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[M][T] The New Personality Mafia

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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 06 2015 09:47 GMT
#6
Seems super fun!

/in
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 12 2015 10:51 GMT
#85
Sweet (= when does it start ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 19 2015 07:54 GMT
#465
Summary of the game:
- people being stupid
- RNG shit with hidden variable not being RNG
- people being stupid
- HTS not being stupid

agreeing with her on ruxx.
##Vote ruxxar
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 19 2015 09:19 GMT
#468
On August 19 2015 18:16 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 16:54 Rels wrote:
Summary of the game:
- people being stupid
- RNG shit with hidden variable not being RNG
- people being stupid
- HTS not being stupid

agreeing with her on ruxx.
##Vote ruxxar


At least you're being consistent

You know you are supposed to roleplay someone else than yourself
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 19 2015 09:22 GMT
#470
On August 19 2015 18:19 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 16:54 Rels wrote:
Summary of the game:
- people being stupid
- RNG shit with hidden variable not being RNG
- people being stupid
- HTS not being stupid

agreeing with her on ruxx.
##Vote ruxxar


Got it, everything in this game thus far is just stupid except for the "RNG" and these two posts

Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 12:33 Half the Sky wrote:
On August 19 2015 07:07 ruXxar wrote:
Hi.


On August 19 2015 07:09 ruXxar wrote:
On August 19 2015 07:08 Damdred wrote:
There once was a man named Damdred, he moved outside town one day and never turned back.

Monsters everywhere red blue and black. The hangman noose he feared the most all,he wanted was his friends but who would,be his friend? Would it be you or maybe you?
Would geript be,his friend?


LOL


On August 19 2015 07:12 ruXxar wrote:
On August 19 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote:
Clearly what needs to happen this game is that we need to follow the most surefire way to lynch mafia and win games, and that is to follow the RNG lynch.

Here's how it works:

1) you will all follow me because i am better than you.

2) i will choose who we lynch every phase via RNG, then we will lynch him without question. the RNG will be determined by this post (the one you're reading right now). each post is assigned a unique id on team liquid which cannot be manipulated because of the rate of posts on TL; this makes it the perfect candidate for determining people via RNG. then from that post id i will use the following formula to determine whom is the candidate for lynch:

(sum of each individual digit in the post id [ex: 1111 = 4]) / 21 [number of players alive in game] * coefficient of the thread's stupidity

this formula will provide a number from 1 to 21, we will lynch the player it determines without hesitation or questioning. no possible explanation or reasoning could convince me that RNG lynching is in any way sub-optimal play. please bow before the RNG and watch it carry us to victory.


I no believe this good idea.
what if you roll me o_O


Scum.

ruXxar is totes scum.

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On August 19 2015 12:34 Half the Sky wrote:
I mean what is that shit. Even LS says/does more than that shit as town.

##vote ruXxar


I can't tell if you have a legit read on ruxx yourself or if you are actually sheeping the case that ruxx is not meeting the town meta of LS.

To be fair, I haven't made much effort to read ruxx atm I just think that the 2 posts HtS made about him are weak and I don't get why you like them so much.

I thought that was clear though maybe it's too complex for you.
I think ruxxar is scummy.
I think HTS' post about ruxxar are good.

Maybe I'll expand on ruxxar if people cannot see the obvious. Not now though, I'm working.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 19 2015 09:23 GMT
#471
On August 19 2015 18:21 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 18:19 Rels wrote:
On August 19 2015 18:16 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 19 2015 16:54 Rels wrote:
Summary of the game:
- people being stupid
- RNG shit with hidden variable not being RNG
- people being stupid
- HTS not being stupid

agreeing with her on ruxx.
##Vote ruxxar


At least you're being consistent

You know you are supposed to roleplay someone else than yourself


Wow thanks I wasn't aware of the entire point of the game, I feel enlightened

No prob mate
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 19 2015 09:30 GMT
#474
On August 19 2015 18:26 ritoky wrote:
While awoken by a screaming baby at 2:30 am, I felt the compulsion to refresh everyone on what they should be doing right now. There is nothing in the thread more compelling than this, anyone not voting for fidei should explain why who they are voting for has a greater than 30% chance of being mafia; and why fidei isn't mafia when clearly RNG has shown such.

Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 10:18 ritoky wrote:
We should lynch Fidei

After reviewing the game, I have arrived at the same place. Fidei is the best candidate for lynch both objectively and subjectively.

The Objective Case:

RNG has selected fidei, he is mafia. If you need an explanation of how he was selected please reference my filter. Outside of that RNG is PARTICULARLY suited for this game. This is a closed setup, and historically in closed setups there is an incredibly strong likelihood that there are more anti-town players than are normally in an open setup. So with that alone our probability of hitting mafia from RNG has already increased by a significant margin. However, there is more. We are playing a game in which people are attempting to act like other people and mask their own play as someone else's. This means that day 1 reads and particularly day 1 meta reads have a diminished rate of accuracy. Meaning RNG is the optimal line of play. A situation with increased odds of hitting mafia and diminished validity of meta reads clearly points to RNG being the objective best line of play.

The Subjective Case:

Outside of RNG declaring fidei mafia, he is actually mafia. Consider his posting thus far:

On August 19 2015 08:33 Fidei86 wrote:
Ritoky, I can't get a read on you and usually we soul read each other. I think that basically means you're confirmed mafia, because if I can't read you then it means you're mafia, and usually we can tell each other's read a scarily uncanny amount of the time. Also, pushing scum doesn't make me mafia, it makes me town. Come on people.

[serious]This game started while I was out with friends, and am currently quite toasty. Will read tomorrow and revert.[/serious]


There are 3 aspects to this post that I would like to highlight:

1) The most classic mafia play ever: "Notice me senpai -> excuse about activity". His final sentence has no point other than to say hi I am here and fade away.

2) He is drunk or at least partially. This is important because drunk people are more prone to letting slip things or not being careful with their wording. Will be revisited later.

3) His immediate entrance response into the thread is to seek out me and essentially claim a personality to me in a very half-assed manner. First and foremost there is not point to this because he knows who I am and once RNG has declared him mafia, appeals to emotion are pointless only hard logic can deter me. Secondly, it may be coincidence but singling out the only person calling him mafia and appealing to them directly reads as an over-response to pressure. And finally the half-assed imitation. This will require some explanation.

I think people who are committing heavily to trying to act the part of the player they got rolled into and are sticking to it for a decent portion of time are very likely to be town. I feel that it is a risky play to play in a manner unlike yourself and in one that could potentially draw lynch attention to you for not playing "serious". Mafia are averse to both risk and lynch pressure on day 1, and thus would be less apt to fully commit to acting the part of someone else. I do not necessarily read legitimate frustration with the game type or completely ignoring who you rolled as scum though, I don't think the converse works. However, the half-ass attempts read as scum to me because it seems as if it is a mere "LOL"/attention grab for a few moments for them or a tool to further their agenda. This is the area fidei falls into in my mind.

Continuing on, and credit to Tubesock on the find here:

On August 19 2015 08:51 Fidei86 wrote:
The person who has Chezinu should be pretty obvious, and they haven't revealed themselves yet.


On August 19 2015 09:00 Fidei86 wrote:
The only Chezinu I have been exposed to is the Onegu version of Chezinu. No hate because I haven't seen the true Chezuinu in action.


On August 19 2015 09:09 Tubesock wrote:
On August 19 2015 09:00 Fidei86 wrote:
The only Chezinu I have been exposed to is the Onegu version of Chezinu. No hate because I haven't seen the true Chezuinu in action.


Then what was the purpose of your Chezinu is obvious and no one's outed yet post?

Seems to many in the thread that Damdred is obviously Chezinu...


This goes hand in hand with point #2 from above, that fidei is drunk. He made an obvious error that speaks for itself. I can elaborate further, but I feel these consecutive quotes are very self explanatory. Not only did tubesock find it important but so did others:

On August 19 2015 09:10 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 19 2015 09:09 Tubesock wrote:
On August 19 2015 09:00 Fidei86 wrote:
The only Chezinu I have been exposed to is the Onegu version of Chezinu. No hate because I haven't seen the true Chezuinu in action.


Then what was the purpose of your Chezinu is obvious and no one's outed yet post?

Seems to many in the thread that Damdred is obviously Chezinu...


super important question


On August 19 2015 09:12 ruXxar wrote:
On August 19 2015 09:09 Tubesock wrote:
On August 19 2015 09:00 Fidei86 wrote:
The only Chezinu I have been exposed to is the Onegu version of Chezinu. No hate because I haven't seen the true Chezuinu in action.


Then what was the purpose of your Chezinu is obvious and no one's outed yet post?

Seems to many in the thread that Damdred is obviously Chezinu...


^


And what was fidei's response to this important question?

On August 19 2015 09:18 Fidei86 wrote:
Assuming at some point that that will stop and this will revert to a regular mafia game?


Ignoring it and complaining. I hate to break it to you, but this is a regular mafia game already, and this is a real accusation; and you really are mafia.

Fidei is objectively and subjectively the best lynch in the game, anyone not voting for him is taking a sub-optimal line of play and is bad.


Back to bed. The truth is like a warm glass of milk.

RNG part is stupid. You RNG formula is not public.

The other part is good though. ruxxar asking tons of questions and doing nothing is scummier I think. Would be happy with the both of them.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 19 2015 16:04 GMT
#512
On August 19 2015 23:44 Half the Sky wrote:
Rels town lean.

Other than ruXxar, what about Fidei, Tubesock, ritoky?

pretty sure fidei is scum. His big post is him knowing he screwed up and fixing it
no idea on tubesock
townread on ritoki, for the good post on fidei, not for the stupid RNG shit
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 07:54 GMT
#758
hello

don't have time to play so will sheep my town reads ritoky, geript, HTS, TT, JJ, OWS
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:04 GMT
#760
tubesock comes back and
- attacks fidei
- defends himself
- leaves

In addition to the other shit (voting easy targets) I think he's scum. That would mean fidei is probably not scum though
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:27 GMT
#767
On August 20 2015 17:17 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm the townies town in the game, people scum reading me are scum or bad town.

yeah only smart townies could see such obvious townieness from your filter
guess I'm not smart
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:30 GMT
#769
On August 20 2015 17:28 Fidei86 wrote:
The thing that stands out to me most is that his town list is basically identical to mine.
...
So now I'm thinking Tube is probably town.

wow
that's stupid
you can't possibly think that
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:33 GMT
#772
##Unvote
##Vote Fidei86
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:35 GMT
#774
On August 20 2015 17:33 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 17:30 Rels wrote:
On August 20 2015 17:28 Fidei86 wrote:
The thing that stands out to me most is that his town list is basically identical to mine.
...
So now I'm thinking Tube is probably town.

wow
that's stupid
you can't possibly think that

Having aligned views has been a reasonable town indicator, based on my experience, which is limited. Happy to be educated if you don't agree. But with so much lurking and bad play going on, it seems like bad play to tunnel someone who actually seems to be reading the game somewhat similarly to me, surely?

ofc mafia are going to townread some town
the fact that he has townreads and almost no scumreads is scum indicative
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:39 GMT
#775
fidei + tubesock scumteam
only meaningful posts from tubesock comes from discussion with fidei
tubesocks does nothing except naming some townreads and defending from fidei, goes to sleep
then fidei townreads him
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:48 GMT
#778
On August 20 2015 17:43 Fidei86 wrote:
(1) has totally unguarded, and in hindsight, pretty dumb thread entry

Yes new (stupid) scum does just that.
On August 20 2015 17:43 Fidei86 wrote:
(2) doesn't scum read Rux immediately, who is the clear alternative wagon here and is being pushed by at least some of my town reads

Yes new (stupid) scum does just that.
On August 20 2015 17:43 Fidei86 wrote:
3) doesn't try to jump enthusiastically onto the Tube wagon, which, as you said yourself literally a couple of minutes ago, would serve to pretty much exonerate me

No. Doing that if you're mafia and tubesock is town is super stupid. Hence why I think you're a team.
On August 20 2015 17:43 Fidei86 wrote:
All that in a meta where lurkers do not get punished and indeed get a free pass (not just in this game, it happens in pretty much all my games here).

But contrary to all those lurkers, you are a lynch candidate today. It's garanteed that if you didn't post for 24 hours you would be the lynch.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:50 GMT
#780
now that I explained why your tubesock's townread is stupid, do you reconsider ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:52 GMT
#782
'cause I think tubesock is mafia
more than I think you are mafia
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:55 GMT
#783
On August 20 2015 17:51 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 17:48 Rels wrote:
On August 20 2015 17:43 Fidei86 wrote:
(1) has totally unguarded, and in hindsight, pretty dumb thread entry

Yes new (stupid) scum does just that.
On August 20 2015 17:43 Fidei86 wrote:
(2) doesn't scum read Rux immediately, who is the clear alternative wagon here and is being pushed by at least some of my town reads

Yes new (stupid) scum does just that.
On August 20 2015 17:43 Fidei86 wrote:
3) doesn't try to jump enthusiastically onto the Tube wagon, which, as you said yourself literally a couple of minutes ago, would serve to pretty much exonerate me

No. Doing that if you're mafia and tubesock is town is super stupid. Hence why I think you're a team.
On August 20 2015 17:43 Fidei86 wrote:
All that in a meta where lurkers do not get punished and indeed get a free pass (not just in this game, it happens in pretty much all my games here).

But contrary to all those lurkers, you are a lynch candidate today. It's garanteed that if you didn't post for 24 hours you would be the lynch.

The "push" on me started with ritoky's stupid RNG thing. If I'd just posted questions, a couple of town reads and generally not done anything, it would have fizzled out.

And none of your reasoning above excludes stupid town, except the bit where you say I have to be town if Tube is scum, which you think he is, but then you think we're on a team? Tube was on me from the start, and has only been pushing me basically - he has no other scum reads. If this is a bus strategy then it has started super early. I've never rolled mafia or seen a super early bus strat, but it doesn't seem smart to me. Why give up a teammate this early for 'cred' in a big game where it will all be forgotten immediately anyway?

this is a stupid question, are you shitting the thread intentionally ?
there are lots of avantages to mafias attacking each other: they have something to talk about (only real discussion tubesock had was with you), if one flips the other gains towncred, and both tube and you do not really have the power to get the other killed, so it could be all fake activity
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:59 GMT
#786
I think you're scummy. Didn't like the fact that you attacked ritoky when drunk (so you read the thread) but didn't know Damdred was Chezinu (so you didn't read the thread).
read the thread + didn't read the thread = someone told you you were attacked = guy with a QT = probably mafia

I think tubesock is mafia though
##Unvote
##Vote Tubesock
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 09:01 GMT
#787
plus I feel like you're pocketing me with niceness
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 09:09 GMT
#790
On August 20 2015 00:34 JudgeJudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 00:24 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 19 2015 14:41 Tubesock wrote:
I like that Judge is trying to start a conversation. But then dropped off after Breshke responded to her.

I disagree with her on Breshke. I think what he saw makes him town not scummy. And I don't get half her townreads.


What is this? How is she trying to start a conversation by posting asinine walls of text that have nothing to do with the game? you are bad.


[image loading]

lol walls of text? There was one flavor intro post longer than a couple lines and that is literally it.

