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love you rsoultin. | ||
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And yeah I found it. I am caught up now. | ||
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On September 05 2015 08:29 MoosyDoosy wrote: i like how rayn immediately becomes less angry when copcake entered the thread. we need to keep her alive to calm him down l0l. There was not such a change. | ||
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Do I know you or have I played voice mafia with you? | ||
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Couldn't he just calmed down on his own? | ||
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but I'm trying to figure out who could be his partner | ||
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Like he said "rayn calmed down when cake arrived" Like how the fuck does he has that kind of info that we get along extremely too well? That's why I asked he says he was playing but he got it extremely right. | ||
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On September 05 2015 09:49 MoosyDoosy wrote: um...ok. this is generally irrelevant imo but i'll answer. it's pretty obvious. first pre-game there are these golden posts: these posts show that he's going to be nice around you. then when u enter the thread he stopped cursing immediately and started using smiley face emoticons. (  )also, my post was in no way serious. i was just making a joke there while noting a possible association. Oh ok, that explains it, sorry. | ||
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> How he voted you > Then he is like saying you are not using logic. To be fair yeah, sometimes YOU DON'T MAKE LOGIC but to SOME PEOPLE, to some of us we find your arguments pretty good but but the BIG BUT IS > it doesn't matter if you are going in circles or not making "sense" (which is subjective) when you put a lot of effort and are agressive asking is pretty much a big town lean of you so I don't know where he gets you might be mafia. Besides it's pretty obvious for the way you took Glowing bear claim. | ||
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When rayn uses more "tone reads and emotional reads" he tends to be mafia. | ||
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when i am town, i am cute lamb but I can also be fucking deadly when i am mad like a fucking rebel mutan sheep and because I am mexican it could be the chupacabras like hulk so be careful. | ||
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On September 05 2015 10:26 n00bKing wrote: Can someone translate this into English for me? Is nip tick nitpick? If so, then you couldn't possibly ask for rayn to nitpick on dumber and more inconsequential little details than he has already in the first 3 hours of this game. But I didn't ask him stuff? | ||
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Noobking TALK TO ME and tell me why rayn is mafia in YOUR EYES. look at my post where i say why i consider him town, because i won't accept "analyzing little details" as an answer. I hope you understand that. | ||
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I just remembered it needs to be exactly. | ||
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On September 05 2015 10:49 MoosyDoosy wrote: i don't like copcake tbh but i might just be unable to read her. Come at me and fight me then why dont you like me? | ||
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"lol bla bla bla i can't explain it" "insert some eminem song and a joke haha town" | ||
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On September 05 2015 11:03 MoosyDoosy wrote: nothing substantials. 1. seemed intent on misunderstanding wat i was saying early on 2. ur posts seem too intent on being nooby for my liking 3. u said ur not sheeping rayn, when ur sheeping him on n00bking. 4. in ur post on n00bking, u never came to a real conclusion, but now ur voting for him. 1.- This is a community in which only few people know me. Pretty few people know me and rayn get a long too well and love to play with each other. I missunderstood you and I say sorry. It's pretty ok for me to panic when someone knows details about me and just makes me wonder "how do they know this shit", it's obvious. 2.- I am not nooby, in fact I am bragging a lot. 3.- I am not sheeping rayn, he changed his vote to alakazam and i am on noobking, i even said he is frozen. 4.- Never came in a real conclusion? I didn't like he hasn't come and is fighting me when 5 min ago or less he was being pretty active, he got FROZEN, he doesn't have an answer. This game will be easy. | ||
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On September 05 2015 11:06 n00bKing wrote: There IS no post where you say you consider rayn Town, much less give an explanation for why you would consider him Town. There is a post where you say "When rayn uses more 'tone reads and emotional reads' he tends to be mafia." And that could be taken as an insinuation that rayn could be Town....IF it weren't for the FACT that he's used tone reads or emotional reads in THIS game. Look at what he has said about how he determined the allegiances of Alakaslam and yamato. They are both "tonereads" at best, if not better described as "reads based on literally nothing at all." Then he goes bonkers over a little bit of nothing from both Breshke and GlowingBear, and nothing helps to create a poor Town atmosphere for catching Scum more than jumping at those sorts of inconsequential bits of nothing, and trying to turn them into major talking points. It distracts the Town from actually doing anything productive. He would later say "My arguments on yamato and Slam are in fact really fucking good" which is laugh-out-loud preposterous. Says he's 95% sure Alakaslam is Mafia and 98% sure that I am. Why would a TOWN player ever want to take up space in the thread spouting stupid crap like that? Even more useless (somehow?) are posts such as: "Like i am literally the towniest person in this game." There is never any reason for a Town player to say something like this. The name of the game is for the Town players to work together, and create conditions where the Scum players cannot conceal themselves. With that goal in mind, everything rayn does is wrong. Dude there's one thing that makes rayn PRETTY TOWNIE and a fucking OBVIOUS ONE. The whole thing when GB claimed. Pls. | ||
