you in 3 days"


this too.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 22 2015 21:49 GMT
#2734
On September 23 2015 06:32 Palmar wrote:
Basically, we have a roleblocker and a goon dead, and night 1 there were no flips (this also, obviously, means Onegu was not mafia).

This means the remaining mafia must be janitor, so damdred cannot be godfather.


^ damdred conf town. rip my read this game.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 22 2015 21:50 GMT
#2735
no wait...damdred not conf town? marv could have gone to kill. nvm. am dumb.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 22 2015 21:54 GMT
#2737
On September 23 2015 06:31 Damdred wrote:
Then make a case and don't ask down a list.

Ceph looks the worst out of the unconfirmed,group


disagree with this. i remember earlier pointing out how unlikely a ceph + marv team was. cuz i kept trying to clear cephiro for at least a day and marv was relentless calling my reason shit and refusing to let it happen. something about "LHF are LHF for a reason, cuz they're probably mafia"

i really hate how cephiro plays, and it pisses me off, but i don't think he is the most mafia of people remaining. esp with marv being mafia and me listening to myself from earlier.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 22 2015 21:55 GMT
#2738
On September 23 2015 06:45 justanothertownie wrote:
Poor ritoky has to keep on playing. Noone else than scott will get shot unless mafia really just wants to troll us.


don't remind me lol....sux i mis-shot onegu. but at least it got rid of a potentially easy ML target for the mafia this game.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 22 2015 21:59 GMT
#2741
as far as i am concerned, whoever didn't kill scott last night wasn't reading the thread very carefully. cuz quite frankly i was around 80% sure he was lying about his uses. jat came out with a similar sentiment immediately post-flip, which is why i currently have had town-feels about him (plus effort). damdred was at least moderately engaged that cycle.

palmar, cephiro, and geript were not.

i don't think cephiro is likely with marv from previous stuff i typed even if his recent posts are garbo. which kinda puts me at geript or palmar.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 22 2015 22:02 GMT
#2742
and that matters more now since the "didn't have gf so didn't care about killing scott" argument is off the table.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 22 2015 22:02 GMT
#2743
erm: had gf so didn't care*
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 22 2015 22:04 GMT
#2744
didn't someone post something about if marv is mafia and not alone he HAS to be with palmar? you should post that case tonight. thanx
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 22 2015 22:10 GMT
#2748
On September 23 2015 06:32 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 04:26 Damdred wrote:
And all you do is try to deflect and blame the rest of the town or give many big opinions or show why your top scum read is your top read.


Pushed and voted Wile D1 until I swapped at the end because people weren't getting on him.

Been telling you marv is scum since game started.

GET FUCKED.

Think I'm just gonna idle the night with my no substance.

Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 04:26 Damdred wrote:
I just don't get it, your posts haven't had substance at all.


NOPE. BYE.


Your previous posts have been highly inconclusive. Marv was mafia, no world of 1. I don't care about content, just give me a name of most likely mafia before the end of the night and I will be satisfied with your contribution. 1 word ain't that fucking hard.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 22 2015 22:11 GMT
#2750
On September 23 2015 07:08 Damdred wrote:
Here's something I'm thinking.

Its tinfoil though but halfway plausible.

First the proposed setup this game is
Masons(rayn and koshi)
Tracker (scott)
Unaware Miller_(moosey)
Vigilante (ritoky)

Vs
Goon(marv)
Rb(wile)
Janitor(?)

This is an insanely imbalanced set up for town. Its true if janitor hits like,he did and blocks out the big information shot its a slight win for,mafia.

It just seems like a lot of blues for a thirteen person game vs a relatively weak mafia team that can't even negate the tracker and doesn't care about killing him.

Part of me wants to say that sl/wile and Scott devised this plan in qt for ultimate town cred. Obviously if he's town Scott has to die


Feel free to consider that in LYLO if you're there (I sure as fuck won't be). Considering scott as mafia isn't really on the table until then unless you got something more than feels.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 22 2015 22:36 GMT
#2756
On September 23 2015 07:24 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 07:10 ritoky wrote:
Your previous posts have been highly inconclusive.


Doesn't post much, sticking to conclusive stuff. -> Ceph is mafia because he is not active. (Because waving the dick around and talking about irrelevant shit has to happen D2 when there's a self-claimed scum up for lynch)

Posts more when asked, also telling about his unsure opinions -> Wow you wishy-washy fuck, so inconclusive and useless.

What the fuck does this town want? Also I'm not dying tonight anyway, why should I need to be posting during the night-time? Might as well just wait for the flip (which should be obvious, but you never know), and talk after. Also gives me more time to be "conclusive" like you want.

Like honestly, you can't deny my votes and reads have been on point. If you dislike me not waving my dick and spamming irrelevant shit when it's not needed, that's your issue.

Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 07:15 Damdred wrote:
Imo Scott alive after tonight is horrid and at lylo is basically a scum,claim.

Scott has to follow Geript or cerph tonight, no matter what imo it clears huge pieces of the puzzles.


