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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 13 2015 12:53 GMT
#65
/in
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 26 2015 16:43 GMT
#667
Didn't realise this was gonna start so soon.

Reading up now.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 26 2015 18:18 GMT
#781
Can we just lynch the carriers, there's too many of them.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 26 2015 18:20 GMT
#783
On August 27 2015 02:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Where did deconduo go?


I got bored after page 22 or so and drank a bottle of wine instead
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 26 2015 18:26 GMT
#788
On August 27 2015 03:25 rsoultin wrote:
tbf, when i'm confident on

damdred
trfel
breshke
rayn
ruxxar
marv

i tend to be right to a pretty high degree? lol


How many of those are you confident about this game?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 26 2015 18:27 GMT
#791
On August 27 2015 03:26 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 03:26 deconduo wrote:
On August 27 2015 03:25 rsoultin wrote:
tbf, when i'm confident on

damdred
trfel
breshke
rayn
ruxxar
marv

i tend to be right to a pretty high degree? lol


How many of those are you confident about this game?


just marv lol >< most aren't in this game or if they are they haven't posted


Yeah just checked and its only marv and trfel in this game. Grand.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 26 2015 18:39 GMT
#795
##Vote: MoosyDoosy
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 26 2015 18:44 GMT
#798
On August 27 2015 03:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 03:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 27 2015 03:30 rsoultin wrote:
don't know him + too early lol ><

You REALLY think moosy needs us this badly as to ask that question?

-shrugs- it was a check. i town tone read deconduo because he seemed relaxed. It was a simple question that i just wanted to line up my own read with.


Hey, stop being nice. I want to tunnel someone
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 26 2015 18:46 GMT
#801
##Unvote
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 27 2015 18:05 GMT
#1447
I'm pretty sure Kesier and Moosy are town. I like the cases against Hopeless and the trfel more than the one against JAT at the moment. I'm gonna read a bit more and make a decision.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 27 2015 18:13 GMT
#1454
On August 28 2015 03:09 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 03:05 deconduo wrote:
I'm pretty sure Kesier and Moosy are town. I like the cases against Hopeless and the trfel more than the one against JAT at the moment. I'm gonna read a bit more and make a decision.


so you would only lynch between hopeless and trefl?


At the moment yeah. The case against JAT just feels the same as the case against ruxxar in TSM.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 27 2015 18:25 GMT
#1468
On August 28 2015 03:16 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 03:13 deconduo wrote:
On August 28 2015 03:09 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 28 2015 03:05 deconduo wrote:
I'm pretty sure Kesier and Moosy are town. I like the cases against Hopeless and the trfel more than the one against JAT at the moment. I'm gonna read a bit more and make a decision.


so you would only lynch between hopeless and trefl?


At the moment yeah. The case against JAT just feels the same as the case against ruxxar in TSM.


I mean why do you like the case on hopeless anyway, because wave is pushing it? do you town read him?


Nope. Mainly because he lurked just as much in TSM and was scum there. Also this is pretty unforgivable:

On August 28 2015 01:11 Hopeless1der wrote:
Oh god the spampocalypse. I was not prepared for this. I'm going to go full blazinghand and use his RNG methods while I read the thread and then yolo it.

RNG being this (post's ID)Mod13 (0=decon, 1=wave, 2=vivax etc)
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 27 2015 18:35 GMT
#1482
On August 28 2015 03:26 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 03:25 deconduo wrote:
On August 28 2015 03:16 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 28 2015 03:13 deconduo wrote:
On August 28 2015 03:09 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 28 2015 03:05 deconduo wrote:
I'm pretty sure Kesier and Moosy are town. I like the cases against Hopeless and the trfel more than the one against JAT at the moment. I'm gonna read a bit more and make a decision.


so you would only lynch between hopeless and trefl?


At the moment yeah. The case against JAT just feels the same as the case against ruxxar in TSM.


I mean why do you like the case on hopeless anyway, because wave is pushing it? do you town read him?


Nope. Mainly because he lurked just as much in TSM and was scum there. Also this is pretty unforgivable:

On August 28 2015 01:11 Hopeless1der wrote:
Oh god the spampocalypse. I was not prepared for this. I'm going to go full blazinghand and use his RNG methods while I read the thread and then yolo it.