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how would a TOWNIE react to the gb claim? | ||
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I am laughing so hard. | ||
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This is like the third time you have been saying that shit. | ||
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On September 05 2015 11:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: tell him he is just as bad as nordlending I like nord and he also died lol, killed by another town member. Actually town killed 5 townies i am like oh fucking lord. | ||
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On September 05 2015 12:00 MoosyDoosy wrote: that was the most obvious attempt at pocketing. copcake is playing up the noob/buddy ante really hard rite now. I am not pocketing anyone, me and rayn are friends already. Pockting would be me trying to seduce a player I dont know. | ||
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Either way I dont like how moose is acting towards me, not like I care as a person lol but like he is trying pretty hard to find me mafia when I am not. | ||
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On September 05 2015 12:14 Alakaslam wrote: Mein Gott. Who are you? Do you know my mantra when I have energy? Like I was about to Rayn Fight me on Sorry my brain. I am seriously wanting to go play voice soon Actually yeah I am known for having "moon logic" I am like Luna Lovegood, that type of wisdom. | ||
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Why does it matter if I dissapeared and it was too early? It was friday night and i am west coast. | ||
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ANDDDDDDDDDDD Lol moosy being like what do you think of cake and noobking? then when someone talks about other two people in the next two psots he is like what do you think of gb and alakazam? seriously are you just going to spend the whole game asking for other people reads and don't make your own but like attack me for shitty silly stuff you are also doing? LOL ok. | ||
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On September 06 2015 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: Cake what are your reads? I heavily disagree with Moosy being mafia. I disagree with you, moosy is being very hypocrite with his posts and he says i am antagonizing him when he is doing that to me, he is paying extremely TOO MUCH attention to me. I also don't like how he just said "trying to confirm if rayn is town" like seriously you already are. I don't like noobking either but he might just been having an ego attack and is being sturbborn, the whole "town would have reacted this way to gb claim" is fucking dumb. | ||
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On September 06 2015 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Look, Moosy does not think any of the current lynch candidates are mafia. He is looking into other places in who is mafia. There is honestly not much you have said that should get you a townread to people who do not know you and your play (which is basically everyone other than me and yamato). It is not unreasonable for him to think you are mafia, in my opinion. There is no reason to get into any shitfight because of this. He is not being a hypocrite, even if he is mafia in this game he isn't being a hypocrite here. Ok I will call down with moosy and just trust you. Now tell me who are your "very mafia" reads so I can go check. | ||
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On September 06 2015 02:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: - because he was catching up he didn't address my posts almost at all. i have a huge lot meta on him and when he is town he usually trusts me (when he thinks i am town, and he does here). here he doesn't. - his point on Breshke getting "thrown off" which he hasn't explained. There are these "filter" buttons in people's posts. If you click it you can have an ISO of that persons posts in this game. Read my filter, it's all there. But doesn't that make him townie? Like if he knows his meta and how he works, and he knows how you read him, wouldn't he try to mimic that as mafia? Mafia would try to win town's or strong player's trust, so I think that if he was mafia he would try to just act as "alakazam" town unless he is very very bad at faking it. | ||
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On September 05 2015 14:29 Alakaslam wrote: I discounted those on my own, I had 11  On September 05 2015 14:33 Alakaslam wrote: I never claimed that. I claimed Rayn push had an unintended side effect On September 05 2015 14:34 n00bKing wrote: No one gives a shit about this 9 posts vs 3 posts, 4 posts vs 3 posts, 11 posts vs 3 posts crap. Knock it off. Like no way in hell alakazam and noobking are mafia together | ||
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MoosyDoosy: He has an obsessions with my posts and i don't know why. When I arrived he said "rayn calmed down when cake arrived" which is like ???? he claims it is because rayn got happy in the sign up thread but it kinda looked like he was waiting for me. Since then he hasn't fucked stopped. He claims that my posts are "useless" and I beg to differ. He also says that I have been pocketing people (lol the workd pocketing) which is NOT TRUE because I am like, getting my own info on my own way, if I was POCKETING people I have my own ways and I have been doing a bad job pocketing if people have eyes on me, no? Oh the irony, so yeah you also fucking need to stop people to ASK WHAT DO YOU THINK? AND SHARE WHAT THE FUCK YOU THING BESIDES ME if you are fucking town, i don't know why rayn thinks you are town, effort? that's what people is saying so far but you just checking every step i do with a giant glass is what i don't call effort. When you asked glowing bear about what he thinks your answer was just "mmm" I mean it looks like you REALLY TRIED and CARED for his opinnion, I think you are pretending to put effort but you are actually doing nothing, you are just doing a mimic of what a town looks like. "HEY