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anyways now I gotta sleep.
night all.
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On September 09 2015 06:54 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2015 06:53 NocturneMage wrote:On September 09 2015 06:32 CopCake wrote:
You are not a nocturne mage. lol I'm an ER doctor IRL (and I'm serious, this is NOT a doc claim or anything) I work crazy overnights sometimes but that's not the reason for my name. I'm a huge League fanatic, hence my name, I generally enjoy playing casters. unfortunately my wife prefers to play dota. honestly fuck dota. would policy lynch any dota player in this game if I could  (okay not really) anyways fidei I'm not giving her town cred necessarily. I'm working backwards. are you suggesting that copcake is bussing gb then if gb flips red? in your world gb is red? can you then explain the points I drew up in my wall of text? I am struggling with that. actually this question should be posted to ANYONE who thinks copcake is mafia. we are all in the world I think where gb flips mafia. she has scum tells but you have to explain the mafia motivation for calling out a partner in gb the way she did what troubles me with md is that in his world copcake should NOT be top lynch UNLESS he can explain the bussing situation. so I need to reconcile this. NOW I'm off to bed. will sort it out tomorrow. Lynch it with fire.
I didn't notice the bolded and was really confused because I think it is a really good post
Also why arnt you more annoyed your hug post didn't get much attention
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On September 09 2015 06:34 Fidei86 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2015 06:21 NocturneMage wrote:
damn I lost my last post
gah
md, her top scumreads were you/nk/gb
I faulted her for her reads on you/slam/gb, the n00bking read was reasonable and so didn't cite it
it's possible she's mafia for pushing n00bking, would easily be able to take advantage of that but again at face value it's reasonable, I and plenty others saw fault with nk's gameplay to scumread or vote him
but yet again, this conflicts with her interactions with gb, again assuming gb flips scum
so therefore it's not reasonable to top read her now, not in your current world and not unless you think gb is flipping town The thing is dude that yes, she did read GB as scum, but the mentions of him were pretty sparse, and she said on more than one occasion that she much preferred to lynch n00b or Moosy. I don't think she gets nearly as much town cred from her GB read as you are giving her. The issue I have with Cake ... Well there are two. 1. She clearly has her own way of playing and of typing, and I personally find it quite difficult to follow. I just read her entire filter, and it's all so conversational and responsive that it's difficult to get a real sense of where she stands. It's not that this makes her Mafia, it means that my read on her is likely to be bad. 2. I'm kind of confused by her and Rayn having "ride or die" town reads on each other. I think Rayn is about to be exonerated by the GB flip, but cake came into the thread and straight away was convinced Rayn was town. I find that ... Suspicious. Like, you can be friends OOG, like me and HTS (<3) but we're never gonna give each other a free pass in Mafia. Yes, I have a Rayn town read- everyone does. But if you read Cake's filter, you'll see that a LOT of the posts are based on the premise that Rayn is town. If Rayn were to flip Mafia, her filter would be just awful. And that's the best reason to scum read her imo. So yeah, I think Cake is a scum read for me now. i think before I was taken in by her conversational style, which seemed towny (see point 1 above). The only reason I hate this read is that it probably makes Moosy town. But my read on Moosy is evolving in the same way as my read on n00b - his posts are too dumb to be Mafia. Still, that leaves me with only Slam and Rayn as solid town reads, Moosy as 'probably dumb town' and a whole lot of null and cake as a very slight scum lean.
I already said why i town read rayn with scenarios where it is IMPOSSIBLE for him to be scum, like he would be gg next day if GB is an actual doctor.
And I was pretty sure yamato said I was town because it is my normal play style.
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On September 09 2015 06:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Hey super,
FYI my stance on you is "don't touch until D3 at earliest"
Thx
Remember I give people chances when they are not in the tunnel of thuu (like GlowingBear is and Breshke was)
Yeah it's fine. I actually kinda started flipping on you in my big post. Maybe because I like reading your posts, but I probably won't even touch you d3.
