EPTTL Mafia LXXII: Gaiden 2
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On August 27 2015 02:37 MoosyDoosy wrote: Where did deconduo go? I got bored after page 22 or so and drank a bottle of wine instead  | ||
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On August 27 2015 03:25 rsoultin wrote: tbf, when i'm confident on damdred trfel breshke rayn ruxxar marv i tend to be right to a pretty high degree? lol How many of those are you confident about this game? | ||
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On August 27 2015 03:26 rsoultin wrote: just marv lol >< most aren't in this game or if they are they haven't posted Yeah just checked and its only marv and trfel in this game. Grand. | ||
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On August 27 2015 03:43 MoosyDoosy wrote: -shrugs- it was a check. i town tone read deconduo because he seemed relaxed. It was a simple question that i just wanted to line up my own read with. Hey, stop being nice. I want to tunnel someone  | ||
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On August 28 2015 03:09 KelsierSC wrote: so you would only lynch between hopeless and trefl? At the moment yeah. The case against JAT just feels the same as the case against ruxxar in TSM. | ||
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On August 28 2015 03:16 KelsierSC wrote: I mean why do you like the case on hopeless anyway, because wave is pushing it? do you town read him? Nope. Mainly because he lurked just as much in TSM and was scum there. Also this is pretty unforgivable: On August 28 2015 01:11 Hopeless1der wrote: Oh god the spampocalypse. I was not prepared for this. I'm going to go full blazinghand and use his RNG methods while I read the thread and then yolo it. RNG being this (post's ID)Mod13 (0=decon, 1=wave, 2=vivax etc) | ||
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More of a feeling than anything else, mainly from the back and forth between trfel and JAT. Though I'm reading VE's filter at the moment and find myself agreeing with most of what he says as well. | ||
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On August 28 2015 04:21 justanothertownie wrote: ^ You should probably justify this soon. At this point I have produced by far the most content in this game. Active doesn't mean town, so that's not really a defense. Still not a great move to vote without giving any reason. | ||
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On August 28 2015 04:25 justanothertownie wrote: which I would NEVER have done as mafia Why not? Do you have any proof of that? | ||
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On August 28 2015 04:28 KelsierSC wrote: mhmm i thought you didn't want to lynch JAT though, so why even make this comment? I don't, but its still not a valid defense. No reason not to point it out. | ||
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On August 28 2015 04:30 justanothertownie wrote: Wtf is this question even? What kind of proof would you expect for that, hm? Link to a scum game where you didn't give a shit? | ||
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On August 28 2015 04:33 KelsierSC wrote: here's how life works you either lurk and do things later on or you post a lot of content and get to ask people to do things I can ask him to back up a statement. He doesn't have to, but I can still ask. And given that he's leading the current wagon it probably would be a good idea to not be so aggressive to someone who isn't currently voting for him. | ||
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On August 28 2015 04:38 justanothertownie wrote: Oh yeah? Are you trying to threaten me? lol | ||
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I'm not quite sure how no one is actually voting for him right now. | ||
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On August 28 2015 05:29 WaveofShadow wrote: Well, or one of them is scum. (or both lol) Is there any reason to lynch BF over hopeless? Hopeless has been worse on every count as far as I can tell. | ||
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On August 28 2015 05:33 Vivax wrote: Do explain in detail, we need to consolidate. Can I warm you up for a Trfel lynch? BF and hopeless feel more craphshooty than him. BF has more posts, Hopeless has just come from a game where he lurked as scum, and Hopeless RNGd a vote whereas at least BF jumped on the wagon at the time. | ||
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On August 28 2015 05:54 rsoultin wrote: please work with me so we can consolidate -_- i've got a game i'm cohosting and this and i'm behind. surely you can get that Then consolidate on hopeless. There's no reason to vote for BF over hopeless: On August 28 2015 05:35 deconduo wrote: BF has more posts, Hopeless has just come from a game where he lurked as scum, and Hopeless RNGd a vote whereas at least BF jumped on the wagon at the time. Then he shows up, posts this and fucks off agian: On August 28 2015 05:42 Hopeless1der wrote: We should lynch Mr.CC because RNGesus said so | ||
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On August 28 2015 05:58 Vivax wrote: Decon what happened to your Trfel read? Nothing, but I think hopeless is a better lynch today. On August 28 2015 06:00 rsoultin wrote: this is literally the only read bf made all game which granted it makes sense he votes who marv is voting so that at least can be explained but i find it fucking odd that he's read enough of the thread to have a read on marv but nothing else Yes but at least he's given a read, which hopeless hasn't. | ||