RNG being this (post's ID)Mod13 (0=decon, 1=wave, 2=vivax etc)


hmm ok, why do you like the trefl case?



More of a feeling than anything else, mainly from the back and forth between trfel and JAT. Though I'm reading VE's filter at the moment and find myself agreeing with most of what he says as well.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 27 2015 19:23 GMT
#1502
On August 28 2015 04:21 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 04:17 boxerfred wrote:
##vote justanothertownie

^
You should probably justify this soon. At this point I have produced by far the most content in this game.


Active doesn't mean town, so that's not really a defense.

Still not a great move to vote without giving any reason.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 27 2015 19:29 GMT
#1506
On August 28 2015 04:25 justanothertownie wrote:
which I would NEVER have done as mafia


Why not? Do you have any proof of that?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 27 2015 19:30 GMT
#1507
On August 28 2015 04:28 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 04:23 deconduo wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:21 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:17 boxerfred wrote:
##vote justanothertownie

^
You should probably justify this soon. At this point I have produced by far the most content in this game.


Active doesn't mean town, so that's not really a defense.

Still not a great move to vote without giving any reason.


mhmm i thought you didn't want to lynch JAT though, so why even make this comment?



I don't, but its still not a valid defense. No reason not to point it out.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 27 2015 19:31 GMT
#1510
On August 28 2015 04:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 04:29 deconduo wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:25 justanothertownie wrote:
which I would NEVER have done as mafia


Why not? Do you have any proof of that?

Wtf is this question even? What kind of proof would you expect for that, hm?


Link to a scum game where you didn't give a shit?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 27 2015 19:36 GMT
#1519
On August 28 2015 04:33 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 04:31 deconduo wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:29 deconduo wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:25 justanothertownie wrote:
which I would NEVER have done as mafia


Why not? Do you have any proof of that?

Wtf is this question even? What kind of proof would you expect for that, hm?


Link to a scum game where you didn't give a shit?


here's how life works

you either lurk and do things later on or you post a lot of content and get to ask people to do things



I can ask him to back up a statement. He doesn't have to, but I can still ask.

And given that he's leading the current wagon it probably would be a good idea to not be so aggressive to someone who isn't currently voting for him.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 27 2015 19:43 GMT
#1527
On August 28 2015 04:38 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 04:36 deconduo wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:33 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:31 deconduo wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:29 deconduo wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:25 justanothertownie wrote:
which I would NEVER have done as mafia


Why not? Do you have any proof of that?

Wtf is this question even? What kind of proof would you expect for that, hm?


Link to a scum game where you didn't give a shit?


here's how life works

you either lurk and do things later on or you post a lot of content and get to ask people to do things



I can ask him to back up a statement. He doesn't have to, but I can still ask.

And given that he's leading the current wagon it probably would be a good idea to not be so aggressive to someone who isn't currently voting for him.

Oh yeah? Are you trying to threaten me?

lol
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 27 2015 19:57 GMT
#1546
##Vote: Hopeless1der

I'm not quite sure how no one is actually voting for him right now.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 27 2015 20:32 GMT
#1583
On August 28 2015 05:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 05:26 marvellosity wrote:
i'm gonna end up spite lynching one of hopeless and bf and it will be terrible

Well, or one of them is scum.
(or both lol)


Is there any reason to lynch BF over hopeless? Hopeless has been worse on every count as far as I can tell.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 27 2015 20:35 GMT
#1592
On August 28 2015 05:33 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 05:32 deconduo wrote:
On August 28 2015 05:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 28 2015 05:26 marvellosity wrote:
i'm gonna end up spite lynching one of hopeless and bf and it will be terrible

Well, or one of them is scum.
(or both lol)


Is there any reason to lynch BF over hopeless? Hopeless has been worse on every count as far as I can tell.


Do explain in detail, we need to consolidate. Can I warm you up for a Trfel lynch? BF and hopeless feel more craphshooty than him.


BF has more posts, Hopeless has just come from a game where he lurked as scum, and Hopeless RNGd a vote whereas at least BF jumped on the wagon at the time.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 27 2015 20:35 GMT
#1594
Though at least hopeless is here now, and posting.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 27 2015 20:56 GMT
#1627
On August 28 2015 05:54 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 05:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 28 2015 05:47 rsoultin wrote:
voting bf

found the cc read

jat talk to me about it kk cause i was just scanning and i do better realtime

what are all these inconsistencies and how do they make him mafia specifically?