At least I've given a few opinions, unlike someone....

this is good

VA post was very wrong. Again in response to tubesock though
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 09:11 GMT
#793
On August 20 2015 18:07 Fidei86 wrote:
I dunno, what's the difference between that and just being nice / trying to work with you to find scum? I guess pocketing would be an agenda, whereas being nice is just spontaneous. I'll leave it to you to think about which it is.

true that you were nice to everybody
except to KSC
not that he doesn't deserve all of your hate
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 09:14 GMT
#794
On August 20 2015 18:10 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 17:59 Rels wrote:
I think you're scummy. Didn't like the fact that you attacked ritoky when drunk (so you read the thread) but didn't know Damdred was Chezinu (so you didn't read the thread).
read the thread + didn't read the thread = someone told you you were attacked = guy with a QT = probably mafia

I think tubesock is mafia though
##Unvote
##Vote Tubesock


I'm either lazy or not reading properly, possibly both

Can you recap why you think Tube is mafia for me?

second time you're asking me that
tubesock is mafia because:
- voted easy target at the beginning of the game
- asks questions and does nothing afterwards
- only has townreads
- has no content
- came back, attacked fidei / defended himself, then left
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 21:17 GMT
#1020
Caught up. Still think tubesock is mafia. Ruxx maybe too. Happy to lynch a lurker if that's the new thing but I prefer tube or ruxx.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 21:53 GMT
#1105
OK with that ruxx switch
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 21:56 GMT
#1116
On August 21 2015 06:54 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 06:53 Rels wrote:
OK with that ruxx switch


Where the bloody hell have you been? >_<

Eating
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 21:57 GMT
#1121
Is ff saving ruxx after the switches
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 21:59 GMT
#1137
So many people fighting this lynch
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 22:19 GMT
#1149
Fuck
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 22:21 GMT
#1154
Anyway good night
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 21 2015 07:40 GMT
#1233
sure bring your stupid case and I'll destroy it
here for a few hours if anyone wants to discuss. After that it's weekend so I won't be here much
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 21 2015 07:41 GMT
#1234
rayn what is your read on WOS. I think he's the only person townreading me late in D1 and it's super weird
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 21 2015 07:46 GMT
#1236
yes
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 21 2015 07:53 GMT
#1238
no
did you read WOS filter and have no read
or did you not even bother
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 21 2015 08:00 GMT
#1239
OK WOS' EOD was good actually
stating ruxxar was likely town 'cause mafia shows up and defend themselves at deadline
pushing for tubesock
hope tubesock is shot actually so we have infos
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 21 2015 08:28 GMT
#1243
On August 21 2015 17:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Rels what's your read on geript?

liked him a lot at the beginning when he was pushing the game forward
don't like him raging and in particular this paraphrased sentence: "these X people voting for lurkers are now considered town. If they are mafia and we lose the mistake is on you guys not voting lurkers"
don't like this state of mind at all, and if he keeps it after taking a break he's mafia 100%
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 21 2015 08:30 GMT
#1244
On August 21 2015 17:22 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 17:00 Rels wrote:
OK WOS' EOD was good actually
stating ruxxar was likely town 'cause mafia shows up and defend themselves at deadline
pushing for tubesock
hope tubesock is shot actually so we have infos


Why does WOS thinking ruxx was likely town make him more town? Why couldn't he just be mafia who knows ruxx's alignment getting credit? I mean you thought he was passably mafia, so shouldn't WOS reading the game very differently from how you were be concerning rather than very town?

WTF
he not only "protected" ruxxar, he pushed for tubesock's lynch
ofc it's NAI if tubesock is town
but I think tubesock is mafia
and if he is, WOS is town 99%
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 21 2015 09:01 GMT
#1247
sorry to disappoint
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 21 2015 09:03 GMT
#1248
OK Breshke could be mafia too
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 21 2015 09:05 GMT
#1249
@geript why Breshke isn't in your lurker list when Chez is ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 21 2015 09:12 GMT
#1250
OK starting to see another pattern. quite a few people have been roleplaying and we now know with certainty their personalities.

but for Breshke and tubesock who could be mafia, I have no idea who are they trying to be. it makes sense that mafia would be careful not to reveal their personalities

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 21 2015 09:32 GMT
#1252
On August 21 2015 18:30 Bill Murray wrote:
Do you really expect it to be that easy?

no i'm waiting for you to tell me what to think
Rels
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August 21 2015 18:05 GMT
#1292
Wow geript are you stupid or mafia
Are you really using meta in this game
Plus if hts is town, your statement of "only one of them has to be mafia" also means "if one flips town I can push the other without problem"
That's two times you made up excuses for future lynches: the first was "if someone is mafia in chez wagon its not my fault"
Rels
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August 21 2015 18:09 GMT
#1297
On August 22 2015 03:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Rels, you are mafia for your reactions at EoD. Come on.

Are you convincing me I'm mafia
Rels
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August 21 2015 18:14 GMT
#1306
Hts
I switched because I townread you and I followed you
And because of the soft blue claim
In retrospect he was roleplaying ls fakeclaiming
Rels
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August 21 2015 18:29 GMT
#1316
On August 22 2015 03:21 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2015 03:14 Rels wrote:
Hts
I switched because I townread you and I followed you
And because of the soft blue claim
In retrospect he was roleplaying ls fakeclaiming


First off, the bolded does not automatically make you town. I know several instances of where mafia sheeped me on a case that I have made on townies playing poorly (examples: mafia Palmar/Damdred in Titanic 7 when I cased Fecalfeast/rayn, mafia marvellosity in Assassination when I cased Vivax).

And roleplaying LS fakeclaiming isn't a great reason either. LS will claim at the slightest pressure. ruXxar was the leading wagon at that point (I believe) by a country mile. A soft blue claim from a veteran's purpose is to draw KP, and had he not fucked off I would not have re-voted him.

So that argument is invalid as well.

??

I was just stating my state of mind. Didnt ask you to reconsider
Rels
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August 21 2015 18:32 GMT
#1319
Good to know
Rels
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August 21 2015 18:34 GMT
#1321
Hts
I cannot see the mafia motivation behind it but you are not reading what I post
Never said ruxxar roleplaying ls was a reason to vote him, but you assumed I did
Never said you reconsidered, but you assumed I did
Rels
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August 21 2015 18:40 GMT
#1327
Breshke did nothing yet and wasn't around at deadline. Now he came back for two posts in which he promised to do more later.
Would lynch
Rels
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August 21 2015 18:42 GMT
#1328
(Outside of rp: I'm on a bus heading to bruxelles so I don't know how much time I'll still be able to connect. Will have wifi at the place I stay though so I'll read the flip at some point )
Rels
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August 22 2015 00:55 GMT
#1510
(Hts and wos sad to see you go hope we can play again in a more serious game)
Rels
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August 22 2015 00:56 GMT
#1512
Pretty happy to see that nuke on tube
Ksc why didn't you give up your vote yesterday to check someone ?
Ff didn't understand if you checked someone
Rels
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August 22 2015 00:58 GMT
#1514
OK you did my bad
Rels
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August 22 2015 00:59 GMT
#1515
Does nuke hits at deadline ?
Rels
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August 22 2015 01:13 GMT
#1517
Getting sleepy
Would lynch yamato bill tube and ritoki
Waiting on rayn and breshke to do stuff
Pretty sure dam is 3rd party but not so sure about survivor
Rels
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August 22 2015 08:15 GMT
#1548
No anti nuke please.

Voting yamato that claimed he would do something but is just waiting, apparently to see if its needed

##Vote yamato77
Rels
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August 23 2015 07:50 GMT
#1604
Wow lots of vote on me :p
Still at bruxelles so I can't do anything. Will be active when I'm on the bus back in about 10 hours: if you're demotivated by the game, come then and we ll try to solve it right there
Rels
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August 23 2015 15:23 GMT
#1610
Lol

Got through french border and ready to play

Tube not talking all day when he s targeted by a nuke indicates he's mafia i think. It may also indicate that mafia team doesn't have any nuke like ruxx had
Rels
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August 23 2015 15:27 GMT
#1611
Wos and Hts getting killed when they were actively talking about stuff indicates mafia wants to kill active people. Basic logic. What's weird is the number of shots : 3 if we count damdred protecting geript + no vig claim. I don't think it's possible for the mafia team to have that many shots, so I assume some of them were 1-time
Rels
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August 23 2015 15:30 GMT
#1612
I agree with ritoky s power being weird but I don't think he's scum. We have two good targets for today I think: yamato (did nothing except when attacked, exactly like desert game) and chezinu (for jnfos about yesterday vote + lurker)
Rels
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August 23 2015 15:43 GMT
#1613
Reread wos filter.

He thought geript and breshke was town so I'm happy to follow that, at least for today.

Wanted to kill chez TT and tube last night. I don't agree with TT but OK with the other two.

He was also wary of ksc, who we have to deal with sooner or later. But ksc claimed a sort of cop, and its a hard role to fake in the long run so I'm happy to see what are his next checks.
Rels
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August 23 2015 15:44 GMT
#1614
Addition: he also wanted yamato shot.
Rels
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August 23 2015 16:00 GMT
#1616
On August 21 2015 02:39 Half the Sky wrote:
Another point I want to bring up I believe geript and WoS in their filters brought up competing points on Lord Tolkien at some point.

WoS townread him for meta, wasn't really specific if I recall right. geript scumread him for being below expectations (paraphrasing, correct if wrong) - personally without playing with him I didn't like certain points. geript, what changed about him, and why should/shouldn't we lynch him?

@geript could you answer that ?
Rels
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August 23 2015 16:12 GMT
#1617
Read Hts filter.

Her townread was ritoky, breshke, fidei and TT. TT read is super important to me. Especially, she called TT scum early on as obs in HG I think; in a game when TT was a super good scum and won, so she definitely has a good read of him. If I got the game name right, it was TT first game as scum.

Like wos, scumread ksc tube and yamato, so good chance at least two maybe three mafia in here.

Wary of damdred and chezinu.

Rels
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August 23 2015 16:13 GMT
#1618
Judge: what do you think of ff ?
Rels
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August 23 2015 16:21 GMT
#1621
Lol no.

Yamato chez would be my double lynch.
Rels
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August 23 2015 16:26 GMT
#1623
OK

Do you townread geript ?
Rels
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August 23 2015 16:35 GMT
#1627
On August 24 2015 01:30 Lord Tolkien wrote:
uh,

is this a rhetorical question?

No ?
Rels
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August 23 2015 16:35 GMT
#1628
Wow I really gave up rp
Would have insulted you so hard right there
Rels
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August 23 2015 16:37 GMT
#1629
Really want to lynch bm too
Rels
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August 23 2015 16:40 GMT
#1631
On August 24 2015 01:37 KelsierSC wrote:
let's analyse the meta of someone roleplaying..super valuable use of time

anyone who actually thought this was smart is mafia
lynch judge , rels w/e

Wos said it first
Stupid
Rels
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August 23 2015 16:41 GMT
#1632
Ksc you rp the whole game
Why so serious now
Rels
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August 23 2015 16:47 GMT
#1633
Wos talks about ksc scum meta
Ksc says nothing
Wos dies

Other people talks about ksc scum meta
Ksc is defensive
Rels
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August 23 2015 16:48 GMT
#1634
OK I'm down for yamato + ksc double lynch
Rels
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August 23 2015 16:48 GMT
#1636
Afk for a few hours! See you all later
Rels
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August 23 2015 16:50 GMT
#1638
On August 24 2015 01:48 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 01:35 Rels wrote:
On August 24 2015 01:30 Lord Tolkien wrote:
uh,

is this a rhetorical question?

No ?

so you just didn't read the town list i posted

Don't remember that. Will see that later, if you explained why you townread him no need to do anything
Rels
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August 23 2015 17:47 GMT
#1644
Dont agree with Dam, pretty sure he's 3P.

Would be OK with Chez, but happier with yamato and KSC.

What do yoy think of that ?

On August 24 2015 01:47 Rels wrote:
Wos talks about ksc scum meta
Ksc says nothing
Wos dies

Other people talks about ksc scum meta
Ksc is defensive


Could you answer that ?

On August 24 2015 01:00 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 02:39 Half the Sky wrote:
Another point I want to bring up I believe geript and WoS in their filters brought up competing points on Lord Tolkien at some point.

WoS townread him for meta, wasn't really specific if I recall right. geript scumread him for being below expectations (paraphrasing, correct if wrong) - personally without playing with him I didn't like certain points. geript, what changed about him, and why should/shouldn't we lynch him?

@geript could you answer that ?

Rels
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#1645
On August 24 2015 02:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm here but, like, whatever.

Some things to sa
Rels
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August 23 2015 17:48 GMT
#1646
On August 24 2015 02:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm here but, like, whatever.

Some things to say about double lynches ?
Rels
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August 23 2015 17:49 GMT
#1647
@geript a read on tubesock ?
Rels
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August 23 2015 17:56 GMT
#1649
On August 24 2015 02:26 geript wrote:
Let's kill Chez or Damdred. I remember thinking everyone wanting to kill rels earler made him possibly town. I cba to think too much more.

What happened to these guys:
On August 22 2015 23:58 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2015 07:53 geript wrote:
This game has a guy who claims he has to vote randomly
This game has a guy who nuked someone for funsies
This game has a guy who refuses to play but people didn't want to lynch instead of the person with the longest filter
This game has 2 replacements who are currently still just as bad as the previous players
This game has a claimed 3P

Half the fucking game is playing trying to be fucking mafia. This game is cancer. Fuck this game

Basically these guys plus Rels plus Kelsier need to die. That's 8 people. So hurry up and get yourselves modkilled or something.


Can you expand on that:
On August 24 2015 01:49 geript wrote:
If anyone saved me it's pretty clearly Wave.

Rels
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August 23 2015 17:57 GMT
#1651
I'll be honest, I'm not feeling geript at all. KSC not being mafia would help me townread him but atm I'm not.
Rels
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August 23 2015 17:59 GMT
#1653
Plus, I'm not a fan of his constant "I'll re evaluate later" and doing almost nothing this phase.

On August 21 2015 23:01 geript wrote:
Otherwise, I'd need a full reread.

On August 22 2015 02:53 geript wrote:
I'm sort of around and going back over the day to see what I missed. Can you present a better argument for why he's town? I just don't really buy your feels/tone on this.

On August 22 2015 03:13 geript wrote:
anywho, i need a break.
[...]

On August 22 2015 04:37 geript wrote:
[...]
I'd guess they're town but I'll figure it out later after some sleep. Woke up too early and am tired plus a bit sad that Koo lost.

On August 23 2015 16:16 geript wrote:
IDK this game is really cancer and I'm the wrong person to carry it entirely. Like I feel like I should hate that townlist more than I do. But I'm not going to bother looking at this until after I've had a good night's rest.

Rels
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August 23 2015 18:01 GMT
#1654
So this is false ?
On August 22 2015 09:01 Damdred wrote:
I'm a bit disappointed my information was worthless but on a bright side geript was a target of a kp and the present blocked it.

It's like the only reason I'm not pushing hard for your lynch.
Rels
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August 23 2015 18:06 GMT
#1657
OK KSC last post about geript before D2 and first post about geript after start of D2 are coherent with a green check.

On August 21 2015 20:08 KelsierSC wrote:
We should lynch geript

Shoot me if you want, fun game apparently just means normal serious game


On August 22 2015 07:42 KelsierSC wrote:
probably dont want to lych geript so tryhard makes my brain weep tears of sadness

but lynch rels

Rels
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August 23 2015 18:06 GMT
#1658
On August 24 2015 03:03 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 03:01 Rels wrote:
So this is false ?
On August 22 2015 09:01 Damdred wrote:
I'm a bit disappointed my information was worthless but on a bright side geript was a target of a kp and the present blocked it.

It's like the only reason I'm not pushing hard for your lynch.

Can you confirm this thought process?

What ?
Rels
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August 23 2015 18:27 GMT
#1662
no that's the other way around

you think WOS saved you when it was Damdred claiming it

if WOS saved you it means that Damdred is either:
- a mafia shooting you and claiming to save you
- a 3P shooting you and claiming to save you

why would he do that ?
Rels
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August 23 2015 18:27 GMT
#1663
On August 24 2015 03:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Why are we talking about double lynches?

'cause LT has claimed to use his nuke before deadline tonight
Rels
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August 23 2015 18:30 GMT
#1664
anyhow about geript: greencheck by KSC + KP block by Damdred means geript is OK for me atm

KSC's post before and after deadline are coherent with green check

so I think the two best kills are yamato + chez
Rels
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August 23 2015 18:33 GMT
#1665
On August 24 2015 03:22 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 03:06 Rels wrote:
On August 24 2015 03:03 geript wrote:
On August 24 2015 03:01 Rels wrote:
So this is false ?
On August 22 2015 09:01 Damdred wrote:
I'm a bit disappointed my information was worthless but on a bright side geript was a target of a kp and the present blocked it.

It's like the only reason I'm not pushing hard for your lynch.

Can you confirm this thought process?

What ?

You think Damdred is 3P right? So why do you believe anything he says?