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On August 28 2015 06:03 rsoultin wrote: so...we're judging towniness by number or reads now? what are your reads? Moosy town, keslier town, hopeless scum, trfle scummish. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same scumteam as in TSM given how you have been playing. Though that would take some serious trolling from BH | ||
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On August 28 2015 06:06 rsoultin wrote: lol yeah i realized that after the snap post xP i dunnae i just know i'm not lynching him for that decon...your issue with hopeless is specifically...rng? 1. Same meta as TSM 2. RNG'd a vote 3. Came back to the thread, posted a few things and stuck with the RNG vote. Also add VE to the town list. | ||
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On August 28 2015 06:09 MoosyDoosy wrote: ##unvote ##vote rsoultin Splitting the vote further is not a good idea with an hour to go. There are much better lynches than rsoul right now imo. | ||
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On August 28 2015 06:37 VisceraEyes wrote: Wait has Hopeless done something outlandishly town since he did that RNG bullshit? Nope, in fact he even posted a bit and then reiterated his Rng vote. Yet it seems impossible to get anyone to vote for him. | ||
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On August 28 2015 06:53 Trfel wrote: Lynch Hopeless1der. He is much more likely to be scum than boxerfred. Boxerfred's filter makes sense from the busy/frustrated town perspective, even if it's annoying. Hopeless1der isn't completely clueless. He was around a lot more in the mafia QT last game than he was posting in the thread. He signed up for a large game, he confirmed for the game in reasonable time. He said he would play. He didn't. His few posts this game have been unconvincing and basically what I would expect from mafia. I am confident that Hopeless1der is mafia, I am not confident in boxerfred. Is this an issue of associations with my alignment, as I pushed Hopeless1der first? If hopeless flips scum (which I'm pretty sure he will) I think this post puts trfel in the towncamp. He was one of the people actually pushing for a hopeless lynch over boxer. | ||
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On August 30 2015 04:41 Trfel wrote: How about, I think that Hopeless1der is very likely to be town and would be very sad if he were lynched today. What made you change your mind on him? | ||
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On August 28 2015 06:53 Trfel wrote: Lynch Hopeless1der. He is much more likely to be scum than boxerfred. Boxerfred's filter makes sense from the busy/frustrated town perspective, even if it's annoying. Hopeless1der isn't completely clueless. He was around a lot more in the mafia QT last game than he was posting in the thread. He signed up for a large game, he confirmed for the game in reasonable time. He said he would play. He didn't. His few posts this game have been unconvincing and basically what I would expect from mafia. I am confident that Hopeless1der is mafia, I am not confident in boxerfred. Is this an issue of associations with my alignment, as I pushed Hopeless1der first? Confident that Hopeless is mafia. On August 30 2015 04:41 Trfel wrote: How about, I think that Hopeless1der is very likely to be town and would be very sad if he were lynched today. Wait no he's actually town. On August 30 2015 16:33 Trfel wrote: Because I'm not sure it's clear where I stand on everyone after all of this. "Standard" format this time, most town to most scum. marvellosity Palmar MoosyDoosy justanothertownie Mr. Cheesecake VisceraEyes Hopeless1der KelsierSC deconduo (and yes, I know about the green check) Vivax Nope, back down in the scummy side again. Given that hopeless had posted almost nothing in between these posts, what has made you change your mind so much on him? | ||
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##Vote: Palmar | ||
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On August 31 2015 06:59 KelsierSC wrote: ##Vote: Hopeless1der Fucking lol | ||
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- The solution to a relatively complicated equation - And the equation itself. For example something like: On August 31 2015 13:00 Palmar wrote: 23 On August 31 2015 13:00 Trfel wrote: ((127 * 6) + 12 - 567) / (3 + (12/2)) | ||
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It seems impossible for Vivax to be town. He would almost have to be a jailkeeper, and JAT just seems like an unlikely target either for a RB or a protect. If he does actually flip town, then we have 2 easy lynches lined up in Trfel and Palmar. I don't see any good reason not to lynch Vivax and work from there. ##Vote: Vivax More to follow in a bit. | ||
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On September 03 2015 03:19 Vivax wrote: Tomorrow it's lylo if you lynch me and I am the most logical kill for mafia if you kill Kelsier, and I actually manage to stay alive if he's the roleblocker. It's NOT the most mechanical play to lynch me. Why would mafia try to get you lynched over anyone else? | ||
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On September 03 2015 03:02 Vivax wrote: I'm not a trackable role. On September 03 2015 03:30 Vivax wrote: I have a very good reason to keep my role a secret. It leaves mafia in the dark whether I'm just a PGO or a veteran who took bribes. These two statements directly contradict each other. | ||