Read the fucking post.


please work with me so we can consolidate -_- i've got a game i'm cohosting and this and i'm behind. surely you can get that


Then consolidate on hopeless. There's no reason to vote for BF over hopeless:

On August 28 2015 05:35 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 05:33 Vivax wrote:
On August 28 2015 05:32 deconduo wrote:
On August 28 2015 05:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 28 2015 05:26 marvellosity wrote:
i'm gonna end up spite lynching one of hopeless and bf and it will be terrible

Well, or one of them is scum.
(or both lol)


Is there any reason to lynch BF over hopeless? Hopeless has been worse on every count as far as I can tell.


Do explain in detail, we need to consolidate. Can I warm you up for a Trfel lynch? BF and hopeless feel more craphshooty than him.


BF has more posts, Hopeless has just come from a game where he lurked as scum, and Hopeless RNGd a vote whereas at least BF jumped on the wagon at the time.


Then he shows up, posts this and fucks off agian:

On August 28 2015 05:42 Hopeless1der wrote:
We should lynch Mr.CC because RNGesus said so

deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 27 2015 21:02 GMT
#1638
On August 28 2015 05:58 Vivax wrote:
Decon what happened to your Trfel read?


Nothing, but I think hopeless is a better lynch today.

On August 28 2015 06:00 rsoultin wrote:
this is literally the only read bf made all game

which granted it makes sense he votes who marv is voting so that at least can be explained but i find it fucking odd that he's read enough of the thread to have a read on marv but nothing else


Yes but at least he's given a read, which hopeless hasn't.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 27 2015 21:05 GMT
#1647
On August 28 2015 06:03 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 06:02 deconduo wrote:
On August 28 2015 05:58 Vivax wrote:
Decon what happened to your Trfel read?


Nothing, but I think hopeless is a better lynch today.

On August 28 2015 06:00 rsoultin wrote:
this is literally the only read bf made all game

which granted it makes sense he votes who marv is voting so that at least can be explained but i find it fucking odd that he's read enough of the thread to have a read on marv but nothing else


Yes but at least he's given a read, which hopeless hasn't.


so...we're judging towniness by number or reads now?

what are your reads?


Moosy town, keslier town, hopeless scum, trfle scummish. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same scumteam as in TSM given how you have been playing. Though that would take some serious trolling from BH
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 27 2015 21:07 GMT
#1651
On August 28 2015 06:06 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 06:05 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 28 2015 06:04 rsoultin wrote:
On August 28 2015 06:02 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 28 2015 06:01 rsoultin wrote:
On August 28 2015 06:00 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Moosy you really need to explain that vote before I get you lynched


not lynching moosy


Then someone needs to explain why moosy put me in his town circle, said he wasnt going to lynch me day 1 / 2 and then votes on me for no reason.


ask him


On August 28 2015 06:00 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Moosy you really need to explain that vote before I get you lynched


You literally quoted that post. C'mon Rsoultin.


lol yeah i realized that after the snap post xP

i dunnae i just know i'm not lynching him for that

decon...your issue with hopeless is specifically...rng?


1. Same meta as TSM
2. RNG'd a vote
3. Came back to the thread, posted a few things and stuck with the RNG vote.

Also add VE to the town list.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 27 2015 21:11 GMT
#1658
On August 28 2015 06:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:
##unvote
##vote rsoultin


Splitting the vote further is not a good idea with an hour to go. There are much better lynches than rsoul right now imo.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 27 2015 21:17 GMT
#1669
I'm switching to mobile, should still be around at the deadline though.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 27 2015 21:33 GMT
#1699
I'd be OK with consolidating on BF, though I still think hopeless is a better lynch. Trfel would be OK with me as well, but might be harder to get votes for.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 27 2015 21:39 GMT
#1717
On August 28 2015 06:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Wait has Hopeless done something outlandishly town since he did that RNG bullshit?


Nope, in fact he even posted a bit and then reiterated his Rng vote. Yet it seems impossible to get anyone to vote for him.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 27 2015 21:48 GMT
#1750
I still think there's a better chance of hopeless flipping scum than BF.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 29 2015 10:35 GMT
#2404
On August 28 2015 06:53 Trfel wrote:
Lynch Hopeless1der. He is much more likely to be scum than boxerfred.