I don't know really. It's just coherent with Chezinu's banker role, giving presents and being outside the main game.

Writing the other post above, I can see Damdred being serial killer too, having his shot blocked, and pretending to be the saver. But it doesn't make sense with Chezinu's world to me.
Rels
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August 23 2015 19:39 GMT
#1696
On August 24 2015 04:06 ritoky wrote:
i don't even understand tube's play.....he is getting nuked and he has done nothing...he isn't trying to project town after seeing there is an anti-nuke...he isn't yelling at the guy who nuked him...he isn't doing anything...he just left the thread. i am so fucking confused by that.

Only logical explanation is that he's mafia not wanting to give infos
Rels
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August 23 2015 19:43 GMT
#1698
On August 24 2015 04:42 The Shining wrote:
I'm gonna go ahead and be honest. There is no guarantee my nuke will kill Tube, with or without anti nuke. It's like a 50/50 shot. I got a fun role lol. But his silence seems like a dead giveaway.

So can you only nuke mafia ?
Rels
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August 23 2015 19:44 GMT
#1701
On August 24 2015 04:42 The Shining wrote:
Rels gives me no warm town fuzzies. Damdreds points he brought up are why I'm voting him, along with sheeping my tr Geript. I was also asked early in the phase why I nuked Tube over Rels. My answer was we could just lynch Rels. So let's do that.

can you summarize Damdred's and geript's point
Rels
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August 23 2015 19:46 GMT
#1702
On August 24 2015 04:43 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 02:59 Rels wrote:
Plus, I'm not a fan of his constant "I'll re evaluate later" and doing almost nothing this phase.

On August 21 2015 23:01 geript wrote:
Otherwise, I'd need a full reread.

On August 22 2015 02:53 geript wrote:
I'm sort of around and going back over the day to see what I missed. Can you present a better argument for why he's town? I just don't really buy your feels/tone on this.

On August 22 2015 03:13 geript wrote:
anywho, i need a break.
[...]

On August 22 2015 04:37 geript wrote:
[...]
I'd guess they're town but I'll figure it out later after some sleep. Woke up too early and am tired plus a bit sad that Koo lost.

On August 23 2015 16:16 geript wrote:
IDK this game is really cancer and I'm the wrong person to carry it entirely. Like I feel like I should hate that townlist more than I do. But I'm not going to bother looking at this until after I've had a good night's rest.



I don't like that Rels did all of this against Geript like he's reading, but didn't realize ksc gave a green check on him until way after. Lynch pls

LOL who is the one not reading
retard
On August 22 2015 09:56 Rels wrote:
Pretty happy to see that nuke on tube
Ksc why didn't you give up your vote yesterday to check someone ?
Ff didn't understand if you checked someone

On August 22 2015 09:58 Rels wrote:
OK you did my bad

Rels
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August 23 2015 19:48 GMT
#1704
If you read my post, you see that I was thinking of KSC + geript scum team with KSC fake check

Literally the post above the one you quoted in my filter:
On August 24 2015 02:57 Rels wrote:
I'll be honest, I'm not feeling geript at all. KSC not being mafia would help me townread him but atm I'm not.

As in
"If KSC is not mafia geript probably is not mafia"
Rels
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August 23 2015 19:56 GMT
#1709
On August 24 2015 04:51 Damdred wrote:
I'm actually pretty sure shining is towny here.

So yeah, the poe pool is still kinda big. Would likeyou to respond to me rels

Sry what do you want me to respond to ?
Rels
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August 23 2015 19:58 GMT
#1711
Shining

Your original point was that I was not aware KSC had a greencheck
I proved it was false
Move on
Rels
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August 23 2015 20:04 GMT
#1718
On August 24 2015 05:00 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 04:58 Rels wrote:
Shining

Your original point was that I was not aware KSC had a greencheck
I proved it was false
Move on


I did move on. I moved onto how is geript kels a credible scum team? Other than tinfoil, where did you get that from?

tinfoil
WOS and HTS kills when I expected geript to be killed
and when I saw geript didn't answer one of HTS question
Rels
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August 23 2015 20:06 GMT
#1719
On August 24 2015 05:00 Damdred wrote:
Why did you scum read fideli so hard, come off him so easily and then never talk about him again for getting your read

Two reasons
1 - I scumread him mainly 'cause his townread on tube which he dropped after
2 - HTS explained townread on fidei and I believe her
Rels
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August 23 2015 20:09 GMT
#1723
On August 24 2015 05:07 The Shining wrote:
Rels is trying in his last few posts, and interacting. Just wish it wasn't so close to eod with you currently on the chopping block.

Everything here is false
I've been active literally since my bus crossed the french border, a looooong while before you even came back
I'm not on the chopping block
geript and Damdred both said they wanted to lynch others today
Rels
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August 23 2015 20:09 GMT
#1724
Or am I the leading wagon ? Will check the voting thread
Rels
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August 23 2015 20:13 GMT
#1728
On August 24 2015 05:12 Damdred wrote:
I'd be willing to lynch fid I think...

However idk about that explanation rels, did you decide that before or after eod?

Talking about fidei read ? Was convinced by HTS' post + WOS post which said tube was scummier than fidei

don't like how he came back to the thread though, waiting for his big post

and WOW i'm really the leading wagon p: geript I thought you didn't want to lynch me
Rels
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August 23 2015 20:16 GMT
#1732
OK for lynching or nuking fidei

Actually I think yamato + fidei is a good double lynches
Rels
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August 23 2015 20:17 GMT
#1735
On August 24 2015 05:15 ritoky wrote:
i don't mind a rels lynch, its w/e. his recent posts have changed away from the impersonation he was trying to do before. dunno if that was cuz every1 was calling him scum or w/e. but at least he types things.

fidei fucked off for 50 hours, and yamato just sat there and mocked us and refused to play. fuck that shit.

Really, it was HTS and WOS kills that convinced me to play. HTS scumread me hard and WOS townread me hard, and I can't play a lackluster game now that they died.
Rels
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August 23 2015 20:19 GMT
#1737
On August 24 2015 05:18 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 05:13 Rels wrote:
On August 24 2015 05:12 Damdred wrote:
I'd be willing to lynch fid I think...

However idk about that explanation rels, did you decide that before or after eod?

Talking about fidei read ? Was convinced by HTS' post + WOS post which said tube was scummier than fidei

don't like how he came back to the thread though, waiting for his big post

and WOW i'm really the leading wagon p: geript I thought you didn't want to lynch me


Was that before or after eod though?

before
Rels
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August 23 2015 20:23 GMT
#1741
On August 24 2015 05:22 Fidei86 wrote:
Sorry. Filters stopped working for anyone else? I like the new IE, but it keeps crashing. It won't let me access Breshke's filter.

Working. Maybe you should explain your vote first though ?
Rels
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August 23 2015 20:26 GMT
#1746
On August 24 2015 05:23 Damdred wrote:
Rels if you thought tube was the scummiest why did you shennany onto Rux so easily without pushing your top read like you normally would.

'cause I was stupid. Someone said something about tube's wagon being too easy, and HTS swichted to him.
But the main point is ruxxar softed blue and fucked off. And I didn't understand that so he had to be scum. Later I understood that he was rplaying LS blueclaiming under pressure.
About the not pushing, it's because I was rplaying and not posting much.
Rels
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August 23 2015 20:26 GMT
#1748
On August 24 2015 05:25 geript wrote:
Correct me, but isn't LT's nuke still headed to tube?

Yes. Why are you voting me ?
Rels
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August 23 2015 20:27 GMT
#1750
On August 23 2015 21:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am sorry guys. I had stuff to do.
I'll get my desktop set up in about three or four hours. Then ill be here.

Waiting for this too.
Rels
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August 23 2015 20:28 GMT
#1753
God I hardly slept this weekend and I'm working tomorrow. But I can't go to sleep like that )= guess I'll be super tired tomorrow
Rels
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August 23 2015 20:30 GMT
#1754
On August 24 2015 05:28 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 05:26 Rels wrote:
On August 24 2015 05:25 geript wrote:
Correct me, but isn't LT's nuke still headed to tube?

Yes. Why are you voting me ?

Too much crazy shit in your filter. I'm obv town but you think a 3P saying I was an NK target last night confirms me? Bullshit. Hell I could probably just quote my big case on you.

Your case is a whole lot of useless meta.
I understand the first point though. If you feel that makes me scummier than others, my fault.
Rels
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August 23 2015 20:35 GMT
#1762
On August 24 2015 05:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am going to vote for rels.
I dont like the yamato lynch at all.
I dont even know what else is happening.

I couldnt get a network cable today and cant fucking get my desktop to work properly unril tomorrow so i just stop right not.

I am basically sheeping geriot right now because i havent have time to read pretty much anything today. Geript i am pretty sure yamato is not scum. You are probably not scum bwcause the night kills make no sense.

Great
Is this possible you read my filter before doing this
And why is yamato not scum ?
Rels
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August 23 2015 20:36 GMT
#1763
On August 24 2015 05:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i have never seen rels address anything like fidei on d1 and me on n1 when i called him scum for it.

meta is useless this game
Rels
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August 23 2015 20:44 GMT
#1768
On August 24 2015 05:42 ritoky wrote:
I would also add ticktock now to the lynchables list.

why ? He could easily hammer me. You think he's preparing next day if I'm mislynched ?
Rels
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August 23 2015 20:45 GMT
#1771
Don't know what to think of rayn. I suppose my faith of his scumhunting skills blinds me, but his vote is logical: don't have time to play, sheep his hard town read.
Rels
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August 23 2015 20:47 GMT
#1772
can we have a votecount ?
Rels
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August 23 2015 20:47 GMT
#1773
rayn please explain why yamato is town though
Rels
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August 23 2015 20:50 GMT
#1777
On August 24 2015 05:49 yamato77 wrote:
I guarantee a nuke will be shot down

town gets to vote on which one

gogo

which would you pick
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 20:53 GMT
#1782
On August 24 2015 05:52 Tictock wrote:
Rayn is suddenly sheeping geript who he said was mafia last night and hasn't given anything solid for his scumread on rels.

that is fucking true
let me check that
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 23 2015 20:56 GMT
#1792
OK that is super true
rayn scumread geript when he came into the thread by just reading 30 posts
On August 21 2015 07:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript and rels.

On August 21 2015 07:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk i read like 30 posts or so.
that's what i got out of them.

that's literally all i got to say atm. i am dead tired so until tomorrow.
i'll read more in the morning.

After the night he still scumread him
On August 21 2015 16:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 07:38 geript wrote:
On August 21 2015 07:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 21 2015 07:33 geript wrote:
On August 21 2015 07:30 The Shining wrote:
On August 21 2015 07:23 geript wrote:
There were 5 votes for Chez. 0 for VA. 0 for Yamato. 0 for Kelsier. Like wtf people. Listen to your betters. On the upside, Yamato, judgeJudy, fido and tube sock are now confirmed town. Anyone who tries to lynch them gets lynched period. If they're mafia, it's your fault. Seriously fucking listen to me I'm the best player alive.


Then lynch me. I don't understand how Tube is confirmed town.

Take a look at the vote count.

oh hey please tell me how does the town lynch make anyone anything?

There were 4 good lynches yesterday and 5 people who voted for any of those four. At very most, there's on mafia in those 4. That means it's better to look at the main wagon and the straggler votes.

You need to explain this further.
You mean like because you think there is mafia in the people who were main wagons yesterday there was mafia on ruxxar?

Well hey. Obviously it is likely there was mafia on ruxxar. Why would there not be.

But i dont like how you're trying to approach it. It sounds like a justification to look into certain people which it definitely isnt.

And now he's sheeping him.
Makes no sense.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 21:00 GMT
#1800
On August 24 2015 05:57 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 05:56 Rels wrote:
OK that is super true
rayn scumread geript when he came into the thread by just reading 30 posts
On August 21 2015 07:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript and rels.

On August 21 2015 07:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk i read like 30 posts or so.
that's what i got out of them.

that's literally all i got to say atm. i am dead tired so until tomorrow.
i'll read more in the morning.

After the night he still scumread him
On August 21 2015 16:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 21 2015 07:38 geript wrote:
On August 21 2015 07:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 21 2015 07:33 geript wrote:
On August 21 2015 07:30 The Shining wrote:
On August 21 2015 07:23 geript wrote:
There were 5 votes for Chez. 0 for VA. 0 for Yamato. 0 for Kelsier. Like wtf people. Listen to your betters. On the upside, Yamato, judgeJudy, fido and tube sock are now confirmed town. Anyone who tries to lynch them gets lynched period. If they're mafia, it's your fault. Seriously fucking listen to me I'm the best player alive.


Then lynch me. I don't understand how Tube is confirmed town.

Take a look at the vote count.

oh hey please tell me how does the town lynch make anyone anything?

There were 4 good lynches yesterday and 5 people who voted for any of those four. At very most, there's on mafia in those 4. That means it's better to look at the main wagon and the straggler votes.

You need to explain this further.
You mean like because you think there is mafia in the people who were main wagons yesterday there was mafia on ruxxar?

Well hey. Obviously it is likely there was mafia on ruxxar. Why would there not be.

But i dont like how you're trying to approach it. It sounds like a justification to look into certain people which it definitely isnt.

And now he's sheeping him.
Makes no sense.


except the part where y'know...damdred as 3p claimed a save on him/town conf....and kels claimed a green check on him. that could make it make sense....are you done?

true but apparently he didn't read anything
neither did he mention why he townread geript
but OK it could makes sense
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 21:16 GMT
#1826
fidei, I do not think ritoky is mafia. Only weird thing is his bizarre role for me. Your case is logical though so not voting you.

So I'm back to voting yamato or rayn.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 21:20 GMT
#1831
getting really sleepy
can we all consolidate on someone so I can sleep
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 23 2015 21:21 GMT
#1833
On August 24 2015 06:18 Fidei86 wrote:
Ugh. Town need to consolidate.

++
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 23 2015 21:29 GMT
#1843
To the people voting fidei: HTS townread fidei.
Let's vote yamato or rayn.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 21:32 GMT
#1846
On August 24 2015 06:30 Fidei86 wrote:
Rels what's the case on rayn? He replaced VA right?

1
Didn't read the thread but somehow changed his read on geript from only scumread with me to 100% town
2
Didn't do shit today but produced excuses
3
Sheep his former scumread on an easy train
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 21:32 GMT
#1847
and right
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 21:34 GMT
#1848
I prefer a yamato lynch though
Only 'cause it's so damn difficult to create
can't believe we cannot create a majority on 0 content guy
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 21:36 GMT
#1851
geript's reason for voting me is legit
rayn's is super bad
will check the other 2
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 21:41 GMT
#1857
Wow
Chezinu voted me without reason
Happy with the nuke
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 21:42 GMT
#1859
On August 24 2015 06:40 Fidei86 wrote:
@TT Look I love policy lynches, but does it make sense for any of the wagons to be mafia? I've never been in a day like this, but this feels like a "meh, town are on the wrong track" day from mafia.

I see what you mean, but I cannot believe how hard it is to get vote to yamato.
I've been here since the french border maybe 6 hours ago
yamato did nothing
yet I'm still leading the vote
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 21:44 GMT
#1863
With yamato's and tube's potential votes we need more than 1 surplus vote
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 21:45 GMT
#1865
On August 24 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:
i'm here i will probably just hammer someone right at the end

What is your rule already ? So you can have a check
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 21:46 GMT
#1868
Shining if you're here
I think we need your vote to avoid a mafia potential hammer
FF you should remove your vote to someone not critical
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 21:47 GMT
#1869
On August 24 2015 06:46 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 06:45 Rels wrote:
On August 24 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:
i'm here i will probably just hammer someone right at the end

What is your rule already ? So you can have a check


depends if i can lynch someone i think is not mafia with my vote

need to make sure i can save mafia, more important than my check

we will see

??
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 21:49 GMT
#1875
On August 24 2015 06:48 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 06:47 Rels wrote:
On August 24 2015 06:46 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 24 2015 06:45 Rels wrote:
On August 24 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:
i'm here i will probably just hammer someone right at the end

What is your rule already ? So you can have a check


depends if i can lynch someone i think is not mafia with my vote

need to make sure i can save mafia, more important than my check

we will see

??


i'm horrible at finding mafia but i'm not as good as me, so me being me might vote for mafia, which isn't what me being someone else would do.