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On September 03 2015 03:34 Vivax wrote: Of course cause if I don't say I'm not trackable they immediately think I'm veteran doofus Can you hardclaim now please. | ||
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On September 03 2015 03:37 Vivax wrote: Ok I am veteran. I took bribes. I hoped they would shoot and RB me. And if you lynch me and there's a mafia vig which makes perfect sense with 2 masons and a veteran, and they probably also have a roleblocker, you lose the game tomorrow. Yeah you are scum. If you took bribes you would know you could have visited JAT. | ||
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On September 03 2015 03:41 Vivax wrote: I don't believe VE's claim in the slightest. There's a 50% chance that I'm not even a wandering townie, he tracked me out of everyone (instead of say Kelsier - missing motive to track me at all) and he only claimed after I claimed blue. The claim is purely agenda motivated. What would be the point of tracking an almost confirmed scum player. Makes much more sense to track the scummiest player out of everyone else: you. It would be a completely logical decision. You also claimed to not be a trackable role which is untrue, you don't know if you are wandering or not. | ||
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Vivax post mortem: Tried to push the lynch away from JAT onto trfel Went after WoS for changing from a townread on CC to a scumread Tried to push the lynch off the inactives (BF and hopeless) onto trfel. Did not mention VE at all until today. In general pushed trfel, palmar, CC, kelsier. Overall reflects reasonably well on CC, Vivax seemed happy enough to have him lynched. Slight FOS on JAT for Vivax trying to lead the initial wagon away from him. Kelsier: No reason not to lynch him tomorrow, has all but claimed mafia at this point. VE: Almost certainly the last scum. Cop + Tracker + 2 masons just seems very townsided. Also this: On September 01 2015 23:28 VisceraEyes wrote: Because he claimed blue so I wanted to see if he was carrying KP for his team. Vivax only claimed blue after the day post. VE could not have known Vivax was a blue when he decided to track him. Moosy: His play has been erratic, but his one post at the start of the game made me peg him as town. On August 26 2015 11:20 MoosyDoosy wrote: whew, i thought DMLE Investigator was a role and started shitting my pants until I re-looked over the OP and saw it was VT in this game. I also had the same thing go through my head when I got my role PM. Seems unlikely that he could come up with this reaction as mafia. JAT/CC: In the unlikely event it does come down to lynching between these two, I'd lean towards JAT being scum over CC. Mainly due to Vivax's play as mentioned above. | ||
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On September 03 2015 07:42 Trfel wrote: Assuming KelsierSC is mafia (which is a safe assumption), justanothertownie is confirmed town. Were justanothertownie mafia (with KelsierSC and Vivax), VisceraEyes would be town, meaning that Vivax roleblocked justanothertownie. I don't think mafia would roleblock themselves in a no notification game, thus justanothertownie is 100% town if KelsierSC is mafia. Yup. A Vivax VE JAT scumteam is a small possibility however. But then VE's claim makes even less sense as he could just sit back and let KSC get lynched today. | ||
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On September 04 2015 06:13 justanothertownie wrote: Since I am the obvious kill unless mafia wants to show face by shooting a mason: You will not even consider lynching one of the masons tomorrow. Not only are they likely town in general because of their play and how Vivax tried to lynch both of them at some point, it is also the objectively wrong play. If you lynch mafia tomorrow they become confirmed town and the game is nearly solved (this is why it is incredibly important to be right tomorrow). If you mislynch tomorrow then you can reconsider but even then I doubt they are mafia. KSC is most likely mafia because I don't believe he is this shit as town. He would be my #1 lynch probably. VE is a likely third mafia but I am not as sure on him as I am on KSC. Nah. they are gonna kill Palmar. Doesn't matter anyway though, this game is over. | ||
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On September 04 2015 06:16 VisceraEyes wrote: Spoken like the hidden Godfather this town deserves. Sure thing | ||
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On September 05 2015 21:56 justanothertownie wrote: So, I won't be here for deadline -> pub tour, but I guess the way this looks it isn't a problem. Just make sure to kill this guy. I don't expect him to pull any last ditch effort like Vivax did but if he does - ignore it. Eh, kels isn't even voting so that pretty much sums up his attitude. I'm not sure what happened, he was active and contributing and just completely turned off for some reason. | ||
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On September 06 2015 04:39 KelsierSC wrote: Going with my gut And clearly reading the thread | ||
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I think it was a pretty balanced setup. | ||
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 I think given how you pegged tfel and palmar as masons, I wonder what the game would have been like if you killed them both n1. | ||
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