Boxerfred's filter makes sense from the busy/frustrated town perspective, even if it's annoying.

Hopeless1der isn't completely clueless. He was around a lot more in the mafia QT last game than he was posting in the thread. He signed up for a large game, he confirmed for the game in reasonable time. He said he would play. He didn't. His few posts this game have been unconvincing and basically what I would expect from mafia.

I am confident that Hopeless1der is mafia, I am not confident in boxerfred.

Is this an issue of associations with my alignment, as I pushed Hopeless1der first?


If hopeless flips scum (which I'm pretty sure he will) I think this post puts trfel in the towncamp. He was one of the people actually pushing for a hopeless lynch over boxer.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 29 2015 19:56 GMT
#2474
On August 30 2015 04:41 Trfel wrote:
How about, I think that Hopeless1der is very likely to be town and would be very sad if he were lynched today.


What made you change your mind on him?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2015 16:50 GMT
#2556
I'm on the train for the next 3 hours, and I have wifi. Who is around?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2015 17:10 GMT
#2557
@Trfel, the posts below confuse me a little:

On August 28 2015 06:53 Trfel wrote:
Lynch Hopeless1der. He is much more likely to be scum than boxerfred.

Boxerfred's filter makes sense from the busy/frustrated town perspective, even if it's annoying.

Hopeless1der isn't completely clueless. He was around a lot more in the mafia QT last game than he was posting in the thread. He signed up for a large game, he confirmed for the game in reasonable time. He said he would play. He didn't. His few posts this game have been unconvincing and basically what I would expect from mafia.

I am confident that Hopeless1der is mafia, I am not confident in boxerfred.

Is this an issue of associations with my alignment, as I pushed Hopeless1der first?


Confident that Hopeless is mafia.

On August 30 2015 04:41 Trfel wrote:
How about, I think that Hopeless1der is very likely to be town and would be very sad if he were lynched today.


Wait no he's actually town.

On August 30 2015 16:33 Trfel wrote:
Because I'm not sure it's clear where I stand on everyone after all of this. "Standard" format this time, most town to most scum.

marvellosity
Palmar
MoosyDoosy
justanothertownie
Mr. Cheesecake
VisceraEyes
Hopeless1der
KelsierSC
deconduo (and yes, I know about the green check)
Vivax


Nope, back down in the scummy side again.


Given that hopeless had posted almost nothing in between these posts, what has made you change your mind so much on him?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2015 21:45 GMT
#2614
Meh. Palmar is scummier to me, but I'd nearly trust marv and VE's judgement over my own.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2015 21:50 GMT
#2628
Going with my gut.

##Vote: Palmar
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2015 21:53 GMT
#2636
##Unvote
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2015 21:54 GMT
#2643
Do we have time to switch to hopeless?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2015 21:54 GMT
#2647
#Vote: Hopeless1der
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2015 21:55 GMT
#2654
If we have masons + a cop, we don't have a vig anyway.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2015 21:57 GMT
#2662
Moosy switch to hopeless please.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2015 22:01 GMT
#2682
On August 31 2015 06:59 KelsierSC wrote:
##Vote: Hopeless1der


Fucking lol
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2015 22:03 GMT
#2685
Fuck.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2015 22:05 GMT
#2699
Well the mafia QT is going to be laughing their asses off after that one
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2015 22:06 GMT
#2708
Trfel should be vigged or policy lynched no matter what.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 31 2015 09:59 GMT
#2753
There is a very easy way to verify you are both masons together. Pick a time, and within 5 seconds of each other post both:

- The solution to a relatively complicated equation
- And the equation itself.

For example something like:


On August 31 2015 13:00 Palmar wrote:
23


On August 31 2015 13:00 Trfel wrote:
((127 * 6) + 12 - 567) / (3 + (12/2))
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 01 2015 19:50 GMT
#2969
So today has been interesting to say the least.

It seems impossible for Vivax to be town. He would almost have to be a jailkeeper, and JAT just seems like an unlikely target either for a RB or a protect. If he does actually flip town, then we have 2 easy lynches lined up in Trfel and Palmar. I don't see any good reason not to lynch Vivax and work from there.

