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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 08 2015 21:22 GMT
#1701
Ok, right now I am so fucking creeped with MD

NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 08 2015 21:22 GMT
#1702
edit: (at md) so therefore it's not reasonable to top scum read her now, not in your current world, and not unless you think gb is flipping town
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 08 2015 21:23 GMT
#1703
On September 09 2015 06:22 CopCake wrote:
Ok, right now I am so fucking creeped with MD



in your world you have md and gb as scum.

who is the final one?
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 08 2015 21:25 GMT
#1704
and I know they say associative reads are bad, but even a range of suspects is cool too.

it's just you've been (hyper)focused on those three, one is proven wrong

I'm not familiar with your voice style - I'm uk and I don't know how early/late you people play

Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 08 2015 21:26 GMT
#1705
edit: from your filter, its just you've been (hyper)focused on those three, one is proven wrong
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 08 2015 21:27 GMT
#1706
Might be breshke, someone in the shadows who doesn't want to have too much attention.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 08 2015 21:28 GMT
#1707
Eh I am a tone reader and I am pretty good with night actions / creating possible scenarios of what would have happened.

NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 08 2015 21:30 GMT
#1708
On September 09 2015 06:27 CopCake wrote:
Might be breshke, someone in the shadows who doesn't want to have too much attention.


On September 09 2015 06:28 CopCake wrote:
Eh I am a tone reader and I am pretty good with night actions / creating possible scenarios of what would have happened.


alright, fair enough.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 08 2015 21:30 GMT
#1709
last thing before I go - also in relation to superbia's large post, I didn't think it was bad. there were some thought provoking questions, which makes me think it's towny.

I start work at 6am tomorrow, so I need to be off for now.

Good night.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 08 2015 21:32 GMT
#1710
You are not a nocturne mage.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 08 2015 21:34 GMT
#1711
For the people who think I am mafia:

WHY THE FUCK WOULD I KILL YAMATO WHO FUCKING TOWNSREADS ME AND WOULD PROTECT ME FOREVERS?

In that scenario he wouldn't be a treat to me.

Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
September 08 2015 21:34 GMT
#1712
On September 09 2015 06:21 NocturneMage wrote:
damn I lost my last post

gah

md, her top scumreads were you/nk/gb

I faulted her for her reads on you/slam/gb, the n00bking read was reasonable and so didn't cite it

it's possible she's mafia for pushing n00bking, would easily be able to take advantage of that but again at face value it's reasonable, I and plenty others saw fault with nk's gameplay to scumread or vote him

but yet again, this conflicts with her interactions with gb, again assuming gb flips scum

so therefore it's not reasonable to top read her now, not in your current world and not unless you think gb is flipping town

The thing is dude that yes, she did read GB as scum, but the mentions of him were pretty sparse, and she said on more than one occasion that she much preferred to lynch n00b or Moosy. I don't think she gets nearly as much town cred from her GB read as you are giving her.

The issue I have with Cake ... Well there are two.

1. She clearly has her own way of playing and of typing, and I personally find it quite difficult to follow. I just read her entire filter, and it's all so conversational and responsive that it's difficult to get a real sense of where she stands. It's not that this makes her Mafia, it means that my read on her is likely to be bad.

2. I'm kind of confused by her and Rayn having "ride or die" town reads on each other. I think Rayn is about to be exonerated by the GB flip, but cake came into the thread and straight away was convinced Rayn was town. I find that ... Suspicious. Like, you can be friends OOG, like me and HTS (<3) but we're never gonna give each other a free pass in Mafia. Yes, I have a Rayn town read- everyone does. But if you read Cake's filter, you'll see that a LOT of the posts are based on the premise that Rayn is town. If Rayn were to flip Mafia, her filter would be just awful. And that's the best reason to scum read her imo.

So yeah, I think Cake is a scum read for me now. i think before I was taken in by her conversational style, which seemed towny (see point 1 above).

The only reason I hate this read is that it probably makes Moosy town. But my read on Moosy is evolving in the same way as my read on n00b - his posts are too dumb to be Mafia.