=D
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 21:50 GMT
#1876
LT's vote on me seems bad at first glance too.
Never changed his read on me all day, and "consolidated" on me when I was the lynch again.
Same level as rayn.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 21:53 GMT
#1878
OK only Shining could switch to yam I think now.
Two mafia switches kill me. But at least you get two mafias that way so it'll be OK.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 21:56 GMT
#1891
don't think it's a good idea
the one time yam is in the lead we switch ? meh
Rels
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France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 21:56 GMT
#1893
alright with shining online we can do it
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 23 2015 21:58 GMT
#1900
dunno. Just know I'm super stressed to switch closed to deadline two times in a row
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 21:59 GMT
#1905
On August 24 2015 06:58 yamato77 wrote:
##Anti-Nuke: Chezinu

OK
lets kill that guy
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 22:14 GMT
#1913
DID LT WANTED A CHECK ON RAYN SO BADLY
DID HE AFK A VOTE ON ME
YEEEEEEEEES
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 22:14 GMT
#1916
DIDNT SEE TUBE VOTED ME
SO CLOSE TO DEATH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 22:15 GMT
#1918
Soooooo happy!!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 22:15 GMT
#1919
WTF WHAT IS THIS FUCKING BROKEN NUKE SHINING
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 23 2015 22:15 GMT
#1921
So LT is mafia
Tube is mafia
Yamato town (no hammer me + destroyed LT's nuke)
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 22:17 GMT
#1927
On August 24 2015 07:17 Tubesock wrote:
Holy shit that's awesome!!!

hahahaha
fuck so many mafia to lynch
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 22:18 GMT
#1928
Chez is town too probably, since LT nuked him.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 22:22 GMT
#1933
On August 23 2015 15:08 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Person who really really needs to be checked is rayn. FFS, people, just because you guys think his role is marv doesn't mean he'll roll town. Ive been saying this consistently. It's in the same level as "oh hey ritoky rolled BH there's an 80% chance that role is scum" shit that geript was putting out D1, and i feel really good about ritoky despite lolrngvotes.

On August 24 2015 01:17 Lord Tolkien wrote:
All I'll say is that Rayn is a D3 lynch, and a N2 check.

On August 24 2015 05:48 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I said it before ill say it again, check that mofo.

LOLOLOL
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 22:24 GMT
#1934
On August 24 2015 07:21 Tubesock wrote:
Nah Shining, you just don't like me because I'm not playing like I was our last two games.

Funny you scum me for scumming Fidei who I think both you and Rels are too? So what gives?

Not true.

Fuck what is this fucking broken nuke.

Funny how you start giving a shit about the game now that you're not dead anymore. (=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 22:26 GMT
#1939
On August 24 2015 07:25 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 07:22 Rels wrote:
On August 23 2015 15:08 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Person who really really needs to be checked is rayn. FFS, people, just because you guys think his role is marv doesn't mean he'll roll town. Ive been saying this consistently. It's in the same level as "oh hey ritoky rolled BH there's an 80% chance that role is scum" shit that geript was putting out D1, and i feel really good about ritoky despite lolrngvotes.

On August 24 2015 01:17 Lord Tolkien wrote:
All I'll say is that Rayn is a D3 lynch, and a N2 check.

On August 24 2015 05:48 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I said it before ill say it again, check that mofo.

LOLOLOL


And what about that makes him mafia?

On August 24 2015 07:13 Onegu wrote:
Rayn as marvelosity has been lynched.

You are a Paranoid Gun Owner. Anyone who visits you will be killed.


Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 22:28 GMT
#1941
+ not giving a shit about playing this day phase
+ sheeping a vote on me without reasons
He clearly said "I provide a nuke today so you town should pick two targets and I do nothing"
But he nuked Chez anyway instead of a lynch target lol
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 22:28 GMT
#1942
On August 24 2015 07:27 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 07:24 Rels wrote:
On August 24 2015 07:21 Tubesock wrote:
Nah Shining, you just don't like me because I'm not playing like I was our last two games.

Funny you scum me for scumming Fidei who I think both you and Rels are too? So what gives?

Not true.

Fuck what is this fucking broken nuke.

Funny how you start giving a shit about the game now that you're not dead anymore. (=


I don't think this town deserves try hard. Just look at the last couple days. No one played. You expect a tryhard then? yeah right. Keep scumming me for that.

Your contribution has been to scum pretty much everyone in the game. And you were all gung ho on Rayne, why'd you jump to yamato at the end?

You think I will talk to you ? stupid
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2015 22:29 GMT
#1943
alright lots of adrenaline but I gotta go sleep
see ya all tomorrow (=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 23 2015 22:33 GMT
#1950
On August 24 2015 07:31 Fidei86 wrote:
Hey Rels, why *did* you switch?

Cause of the anti nuke and cause I didn't see tube voting me.

When I saw tube s vote i thought I was dead
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 24 2015 07:15 GMT
#2016
On August 24 2015 14:11 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Well, good news is that I can start playing the game on a regular basis after this night phase. Though i'll prob eat a vigi shot lel.

Would love that. 1 lynch / day is too little.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 24 2015 07:18 GMT
#2017
On August 24 2015 07:29 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 07:25 The Shining wrote:
Oh NOW you wanna play after a ninja vote to try and save rayn and avoiding a failed nuke? No.

Lol if you think I'm only scumming you for scumming Fidei, yur silly. I just came off him as scum for his EoD actions.

Where were you at eod? Where were you all d2? YOU HAVE NO POWER HERE, SCUM


I was out enjoying the weekend. Figured I was dead. I did see your 50% thing so thought I should vote. Yeah I waited to the last minute too just to annoy you.

I was typing a response to this, but the stupidness / scumminess is so high I'm not sure it's warranted.
If we cannot get this guy lynched tomorrow I'll fire up, but for now I don't care about tube and voting him tomorrow.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 24 2015 07:51 GMT
#2018
Vote recaps colored with flips


Day 1 final vote

ruXxar (7): Breshke, Half the Sky, Rels, ObiWanShinobi, WaveofShadow, Lord Tolkien, ObiWanShinobi, Lord Tolkien, Damdred, Half the Sky, Chezinu, Rels
Chezinu (5): geript, JudgeJudy, ObiWanShinobi, WaveofShadow, Lord Tolkien, Tubesock, Fidei86, yamato77, FecalFeast, KelscierSC
Tubesock (2): The Shining, Rels, Chezinu, WaveofShadow, Lord Tolkien
Fidei86 (2): ritoky, Tubesock, The Shining, Tictock, Rels
ObiWanShinobi (1): ruXxar
WaveofShadow (1): FecalFeast
Half the Sky (1): KelsierSC
Damdred (0): Fecalfeast, Fecalfeast, ruXxar, Chezinu, Fecalfeast, KelsierSC
VayneAuthority (0): Lord Tolkien
yamato77 (0): FecalFeast, Tubesock

Not Voting (2): VayneAuthority, Beneather

Day 1 vote recap
+ Show Spoiler +

ritoky voted for fidei86
geript voted for ritoky
Fecalfeast voted for damdred
Damdred voted for fecalfeast
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for judgejudy
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for damdred
Chezinu voted for ritoky
Chezinu unvoted
ruXxar voted for damdred
Chezinu unvoted
Chezinu voted for damdred
Tubesock voted for Fidei86
Breshke voted for ruXxar
Half the Sky voted for ruXxar
The Shining voted for Fidei86
Rels voted for ruXxar
ObiWanShinobi voted for ruXxar
ruXxar unvoted
ruXxar voted for geript
WaveofShadow voted for ruXxar
Lord Tolkien voted for Vayne Authority
Lord Tolkien unvoted
Lord Tolkien voted for ruXxar
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for yamato77
ruXxar unvoted
ruXxar voted for ObiWanShinobi
The Shining unvoted
The Shining voted for Tubesock
JudgeJudy voted for WaveofShadow
geript unvoted
geript voted for chezinu
Tictock voted for Fidei86
Rels unvoted
Rels voted for Fidei86
Rels unvoted
Rels voted for Tubesock
Chezinu unvoted
Chezinu voted for Tubesock
JudgeJudy unvoted
JudgeJudy voted for Chezinu
Tubesock unvoted
Tubesock voted for yamato77
ObiWanShinobi unvoted
ObiWanShinobi voted for chezinu
WaveofShadow unvoted
WaveofShadow voted for Chezinu
Lord Tolkien unvoted
Lord Tolkien voted for Chezinu
Tubesock unvoted
Tubesock voted for Chezinu
Fidei86 voted for Chezinu
yamato77 voted for Chezinu
KelsierSC voted for Half the Sky
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for kelsierSC
Half the Sky unvoted
Half the Sky voted for Tubesock
WaveofShadow unvoted
WaveofShadow voted for Tubesock
Lord Tolkien unvoted
Lord Tolkien voted for Tubesock
ObiWanShinobi unvoted
ObiWanShinobi voted for ruXxar
Lord Tolkien unvoted
Lord Tolkien voted for ruXxar
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for damdred
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for damdred
Damdred unvoted
Damdred voted for ruXxar
Half the Sky unvoted
Half the Sky voted for ruXxar
Chezinu unvoted
Chezinu voted for ruXxar
Rels unvoted
Rels voted for ruXxar
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for chezinu
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for chezinu
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for Half the Sky
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for WaveofShadow


Day 2 final vote

raynpelikoneet (5): Tictock, KelsierSC, Damdred, Tictock, Fidei86, Rels, The Shining, JudgeJudy
Rels (5): KelsierSC, Fecalfeast, Tictock, Chezinu, geript, The Shining, Fidei86, raynpelikoneet, Lord Tolkien, Tubesock
Yamato77 (3): ObiWanShinobi, Rels, JudgeJudy, Lord Tolkien, Tictock, Fidei86, Fidei86, The Shining, yamato77, Rels
Fecalfeast (2): ritoky, Bill Murray, Tictock
Chezinu (1): Tictock, Breshke, geript, geript
geript (1): Fecalfeast
ritoky (0): geript, Fidei86
The Shining (1): KelsierSC, KelsierSC
KelsierSC (0): Fecalfeast
Fidei86 (0): The Shining, Damdred, Fecalfeast, Tictock

Day 2 vote recap
+ Show Spoiler +

ritoky voted for Fecalfeast
Bill Murray voted for Fecalfeast
Tictock voted for Fecalfeast
KelsierSC voted for Rels
Fecalfeast voted for Rels
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for Rels
ObiWanShinobi voted for Yamato77
Chezinu voted for Rels
Rels voted for Yamato77
geript voted for ritoky
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for Chezinu
Breshke voted for Chezinu
JudgeJudy voted for Yamato77
Lord Tolkien voted for Yamato77
geript voted for Chezinu
geript unvoted
geript voted for Chezinu
geript unvoted
geript voted for Rels
The Shining voted for Rels
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for KelsierSC
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for The Shining
Fidei86 voted for Rels
The Shining unvoted
The Shining voted for Fidei86
raynpelikoneet voted for Rels
Damdred voted for Fidei86
Lord Tolkien unvoted
Lord Tolkien voted for Rels
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for raynpelikoneet
Fidei86 unvoted
Fidei86 voted for ritoky
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for Fidei86
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for Fidei86
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for Yamato77
Fidei86 unvoted
Fidei86 voted for Yamato77
Fidei86 unvoted
Fidei86 voted for Yamato77
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for geript
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for raynpelikoneet
Damdred unvoted
Damdred voted for raynpelikoneet
The Shining unvoted
The Shining voted for Yamato77
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for raynpelikoneet
Fidei86 unvoted
Fidei86 voted for raynpelikoneet
Rels unvoted
Rels voted for raynpelikoneet
yamato77 voted for Yamato77
The Shining unvoted
The Shining voted for raynpelikoneet
Tubesock voted for Rels
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for The Shining
JudgeJudy unvoted
JudgeJudy voted for raynpelikoneet
Rels unvoted
Rels voted for Yamato77

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 24 2015 07:56 GMT
#2019
@geript

Can I have a answer to his now ?

On August 24 2015 02:57 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 02:49 Rels wrote:
@geript a read on tubesock ?

He's dead. Couldn't care less.


And will you answer this fucking question you dodged 3 fucking times ?

On August 24 2015 02:47 Rels wrote:
Could you answer that ?

Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 01:00 Rels wrote:
On August 21 2015 02:39 Half the Sky wrote:
Another point I want to bring up I believe geript and WoS in their filters brought up competing points on Lord Tolkien at some point.

WoS townread him for meta, wasn't really specific if I recall right. geript scumread him for being below expectations (paraphrasing, correct if wrong) - personally without playing with him I didn't like certain points. geript, what changed about him, and why should/shouldn't we lynch him?

@geript could you answer that ?


Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 24 2015 08:12 GMT
#2020
raynpelikoneet (5): Damdred, Tictock, Fidei86, The Shining, JudgeJudy

OK. These 5 are confirmed town (or 3P by fidei for Damdred). Pretty cool to finally have some hard townreads. (=

By vote, I think yamato is town. Would lynch him over the 5 above, but not over anyone else atm.

NK blocked + greencheck makes geript green, even though I would lynch him if it was not for both of these things.

KSC's posts are coherent with a green check, so I believe he's town as well atm.

Whatever is BM's alignment, I think Breshke is town, for HTS + WOS townread of him + BM greencheck of him (fake or not).

ritoky I think makes some sense in his post. His power is super weird though. Don't think he's mafia, but would lynch him over the ones above atm.

OWS I remember being town for his D1. Didn't do a whole lot D2 but didn't hammer me when he could. On the minus side that's exactly how he played his last game as scum; super active at the beginning, then let the town kills each other while not doing anything. Thinking town, will see in future days.

Chezinu I think is town, simply by the virtue of being so easy to lynch or nuke both days. Certainly not for anything he's done.

Don't agree with BM being conf town by claiming Palmar. I agree that it's a dumb move, but it's NAI IMO. Would love a check on him.

Then we have tubesock: not talking about anything for the whole day + ninja vote + is OK to talk when not confirmed dead.

And LT: bad reasonning to vote me then afk + wanted cop to check PGO + said he would nuke who town wanted but went for an easy target.

On the ??? side: FecalFeast. No idea.

So my lynch list is bottom up (excluding FF who I have no idea).
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 24 2015 08:42 GMT
#2022
fucking nuke
Rels
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August 24 2015 08:47 GMT
#2023
fidei what do you think of FF ?
Rels
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August 24 2015 08:54 GMT
#2025
=D
Rels
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August 24 2015 09:35 GMT
#2029
On August 24 2015 18:22 Fidei86 wrote:
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On August 23 2015 11:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 23 2015 10:55 ritoky wrote:
On August 23 2015 10:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
anyone wanna make a list post or something we can talk about?


i nominate you

would kill:
BM
KelsierSC
Ritoky
Chezinu
yamato77

would kill but probably shouldn't:
Damdred
fidei86

town reads:
fuck it

Okay mafia > work.

This is the list post I was talking about. He does get town points for *saying* he would switch onto rayn (which had a momentum effect upon the lynch), but he then actually said he wanted to vote me. Scum reading me doesn't make him mafia, obviously.

His filter is a mix of some meh, some okay. He hasn't really driven town anywhere, but I don't think he's been a massive hindrance either. I think null is the safest place for him, and honestly there are at least four better targets (OWS, Tube, rit, KSC) than him, and that's not taking into account the case on Lord Tolkien, which I haven't really given much thought to yet.

OK I get that. Null read for you too then.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 24 2015 10:14 GMT
#2032
On August 24 2015 18:59 Fidei86 wrote:
You mean you're null on me?

No :p you have a null on ff like me
You are conf town
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 24 2015 13:23 GMT
#2037
On August 24 2015 22:16 geript wrote:
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On August 24 2015 16:56 Rels wrote:
@geript

Can I have a answer to his now ?

On August 24 2015 02:57 geript wrote:
On August 24 2015 02:49 Rels wrote:
@geript a read on tubesock ?