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On September 09 2015 06:55 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2015 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
also @Superbia:
I already explained this to Fidei. My read progression was as follows:
1. n00bKing is town.
2. Everyone scum reads n00bKing.
3. Me: ???...maybe I'm wrong
4. n00bKing posts more of his usual stuff
5. Me: n00bKing is town. But what happened at EoD when you were iffy again? What made you want to sheep rayn knowing full well he was hard reading noobking scum.
i was willing to sheep rayn other than n00bking.
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On September 09 2015 06:59 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2015 06:54 Superbia wrote:On September 09 2015 06:53 NocturneMage wrote:On September 09 2015 06:32 CopCake wrote:
You are not a nocturne mage. lol I'm an ER doctor IRL (and I'm serious, this is NOT a doc claim or anything) I work crazy overnights sometimes but that's not the reason for my name. I'm a huge League fanatic, hence my name, I generally enjoy playing casters. unfortunately my wife prefers to play dota. honestly fuck dota. would policy lynch any dota player in this game if I could (okay not really) anyways fidei I'm not giving her town cred necessarily. I'm working backwards. are you suggesting that copcake is bussing gb then if gb flips red? in your world gb is red? can you then explain the points I drew up in my wall of text? I am struggling with that. actually this question should be posted to ANYONE who thinks copcake is mafia. we are all in the world I think where gb flips mafia. she has scum tells but you have to explain the mafia motivation for calling out a partner in gb the way she did what troubles me with md is that in his world copcake should NOT be top lynch UNLESS he can explain the bussing situation. so I need to reconcile this. NOW I'm off to bed. will sort it out tomorrow. Lynch it with fire. I didn't notice the bolded and was really confused because I think it is a really good post Also why arnt you more annoyed your hug post didn't get much attention
I wouldn't read it myself rofl. Way too much text. It's just there for people to see my thought process. Today is about GB.
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On September 09 2015 07:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2015 06:55 Superbia wrote:On September 09 2015 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
also @Superbia:
I already explained this to Fidei. My read progression was as follows:
1. n00bKing is town.
2. Everyone scum reads n00bKing.
3. Me: ???...maybe I'm wrong
4. n00bKing posts more of his usual stuff
5. Me: n00bKing is town. But what happened at EoD when you were iffy again? What made you want to sheep rayn knowing full well he was hard reading noobking scum. i was willing to sheep rayn other than n00bking.
So why not just say you want to kill GB.
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On September 09 2015 07:02 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2015 07:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 09 2015 06:55 Superbia wrote:On September 09 2015 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
also @Superbia:
I already explained this to Fidei. My read progression was as follows:
1. n00bKing is town.
2. Everyone scum reads n00bKing.
3. Me: ???...maybe I'm wrong
4. n00bKing posts more of his usual stuff
5. Me: n00bKing is town. But what happened at EoD when you were iffy again? What made you want to sheep rayn knowing full well he was hard reading noobking scum. i was willing to sheep rayn other than n00bking. So why not just say you want to kill GB.
because rayn switched off of gb. i was completely willing to vote him had rayn decided to stay on him. i was also panicking at that point because i had no idea how to read gb's claim at that point and decided to sheep. one thing that i was not going to sheep was n00bKing tho for reasons I've already stated.
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On September 07 2015 06:53 scott31337 wrote:
N00b is putting in a lot of posting and got a slight move up, but like what rayn says - he's not pushing anyone - like he's waiting to see what happens - and that makes me worried - He looks worse than the rest in the game - still #2.
GB - I went over this already - #1 - voting him now
I think Copcake's town and am not seeing the reasoning for him.
GlowingBear (5): Alakaslam, scott31337, raynpelikoneet, yamato77, Fidei86
copcake (3): n00bking, moosydoosy, nocturnemage
n00bking (3): CopCake, boxerfred, Superbia
Alakaslam (1): Breshke
scott310337 (1): GlowingBear
the GB wagon looks pure and I think every one on him is town.