LOOK AT ME I AM ASKING QUESTIONS HEY EMINEM SONG" and guess what? you stopped to share eminem songs or whatever when i called out your bullshit. n00bKing: I didn't like his entrance nor I liked how he is interacting with rayn. Rayn is pretty town in my opinion and i think it's fucking obvious, he is also closed minded with his "oh but a town shouldn't react the way rayn is doing so" Dude if you are town, you should know rayn is town, i have shared the meta when he is mafia and i guess someone else has done it too, you might have your opinion but the fact rayn is attacking you or someone else doesn't make him mafia, why don't you sit, drink some tea and think in a word in which rayn is town, if he is mistaken prove to ALL OF US why you are TOWN but.... but BUT you have been trying to frame rayn all the fucking way, omg that is absolutely a very townie thing to do. Prove yourself and don't blame anyone of your mistakes. You might say "oh but it is exactly what moose is doing with you", it's different, rayn is looking at other places, moose isn't. CoughingHydra replaced by NocturneMage Day 1: I didn't like him, felt odd and now is replacing, will say neutral but i want to see his replacement. CopCake: Town forever Alakaslam: I know some of you have him as a little scum lean earlier but I think he is town. You might say "oh he is faking his meta" or "he sucks at faking" but from my point of view he would try to blend in and pretend to be town if he was mafia. Like if a strong player has a meta on him, wouldn't he try to be the most possible to look as his town meta? He also doesn't feel agressive or like trying to throw dirt unlike noobking and moose. Fidei86: Uh he is like, he exists but at the same time he doesnt. Little scum lean since i doubt the three mafia are active. scott31337: Town so far. Superbia: The few she has made look pretty town so far, she is trying to solve the game and give her perspective. GlowingBear: I don't like how fucking wishy washy he is with his reads and votes, he is also focusing on useless details. It's like he doesn't care who he is voting for. His also "omg i am town vigilante" looks like yeah dude, doesnt care if he dies because if he aint the vig the vig will vig him and if you were the vig you would shut up so mafia wouldn't attack you, you are pretty much an "i dont care lol" this whole game. But with everything you have caused with your claim you should have at least for now try to be serious but you haven't changed, mafia lean. boxerfred: Don't remember him. yamato77: Domo arigato mr yamato is town, I was mafia with him last game, he sucks as mafia. He would also be epic mia. Breshke: Uhhhh nothing has stood up a lot with me with this person. raynpelikoneet: Town. | ||
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moose, noobking, glowing bear, fidel are the ones to watch out. The replacement too. | ||
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ding ding ding | ||
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really | ||
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On September 06 2015 06:33 MoosyDoosy wrote: I'm fairly confident in my n00bKing read that he's town. I don't think CopCake and n00bKing are Mafia together. If n00bKing is lynched D1 and he flips town, then I want you all to consider CopCake as a serious candidate for a D2 lynch. If n00bKing is lynched D1 and he flips Mafia, then I will drop all grounds that CopCake could be Mafia. On D2 I will provide my case on CopCake to show that she is Mafia. But I am fairly certain in my reads on these two people. This honestly looks like you know that noobking is town. | ||
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On September 06 2015 03:59 scott31337 wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/493411-newbie-student-mafia-xiv-firefly?user=n00bKing http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/493411-newbie-student-mafia-xiv-firefly?user=CoughingHydra http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/493411-newbie-student-mafia-xiv-firefly?user=CopCake http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/493411-newbie-student-mafia-xiv-firefly?user=GlowingBear http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/493411-newbie-student-mafia-xiv-firefly?user=boxerfred I want GB or n00bking lynches though. To answer noobking this kind of posts are effort. | ||
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"he knows noob is town so because i am noob mafia read he wants me to get lynched tomorrow" Nope, I am town. If you have balls you will lynch me if i am a SUPER MAFIA READ OF YOU. | ||
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On September 06 2015 06:49 MoosyDoosy wrote: ok like what's the point of this post. ur not even refuting anything just saying something that a mafia could easily say and then trying to attack me personally. rather than doing that you can try and be productive so that rayn's magic town read of you comes true in my eyes. because right now u are super scummy to me. You are doing bets. Who the fuck of town does bets? You should lynch the person that you think is SCUM. Me and Noobking are the top list in lynch. YOUR BIGGEST SCUM READ AND ONE OF YOUR TOWN READS WHO SHOULD YOU BE LYNCHING? | ||
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"mafia should put a lot of effort" dude, mafia can hide and inactifag if there is v/v violence, so don't tell me that putting effort is only a mafia thing to do. this is the second time you are doing a general "how people play mafia rules" you have said this game. | ||
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are you... seriously scum reading me because i dont have the same reads as you and because we don't have a common scum read? | ||
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also to answer that other person: pocketing = saying someone is super good and stuff to win their trust. | ||
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On September 06 2015 07:45 GlowingBear wrote: Hi. I was rejected the hell is this? | ||
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On September 06 2015 07:49 n00bKing wrote: I don't know what you're talking about. I do know you're a decent lynch target today. Moosy are doing bets in this thread and you dont think those are not bad posts? <_< >_> <_< >_> changing my vote back to you. | ||