##Vote: Vivax

More to follow in a bit.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 02 2015 18:24 GMT
#3002
On September 03 2015 03:19 Vivax wrote:
Tomorrow it's lylo if you lynch me and I am the most logical kill for mafia if you kill Kelsier, and I actually manage to stay alive if he's the roleblocker. It's NOT the most mechanical play to lynch me.


Why would mafia try to get you lynched over anyone else?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 02 2015 18:26 GMT
#3003
What value does kelsier have that mafia would give up VE to have him not be lynched today?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 02 2015 18:28 GMT
#3005
Hmm unless kelsier is mafia vig. That seems unlikely though.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 02 2015 18:33 GMT
#3012
On September 03 2015 03:02 Vivax wrote:
I'm not a trackable role.



On September 03 2015 03:30 Vivax wrote:
I have a very good reason to keep my role a secret. It leaves mafia in the dark whether I'm just a PGO or a veteran who took bribes.


These two statements directly contradict each other.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 02 2015 18:36 GMT
#3015
On September 03 2015 03:34 Vivax wrote:
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On September 03 2015 03:33 deconduo wrote:
On September 03 2015 03:02 Vivax wrote:
I'm not a trackable role.



On September 03 2015 03:30 Vivax wrote:
I have a very good reason to keep my role a secret. It leaves mafia in the dark whether I'm just a PGO or a veteran who took bribes.


These two statements directly contradict each other.


Of course cause if I don't say I'm not trackable they immediately think I'm veteran doofus


Can you hardclaim now please.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 02 2015 18:39 GMT
#3019
On September 03 2015 03:37 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2015 03:36 deconduo wrote:
On September 03 2015 03:34 Vivax wrote:
On September 03 2015 03:33 deconduo wrote:
On September 03 2015 03:02 Vivax wrote:
I'm not a trackable role.



On September 03 2015 03:30 Vivax wrote:
I have a very good reason to keep my role a secret. It leaves mafia in the dark whether I'm just a PGO or a veteran who took bribes.


These two statements directly contradict each other.


Of course cause if I don't say I'm not trackable they immediately think I'm veteran doofus


Can you hardclaim now please.


Ok I am veteran. I took bribes. I hoped they would shoot and RB me. And if you lynch me and there's a mafia vig which makes perfect sense with 2 masons and a veteran, and they probably also have a roleblocker, you lose the game tomorrow.


Yeah you are scum. If you took bribes you would know you could have visited JAT.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 02 2015 18:46 GMT
#3025
On September 03 2015 03:41 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2015 03:39 deconduo wrote:
On September 03 2015 03:37 Vivax wrote:
On September 03 2015 03:36 deconduo wrote:
On September 03 2015 03:34 Vivax wrote:
On September 03 2015 03:33 deconduo wrote:
On September 03 2015 03:02 Vivax wrote:
I'm not a trackable role.



On September 03 2015 03:30 Vivax wrote:
I have a very good reason to keep my role a secret. It leaves mafia in the dark whether I'm just a PGO or a veteran who took bribes.


These two statements directly contradict each other.


Of course cause if I don't say I'm not trackable they immediately think I'm veteran doofus


Can you hardclaim now please.


Ok I am veteran. I took bribes. I hoped they would shoot and RB me. And if you lynch me and there's a mafia vig which makes perfect sense with 2 masons and a veteran, and they probably also have a roleblocker, you lose the game tomorrow.


Yeah you are scum. If you took bribes you would know you could have visited JAT.


I don't believe VE's claim in the slightest. There's a 50% chance that I'm not even a wandering townie, he tracked me out of everyone (instead of say Kelsier - missing motive to track me at all) and he only claimed after I claimed blue.

The claim is purely agenda motivated.


What would be the point of tracking an almost confirmed scum player. Makes much more sense to track the scummiest player out of everyone else: you. It would be a completely logical decision.

You also claimed to not be a trackable role which is untrue, you don't know if you are wandering or not.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 02 2015 22:35 GMT
#3075
Random thoughts.

Vivax post mortem:
Tried to push the lynch away from JAT onto trfel
Went after WoS for changing from a townread on CC to a scumread
Tried to push the lynch off the inactives (BF and hopeless) onto trfel.
Did not mention VE at all until today.
In general pushed trfel, palmar, CC, kelsier.