This was a good post
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On September 09 2015 07:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2015 07:02 Superbia wrote:On September 09 2015 07:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 09 2015 06:55 Superbia wrote:On September 09 2015 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
also @Superbia:
I already explained this to Fidei. My read progression was as follows:
1. n00bKing is town.
2. Everyone scum reads n00bKing.
3. Me: ???...maybe I'm wrong
4. n00bKing posts more of his usual stuff
5. Me: n00bKing is town. But what happened at EoD when you were iffy again? What made you want to sheep rayn knowing full well he was hard reading noobking scum. i was willing to sheep rayn other than n00bking. So why not just say you want to kill GB. because rayn switched off of gb. i was completely willing to vote him had rayn decided to stay on him. i was also panicking at that point because i had no idea how to read gb's claim at that point and decided to sheep. one thing that i was not going to sheep was n00bKing tho for reasons I've already stated.
Meh. You did kind of defend noobking kind of EoD. Why did you not try to steer rayn away from noobking at that moment?
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On September 09 2015 07:10 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2015 07:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 09 2015 07:02 Superbia wrote:On September 09 2015 07:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 09 2015 06:55 Superbia wrote:On September 09 2015 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
also @Superbia:
I already explained this to Fidei. My read progression was as follows:
1. n00bKing is town.
2. Everyone scum reads n00bKing.
3. Me: ???...maybe I'm wrong
4. n00bKing posts more of his usual stuff
5. Me: n00bKing is town. But what happened at EoD when you were iffy again? What made you want to sheep rayn knowing full well he was hard reading noobking scum. i was willing to sheep rayn other than n00bking. So why not just say you want to kill GB. because rayn switched off of gb. i was completely willing to vote him had rayn decided to stay on him. i was also panicking at that point because i had no idea how to read gb's claim at that point and decided to sheep. one thing that i was not going to sheep was n00bKing tho for reasons I've already stated. Meh. You did kind of defend noobking kind of EoD. Why did you not try to steer rayn away from noobking at that moment?
look back at EoD. When rayn made it clear he was switching off of gb and onto n00bKing i told him not to. but that was like at 2 min to deadline l0l.
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On September 09 2015 06:59 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2015 06:34 Fidei86 wrote:On September 09 2015 06:21 NocturneMage wrote:
damn I lost my last post
gah
md, her top scumreads were you/nk/gb
I faulted her for her reads on you/slam/gb, the n00bking read was reasonable and so didn't cite it
it's possible she's mafia for pushing n00bking, would easily be able to take advantage of that but again at face value it's reasonable, I and plenty others saw fault with nk's gameplay to scumread or vote him
but yet again, this conflicts with her interactions with gb, again assuming gb flips scum
so therefore it's not reasonable to top read her now, not in your current world and not unless you think gb is flipping town The thing is dude that yes, she did read GB as scum, but the mentions of him were pretty sparse, and she said on more than one occasion that she much preferred to lynch n00b or Moosy. I don't think she gets nearly as much town cred from her GB read as you are giving her. The issue I have with Cake ... Well there are two. 1. She clearly has her own way of playing and of typing, and I personally find it quite difficult to follow. I just read her entire filter, and it's all so conversational and responsive that it's difficult to get a real sense of where she stands. It's not that this makes her Mafia, it means that my read on her is likely to be bad. 2. I'm kind of confused by her and Rayn having "ride or die" town reads on each other. I think Rayn is about to be exonerated by the GB flip, but cake came into the thread and straight away was convinced Rayn was town. I find that ... Suspicious. Like, you can be friends OOG, like me and HTS (<3) but we're never gonna give each other a free pass in Mafia. Yes, I have a Rayn town read- everyone does. But if you read Cake's filter, you'll see that a LOT of the posts are based on the premise that Rayn is town. If Rayn were to flip Mafia, her filter would be just awful. And that's the best reason to scum read her imo. So yeah, I think Cake is a scum read for me now. i think before I was taken in by her conversational style, which seemed towny (see point 1 above). The only reason I hate this read is that it probably makes Moosy town. But my read on Moosy is evolving in the same way as my read on n00b - his posts are too dumb to be Mafia. Still, that leaves me with only Slam and Rayn as solid town reads, Moosy as 'probably dumb town' and a whole lot of null and cake as a very slight scum lean. I already said why i town read rayn with scenarios where it is IMPOSSIBLE for him to be scum, like he would be gg next day if GB is an actual doctor. And I was pretty sure yamato said I was town because it is my normal play style.