He's dead. Couldn't care less.


And will you answer this fucking question you dodged 3 fucking times ?

On August 24 2015 02:47 Rels wrote:
Could you answer that ?

On August 24 2015 01:00 Rels wrote:
On August 21 2015 02:39 Half the Sky wrote:
Another point I want to bring up I believe geript and WoS in their filters brought up competing points on Lord Tolkien at some point.

WoS townread him for meta, wasn't really specific if I recall right. geript scumread him for being below expectations (paraphrasing, correct if wrong) - personally without playing with him I didn't like certain points. geript, what changed about him, and why should/shouldn't we lynch him?

@geript could you answer that ?



He was nuked an I didn't expect him to live.

English motherfucker ...

Of course I wasn't asking you why you didn't answer.
I was asking you what was your read now that you didn't expect him to die.

You're so frustrating to play with.

So:
1 - What do you think of tube ?
2 - What do you think of LT ?
3 - What do you think of me ?
4 - Any other reads ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 24 2015 13:41 GMT
#2038
Seriously. geript was attacking KSC hard in Lost but Not Forgotten mafia for his "poor" english skills. And now he's not answering an easy question.

On August 24 2015 22:23 Rels wrote:
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On August 24 2015 22:16 geript wrote:
On August 24 2015 16:56 Rels wrote:
@geript

Can I have a answer to his now ?

On August 24 2015 02:57 geript wrote:
On August 24 2015 02:49 Rels wrote:
@geript a read on tubesock ?

He's dead. Couldn't care less.


And will you answer this fucking question you dodged 3 fucking times ?

On August 24 2015 02:47 Rels wrote:
Could you answer that ?

On August 24 2015 01:00 Rels wrote:
On August 21 2015 02:39 Half the Sky wrote:
Another point I want to bring up I believe geript and WoS in their filters brought up competing points on Lord Tolkien at some point.

WoS townread him for meta, wasn't really specific if I recall right. geript scumread him for being below expectations (paraphrasing, correct if wrong) - personally without playing with him I didn't like certain points. geript, what changed about him, and why should/shouldn't we lynch him?

@geript could you answer that ?



He was nuked an I didn't expect him to live.

English motherfucker ...

On July 20 2015 04:16 geript wrote:
DO YOU SPEAK IT??????????

His filter that game

geript, I'm really only townreading for BOTH the greencheck and the NK block. Like, saying multiple times you're demotivated, you need to reread and never doing it, being toxic ... If it was only the greencheck I would push you hard.

For now though I think you're town, so let's be nice to each other and discuss OK ? Can you answer the questions above and share your reads ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 24 2015 14:03 GMT
#2041
No idea
The most logical thing for me is 2 mafia KP + a mafia vig
The second most logical thing is Damdred lying + 2 mafia KP (or 1 + 1 mafia vig)
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 24 2015 14:14 GMT
#2045
On August 24 2015 23:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
No vig ever would have shot into Wave/Hts, fyi.

Your point being ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 24 2015 14:14 GMT
#2048
On August 24 2015 23:13 Breshke wrote:
Do people think i will die tonight?

Possibly. I think a rayn's voter is more likely though.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 24 2015 14:15 GMT
#2050
On August 24 2015 23:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Above aimed at Breshke.

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On August 24 2015 23:14 Rels wrote:
On August 24 2015 23:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
No vig ever would have shot into Wave/Hts, fyi.

Your point being ?


/shrug
People were talking about vigs.
I thought that was unsmart.
I corrected them.

Mafia vig is possible, as 3 KP / night is unlosable for mafia I think.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 24 2015 14:19 GMT
#2054
On August 24 2015 23:18 Breshke wrote:
##Nuke:Lord Tolkien

I love you.
He claimed to have an anti nuke though.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 24 2015 14:26 GMT
#2064
On August 24 2015 23:23 Breshke wrote:
Rels will you be sad when if i didn't actually have another nuke and i just did it for attention

I cannot even imagine that possibility
You're too nice for that kind of plan
...
right
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 24 2015 14:27 GMT
#2065
On August 24 2015 23:20 geript wrote:
If a player is already dead, their alignment doesn't matter whatsoever. I haven't thought about him. The argument that he voted but didn't play while nuked is s decent point to him being scum.

If tube is scum, I don't think I'd lynch LT. I mean maybe Wave died protecting Rayn or maybe Hts died watching him. Idk, but I'm thinking maybe Wave was having a good game and I should just sheep him.

Idk, maybe you're town. Tbh don't really care what you are.

Like me being demotivated you should think about because I've never been demotivated scum. Like the 2 reasons you're townreading me for are literally the most retarded ones. Like I didnt roll scum and I wanted to. I didn't get anyone I wanted of a huge list. D1 was a bunch of people being super toxic and not listening to any of my reads. Like the ruXxar lynch was really bad

OK. But you posted several times that you will reread stuff, then didn't (apparently, if you did you didn't post about it). I don't like that.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 24 2015 20:59 GMT
#2098
In case I die: posted a big post of reads earlier. Only change is that I actually would lynch ritoky after tube and lt. Basoc reasons are being ok with several lynches while accusing tt to be non commital. Need to reread him carefully him tomorrow if I'm alive.

No idea what happened with nuke and anti nuke stuff, chezinu was afk so hard I thought onegu asked for his replacement but he shows up with anti nuke. Weird.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 24 2015 20:59 GMT
#2100
Fuck you tube
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 07:32 GMT
#2227
Vote recaps colored with flips


Day 1 final vote

ruXxar (7): Breshke, Half the Sky, Rels, ObiWanShinobi, WaveofShadow, Lord Tolkien, ObiWanShinobi, Lord Tolkien, Damdred, Half the Sky, Chezinu, Rels
Chezinu (5): geript, JudgeJudy, ObiWanShinobi, WaveofShadow, Lord Tolkien, Tubesock, Fidei86, yamato77, FecalFeast, KelscierSC
Tubesock (2): The Shining, Rels, Chezinu, WaveofShadow, Lord Tolkien
Fidei86 (2): ritoky, Tubesock, The Shining, Tictock, Rels
ObiWanShinobi (1): ruXxar
WaveofShadow (1): FecalFeast
Half the Sky (1): KelsierSC
Damdred (0): Fecalfeast, Fecalfeast, ruXxar, Chezinu, Fecalfeast, KelsierSC
VayneAuthority (0): Lord Tolkien
yamato77 (0): FecalFeast, Tubesock

Not Voting (2): VayneAuthority, Beneather

Day 1 vote recap
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ritoky voted for fidei86
geript voted for ritoky
Fecalfeast voted for damdred
Damdred voted for fecalfeast
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for judgejudy
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for damdred
Chezinu voted for ritoky
Chezinu unvoted
ruXxar voted for damdred
Chezinu unvoted
Chezinu voted for damdred
Tubesock voted for Fidei86
Breshke voted for ruXxar
Half the Sky voted for ruXxar
The Shining voted for Fidei86
Rels voted for ruXxar
ObiWanShinobi voted for ruXxar
ruXxar unvoted
ruXxar voted for geript
WaveofShadow voted for ruXxar
Lord Tolkien voted for Vayne Authority
Lord Tolkien unvoted
Lord Tolkien voted for ruXxar
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for yamato77
ruXxar unvoted
ruXxar voted for ObiWanShinobi
The Shining unvoted
The Shining voted for Tubesock
JudgeJudy voted for WaveofShadow
geript unvoted
geript voted for chezinu
Tictock voted for Fidei86
Rels unvoted
Rels voted for Fidei86
Rels unvoted
Rels voted for Tubesock
Chezinu unvoted
Chezinu voted for Tubesock
JudgeJudy unvoted
JudgeJudy voted for Chezinu
Tubesock unvoted
Tubesock voted for yamato77
ObiWanShinobi unvoted
ObiWanShinobi voted for chezinu
WaveofShadow unvoted
WaveofShadow voted for Chezinu
Lord Tolkien unvoted
Lord Tolkien voted for Chezinu
Tubesock unvoted
Tubesock voted for Chezinu
Fidei86 voted for Chezinu
yamato77 voted for Chezinu
KelsierSC voted for Half the Sky
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for kelsierSC
Half the Sky unvoted
Half the Sky voted for Tubesock
WaveofShadow unvoted
WaveofShadow voted for Tubesock
Lord Tolkien unvoted
Lord Tolkien voted for Tubesock
ObiWanShinobi unvoted
ObiWanShinobi voted for ruXxar
Lord Tolkien unvoted
Lord Tolkien voted for ruXxar
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for damdred
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for damdred
Damdred unvoted
Damdred voted for ruXxar
Half the Sky unvoted
Half the Sky voted for ruXxar
Chezinu unvoted
Chezinu voted for ruXxar
Rels unvoted
Rels voted for ruXxar
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for chezinu
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for chezinu
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for Half the Sky
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for WaveofShadow


Day 2 final vote

raynpelikoneet (5): Tictock, KelsierSC, Damdred, Tictock, Fidei86, Rels, The Shining, JudgeJudy
Rels (5): KelsierSC, Fecalfeast, Tictock, Chezinu, geript, The Shining, Fidei86, raynpelikoneet, Lord Tolkien, Tubesock
Yamato77 (3): ObiWanShinobi, Rels, JudgeJudy, Lord Tolkien, Tictock, Fidei86, Fidei86, The Shining, yamato77, Rels
Fecalfeast (2): ritoky, Bill Murray, Tictock
Chezinu (1): Tictock, Breshke, geript, geript
geript (1): Fecalfeast
ritoky (0): geript, Fidei86
The Shining (1): KelsierSC, KelsierSC
KelsierSC (0): Fecalfeast
Fidei86 (0): The Shining, Damdred, Fecalfeast, Tictock

Day 2 vote recap
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ritoky voted for Fecalfeast
Bill Murray voted for Fecalfeast
Tictock voted for Fecalfeast
KelsierSC voted for Rels
Fecalfeast voted for Rels
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for Rels
ObiWanShinobi voted for Yamato77
Chezinu voted for Rels
Rels voted for Yamato77
geript voted for ritoky
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for Chezinu
Breshke voted for Chezinu
JudgeJudy voted for Yamato77
Lord Tolkien voted for Yamato77
geript voted for Chezinu
geript unvoted
geript voted for Chezinu
geript unvoted
geript voted for Rels
The Shining voted for Rels
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for KelsierSC
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for The Shining
Fidei86 voted for Rels
The Shining unvoted
The Shining voted for Fidei86
raynpelikoneet voted for Rels
Damdred voted for Fidei86
Lord Tolkien unvoted
Lord Tolkien voted for Rels
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for raynpelikoneet
Fidei86 unvoted
Fidei86 voted for ritoky
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for Fidei86
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for Fidei86
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for Yamato77
Fidei86 unvoted
Fidei86 voted for Yamato77
Fidei86 unvoted
Fidei86 voted for Yamato77
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for geript
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for raynpelikoneet
Damdred unvoted
Damdred voted for raynpelikoneet
The Shining unvoted
The Shining voted for Yamato77
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for raynpelikoneet
Fidei86 unvoted
Fidei86 voted for raynpelikoneet
Rels unvoted
Rels voted for raynpelikoneet
yamato77 voted for Yamato77
The Shining unvoted
The Shining voted for raynpelikoneet
Tubesock voted for Rels
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for The Shining
JudgeJudy unvoted
JudgeJudy voted for raynpelikoneet
Rels unvoted
Rels voted for Yamato77

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 07:36 GMT
#2229
OK listen to this

LT nuked Chezinu D2
Chezinu didn't anti nuke
yamato anti nuke

ritoky nuked Chezinu D3 late in the night
Chezinu was AFK but anti nuke

The only logical explanation is that both LT and Chezinu are mafia. The mafia team knew Chez would flip sooner or later and wanted LT to have the town cred.

Plus:

On August 25 2015 07:41 KelsierSC wrote:
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On August 25 2015 07:40 ritoky wrote:
On August 25 2015 07:36 KelsierSC wrote:
i'm too pretty to kill

my check was useless today so carry


at least say who it was and why you checked.


i checked LT and it came back mafia, like i said not useful

It's coherent with LT saying three times to check rayn + voting me with no reasonning + nuking Chez over a town vote like he said.

I'm pretty sure LT + Chez are mafia. Maybe FF too for weird cop things, unless mafia messed with his ability somehow.

##Vote Lord Tolkien
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 07:39 GMT
#2231
On August 25 2015 07:06 ritoky wrote:
I shot the jester.


So you gained the ability to shot at night with the upgrade ?

On August 25 2015 07:54 ritoky wrote:
yeah pretty much chez + LT + 1


How are you sure there are 5 mafias ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 07:41 GMT
#2233
OK Breshke sent a nuke he got from Yamato to Chezinu. One problem is that he has 2 chances out of 3 to be a bad nuke:

On August 25 2015 07:00 Onegu wrote:
When killed or lynched will give 3 random nukes out, Nukes can be Real, Fake, or Anti


OWS, I think you should nuke Chezinu too so we're sure he dies tonight.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 07:50 GMT
#2234
On August 25 2015 16:39 Breshke wrote:
Um it is possible chez received his anti nuke during the night.

Yeah. It is also more plausible that he didn't.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 08:01 GMT
#2236
On August 25 2015 16:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
Lol i didn't want to claim and then i did want to claim tictock. Breshke is mafia due to omgus

OK maybe you should nuke him instead OWS.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 08:23 GMT
#2238
FF you are claiming you had three checks right. One is your power of checking the guy you voted in the day, and one was a 1-shot free check.

Regular power N1 check: WOS green.
Regular power N2 check: geript green.
1-shot N2 upgrade check: LT no result.

OK I see why you think LT is SK.

Let's lynch LT and nuke Chez today, if LT flips SK we'll lynch KSC. If LT flips mafia we'll lynch FF.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 08:28 GMT
#2239
LT being SK would mean Chez not anti nuking D2 is not logical though.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 08:30 GMT
#2241
Serial Killer. 3rd party that wants to kill everyone else in the game. He can shoot at night, is usually bulletproof. I would also kind of makes sense that a check on him would give no result.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 08:55 GMT
#2248
LOL can try. Will do that from memory so others can add what I missed.

Nukes
The Shining: 2 nukes (1 good 1 broken). D2 launched 1 broken nuke to tubesock.
yamato77: 1 anti nuke. D2 used 1 anti nuke to protect Chezinu.
Breshke: 2 nukes (1 good 1 ??? from yamato). N2 launched 1 good nuke to tubesock.
ruxxar: 1 anti nuke.
OWS: 1 nuke (??? from yamato).
Tubesock: 1 nuke probably faked it. Onegu saying it was launched is weird though.
LT: 1 nuke (good or bad ??) 1 anti nuke (claimed). D2 launched 1 ??? nuke to Chezinu.
Chezinu: 1 anti nuke. N2 used anti nuke to protect himself.

Checks
FF: WOS green N1, geript green N2, LT no result N2.
Bill Muray: Breshke green D2.
KSC: geript green N1, LT red N2.

NK
Damdred: N1 protection claimed on geript.
ritoky: N2 shot claimed on yamato.

Weird abilities claim
FF can check the player he voted on during the night.
ritoky is given a random lynch target at the start of the day. If he complies he gets benefits.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 08:56 GMT
#2249
On August 25 2015 17:48 Breshke wrote:
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On August 25 2015 16:50 Rels wrote:
On August 25 2015 16:39 Breshke wrote:
Um it is possible chez received his anti nuke during the night.

Yeah. It is also more plausible that he didn't.


Im telling you I gave out 4 nuke/antinukes/fakenukes during the night and it is possible chez received one. So i'd say it is more plausible that if chez is mafia he didn't rely on yamato to anti nuke him and would have just done it.

Even if LT AND chez are bth mafia they dont just nuke chez and let him die if he has an anti nuke. Chez anti nukes himself LT pushes him and if he flips mafia he still looks good.

It is more plausible chez got an anti nuke from me.

Oh alright. Didn't get that.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 08:57 GMT
#2250
On August 25 2015 17:55 Fecalfeast wrote:
i don't see how lt flipping anything makes me mafia

lol think about it more then
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 09:04 GMT
#2254
On August 25 2015 18:02 Breshke wrote:
Rels jsut to clarify fake nukes still get launched and get notified by the host but just dont do anything.