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Btw I am leaving in a a few. But between box and fidei, fidei pinged me more "mafia" than the other, ofc my opinion changed with his lastest posts. I have my own way of reading people and I'm not going to excuse myself for it, if you think my game is bad then go ahead. Those who know me know how I play, "intentions and tone" I still stand with noobking/moose/gb | ||
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He is making you have conditions and limiting town point of view. | ||
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I don't get that part | ||
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Btw I don't like to lynch "lurkers" but people who act scummy @gb | ||
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my other option would be moosy. | ||
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On September 07 2015 05:08 Superbia wrote: You think moosy would set up an associative lynch on you that is like this: - CopCake is mafia if n00bking flips town - CopCake is town if n00bking flips mafia. If he's mafia?? there are two options: He is mafia with noobking and someday had the confidence they are going to get me lynched and be like oooppsss Moosy is mafia, knows that noobking is town for obs reasons coz he is mafia, is enjoying this lynch and is setting me up for the next day. | ||
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He says I am mafia because I have his two townreads in my scum list and because we don't have a scum read in common like REAAALLLLYYYYY | ||
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On September 07 2015 05:15 Superbia wrote: Do you think really that think the first option is a logical world? godfather dude. | ||
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A) 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Doctor, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon B) 1 Town Vigilante, 1 Town Veteran, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 2 Mafia Goons C) 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Jailkeeper, 1 Town Unaware Miller, 7 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Framer, 1 Mafia Goon I am town, get misslynched If we are in the first set up is obvious town cop will go to moose or noobking, gets town result. GG | ||
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On September 07 2015 05:21 Superbia wrote: No. Moosy was proposing to lynch you day 2 if noobking flips town d1. How are you getting lynched if they're mafia together? Moosy BET that noobking was town and that when he gets lynched he will appear town so therefore I was mafia and that he would prove it. I already said that if I was his TOP scum read why he doesn't lynch me instead of protecting his biggest town read. | ||
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and I love how easily noobking can twist words. | ||
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Why am I mafia? Put it in simple points so I can answer. Btw most of my "views" are always read in a mafia perspective because I am a good strategist and good at being mafia. | ||
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why GB over noob? | ||
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But I wouldnt put my fingers out in the other two. | ||
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On September 07 2015 06:57 MoosyDoosy wrote: what is this from the voting thread copcake hmmm? Me voting GB? It's on my scum list but I would rather have your head or noob. | ||
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On September 07 2015 07:20 n00bKing wrote: If you claim Vigilante in a ruleset where you're the Doctor, the Cop would know you are lying. Cop and vigilante are different things. | ||
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huuhh fck | ||
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On September 07 2015 09:13 MoosyDoosy wrote: ok i've calmed down a bit. this is where i'm at. town: raynpelikoneet, NocturneMage town lean: yamato77 null: Superbia, scott31337, boxerfred, Breshke, Alakaslam people to look into: CopCake, Fidei86, GlowingBear i want reads from all of my null people. - Superbia has been asking a lot but not giving much reads which creates the illusion of a town working hard. - boxerfred and Breshke need to participate some more. - Alakaslam needs to do some more work and not filling his filter with useless posts. has a relaxed manner and the town read on n00bKing which i liked. people to look into: - GlowingBear's play was weird af at EoD. he needs to put in some work although he'll probably be sorted out by D2. - i've already talked about CopCake. - Fidei86 did some weird EoD things and i don't like how he's focused on me when i've answered his questions. rather he's refused to listen to them and seems to want to force a lynch on me. he's also been town reading copcake for no reason. once copcake flips scum, this is my next target. basically half the players are null haha tell us why? | ||
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On September 07 2015 12:13 GlowingBear wrote: Hi I'm Drunk This is a lie you are not drunk if you were you would write bad gg we got you. | ||
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domo arigato mr yamato :/ | ||
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What if they killed yamato because you were the obvious doctor protected person? | ||
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##vote: GlowingBear | ||
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On September 08 2015 07:55 Breshke wrote: Explain to me how any flips will reveal GB's alignment. Pretty easy There are only two scenarios now: -Rayn is mafia and is lying -Glowing bear is not the doctor and didnt protect yamato there was another alternative that was: -Glowing bear protected rayn because it is what rayn asked and mafia decided to kill the other biggest pro town person there is also another alternative but i dont know how likely it is: -there is no doctor and we are not in that set up but without a cc we dont know and is better if it stays like that | ||