CC-
I was reading the nested quote, I have been townreading fidei.
I want to see if you can find what is scummy about it. That post is textbook scum.
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On September 09 2015 07:12 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2015 06:59 CopCake wrote:On September 09 2015 06:34 Fidei86 wrote:On September 09 2015 06:21 NocturneMage wrote:
damn I lost my last post
gah
md, her top scumreads were you/nk/gb
I faulted her for her reads on you/slam/gb, the n00bking read was reasonable and so didn't cite it
it's possible she's mafia for pushing n00bking, would easily be able to take advantage of that but again at face value it's reasonable, I and plenty others saw fault with nk's gameplay to scumread or vote him
but yet again, this conflicts with her interactions with gb, again assuming gb flips scum
so therefore it's not reasonable to top read her now, not in your current world and not unless you think gb is flipping town The thing is dude that yes, she did read GB as scum, but the mentions of him were pretty sparse, and she said on more than one occasion that she much preferred to lynch n00b or Moosy. I don't think she gets nearly as much town cred from her GB read as you are giving her. The issue I have with Cake ... Well there are two. 1. She clearly has her own way of playing and of typing, and I personally find it quite difficult to follow. I just read her entire filter, and it's all so conversational and responsive that it's difficult to get a real sense of where she stands. It's not that this makes her Mafia, it means that my read on her is likely to be bad. 2. I'm kind of confused by her and Rayn having "ride or die" town reads on each other. I think Rayn is about to be exonerated by the GB flip, but cake came into the thread and straight away was convinced Rayn was town. I find that ... Suspicious. Like, you can be friends OOG, like me and HTS (<3) but we're never gonna give each other a free pass in Mafia. Yes, I have a Rayn town read- everyone does. But if you read Cake's filter, you'll see that a LOT of the posts are based on the premise that Rayn is town. If Rayn were to flip Mafia, her filter would be just awful. And that's the best reason to scum read her imo. So yeah, I think Cake is a scum read for me now. i think before I was taken in by her conversational style, which seemed towny (see point 1 above). The only reason I hate this read is that it probably makes Moosy town. But my read on Moosy is evolving in the same way as my read on n00b - his posts are too dumb to be Mafia. Still, that leaves me with only Slam and Rayn as solid town reads, Moosy as 'probably dumb town' and a whole lot of null and cake as a very slight scum lean. I already said why i town read rayn with scenarios where it is IMPOSSIBLE for him to be scum, like he would be gg next day if GB is an actual doctor. And I was pretty sure yamato said I was town because it is my normal play style. CC- I was reading the nested quote, I have been townreading fidei. I want to see if you can find what is scummy about it. That post is textbook scum.