Its funny cos tube mightve got his fake nuke from me

Oh ok couldn't understand why he didn't lynch him EOD2 when he was certain to be dead. So he didn't fake it, just launched a broken nuke.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 09:05 GMT
#2255
On August 25 2015 18:02 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 17:57 Rels wrote:
On August 25 2015 17:55 Fecalfeast wrote:
i don't see how lt flipping anything makes me mafia

lol think about it more then

*checks pm* ok I don't get it

You claim to not be roleblocked and to have a "no result" check on LT.
If LT flips mafia you're mafia.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 09:05 GMT
#2256
BTW I assume you got a green check on WOS N1 but can you confirm it ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 09:11 GMT
#2259
On August 25 2015 18:09 Chezinu wrote:
can I be totally not interested the first 2 days? I will be superChezinu when the good players are dead.

Do you have reads or checks or whatever you want to share ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 09:14 GMT
#2261
On August 21 2015 06:01 Chezinu wrote:
I am not up for lynching ruXxar I think. Looked ok. Ballsy at multiple places. Could be town being honest.

I guess Chezinu is a bit less present as he is used to be. But we all should go back 6 months in time and give Chezinu till Day 3. When he is mafia it gets really obvious simply because within 3 days I somewhere bled town.

I would suggest to lynch somebody who seems to be doing something but really isn't doing anything.


On August 25 2015 18:09 Chezinu wrote:
can I be totally not interested the first 2 days? I will be superChezinu when the good players are dead.

I thought you would post the mafia team on D3. Guess you're mafia since you still haven't done anything.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 09:15 GMT
#2263
OK no patience to play the interrogation game. If you have things to say you're free to post. But I'm pretty happy with the nuke going your way.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 09:20 GMT
#2267
Chez did you catch up with the thread ? If yes, you think Breshke is scum ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 09:48 GMT
#2277
I hate that we have to ask Chez his check. Plus he didn't answer my question. As I say, no patience to play the interrogation game, you speak or you don't. Hope it's not a broken nuke going for him.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 09:50 GMT
#2280
On August 25 2015 18:45 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Checks
FF: WOS green N1, geript green N2, LT no result N2.
Bill Muray: Breshke green D2.
KSC: geript green N1, LT red N2.


Can anyone think of a mechanic that makes FF and KSC's checks on LT N2 compatible? FF can't have been roleblocked, because then he wouldn't get either check result. LT can't be jailed or unvisitable or whatever, because KSC claims to have a result. The whole issue of fake checks doesn't apply, since LT was 'no resulted'.

Am I missing something?

No. One of them is 99% mafia, and we will know which one after the flip.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 10:01 GMT
#2285
Outside of check claims, I'm pretty sure LT is mafia.

If LT is mafia, FF is lying about obtaining a "no result" check, meaning is mafia trying to divert the lynch from LT to KSC.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 10:12 GMT
#2287
On August 25 2015 19:07 Fidei86 wrote:
I'm not sure that follows though - the conflict is between KSC and FF. However LT flips, that conflict remains unresolved as far as I can see. Wouldn't we be better lynching FF?

I don't understand why you say it is unresolved.
KSC claimed a red LT check. If LT is 3P, KSC is lying. If LT is town, he may be framed or KSC is lying.
FF claimed a "no result" check. If LT is town, FF is lying. If LT is mafia, FF is lying. If LT is 3P, FF tells the truth (could still be mafia).

So. If LT is:
Town: FF is lying for sure. Maybe KSC too.
3P: KSC is lying for sure.
Mafia: FF is lying for sure.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 10:28 GMT
#2288
On August 25 2015 18:41 Fidei86 wrote:
Did anyone think to ask FF why he checked geript after we already had a check from KSC? Doesn't that seem a bit of a waste to anyone? Wouldn't it be better for him to have checked KSC?

That is fucking true.
@FF
1 - can you talk to us about the logic of checking someone confirmed town by two people ?
2 - (2nd time) can you confirm you checked WOS green N1 ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 10:38 GMT
#2291
On August 25 2015 19:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
1 i did not believe KSC had an alignment check in the first place.

Then why not check him to have 2 checks in 1 ?
Did you forget Damdred claimed a prot on geript, or did you not believe it ?
On August 25 2015 19:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
2 I didn't get a pm if that's what you are asking. If you are not, wos died and flipped green yes

Why didn't you check anyone N1 ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 10:46 GMT
#2293
OK makes sense.
What about:
On August 25 2015 19:38 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 19:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
1 i did not believe KSC had an alignment check in the first place.

Then why not check him to have 2 checks in 1 ?
Did you forget Damdred claimed a prot on geript, or did you not believe it ?

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 10:51 GMT
#2296
On August 25 2015 19:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
You are assuming I think a lot harder about stuff than I do

So you thought KSC was lying.
But you didn't think anything about Damdred.
And you didn't think about checking KSC to check both KSC and geript.
Willing to lynch you tomorrow even if LT is 3P. No mafia rolecap flipped yet.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 25 2015 10:53 GMT
#2298
On August 25 2015 19:48 Fecalfeast wrote:
it sure is almost 4am though, goodnight

You answered one question out of 3. You answered the only question easy to answer.
You took the time to answer one question out of three, but didn't answer me anything about Damdred.
Rels
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August 25 2015 10:55 GMT
#2300
Beginning to think fidei is right and we need to lynch FF regardless.
OWS when you read this: can you nuke LT or FF ? We'll lynch the other.
And we'll lynch tomorrow KSC if LT is not mafia.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 25 2015 11:23 GMT
#2303
Yeah reading FF filter he does not make a single fucking sense.

1
He talked about killing KSC D2, but doesn't check him. Instead he checks geript, who is green checked + protected N1.

2
D3 he doesn't change his earlier reads and continues to put suspicions on Breshke (conf green checked).

3
He answers easy question but refuses to comment on if he forgot Damdred's protection claim.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 25 2015 11:48 GMT
#2309
Still think LT is the best lynch though.

1
Give us at least one confirmed mafia between KSC and FF.

2
3 "check rayn" posts, who turned out to be a PGO.

3
Sheeping a lynch on me with no reasonning D2.

4
Leaving but not being truly AFK (2 posts after his "bye" post) and not switching to rayn with others.

5
Nuking Chez when he said he would nuke the second town wagon.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 25 2015 14:01 GMT
#2323
LOL JJ =D

(sorry if it's not a joke)

OWS, doubling up nukes means we could waste them actually. Maybe better nuke either FF or KSC N3 when we confirm which one is lying.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 25 2015 14:04 GMT
#2324
fidei, I've given up on geript being useful. Don't see how he could be mafia. Could be 3P though with all the "I'm demotivated but posting anyway" posts. I think SK can have godfather power of being green checked.
Rels
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August 25 2015 14:09 GMT
#2327
On August 25 2015 23:06 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 22:55 Fidei86 wrote:
Ugh.............

Okay. I was so happy about this game yesterday, but it is now really starting to get draining.

Geript, why are you voting for Kelsier.

JJ, what the hell are you on about.

4 cop roles super unlikely and me no trusty

Even if KSC is lying, FF got a "no result" check on LT while not being roleblocked, which means LT not town.
So let's lynch LT THEN lynch KSC if LT is not mafia.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 25 2015 14:26 GMT
#2334
OWS: I think you should wait for LT to be lynched before nuking someone, based on this reasonning:
On August 25 2015 19:12 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 19:07 Fidei86 wrote:
I'm not sure that follows though - the conflict is between KSC and FF. However LT flips, that conflict remains unresolved as far as I can see. Wouldn't we be better lynching FF?

I don't understand why you say it is unresolved.
KSC claimed a red LT check. If LT is 3P, KSC is lying. If LT is town, he may be framed or KSC is lying.
FF claimed a "no result" check. If LT is town, FF is lying. If LT is mafia, FF is lying. If LT is 3P, FF tells the truth (could still be mafia).

So. If LT is:
Town: FF is lying for sure. Maybe KSC too.
3P: KSC is lying for sure.
Mafia: FF is lying for sure.

Rels
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August 25 2015 14:30 GMT
#2336
On August 25 2015 23:29 geript wrote:
Like nuking right now does make little sense. Like nuking chez is understandable. But a baby with the bath water approach is insane.

With this reasonning, why are you voting KSC when his check could be legit and verified ?
Rels
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August 25 2015 15:04 GMT
#2342
yes he did
Rels
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August 25 2015 17:48 GMT
#2372
On August 26 2015 01:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm just going to step away from a while because I hate just about every single person here right now.

Wait.
Can someone explain to me very simply the reasons of osw being angry like that.
Cause to me, like fidei, it looks like a mafia faking anger. Even assuming that, i dont understand the reasons on being angry.
Rels
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August 25 2015 17:57 GMT
#2376
On August 26 2015 02:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 02:48 Rels wrote:
On August 26 2015 01:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm just going to step away from a while because I hate just about every single person here right now.

Wait.
Can someone explain to me very simply the reasons of osw being angry like that.
Cause to me, like fidei, it looks like a mafia faking anger. Even assuming that, i dont understand the reasons on being angry.


Because I'm tired of getting tunneled by idiots every game.

You're super over reacting.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 25 2015 18:18 GMT
#2380
Because we will have one confirmed mafia during n3 that you can nuke.
Because damdred actually lynched a mafia.
Rels
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August 25 2015 19:19 GMT
#2394
On August 26 2015 04:03 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 18:13 Chezinu wrote:
On August 25 2015 18:11 Rels wrote:
On August 25 2015 18:09 Chezinu wrote:
can I be totally not interested the first 2 days? I will be superChezinu when the good players are dead.

Do you have reads or checks or whatever you want to share ?

I checked someone last night.

Evul wincon is evul.


To be clear to everyone, I am the roleblocker. I RNG'd my votes to obtain an upgrade of a 1-shot vigi.

Oh OK, so you rng d your vote specifically to obtain the upgrade
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 25 2015 19:21 GMT
#2396
Did anyone else knew they were going to get an upgrade if they roleplayed ? Cause I didn't
Rels
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August 25 2015 19:23 GMT
#2399
On August 26 2015 04:22 ritoky wrote:
Chez is still being nuked right? And the 3rd nuke/anti-nuke distributed from yamato hasn't been claimed yet right?

Exact. Even if geript "I will shot you with the help of a flipped person" may indicate he a got it.
Rels
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August 25 2015 19:25 GMT
#2400
On August 26 2015 04:23 ritoky wrote:
Don't care about your skepticism. Chez didn't investigate shit, he did nothing last night.

Even better nuke that I thought then
Rels
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August 25 2015 19:29 GMT
#2403
Meh. Someone shutting it down is someone claiming mafia. Unless that someone is lt about to get lynched.
Rels
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August 25 2015 19:37 GMT
#2408
That qt ?
Rels
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August 25 2015 19:49 GMT
#2414
Tmi. Really, tmi in my head right now. Time to sleep.

I'll reread that tomorrow to make sure I didn't imagined it
Rels
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August 25 2015 19:51 GMT
#2416
"Them" is such a creepy word. Hope you're not terrified geript
Rels
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August 25 2015 19:53 GMT
#2419
Hahaha the tmi is real
I love this game
Rels
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August 25 2015 20:07 GMT
#2428
I wanna know who "they" are sooo bad
Rels
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August 25 2015 20:11 GMT
#2432
You could ask what HTS means
Rels
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August 25 2015 20:14 GMT
#2436
Outside of all ghostly consideration, I'm pretty sure lt is mafia. Made a case somewhere on why. Plus something like 20 hours ago he said he would be back in 10 and fucked off.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 25 2015 20:15 GMT
#2437
On August 26 2015 05:13 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 05:11 Rels wrote:
You could ask what HTS means

Idk what you mean.

If she knows its half the sky she's confirmed.
But sssshhh don't tell the bad guys.
Rels
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August 25 2015 20:39 GMT
#2443
On August 26 2015 05:30 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 05:14 Rels wrote:
Outside of all ghostly consideration, I'm pretty sure lt is mafia. Made a case somewhere on why. Plus something like 20 hours ago he said he would be back in 10 and fucked off.

Let's pretend it is mafia. Who's the biggest thread to mafia? Especially when they're down a few members? SK. Period. Mafia can get blamed with SK shit. SK is a 'waste' of mafia kp; SK often is protected (either 1-shot vest or blank immunity). Plus SK quite often kill mafia as much as town (even if not meaning to). Plus it's far more common for mafia to push 3P than anyone else. Like I don't care if it is mafia. Look at his voting. Look at the deaths. Look at the random shit he's claimed. None of it adds up. Plus wave thought Tube was mafia and LT town; he has good games. I think he had a good game this one. Like we can trust the dead at least a little.

Plus, like this could literally save lives. It's quite likely that nk power drops if he's mafia vigi/SK. It's worth a shot. Better than anything else.

That makes sense right now. Except if lt is mafia like your hypothesis says, then ff is confirmed not town. And everything becomes weird.

Will think about it while sleeping.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 26 2015 06:50 GMT
#2555
Lt check on damdred is not believable for me. Fidei confirmed damdred to be 3p so it was useless.
Lt claim to be vt is not believable for me. We all have abilities outside of nuke. Seems like a mafia not knowing what to claim.
Wasn't convinced by his reads too.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 26 2015 08:38 GMT
#2556
Maybe FF's weird posts can be explained by him roleplaying. But if that's the case, I have no idea who he is trying to be.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 26 2015 09:01 GMT
#2565
On August 26 2015 05:38 geript wrote:
They've made 4 posts. I don't recognize the style at all. Let me double check the time stamps thing. I got it early N 2. I didn't recognize it at first bc I thought Onegu was giving me a warning for kinda being an ass and bitching about shit.

How could I miss such a funny post last night.
I'm giggling right now (=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 26 2015 09:05 GMT
#2566
On August 26 2015 06:02 geript wrote:
Like to explain. That's like a classic rsoultin phrase in response to the who "she's harder to lynch because she's a girl" bs that popped up a bit around gaiden. Remember Marv's nickname for her? Mafia suicide inducer. Plus with as often as she's rolled scum as of late it makes perfect sense.

And this is sooo clever. KSC has to be rsoultin I agree. Maybe that makes a lot of sense. I actually think KSC is a mafia vig and LT a SK.
Best course of action IMO is lynch LT (confirmed not town + clarifie some stuff) and nuke + ritoky roleblock KSC in the night.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 26 2015 09:08 GMT
#2567
Mm. That makes no sense with LT wanting to check rayn 3 times.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 26 2015 09:10 GMT
#2568
Whatever we have a roleblock and LT's alignment and role will give info on FF. Still thinking LT is the best lynch, but I think LT is mafia, and KSC is either mafia vig or SK.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 26 2015 09:17 GMT
#2569
WTF Chez

On August 26 2015 09:56 Chezinu wrote:
Lord Tolkien

How is his attitude green ? And how do you explain two contradictory checks ?

On August 26 2015 09:56 Chezinu wrote:
Breshke

Last post talking about Breshke before the list had him as mafia ? And after this post you attack him again ?
On August 26 2015 10:13 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 10:13 Breshke wrote:
LT I'm kinda confused. You are saying you had no abilities whatsoever before your upgrade?

Also all the nukes that were received during the middle of the night were from me. Interesting that some people haven't claimed them do you want me to out you? You should claim now.

OH KNOW YOU ATTEMPTING THAT YOU GAVE ME THE ANTI-NUKE!?!?!?


Chez cannot possible be town. WTF too many not-town players in this game.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 26 2015 09:23 GMT
#2571
Lord Tolkien in the last 12 hours

1
LT promised some reads in the first post he came back but never gave them. Instead he spent hours talking about his abilities and defending himself.
2
LT claimed to check Damdred last night when it is an idiotic check. His explanation for that is in his last game, a townie fakeclaimed a 3P ... did he seriously believe Damdred was actually town.
3
LT being VT is not believable in this setup.
4
LT tried to explain the contradictory checks by saying FF got roleblocked, which is not the case. When corrected, he dropped the subject to talk about something else.