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On September 08 2015 07:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also i am a doctor. Is this why you wanted to die? I dont get it, I mean I wouldnt say "I am the obvs target doctor protect me" if you were the doctor unless you wanted to die and 1.- doctored yourself and that will show up a no night kill 2.- you wanted to die and appear as the doctor so people would directly lynch gb I will assume the first was your plan. | ||
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A CIRCLE? | ||
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On September 08 2015 08:09 Fidei86 wrote: o.O Okay, well that makes d2 a little more ... interesting. Easier too! It's not really a hard decision for me here. I see no reason for a scum rayn to CC. We're not likely to lynch him this turn, and it's waaaaaay too early for him to be using the CC to try and save his mafia allies. It's just way to sub-optimal. Also, rayn's rage, while kind of ... you know ... cluttering ... makes sense from what I read of his meta. His switch off GB right at the end is a little bit suspect - if he is actually the cop then why move your vote? But maybe he figured that if he stayed on it then he would out himself as the cop? IDK. I think if I'm in his position then I probably just stay on GB. But, it's not like this game has been played optimally so far. It's gotta be GB boys. ##Vote: Glowing Bear Dude, which game are you playing? Rayn claimed doctor | ||
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yeah is the best case ever get a nobel prize ready already pls. | ||
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OH BEST CASE EVER. | ||
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trying not to lynch your scum panda glowing bear? | ||
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On September 08 2015 09:52 MoosyDoosy wrote: ##Vote: CopCake You are going to vote me when there is confirmed mafia in glowing bear? wtf? yeah gg you are the other mafia | ||
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- I don't know how i am creating a bad atmosphere I am tired of you going for me since the beginning, even yamato said it "you have an obsession with me" Besides yesterday you , YOU were lynching Noobking instead of me. and you DO NOT WANT to lynch GB | ||
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> I played voice mafia with her I kinda laughed XD | ||
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1.- why would HE CLAIM DOCTOR if he was mafia? I mean he could be like "I already won town cred why the fuck do i need to claim doctor" it doesn't make sense, like seriously it doesnt, he is cc GB because GB just SAID HE PROTECTED SOMEONE. We lynch GB he does, shows up as doctor rayn is pretty much GG next day. 2.- For all those who have that case on me, I am sorry but I still can't see why I am mafia with that, I am not pocketing people, I do what I have to do and I just dont blindly ship. | ||
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WHY THE FUCK WOULD I KILL YAMATO WHO FUCKING TOWNSREADS ME AND WOULD PROTECT ME FOREVERS? In that scenario he wouldn't be a treat to me. | ||
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On September 09 2015 06:34 Fidei86 wrote: The thing is dude that yes, she did read GB as scum, but the mentions of him were pretty sparse, and she said on more than one occasion that she much preferred to lynch n00b or Moosy. I don't think she gets nearly as much town cred from her GB read as you are giving her. The issue I have with Cake ... Well there are two. 1. She clearly has her own way of playing and of typing, and I personally find it quite difficult to follow. I just read her entire filter, and it's all so conversational and responsive that it's difficult to get a real sense of where she stands. It's not that this makes her Mafia, it means that my read on her is likely to be bad. 2. I'm kind of confused by her and Rayn having "ride or die" town reads on each other. I think Rayn is about to be exonerated by the GB flip, but cake came into the thread and straight away was convinced Rayn was town. I find that ... Suspicious. Like, you can be friends OOG, like me and HTS (<3) but we're never gonna give each other a free pass in Mafia. Yes, I have a Rayn town read- everyone does. But if you read Cake's filter, you'll see that a LOT of the posts are based on the premise that Rayn is town. If Rayn were to flip Mafia, her filter would be just awful. And that's the best reason to scum read her imo. So yeah, I think Cake is a scum read for me now. i think before I was taken in by her conversational style, which seemed towny (see point 1 above). The only reason I hate this read is that it probably makes Moosy town. But my read on Moosy is evolving in the same way as my read on n00b - his posts are too dumb to be Mafia. Still, that leaves me with only Slam and Rayn as solid town reads, Moosy as 'probably dumb town' and a whole lot of null and cake as a very slight scum lean. I already said why i town read rayn with scenarios where it is IMPOSSIBLE for him to be scum, like he would be gg next day if GB is an actual doctor. And I was pretty sure yamato said I was town because it is my normal play style. | ||
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On September 09 2015 07:12 Alakaslam wrote: CC- I was reading the nested quote, I have been townreading fidei. I want to see if you can find what is scummy about it. That post is textbook scum. I never said fideo was mafia o_O | ||
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On September 09 2015 06:59 NocturneMage wrote: anyways now I gotta sleep. night all. Btw i also play league, sona/vi/orianna master race | ||
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Will bring reads later, I am at work. | ||
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On September 11 2015 07:52 scott31337 wrote: GG Rayn - Mafia probably guessed correctly on the real doc and RB'ed or GB's slip about the setup isn't real (doubtful) or the Doc is a n00b (possible) So I'll start off on the fun - Who's with me? ##Vote Superbia Ok I didn't think about this o_O It's possible the set up it is not known yet -______- | ||