I never said fideo was mafia o_O
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On September 09 2015 07:15 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2015 07:12 Alakaslam wrote:On September 09 2015 06:59 CopCake wrote:On September 09 2015 06:34 Fidei86 wrote:On September 09 2015 06:21 NocturneMage wrote:
damn I lost my last post
gah
md, her top scumreads were you/nk/gb
I faulted her for her reads on you/slam/gb, the n00bking read was reasonable and so didn't cite it
it's possible she's mafia for pushing n00bking, would easily be able to take advantage of that but again at face value it's reasonable, I and plenty others saw fault with nk's gameplay to scumread or vote him
but yet again, this conflicts with her interactions with gb, again assuming gb flips scum
so therefore it's not reasonable to top read her now, not in your current world and not unless you think gb is flipping town The thing is dude that yes, she did read GB as scum, but the mentions of him were pretty sparse, and she said on more than one occasion that she much preferred to lynch n00b or Moosy. I don't think she gets nearly as much town cred from her GB read as you are giving her. The issue I have with Cake ... Well there are two. 1. She clearly has her own way of playing and of typing, and I personally find it quite difficult to follow. I just read her entire filter, and it's all so conversational and responsive that it's difficult to get a real sense of where she stands. It's not that this makes her Mafia, it means that my read on her is likely to be bad. 2. I'm kind of confused by her and Rayn having "ride or die" town reads on each other. I think Rayn is about to be exonerated by the GB flip, but cake came into the thread and straight away was convinced Rayn was town. I find that ... Suspicious. Like, you can be friends OOG, like me and HTS (<3) but we're never gonna give each other a free pass in Mafia. Yes, I have a Rayn town read- everyone does. But if you read Cake's filter, you'll see that a LOT of the posts are based on the premise that Rayn is town. If Rayn were to flip Mafia, her filter would be just awful. And that's the best reason to scum read her imo. So yeah, I think Cake is a scum read for me now. i think before I was taken in by her conversational style, which seemed towny (see point 1 above). The only reason I hate this read is that it probably makes Moosy town. But my read on Moosy is evolving in the same way as my read on n00b - his posts are too dumb to be Mafia. Still, that leaves me with only Slam and Rayn as solid town reads, Moosy as 'probably dumb town' and a whole lot of null and cake as a very slight scum lean. I already said why i town read rayn with scenarios where it is IMPOSSIBLE for him to be scum, like he would be gg next day if GB is an actual doctor. And I was pretty sure yamato said I was town because it is my normal play style. CC- I was reading the nested quote, I have been townreading fidei. I want to see if you can find what is scummy about it. That post is textbook scum. I never said fideo was mafia o_O
My point exactly.
I want you to, because the proof is in that post.
I want you to find the proof.
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On September 09 2015 06:47 Fidei86 wrote:
Cake, can you please link us to the post where Yamato says he town-reads you? I just went back through his filter and I saw one post where he said "I don't like MD, therefore I don't like the Cake lynch", but that's hardly ... like a strong read.
are you fucking serious?
go read yamato's filter.
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GlowingBear (7): raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet, Alakaslam, Fidei86, scott31337, Breshke, NocturneMage, Alakaslam, boxerfred
Fidei86 (0): GlowingBear
CopCake (1): MoosyDoosy
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He said i was hard to read but now he says I am easily scum :D
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On September 09 2015 06:59 NocturneMage wrote:
anyways now I gotta sleep.
night all.
Btw i also play league,
sona/vi/orianna master race
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On September 09 2015 07:51 CopCake wrote:
He said i was hard to read but now he says I am easily scum :D
Nailed it, sir of.
Wishy washy!
Read our how to play guides, it's in there! Textbook scum.
Now suspicious of fidei. Going to look into him vs. super tomorrow. Would be nice if they'd fite but I am not one to stir up a brawl...
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On September 09 2015 06:58 NocturneMage wrote:
she didn't say much fidei but it was early but then take into account what she did with him at eod
- she voted him over n00bking, who was mislynched
- she called out gb for claiming too late
do you really think partners would do this?
Sure. It's typical mafia play to include your scum buddies as soft-scum reads early on. It's not what your reads are, it's what you do with them and how you push them. Obviously people have scum reads, and having a scum read and not pushing them is hardly a reliable mafia tell. That said, you don't get *town* cred for having your mafia buddy on your scum list. You get town cred for jumping onto a mafia wagon early, or for pinging out a mafia player early AND pushing them. That's why yamato was the NK, imo. No way he ever gets MLed after he pushes GB. It's also why I think Slam is a pretty safe townread. Even scott gets some too, although less. I don't think Cake gets very much.
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