In addition to the other stuff (3 posts wanting to check rayn, not nuking the 2nd town wagon, sheeping a vote on me with excuses to be semi AFK at deadline D2).

@LT: Only you can explain the "no result" check of FF, so I suggest you make up a town role that returns "no result" to check really fast so I can laugh.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 26 2015 09:25 GMT
#2572
On August 26 2015 18:19 Tictock wrote:
Ugh, Breshke is the only one making sense right now.

Tbh old mason buddy I think I'd anti nuke chez if I could.

I don't really have reasons why, just going with my gut.

I wouldn't. Don't think he's mafia 'cause LT nuked him when Chez didn't have antinuke, but he's definitely not town.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 26 2015 09:27 GMT
#2573
Plus ritoky claimed Chez lied about his check, so at least one of them is not-town.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 26 2015 09:44 GMT
#2575
On August 26 2015 18:39 Tictock wrote:
KSC is pretty clearly town imo.

Would love to see a town case on him.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 26 2015 09:56 GMT
#2578
On August 26 2015 18:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 17:38 Rels wrote:
Maybe FF's weird posts can be explained by him roleplaying. But if that's the case, I have no idea who he is trying to be.

?????????????

Your thought less posts, in particular how you claimed your checks, you only answered certain questions and your attack on 99÷ town breshke are weird to me for a townie.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 09:57 GMT
#2579
So I was thinking maybe you have a personality who omgus a lot
Rels
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August 26 2015 10:02 GMT
#2580
BTW: when you checked geript N2, did you forget Damdred claimed prot on him N1 ?
Rels
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August 26 2015 10:53 GMT
#2586
So ksc did nothing except vote early on a mafia and checked people. Dunno how you can townread him while being suspicious of jj at the same time. But we ll have more info with the flip
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 26 2015 11:26 GMT
#2588
On August 26 2015 19:29 Chezinu wrote:
Save the Chez!

Nuke the Fez!

I know I shoudn't have expected you to answer my interrogation.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 26 2015 11:30 GMT
#2590
On August 26 2015 20:28 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 20:26 Rels wrote:
On August 26 2015 19:29 Chezinu wrote:
Save the Chez!

Nuke the Fez!

I know I shoudn't have expected you to answer my interrogation.

You must be starting to feel like the last sane man in the asylum (I already do...)

Actually I'm enjoying this game (= loving the mysteries. Really hope the ending will not be a disappointing scooby doo relevation!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 26 2015 11:47 GMT
#2594
On August 26 2015 20:45 Fidei86 wrote:
@Rels In my view, LT basically being AFK ever since the wagon on him solidified only makes it more likely he's mafia, right? Town would presumably try and fight the lynch, whereas mafia (knowing that they are guilty) might well feel there's nothing they can say to exonerate themselves?

Agree. Plus town could also try to push lynches on someone else. During the hours he was active yesterday, he only softpushed Chez; the rest of his posts are not analysis or reads or pushes.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 26 2015 12:05 GMT
#2596
On August 26 2015 20:57 Fidei86 wrote:
Has Chezinu actually claimed who he checked n2? I can't see it in his filter, but I've been known to miss things.

On August 25 2015 18:49 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 18:46 Fidei86 wrote:
@Chez who did you check and what was the result?

I received a pm stating said person was 3P and was dead.

So yamato77.

Wow wait a minute. FF checked WOS N1 and didn't get a PM 'cause WOS died.

On August 25 2015 19:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
2 I didn't get a pm if that's what you are asking. If you are not, wos died and flipped green yes


LOL So once again on of Chez and FF is lying.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 26 2015 12:06 GMT
#2597
EBWOP one of Chez / FF*
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 26 2015 12:10 GMT
#2600
Are you seeing what I see or is there nothing.
Chezinu claimed to have receive a PM for a check on a player that died.
FF claimed to NOT receive a PM for a check on a player that died.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 26 2015 12:11 GMT
#2601
Plus it makes sense to not get a PM for a check on a dead guy right. So it is yet another thing against Chezinu.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 26 2015 12:26 GMT
#2609
Alright lots of work for me to do this afternoon so won't be very active. For the US later, here are what I think about some people:

LT is non-town, probably mafia:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 26 2015 18:23 Rels wrote:
Lord Tolkien in the last 12 hours

1
LT promised some reads in the first post he came back but never gave them. Instead he spent hours talking about his abilities and defending himself.
2
LT claimed to check Damdred last night when it is an idiotic check. His explanation for that is in his last game, a townie fakeclaimed a 3P ... did he seriously believe Damdred was actually town.
3
LT being VT is not believable in this setup.
4
LT tried to explain the contradictory checks by saying FF got roleblocked, which is not the case. When corrected, he dropped the subject to talk about something else.

In addition to the other stuff (3 posts wanting to check rayn, not nuking the 2nd town wagon, sheeping a vote on me with excuses to be semi AFK at deadline D2).

@LT: Only you can explain the "no result" check of FF, so I suggest you make up a town role that returns "no result" to check really fast so I can laugh.



Chezinu is non-town (juicy theory about dead player check PM!):
+ Show Spoiler +

Only serious post is his list post which is non coherent with the game. He also didn't answer my interrogation.
On August 26 2015 18:17 Rels wrote:
WTF Chez

Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 09:56 Chezinu wrote:
Lord Tolkien

How is his attitude green ? And how do you explain two contradictory checks ?

Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 09:56 Chezinu wrote:
Breshke

Last post talking about Breshke before the list had him as mafia ? And after this post you attack him again ?
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 10:13 Chezinu wrote:
On August 26 2015 10:13 Breshke wrote:
LT I'm kinda confused. You are saying you had no abilities whatsoever before your upgrade?

Also all the nukes that were received during the middle of the night were from me. Interesting that some people haven't claimed them do you want me to out you? You should claim now.

OH KNOW YOU ATTEMPTING THAT YOU GAVE ME THE ANTI-NUKE!?!?!?


Chez cannot possible be town. WTF too many not-town players in this game.

On August 26 2015 21:05 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 20:57 Fidei86 wrote:
Has Chezinu actually claimed who he checked n2? I can't see it in his filter, but I've been known to miss things.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 18:49 Chezinu wrote:
On August 25 2015 18:46 Fidei86 wrote:
@Chez who did you check and what was the result?

I received a pm stating said person was 3P and was dead.

So yamato77.

Wow wait a minute. FF checked WOS N1 and didn't get a PM 'cause WOS died.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 19:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
2 I didn't get a pm if that's what you are asking. If you are not, wos died and flipped green yes


LOL So once again on of Chez and FF is lying.




KSC may be non-town, LT's flip will give info:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 26 2015 18:05 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 06:02 geript wrote:
Like to explain. That's like a classic rsoultin phrase in response to the who "she's harder to lynch because she's a girl" bs that popped up a bit around gaiden. Remember Marv's nickname for her? Mafia suicide inducer. Plus with as often as she's rolled scum as of late it makes perfect sense.

And this is sooo clever. KSC has to be rsoultin I agree. Maybe that makes a lot of sense. I actually think KSC is a mafia vig and LT a SK.
Best course of action IMO is lynch LT (confirmed not town + clarifie some stuff) and nuke + ritoky roleblock KSC in the night.

On August 26 2015 18:08 Rels wrote:
Mm. That makes no sense with LT wanting to check rayn 3 times.

On August 26 2015 18:10 Rels wrote:
Whatever we have a roleblock and LT's alignment and role will give info on FF. Still thinking LT is the best lynch, but I think LT is mafia, and KSC is either mafia vig or SK.

On August 26 2015 19:53 Rels wrote:
So ksc did nothing except vote early on a mafia and checked people. Dunno how you can townread him while being suspicious of jj at the same time. But we ll have more info with the flip


Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 26 2015 12:40 GMT
#2616
On August 26 2015 21:36 Tictock wrote:
Rels your right that FF and Chez are directly opposing each other, one must be lying.

Doesn't the fact that FF's null check on LT is also in conflict with KSC's redcheck mean that FF is the most likely to be lying here?

Don't forget Chez is also in contradiction with ritoky's claim to roleblock Chez, so if you go by the number, both FF and Chez have two "fights". =D
And if I have to choose who to keep between KSC / Chez and ritoky / FF based on contribution to the game, I choose ritoky / FF every time.
Last thing, Chez + LT flipping will give infos on KSC, FF and ritoky in one go, which is super good.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 26 2015 12:50 GMT
#2620
TT I don't understand that blind faith on Chez + KSC, while suspecting JJ and ritoky. I could understand your doubts about Chez and KSC being 100% mafia, but not that hard townread you seem to give them.
LT nuking Chez only suggests Chez is not in the same team as LT, not that Chez is town. Chez did nothing, and his only serious post is non coherent with the game.

Starting now, if you want to talk about Chezinu being town, answer the questions I asked him first.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 26 2015 12:54 GMT
#2623
Somewhere last page in my post rassembling thoughts.
Rels
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August 26 2015 12:58 GMT
#2626
On August 26 2015 21:56 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 18:17 Rels wrote:
WTF Chez

On August 26 2015 09:56 Chezinu wrote:
Lord Tolkien

How is his attitude green ? And how do you explain two contradictory checks ?

On August 26 2015 09:56 Chezinu wrote:
Breshke

Last post talking about Breshke before the list had him as mafia ? And after this post you attack him again ?
On August 26 2015 10:13 Chezinu wrote:
On August 26 2015 10:13 Breshke wrote:
LT I'm kinda confused. You are saying you had no abilities whatsoever before your upgrade?

Also all the nukes that were received during the middle of the night were from me. Interesting that some people haven't claimed them do you want me to out you? You should claim now.

OH KNOW YOU ATTEMPTING THAT YOU GAVE ME THE ANTI-NUKE!?!?!?


Chez cannot possible be town. WTF too many not-town players in this game.

Breshke is obv green cause gives me anti-nuke and knows stuff.

Calling Lord green was in hopes of somehow obtaining an anti-nuke from mafia in hopes of saving myself by pretending 3P.

So you're thinking LT is mafia. Why is KSC mafia then.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 26 2015 12:59 GMT
#2629
On August 26 2015 21:58 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 21:58 Rels wrote:
On August 26 2015 21:56 Chezinu wrote:
On August 26 2015 18:17 Rels wrote:
WTF Chez

On August 26 2015 09:56 Chezinu wrote:
Lord Tolkien

How is his attitude green ? And how do you explain two contradictory checks ?

On August 26 2015 09:56 Chezinu wrote:
Breshke

Last post talking about Breshke before the list had him as mafia ? And after this post you attack him again ?
On August 26 2015 10:13 Chezinu wrote:
On August 26 2015 10:13 Breshke wrote:
LT I'm kinda confused. You are saying you had no abilities whatsoever before your upgrade?

Also all the nukes that were received during the middle of the night were from me. Interesting that some people haven't claimed them do you want me to out you? You should claim now.

OH KNOW YOU ATTEMPTING THAT YOU GAVE ME THE ANTI-NUKE!?!?!?


Chez cannot possible be town. WTF too many not-town players in this game.

Breshke is obv green cause gives me anti-nuke and knows stuff.

Calling Lord green was in hopes of somehow obtaining an anti-nuke from mafia in hopes of saving myself by pretending 3P.

So you're thinking LT is mafia. Why is KSC mafia then.


That was a hunch because KSC helped save me day 1. Like, how he know I'm town?

Can't remember KSC doing anything this game, so I would very much like sources on that.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 26 2015 13:01 GMT
#2631
So: both checks on LT are fake, KSC and FF's. But LT is actually mafia.
I don't see how you could actually believe that.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 26 2015 13:04 GMT
#2634
On August 26 2015 22:02 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:01 Rels wrote:
So: both checks on LT are fake, KSC and FF's. But LT is actually mafia.
I don't see how you could actually believe that.


WHAT IF "No Result" was real. what if LT is uncheckable b/c special mafia ability? *Note: I was first to state this*

LOL you're fucking kidding
Of course that's a fucking possibility
Not one you actually said in your fucking serious mode post though
On August 26 2015 09:56 Chezinu wrote:
Here, yall have fun and decide if yall want to help me out.

Fecalfeastt

I have finally stopped RPing. I believe I went the longest out of everyone here.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 13:13 GMT
#2639
On August 26 2015 22:10 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:04 Rels wrote:

Wow, Chez you were the first one to notice. You are amazing and the best player of all time. I am no match for understanding you in the full context of your posts. Therefore, I have to manipulate your posts for the betterment of my arguments.



Aww, thanks. I know I'm the Bestest!

OK that made me laugh =D
Still wants you to flip though. I don't understand you. For me, the only way you're town is if your wincon is to get killed by a mafia. The fact that you claimed to receive a PM for a N2 check when:
- that player was killed
- ritoky said he roleblocked you

PLUS now you're telling me you think FF is town. BUT FF said a check on a dead player doesn't give player. There is no way you can think he's town.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 13:46 GMT
#2649
Outside of the game, I'm interested: what did Chez to look like Koshi ? Cause I don't know that guy at all.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 13:55 GMT
#2652
On August 26 2015 22:51 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:46 Rels wrote:
Outside of the game, I'm interested: what did Chez to look like Koshi ? Cause I don't know that guy at all.

Day 1 and Day 2 are nothing but Koshi quotes with me changing out a few names. I think I might have 1 or 2 posts mixed in with the quotes.

Seriously ??? That's fucking impressive
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 15:13 GMT
#2662
no I believe in the ritoky roleblock
really his posts last night changed my mind about him, pretty sure he's town
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 15:52 GMT
#2666
^ it really aligns with what I think. Except the ritoky bit, I like ritoky more than you.
One thing: when/if LT flips mafia, chez is town for you ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 15:54 GMT
#2667
Cause either Chez or FF is lying, so if Chez is town, he *knows* FF is not-town. But Chez called the possibility of FF being town when discussing with me earlier. I cannot see a town player forgetting something obvious like that.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 16:00 GMT
#2671
On August 27 2015 00:57 JudgeJudy wrote:
[image loading]

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On August 27 2015 00:52 Rels wrote:
^ it really aligns with what I think. Except the ritoky bit, I like ritoky more than you.
One thing: when/if LT flips mafia, chez is town for you ?


Unless there is a good explanation for why LT would nuke chez on day two (maybe LT flips with a fake nuke or something?), then yeah I think chez would be town.

Who would you pick in place of ritoky then Rels?

Mafia team:
LT
KSC
Then maybe:
FF (is there is no explanation for the "no result" in LT's role)
OWS (if there is one more mafia)
ritoky (if Chezinu is actually town)

Not-town:
Chezinu
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 16:02 GMT
#2672
On August 27 2015 00:59 JudgeJudy wrote:
[image loading]

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On August 27 2015 00:54 Rels wrote:
Cause either Chez or FF is lying, so if Chez is town, he *knows* FF is not-town. But Chez called the possibility of FF being town when discussing with me earlier. I cannot see a town player forgetting something obvious like that.


Could you elaborate on the part where town chez knows FF isn't town? I think I may have missed that part.

On August 26 2015 21:05 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 20:57 Fidei86 wrote:
Has Chezinu actually claimed who he checked n2? I can't see it in his filter, but I've been known to miss things.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 18:49 Chezinu wrote:
On August 25 2015 18:46 Fidei86 wrote:
@Chez who did you check and what was the result?

I received a pm stating said person was 3P and was dead.

So yamato77.

Wow wait a minute. FF checked WOS N1 and didn't get a PM 'cause WOS died.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 19:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
2 I didn't get a pm if that's what you are asking. If you are not, wos died and flipped green yes


LOL So once again on of Chez and FF is lying.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 16:03 GMT
#2673
Plus other stuff, everything is here:

On August 26 2015 21:26 Rels wrote:
Alright lots of work for me to do this afternoon so won't be very active. For the US later, here are what I think about some people:

LT is non-town, probably mafia:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 26 2015 18:23 Rels wrote:
Lord Tolkien in the last 12 hours

1
LT promised some reads in the first post he came back but never gave them. Instead he spent hours talking about his abilities and defending himself.
2
LT claimed to check Damdred last night when it is an idiotic check. His explanation for that is in his last game, a townie fakeclaimed a 3P ... did he seriously believe Damdred was actually town.
3
LT being VT is not believable in this setup.
4
LT tried to explain the contradictory checks by saying FF got roleblocked, which is not the case. When corrected, he dropped the subject to talk about something else.