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On September 11 2015 07:54 MoosyDoosy wrote: where are ur reads. don't try and run, you mafia. Excuse me, but you are just so fucking terrible. | ||
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Don't touch Siberia supberbia. | ||
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On September 12 2015 02:08 Fidei86 wrote: Because neither of you have really said anything for a fair while now. You were both very quiet all of d2/n2. Then suddenly, you both thread re-enter at exactly the same time and start scum reading each other (or at least, criticising each other) when neither of you have really said much about each other before. And to top it all off, the topic you chose (is there a doctor, who are the PRs) just isn't helpful to town, at all. And at the end of it all you don't seem to have taken anything out of it. And, at the end of it, you both instantly turn your guns on me and seemingly forget what just went on before between you. That's my read on this situation. There's obviously a ton more work to do in this game, but, yeah. This, the people discussing this is pretty much mafia. They are trying to fish for roles, mafia obviously know the set up and asking questions, even the smallest ones, i think they are looking to know who know the set up and voila, you got a person with the pr. | ||
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Just continue to post and figure out the game, in before "omg cake but you are doing nothing" nope I was in my way but sometimes I also get fucking pissed when I am being tunneled by the most retarted stuff. I mean I wasnt mad with all of you but I believed that someone else could replace me so you dont deal with bad english and stuff. Either way, we don't know the set up and it's better it stays that way, if you are a good scum hunter you don't need to know it at all. MoosyDoosy CoughingHydra replaced by NocturneMage Day 1 Alakaslam Fidei86 scott31337 Superbia boxerfred Breshke We have 2 and 8 suspects (include me in your list and erase yourself) Now what do WE KNOW so far? | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/7NiBqoW.jpg) | ||
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I feel like you are baby garden me. | ||
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But first of all I want to ask you guys this: Why do you think sup is scum? | ||
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On September 12 2015 17:52 scott31337 wrote: I'm back from the pool party - got a couple driniks in me but I wanted to post my thoughts here - Moosy gets a little town love - He hasn't been not my top lynch and has had some good posting today. I've re-read Superbia's filter and I'm confident of where my vote is right now. The shitfight with Breshke tells me very little - I've just re-read the filter for good quotes and I cannot find any since the modkill one above- The only thing I've learned is you believe Boxerfred is town. BoxerFred Lurky d1, which I think is NAI for BF (as I pointed out before his prev game he lurked d1 and he was PR, so it might be a mafia or PR thing)? I didn't really like his push on fidei (didn't really feel like it came from a townie perspective). His read progression on fidei also doesn't really make sense, as fidei was calling md mafia (iirc), which bf registered, but was still iffy about fidei's alignment after bf also started calling md mafia (similar reads???). Calls people null/mafia who have been calling GB mafia. Reads not lining up. Possible mafia. Also throws lots of null-reads around. You have not shown me anything positive to change my vote. ---- Fidei seems tunnelled on the Superbia/Breshke arguement - I still see townie vibes here - Breshke's play has gotten downhill - and the BS above - I doubt he'll keep a vote on Superbia, he tried once. It could be a flail from the scum team - I think they are scared. He hasn't shown me anything positive to town. I'm up for a bit - then sleep and get up before deadline. Moosy gets some decent points for how much he's tried, and when he did calm down - looks more focused at finding scum. Fidei is slightly better. I just don't see the Copcake confirmed town - still on the better fish to fry NM - Way more posting then his last game (as mafia) - like a busy town man - townlean. Boxerfred ... ohhhh He forgets why I am town. (ummmm... wow) Reads Superbia town for his huge case - and - Let's go over that. + Show Spoiler [Boxer Case] + On September 11 2015 17:33 boxerfred wrote: This is from D1 after GlowingBears claim. This post is an answer to rayn who hit the truth in his "claiming vig D1 is a great thing to call out a town role, get a blue kill in exchange for the goon." (though rayn couldn't know that GB is the goon at that point. This post is strange in many ways. Superbia thinks GB might do a (serious!) vigi claim at the very beginning of D1. To me, claiming blue D1 is like the stupidest thing you can do if you truely are a blue. How does Superbia come to that conclusion? The bolded part contradicts the initial meaning of the post ("nah guys GB is stupid not scum") however. It's 100% wishywashy. Also, the initial post (the quote in the quote) - why is Superbia disliking rayn for his reaction to GB? He should be disliking GB for the initial blue shenanigans. This post really feels like it's coming from someone who has to hide something. Time for the tinfoil hat: What if that was a serious response to a claim that Superbia thought was real? Also, WHY did GB claim Vigi if he DID know about the setup? This makes me feel really (really!) unsure if there is indeed a doctor in. We have two people D1 (GB, Superbia) that are willing to think that there is a Vigi in. However, GB claimed Doctor and Rayn claimed Doctor. There was NO counterclaim up to this point, keep that in mind guys! We have two setup slips from GB (Vigi, Doc) and we do not know which one is true. Out of this, I extract two scenarios. a) Doctor setup. Superbia's CC to GB was pure bullshit, making him look townie. b) Vigi setup. Superbia's CC to GB was the truth, making him, well, look townie. c) Vigi + Doc claim was absolutely bullshit (which is the unlikeliest to me) I'm kinda surprised that I come to this conclusion. I'll continue with