Overall reflects reasonably well on CC, Vivax seemed happy enough to have him lynched. Slight FOS on JAT for Vivax trying to lead the initial wagon away from him.



Kelsier:
No reason not to lynch him tomorrow, has all but claimed mafia at this point.

VE:
Almost certainly the last scum. Cop + Tracker + 2 masons just seems very townsided. Also this:

On September 01 2015 23:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because he claimed blue so I wanted to see if he was carrying KP for his team.


Vivax only claimed blue after the day post. VE could not have known Vivax was a blue when he decided to track him.

Moosy:
His play has been erratic, but his one post at the start of the game made me peg him as town.

On August 26 2015 11:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
whew, i thought DMLE Investigator was a role and started shitting my pants until I re-looked over the OP and saw it was VT in this game.


I also had the same thing go through my head when I got my role PM. Seems unlikely that he could come up with this reaction as mafia.

JAT/CC:
In the unlikely event it does come down to lynching between these two, I'd lean towards JAT being scum over CC. Mainly due to Vivax's play as mentioned above.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 02 2015 22:50 GMT
#3079
On September 03 2015 07:42 Trfel wrote:
Assuming KelsierSC is mafia (which is a safe assumption), justanothertownie is confirmed town.

Were justanothertownie mafia (with KelsierSC and Vivax), VisceraEyes would be town, meaning that Vivax roleblocked justanothertownie. I don't think mafia would roleblock themselves in a no notification game, thus justanothertownie is 100% town if KelsierSC is mafia.


Yup. A Vivax VE JAT scumteam is a small possibility however. But then VE's claim makes even less sense as he could just sit back and let KSC get lynched today.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 03 2015 21:15 GMT
#3111
On September 04 2015 06:13 justanothertownie wrote:
Since I am the obvious kill unless mafia wants to show face by shooting a mason:

You will not even consider lynching one of the masons tomorrow. Not only are they likely town in general because of their play and how Vivax tried to lynch both of them at some point, it is also the objectively wrong play. If you lynch mafia tomorrow they become confirmed town and the game is nearly solved (this is why it is incredibly important to be right tomorrow). If you mislynch tomorrow then you can reconsider but even then I doubt they are mafia.

KSC is most likely mafia because I don't believe he is this shit as town. He would be my #1 lynch probably. VE is a likely third mafia but I am not as sure on him as I am on KSC.


Nah. they are gonna kill Palmar. Doesn't matter anyway though, this game is over.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 03 2015 21:22 GMT
#3114
On September 04 2015 06:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2015 06:15 deconduo wrote:
On September 04 2015 06:13 justanothertownie wrote:
Since I am the obvious kill unless mafia wants to show face by shooting a mason:

You will not even consider lynching one of the masons tomorrow. Not only are they likely town in general because of their play and how Vivax tried to lynch both of them at some point, it is also the objectively wrong play. If you lynch mafia tomorrow they become confirmed town and the game is nearly solved (this is why it is incredibly important to be right tomorrow). If you mislynch tomorrow then you can reconsider but even then I doubt they are mafia.

KSC is most likely mafia because I don't believe he is this shit as town. He would be my #1 lynch probably. VE is a likely third mafia but I am not as sure on him as I am on KSC.


Nah. they are gonna kill Palmar. Doesn't matter anyway though, this game is over.

Spoken like the hidden Godfather this town deserves.


Sure thing
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 03 2015 22:23 GMT
#3119
No daypost?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 03 2015 22:37 GMT
#3122
##Vote: KelsierSC
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 05 2015 19:27 GMT
#3178
On September 05 2015 21:56 justanothertownie wrote:
So, I won't be here for deadline -> pub tour, but I guess the way this looks it isn't a problem. Just make sure to kill this guy. I don't expect him to pull any last ditch effort like Vivax did but if he does - ignore it.


Eh, kels isn't even voting so that pretty much sums up his attitude. I'm not sure what happened, he was active and contributing and just completely turned off for some reason.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 05 2015 19:57 GMT
#3181
On September 06 2015 04:39 KelsierSC wrote:
Going with my gut


And clearly reading the thread
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 05 2015 22:03 GMT
#3184
GG.

I think it was a pretty balanced setup.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 05 2015 22:29 GMT
#3188
That mafia QT though

I think given how you pegged tfel and palmar as masons, I wonder what the game would have been like if you killed them both n1.
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