A track on me would be stupid as fuck, it should be fairly obvious by this point that I'm town. Re:

+ Show Spoiler +
On September 23 2015 02:53 Cephiro wrote:
As wifom, I really don't understand how someone could imagine a marv/Ceph scumteam at this point. I mean I like to make big plays, but I'm not a fan of retarded plays (well, except when I'm town and get an idea that I believe is genius when it clearly isn't). If I was scum with my marv, why on earth would you assume I'd have bussed both my scumbuddies since the start of the game? Sure, it's well within my reach to do so, but even I'm not stupid enough to think that I'd come out on top of a 1v5+1 (one confirmed town, ritoky) starting N3. Especially as if you assume both me and marv to be scum, that would mean scott is confirmed town also. Which would mean I'd go into a 1v4+1conftown situation on D4. I'm sure I could get at least one mislynch even at that point if I was mafia, but two when the town has the option of no-lynching on D5 to make it a D6 1v2? Yeah, just no. Not with how much presence I've had in the game so far. I can also assure you that I'd never have approved of a Koshi kill if I was scum. I would've just gone for the actually confirmed town and discredited koshi, given roleblocking into mafia team itself is something I've done several times in the past. Marv may have easily left pursuing my lynch near the deadline, but he did just as much so with Wile. Do you really think marv would've started off with a scum/scum bus only to waffle himself on a town mislynch? Just no.

Feel free to point out reasons you disagree, but trying to think of it from a neutral PoV, I honestly can't see how someone would ever think me+marv is a possible scumteam at this point. In theory sure, in practice no.

I don't mind if a townie genuinely misreads me as scum for valid reasons, people make mistakes all the time. But when the reasoning is absolute crap and spells "Opportunistic and far-fetched" all over it, you'll have to wonder if that's a case coming from a town player or a scum player.


Not that he should live through the night anyway.


You do realize I have been the literal only person in the game almost perpetually town shielding you and probably the primary reason you haven't been seriously considered on the lynch table right? You understand that correct?

I made it very clear what i wanted. 1 word.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 22 2015 22:46 GMT
#2761
On September 23 2015 07:38 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 07:36 ritoky wrote:
You do realize I have been the literal only person in the game almost perpetually town shielding you and probably the primary reason you haven't been seriously considered on the lynch table right? You understand that correct?

I made it very clear what i wanted. 1 word.


I'll also make it clear.

You're not the reason I'm alive. You're not a guardian of mine, I don't give a shit about anything you demand. If you want to co-operate, sure, I'm up for that. If you're going to be a dick and try to pretend being my savior, no. I don't care. Then I'll just ignore you and post what I want when I want.


What is there to co-operate with, you've been stand-offish and dismissive toward everyone; the moment someone considers you might be mafia you make 0 effort to understand or argue against it and call them and their reasons shit. Your posts don't have clear direction of where you want to go this game and the justifications tend to be lacking at best. I have spent the majority of the time you've been in the thread attempting to get you to participate in a meaningful way that will allow other players to get a proper read on you and you've just been having none of it. You've wanted to stall for ungodly amounts of time for no justified reason. You've actively refused to give reads or state a definitive target. You've treated pretty much everyone who interacts with you with venom. And quite frankly if you're town been an atrocious teammate. And yes if you didn't have confirmed town shielding you for so long you would be in a lot of trouble.

Feel free to ignore my posts, they probably won't be here for but 23 more hours; but don't think your play justifies your holier than thou attitude; regardless of your alignment.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 22 2015 23:01 GMT
#2767
going to go to work in a bit

self-goal: traverse palmar and geript's filters.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 23 2015 19:15 GMT
#2792
yo. if i die, never lynch scott. even in lylo. i think scott is a decent enough town player, but i don't think this level of bus is in his scum range. consider the following:

1) he subbed into the game and very quickly claimed and has been the recipient of 0 blue CCs of any sort since then when mafia had 2 PRs. no1 had an onegu PR read either, so that's pretty unlikely.

2) he would have had to have literally killed both his teammates in cold blood. you can say what you want about wile was gonna be likely lynched that phase anywayz and marv did it to himself. but scott straight up killed wile. like put him in the dirt with his claim. then in the night phase immediately following when i was giving reads on the game and basically said i had none on marv, he pushed me to read marv, told me why marv is scum, then said he plans to lynch marv. you're telling me scott subs into the game and him and his team decide: okay step 1) fake claim and get your first partner killed step 2) bury your other partner. not buying what you're selling.

3) scott fake claims his number of checks. this is the one i think is really outside of his scum range. he comes into the thread and claims a single use; he then reveals later that he had more checks. if scott was fake claiming this game it wouldn't be that elaborate. fake claims are all about being precise and not messing up the info. making sure everything is in line and there are no holes. not "lulz, i lied about # of checks guys, btw damdred didn't do nothing".

scott is not mafia ever. if i die, don't consider lynching him even in lylo. someone pushing for his lynch in lylo after reading this is dumb enough to probably be mafia. seriously go look at the night phase interactions between him and me after wile is lynched. there's no way he is on a team with wile and marv EVER.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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