the setup before going back to Superbia: Vigi setup feels the most likely to me TBH. 2/3 goons in scum - that means the chance that GB would flip scum as goon is higher than in any other setup. Also, we have no DOCTOR counter claimed except the rayn yolo, which was risky but great however it was not a Doctor. Basically, ANY rule could've counterclaimed the doctor that is Vigi, Veteran or Jailkeeper. So GB's claim EoD1 could have played out awesome for scum, ESPECIALLY in Setup B (1 Town Vigilante, 1 Town Veteran, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 2 Mafia Goons). Mafia would've exchanged a simple goon with a strong town blue, potentially Jailkeeper. I think at this point I have a pretty good theory who another blue role is but I won't tell since I don't want the guy to get killed. Okay, back to Superbia. As I said above - the behaviour from this post is conclusively townie. Maybe my logic is flawed somewhere, somehow, so please test the waters. Another point that makes Superbia look townie D1 is that he instantly jumped on GB's claim - why would a fellow scum member do this given that he'd know GB's plan of outing a blue? It doesn't make sense. Although noone brings up the claim after all D1, Superbia does so when NM enters the thread. This could be out of "yo maybe NM replaced a blue and GB's trick might work here" (which I don't think tbh - feels way to unrealistic) or is indeed a "look at this and tell me what you think". Genuine. + Show Spoiler + On September 07 2015 03:35 Superbia wrote: I'm here. Haven't read past few pages. Game kinda feels hard. rayn/yamato still very town. Stuck on moosy's alignment. Something feels off compared to previous game filters. Not sure what, still reading. His associative read triggered all sorts of re-evaluations. Stuck on noobking's alignment. His post style feels different from his mafia post style. Planning on reading into his meta after moosy. Feels like moosy may have spewn him town if moosy is mafia. IDK copcake tied into this. Also stuck on her alignment. Don't know about slam/gb. Both seem very much on the sidelines. bf superlurk. Last game he did this he was PR and got lynched d1 for it. To be honest, I think I may have the PRs down to a small circle already (of either mafia or PR) and he's not among them. Need to hear from people who have played with him. So yeah. Still very much in the process of evaluation. Here for questions and talking if people are around. Specifically the 3 above. Very busy tabbing between game filters though. So don't expect a superquick response. First kind of list post from Superbia. While he's not talking about GB in this, he puts a null/scum lean on MoosyDoosy. Which makes me feel like they have different alignments however I'm not too sure if that holds. Putting this in spoilers to not draw attention from the main parts of the post. Here is more interaction from GB which makes Superbia change his read of scott from town. This looks important: And indeed, Superbia brings up GB's case on Scott: At this point of filter diving, I have to say that Superbia's filter is full of oneliners, full of questions that lead to nowhere and don't do a thing. Not liking this at all. Also, he really likes GB's case on scott (this is one of the rare occasions where Superbia actually says his opinion). Here, he says it even multiple times: Scum read on Moosy, again (consistent!). However lateron, Slam calls Superbia out on his growing wishy-washyness: This is accurate. How big is the chance the scum!superbia would call out both of his team mates in one post (scott/gb vs. moosy/copcake)? This makes me feel he's town. This is huge. Again that makes me feel Superbia is town. I am now at his huge list post and will refer to this in a different post for the sake of readability. tl;dr - I actually think Superbia is not a good lynch this day. He appears townie to me after I fully evaluated his filter. I think you are reaching hard here, bud. Moosy moves up - He's pulled a lot of energy and caring boxer moves down. I'll give more quotes tomorrow. My thoughts right now - 2/4 in Breshke/Boxerfred/Superbia/MoosyDoosy Town team are CopCake/Slam/Fidei/scott/nm I have a good town plan and don't want to let the mafia get any ideas of my plan - they are flailing once GB got busted - smart town should understand. Unless you have a better case, Superbia needs to get lynched. I'll be up before deadline. what? | ||
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I tend to go on december there. | ||
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Your soley interaction is clearing me the theory I had of you. Also I am west coast, beach is like 20 min from where I live. BOOM. | ||
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Most beautiful oceanic view according to national geographic. Dolphins randomly and naturally appearing, etc. | ||
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Can I like you know, take moosy from his neck and shake him off? | ||
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The only reason I am not lynching you right away like rn is because your reactions tell me more of you than anything else. | ||
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I will vote scott for the "i dont have a read on copcake but she is town" | ||
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Btw I have to make a presentation for PEMEX people. I don't get why you guys are voting sup tho, I think he is super town, the only thing I disliked was his "cake is town because i played voice mafia with her" but that's it << another thing that irked me. | ||
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Lol No, I mean I would bus moosy PRETTY HARD but there is ONE THING holding me to do so. | ||
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Yesterday at night I got a call if I could help with one presentation and I was like ok. Woke up with a doc document in my email, no logo, no nothing, just text. It's a new company so I have to do the miracle of doing some sort of branding today. | ||