Still, that leaves me with only Slam and Rayn as solid town reads, Moosy as 'probably dumb town' and a whole lot of null and cake as a very slight scum lean.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
September 08 2015 21:47 GMT
#1713
On September 09 2015 06:34 CopCake wrote:
For the people who think I am mafia:

WHY THE FUCK WOULD I KILL YAMATO WHO FUCKING TOWNSREADS ME AND WOULD PROTECT ME FOREVERS?

In that scenario he wouldn't be a treat to me.


Cake, can you please link us to the post where Yamato says he town-reads you? I just went back through his filter and I saw one post where he said "I don't like MD, therefore I don't like the Cake lynch", but that's hardly ... like a strong read.

But I may have missed it. NK WIFOM is always dangerous, but if there's something I missed where Yamato said that then that would be kinda strong evidence the other way.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 08 2015 21:53 GMT
#1714
On September 09 2015 06:32 CopCake wrote:
You are not a nocturne mage.


lol

I'm an ER doctor IRL (and I'm serious, this is NOT a doc claim or anything)
I work crazy overnights sometimes but that's not the reason for my name.

I'm a huge League fanatic, hence my name, I generally enjoy playing casters.

unfortunately my wife prefers to play dota. honestly fuck dota.
would policy lynch any dota player in this game if I could
(okay not really)

anyways

fidei

I'm not giving her town cred necessarily. I'm working backwards. are you suggesting that copcake is bussing gb then if gb flips red? in your world gb is red? can you then explain the points I drew up in my wall of text?

I am struggling with that.

actually this question should be posted to ANYONE who thinks copcake is mafia. we are all in the world I think where gb flips mafia.

she has scum tells but you have to explain the mafia motivation for calling out a partner in gb the way she did

what troubles me with md is that in his world copcake should NOT be top lynch UNLESS he can explain the bussing situation.

so I need to reconcile this.

NOW I'm off to bed. will sort it out tomorrow.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 08 2015 21:53 GMT
#1715
Sup
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 08 2015 21:54 GMT
#1716
On September 09 2015 06:53 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2015 06:32 CopCake wrote:
You are not a nocturne mage.


lol

I'm an ER doctor IRL (and I'm serious, this is NOT a doc claim or anything)
I work crazy overnights sometimes but that's not the reason for my name.

I'm a huge League fanatic, hence my name, I generally enjoy playing casters.

unfortunately my wife prefers to play dota. honestly fuck dota.
would policy lynch any dota player in this game if I could
(okay not really)

anyways

fidei

I'm not giving her town cred necessarily. I'm working backwards. are you suggesting that copcake is bussing gb then if gb flips red? in your world gb is red? can you then explain the points I drew up in my wall of text?

I am struggling with that.

actually this question should be posted to ANYONE who thinks copcake is mafia. we are all in the world I think where gb flips mafia.

she has scum tells but you have to explain the mafia motivation for calling out a partner in gb the way she did

what troubles me with md is that in his world copcake should NOT be top lynch UNLESS he can explain the bussing situation.

so I need to reconcile this.

NOW I'm off to bed. will sort it out tomorrow.


Lynch it with fire.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 08 2015 21:55 GMT
#1717
On September 09 2015 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
also @Superbia:

I already explained this to Fidei. My read progression was as follows:
1. n00bKing is town.
2. Everyone scum reads n00bKing.
3. Me: ???...maybe I'm wrong
4. n00bKing posts more of his usual stuff
5. Me: n00bKing is town.


But what happened at EoD when you were iffy again? What made you want to sheep rayn knowing full well he was hard reading noobking scum.
Minimal effort.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 08 2015 21:55 GMT
#1718
On September 09 2015 06:34 Fidei86 wrote:
The thing is dude that yes, she did read GB as scum, but the mentions of him were pretty sparse, and she said on more than one occasion that she much preferred to lynch n00b or Moosy. I don't think she gets nearly as much town cred from her GB read as you are giving her.


wait wait wait

so you are saying she's softpushing him?

hmmmmmm
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 08 2015 21:57 GMT
#1719
Hey super,

FYI my stance on you is "don't touch until D3 at earliest"

Thx

Remember I give people chances when they are not in the tunnel of thuu (like GlowingBear is and Breshke was)
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 08 2015 21:58 GMT
#1720
she didn't say much fidei but it was early but then take into account what she did with him at eod

- she voted him over n00bking, who was mislynched
- she called out gb for claiming too late

do you really think partners would do this?
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
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