TL Mafia LXXII: Gaiden 2 - Page 42

On August 27 2015 06:44 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, I thought you taught MoosyDoosy how to play mafia?

Clearly you haven't done a very good job

On August 27 2015 06:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
JAT I need your top scumread. I could lynch you because I think you are being objectively scummy by sulking that Palmar is being a meanie pants. So if you're town please brush yourself off and behind anew like a phoenix rising from it's ashes. Produce all that content that others are not providing.

On August 27 2015 04:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:


This post makes Wave scum. Specifically, the text in bold. Wave comes back to the thread to see the popular scum-candidate JAT sitting on a wagon driven by Palmar. His read takes no consideration for JAT's actions this game. In fact, he says he respects Palmar's play enough on day 1 to sheep him without regard.

Wave claims that he has gained some confidence in his play. If wave truly has gained confidence in his play (I.E. reads), then why is he letting Palmar, who may very well be mafia or just plain wrong about JAT, decide the lynch for him? Wave is blindly assuming that Palmar is town and correct without A) Assessing the lynch candidates motivations / actions and B) Looking at Palmar's push in and of itself. He doesn't even quote a post by Palmar and agree with the reasons.

##Vote: Wave



JAT hits the nail on the head here. Wave's defense against this is basically "I'm better than this", which I find lazy. Regardless, Wave still fails to situate why he thinks Palmar's case is good.



When Wave extrapolates upon how Palmar plays, he admits that Palmar's early reads are 'just 'cause' and may/may not be accurate.

How can Wave seriously think JAT is his top scumread / top vote for the day if he: 1) Has not evaluated JAT's actions, or explained why Palmar's case is good 2) Knows that Palmar's early reads are often 'just cause' 3) Is not sure of Palmar's alignment? It makes no sense to me. Palmar may have caught Wave as scum day 1 in another game and he respects him, but this course of action is scummy regardless of how you package it. It's incredibly convenient if JAT flips town, and then Wave can take no responsibility for the lynch.

All I want you to answer @WaveofShadow:

Why is Palmar's case good. Not Rsoultin's, or anyone else's, but Palmar's case. What does Palmar say that is convincing and makes the case against JAT generate a "fairly decent read"?

On August 27 2015 02:55 rsoultin wrote:


ye i just don't see that point in context at all. out-of-context, sure. and to tout it as the "best point in the thread" this late in the game is at best deluded, imo

ye, i'll admit, i was curious about who he was scumreading for jumping on his wagon but in the end i don't know how alignment indicative it is and i'm really curious about his CC read cause it's either really awful or actually somewhat townie lol >< but he hasn't clarified what he meant so i can't say one way or the other

On August 27 2015 02:50 rsoultin wrote:
meh so like

the semi-townie thing on jat i dunnae actually was townie tbh

he's kind of a bully when he's caught as scum, in that he just flails around, and i'm not seeing anything particularly brilliant to make me think he's actually town here. did anyone else see something that would counter that impression?

ftr, what i expect from a jat is essentially

agreement sometimes with no elaboration, sometimes with an extra point that introduces a new perspective
or
disagreement and why that's fairly well-reasoned

instead i see a lot of flailing and a refusal to admit that his push on truffle isn't good or an attempt to revisit that section and see if he was wrong/prove that i'm wrong about the context of truffle's comment

On August 27 2015 06:58 justanothertownie wrote:

Haha, you are a funny one. Weren't you the guy harddefending me earlier? And now you want to lynch me for being "objectively scummy" even though I wasn't even in the thread since then? It's midnight, I am drunk and I have to get up early tomorrow. If you think I will put any serious effort in right now you are delusional.

On August 27 2015 06:56 KelsierSC wrote:


trfel...don't know how caught up you are but you need to explain , in detail, what you meant about "waiting to hear palmar's thoughts about marv"

On August 27 2015 07:15 rsoultin wrote:
^ obvious

now

do something jat

On August 27 2015 07:16 rsoultin wrote:
also explain

constructed posts as "too clean"?

On August 27 2015 07:19 justanothertownie wrote:

No. Too clean basically means "too correct"/"too reasonable".

On August 27 2015 07:18 justanothertownie wrote:

**** you. You go do something. Of course that's the obvious thing Trfel would say but that still is NO reason to say it in the first place.

On August 27 2015 07:20 rsoultin wrote:


too correct in what way?

On August 27 2015 02:14 Palmar wrote:
moosy seems to get people mixed up easily.

I think that is irrelevant and at best slightly townie (doesn't worry too much about mistakes).

On August 27 2015 07:21 justanothertownie wrote:

Are you really this stupid or are you playing it?

On August 27 2015 02:29 KelsierSC wrote:


fine i'll go read it properly

i get off on cheesecakes posting , it actually makes sense when I read it

On August 27 2015 07:21 rsoultin wrote:


disagree. not gonna talk about it anymore on the off-chance you're town and just being stubborn

On August 27 2015 07:25 marvellosity wrote:

that's why i can't shake the feeling he might be mafia. jat's clean post comment is quite close to the mark as well. dnoooo

On August 27 2015 07:25 justanothertownie wrote:

Of course you won't because you don't have any argument in this case. There was 0 reason to post this for Trfel besides to have posted something.