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The reason why I hold back with moosy is because I believed he was a PR, but with the new claim doctor it doesn't make sense, because you know, if he was cop he would have cop me asap since he has been on my ass since day 1. I mean the reason why he had been putting tons of effort etc, I was like "ok maybe he is all hyped and shit because he believes he is town saviour" but in the world in which we know there is a doc as a fact it absolutly makes no fucking sense for him to be cop. GG He is mafia, kill him with fire. | ||
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I mean, moosy knows TOO MUCH info of me and the other reason he would get those is if he is team with someone who has played with me before. Maybe alakasam also. | ||
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Rip me in peperonnis, I am just about to eat taco fish. | ||
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On September 13 2015 07:57 NocturneMage wrote: Are you trying to say that md is coming to a conclusion on your alignment abruptly? like he's saying your scum, but that would only make sense if you and he are on a team together. as in you two have been double bussing the whole game. if he argues you are town without having a good reason to call you town that would be a valid TMI argument. he's not doing either. and where in this forum are you drawing a MD and Fidei team? Now here you are putting words in my mouth. I said he knows too MUCH PERSONAL INFO of me. | ||
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GG Nocturne mage and noobking. also rayn and yamato for getting gb and md. | ||
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JESUSCHRIST. | ||
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I also left an order of how you should have killed people but alas you didnt. | ||
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I hope you improve Moosy. | ||
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GB survived another day because I told him to claim doctor -__- and figured out bershke was the doctor that's why he got role blocked. But then even of several times telling MD to stop he continued to push and push and push and push and push and push and push FGS | ||
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TWO TEAM MATES. And he has a horrible attitude in the qt saying how cool he was. -__- it was like if we were ginean pigs to sacrifice. | ||
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On September 23 2015 02:27 n00bKing wrote: Day 1 I list 4 different reasons why CopCake is Scum, and vote against her all day. Late Day 1, after yamato has put GB in trouble, he makes a terrible Doctor claim. I call it out as BS (twice) and switch to him. My voting history: ##Vote: CopCake ##Unvote ##Vote: GlowingBear EASY GAME. :D I selected rayn for the non-vote, because I was virtually certain that if he was Town, he would be the easiest player in the game (probably the easiest player on the SITE) for me to manipulate. And I couldn't have asked for the strategy to work any better for me than it did. As it enabled me to completely eliminate rayn as a suspect (hence where I say that rayn was "doing all of the Scum team's work for them", which can only be true if he's Town) so that I can promptly stop reading anything he says. And when he predictably tries to put together a push on me, I pegged CopCake jumping on board in precisely the spot where I expected to catch Scum doing it (and told everyone so). There was a post I made where I refused to answer GB's questions, because it would interfere with how I was "helping two players do something." The two players I was helping were the two that were voting against me: yamato and rayn. And by refusing to explain my interactions with rayn, I was helping yamato and rayn get a Scum player to claim the safe landing spot on me, which is exactly what CopCake did, and she was snared. I had said that all would be explained on Night 1, so if people just follow through with the GB lynch after his preposterous Doctor claim, then I think there's a good chance I convince Mage to check CopCake on Night 1, and we lynch Red on the first 2 Days of the game. And really, ALL that is necessary for this all to come off without a hitch is for rayn to STFU. That's it. yamato and I steamroll this game if rayn just stays out of the way. It would probably have taken a few more days to catch Moosy (since unlike CopCake, he actually knows something about how to look Town) but after hitting Red on the first 2 Days, we have an eternity of mislynches to figure out the bus. Anyway, goodbye TL. Unlike Fidei, I will not be ending my Mafia-playing career. I will continue to play as often as I can, just not at THIS fuckin' place. Back to the sites where players can see beyond what is 6 inches in front of their face. Back to the sites where people actually think before they post. Back to the sites where ZERO replacements are needed in the signups, because people actually show up to play, and care whether they win or lose. Two different people have tried to tell me that I'm only frustrated with the low level of play here because I've played in the Newbie games. And that since I have more experience than the coaches I've received, the "big games" would be more my speed. NOPE. I've read a few of the big games too, and the level of play in them can be summarized as "I'm 100 pages behind. lol, what do?" In my last 15 games on sites other than this one (you know, sites where people THINK...and TRY...) I am a combined 12-2-1, and haven't had any losses in my last 7 games. I could try to go through the steps of canceling or deactivating my account. But given the attitudes of the players here, I think it would be more appropriate if I just decided that I "can't be bothered" to do anything.  So long, everyone! And nice work, Moosy!Bullshit, trust me I KNOW HOW TO LOOK TOWN, this game was absolutely annoying to me. Not rsoultin's fault tho. And this is what I like about mafia community, some people will come and brag stuff I think they don't deserve. | ||
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On September 23 2015 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes there was, Moosy. Which is why he played well and town didn't. I know people might not know how to lead, it doesn't make my argument invalid. I super ultra MEGA disagree | ||
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