In addition to the other stuff (3 posts wanting to check rayn, not nuking the 2nd town wagon, sheeping a vote on me with excuses to be semi AFK at deadline D2).

@LT: Only you can explain the "no result" check of FF, so I suggest you make up a town role that returns "no result" to check really fast so I can laugh.



Chezinu is non-town (juicy theory about dead player check PM!):
+ Show Spoiler +

Only serious post is his list post which is non coherent with the game. He also didn't answer my interrogation.
On August 26 2015 18:17 Rels wrote:
WTF Chez

Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 09:56 Chezinu wrote:
Lord Tolkien

How is his attitude green ? And how do you explain two contradictory checks ?

Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 09:56 Chezinu wrote:
Breshke

Last post talking about Breshke before the list had him as mafia ? And after this post you attack him again ?
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 10:13 Chezinu wrote:
On August 26 2015 10:13 Breshke wrote:
LT I'm kinda confused. You are saying you had no abilities whatsoever before your upgrade?

Also all the nukes that were received during the middle of the night were from me. Interesting that some people haven't claimed them do you want me to out you? You should claim now.

OH KNOW YOU ATTEMPTING THAT YOU GAVE ME THE ANTI-NUKE!?!?!?


Chez cannot possible be town. WTF too many not-town players in this game.

On August 26 2015 21:05 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 20:57 Fidei86 wrote:
Has Chezinu actually claimed who he checked n2? I can't see it in his filter, but I've been known to miss things.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 18:49 Chezinu wrote:
On August 25 2015 18:46 Fidei86 wrote:
@Chez who did you check and what was the result?

I received a pm stating said person was 3P and was dead.

So yamato77.

Wow wait a minute. FF checked WOS N1 and didn't get a PM 'cause WOS died.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 19:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
2 I didn't get a pm if that's what you are asking. If you are not, wos died and flipped green yes


LOL So once again on of Chez and FF is lying.




KSC may be non-town, LT's flip will give info:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 26 2015 18:05 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 06:02 geript wrote:
Like to explain. That's like a classic rsoultin phrase in response to the who "she's harder to lynch because she's a girl" bs that popped up a bit around gaiden. Remember Marv's nickname for her? Mafia suicide inducer. Plus with as often as she's rolled scum as of late it makes perfect sense.

And this is sooo clever. KSC has to be rsoultin I agree. Maybe that makes a lot of sense. I actually think KSC is a mafia vig and LT a SK.
Best course of action IMO is lynch LT (confirmed not town + clarifie some stuff) and nuke + ritoky roleblock KSC in the night.

On August 26 2015 18:08 Rels wrote:
Mm. That makes no sense with LT wanting to check rayn 3 times.

On August 26 2015 18:10 Rels wrote:
Whatever we have a roleblock and LT's alignment and role will give info on FF. Still thinking LT is the best lynch, but I think LT is mafia, and KSC is either mafia vig or SK.

On August 26 2015 19:53 Rels wrote:
So ksc did nothing except vote early on a mafia and checked people. Dunno how you can townread him while being suspicious of jj at the same time. But we ll have more info with the flip



Leaving work so afk for more or less 1 hour.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 16:05 GMT
#2674
His response to LT being green in his lynch list was "I was faking it so the mafia team would anti nuke me", which I don't believe for a second.

On August 26 2015 21:56 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 18:17 Rels wrote:
WTF Chez

On August 26 2015 09:56 Chezinu wrote:
Lord Tolkien

How is his attitude green ? And how do you explain two contradictory checks ?

On August 26 2015 09:56 Chezinu wrote:
Breshke

Last post talking about Breshke before the list had him as mafia ? And after this post you attack him again ?
On August 26 2015 10:13 Chezinu wrote:
On August 26 2015 10:13 Breshke wrote:
LT I'm kinda confused. You are saying you had no abilities whatsoever before your upgrade?

Also all the nukes that were received during the middle of the night were from me. Interesting that some people haven't claimed them do you want me to out you? You should claim now.

OH KNOW YOU ATTEMPTING THAT YOU GAVE ME THE ANTI-NUKE!?!?!?


Chez cannot possible be town. WTF too many not-town players in this game.

Breshke is obv green cause gives me anti-nuke and knows stuff.

Calling Lord green was in hopes of somehow obtaining an anti-nuke from mafia in hopes of saving myself by pretending 3P.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 16:55 GMT
#2678
I think chez is mafia. But the great thing if he flips town is that ff is confirmed mafia and ritoky is almost confirmed mafia.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 20:02 GMT
#2694
On August 27 2015 04:56 Chezinu wrote:
Look into rik and ff as well. I caught them both lying, thus why rel wants me dead.

That's not true though.
1 - Ritoky counter claimed you.
2 - You first said FF was lying, but then entertained the idea of LT not being checkable.

What's true is that you could be town, and that would mean FF is 100% mafia (for saying he didn't get a PM for WOS N1) and ritoky is 99% mafia (for saying he roleblocked you).
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 20:09 GMT
#2697
On August 27 2015 05:03 Chezinu wrote:
Guys we should lynch Rels after I die because he thinks geript is mafia.

I had a hard time townreading him but I do now.

On August 27 2015 05:03 Chezinu wrote:
Because if you read my filter, I say ff is likely mafia

Initially. Then when talking to me:
On August 26 2015 22:02 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:01 Rels wrote:
So: both checks on LT are fake, KSC and FF's. But LT is actually mafia.
I don't see how you could actually believe that.


WHAT IF "No Result" was real. what if LT is uncheckable b/c special mafia ability? *Note: I was first to state this*

And now you go back to FF mafia.

On August 27 2015 05:03 Chezinu wrote:
but if you read Rels he says I think ff is town.

I don't. Source in spoiler. I'm waiting for LT's role reveal to see if the "no result" is possible.
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 25 2015 19:55 Rels wrote:
Beginning to think fidei is right and we need to lynch FF regardless.
OWS when you read this: can you nuke LT or FF ? We'll lynch the other.
And we'll lynch tomorrow KSC if LT is not mafia.

On August 25 2015 20:23 Rels wrote:
Yeah reading FF filter he does not make a single fucking sense.

1
He talked about killing KSC D2, but doesn't check him. Instead he checks geript, who is green checked + protected N1.

2
D3 he doesn't change his earlier reads and continues to put suspicions on Breshke (conf green checked).

3
He answers easy question but refuses to comment on if he forgot Damdred's protection claim.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 20:10 GMT
#2698
Don't know why you aren't pushing FF and ritoky harder than that since they both say things completely impossible if you're town.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 20:15 GMT
#2703
On August 27 2015 05:12 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 05:10 Rels wrote:
Don't know why you aren't pushing FF and ritoky harder than that since they both say things completely impossible if you're town.

I have too many mafia suspects. Too many people lying. Fight town, brown, and mafia is hard.

LOL
You can suspect me that's true.
But FF said something you know IS NOT POSSIBLE (getting no PM from dead player check)
And ritoky claimed he ROLEBLOCKED YOU
If you are town they are CONFIRMED MAFIA (99% for ritoky 'cause he could be naive or roleblocked himself or something else that has 0.01% chance of happening)
WHY are you focusing on me when you have two confirmed mafia
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 20:18 GMT
#2705
On August 27 2015 05:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
rels in your second spoiler quote, please provide me with what you think 'continuing to put suspicions on breshke' is?

This one, Chez claimed later he still townread him so I suppose he's saying it's not an attack:
On August 26 2015 10:13 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 10:13 Breshke wrote:
LT I'm kinda confused. You are saying you had no abilities whatsoever before your upgrade?

Also all the nukes that were received during the middle of the night were from me. Interesting that some people haven't claimed them do you want me to out you? You should claim now.

OH KNOW YOU ATTEMPTING THAT YOU GAVE ME THE ANTI-NUKE!?!?!?



On August 27 2015 05:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
What information does me saying that I forgot about damdred's protection claim or saying I think damdred is full of shit this game?

No at the time of this case you didn't answer my question which I found weird. Now I don't care anymore since your alignment will be confirmed with the flips.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 20:19 GMT
#2706
On August 27 2015 05:17 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 05:15 Rels wrote:
On August 27 2015 05:12 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 05:10 Rels wrote:
Don't know why you aren't pushing FF and ritoky harder than that since they both say things completely impossible if you're town.

I have too many mafia suspects. Too many people lying. Fight town, brown, and mafia is hard.

LOL
You can suspect me that's true.
But FF said something you know IS NOT POSSIBLE (getting no PM from dead player check)
And ritoky claimed he ROLEBLOCKED YOU
If you are town they are CONFIRMED MAFIA (99% for ritoky 'cause he could be naive or roleblocked himself or something else that has 0.01% chance of happening)
WHY are you focusing on me when you have two confirmed mafia

Do you know LT is town? It seems like you do. Despite thinking he is mafia. If LT is town and not uncheckable mafia, then maybe ff is mafia.

You seem to have missed the point so I will write it again.

FF said something you know IS NOT POSSIBLE (getting no PM from dead player check)
And ritoky claimed he ROLEBLOCKED YOU
If you are town they are CONFIRMED MAFIA (99% for ritoky 'cause he could be naive or roleblocked himself or something else that has 0.01% chance of happening)
WHY are you focusing on me when you have two confirmed mafia
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 20:20 GMT
#2708
On August 27 2015 05:19 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 05:18 Rels wrote:
On August 27 2015 05:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
rels in your second spoiler quote, please provide me with what you think 'continuing to put suspicions on breshke' is?

This one, Chez claimed later he still townread him so I suppose he's saying it's not an attack:
On August 26 2015 10:13 Chezinu wrote:
On August 26 2015 10:13 Breshke wrote:
LT I'm kinda confused. You are saying you had no abilities whatsoever before your upgrade?

Also all the nukes that were received during the middle of the night were from me. Interesting that some people haven't claimed them do you want me to out you? You should claim now.

OH KNOW YOU ATTEMPTING THAT YOU GAVE ME THE ANTI-NUKE!?!?!?



On August 27 2015 05:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
What information does me saying that I forgot about damdred's protection claim or saying I think damdred is full of shit this game?

No at the time of this case you didn't answer my question which I found weird. Now I don't care anymore since your alignment will be confirmed with the flips.

I would say giving me anti-nukes is a town thing to do.

He fucking said it was fucking random
RTFT
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 20:22 GMT
#2711
On August 27 2015 05:20 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 05:19 Rels wrote:
On August 27 2015 05:17 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 05:15 Rels wrote:
On August 27 2015 05:12 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 05:10 Rels wrote:
Don't know why you aren't pushing FF and ritoky harder than that since they both say things completely impossible if you're town.

I have too many mafia suspects. Too many people lying. Fight town, brown, and mafia is hard.

LOL
You can suspect me that's true.
But FF said something you know IS NOT POSSIBLE (getting no PM from dead player check)
And ritoky claimed he ROLEBLOCKED YOU
If you are town they are CONFIRMED MAFIA (99% for ritoky 'cause he could be naive or roleblocked himself or something else that has 0.01% chance of happening)
WHY are you focusing on me when you have two confirmed mafia

Do you know LT is town? It seems like you do. Despite thinking he is mafia. If LT is town and not uncheckable mafia, then maybe ff is mafia.

You seem to have missed the point so I will write it again.

FF said something you know IS NOT POSSIBLE (getting no PM from dead player check)
And ritoky claimed he ROLEBLOCKED YOU
If you are town they are CONFIRMED MAFIA (99% for ritoky 'cause he could be naive or roleblocked himself or something else that has 0.01% chance of happening)
WHY are you focusing on me when you have two confirmed mafia


It won't save me. They are in line to get lynched/nuke next. Not too big a deal if I die (except for my personal win con).

Alright cool (= if you're town I promise I will get them lynched.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 20:46 GMT
#2716
On August 27 2015 05:42 geript wrote:
Bad headache. I think you lynch wrong guy. Idk why. Kinda trust wave.

Is this something he said from the last 24 hours
Cause his posts when he was posting like 20 hours ago were only defensive. In his first one he even said he would be reviewing but never did:
On August 26 2015 09:12 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 08:06 ritoky wrote:
On August 26 2015 07:56 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Alright, I'm up. Are you guys lynching me yet?

I'll answer any questions you guys have.


You're currently in the lead of votes.

Have you read the thread? Who is mafia? Why are they mafia?

I'll get back to you on that. Reviewing all my old reads now that I have time to filterdive again.

Reviewing.

He also said FF was roleblocked to explain the "no result", someone corrected him, and he never commented on it again while talking about something else.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 21:31 GMT
#2720
wanted to stay active until deadline but i'm getting sleepy
may fall asleep in the 30 minutes. Hoping for no weird switches. Don't see how that could happen but please don't
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 21:52 GMT
#2737
Ok here to see the flip
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 21:53 GMT
#2738
Lt not voting makes me sure he s gonna anti nuke if he does have one
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 22:09 GMT
#2747
So. Nuke chez tonight with ows nuke and lynch ff tomorrow seems like the best plan.
Let's see if damdred dies too
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 22:11 GMT
#2748
Good lynch and good night
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 22:12 GMT
#2752
Cause ksc is voting you
Don't know why chez is not helping town and throwing suspicion. He s a smart guy so he could lie about his win con ? Maybe nuke ff is better
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 22:14 GMT
#2754
Did both brown members just turned on me at the same time
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 22:18 GMT
#2757
Chez are you telling the truth now ? (3p that needs to see someone get modkilled ?)

If yes are you OK helping the town ?

If yes did you really check geript n2 ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 22:19 GMT
#2759
Oops. Yamato ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 22:23 GMT
#2761
OK so ff is probably mafia for having a "no result" check not explained by lt role.
Ff mafia probably means chez is 3p and not mafia. This is improved by lt nuking chez.
Chez not lying means ritoky is probably mafia.

Nuking ff is a super good play here. More or less confirm chez 3p and rit mafia
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 22:25 GMT
#2762
Chez your wincon is seeing a modkilled ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 22:33 GMT
#2764
Alright good night. Chez can you confirm your wincon judt q yes is enough
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 05:59 GMT
#2808
In bed at the moment so this will quick: lt nuke was fake so nuke chez. In his point of view, he knows ff and ritoky are lying but doesn't push them, so he either doesn't card about the town or is mafia. Thought he was 3p for the lt nuke, turned out it was fake. Nuke chez.

See you in a little bit
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 06:01 GMT
#2809
Plus it s we awesome the guy already survived 3 nukes ... This game could go to history for the 4 nukes to the chez!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 06:09 GMT
#2811
Plus remember the guy out LT as green in his first serious post of the game D3. When asked about that be said it was a bait so mafia anti nuke him. When pushing for me last night he also said "you know lt is town" which is so weird. He was never convinced by the push.
If chez survived a 4th nuke I might be super impressed.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 07:17 GMT
#2815
On August 27 2015 16:09 Breshke wrote:
But yeah. I think Obi should nuke chez. I don't really see how any other nukes are better

+++

Good catch on LT having a fake nuke BTW (=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 08:03 GMT
#2816
Vote recaps colored with flips


Day 1 final vote

ruXxar (7): Breshke, Half the Sky, Rels, ObiWanShinobi, WaveofShadow, Lord Tolkien, ObiWanShinobi, Lord Tolkien, Damdred, Half the Sky, Chezinu, Rels
Chezinu (5): geript, JudgeJudy, ObiWanShinobi, WaveofShadow, Lord Tolkien, Tubesock, Fidei86, yamato77, FecalFeast, KelscierSC
Tubesock (2): The Shining, Rels, Chezinu, WaveofShadow, Lord Tolkien
Fidei86 (2): ritoky, Tubesock, The Shining, Tictock, Rels
ObiWanShinobi (1): ruXxar
WaveofShadow (1): FecalFeast
Half the Sky (1): KelsierSC
Damdred (0): Fecalfeast, Fecalfeast, ruXxar, Chezinu, Fecalfeast, KelsierSC
VayneAuthority (0): Lord Tolkien
yamato77 (0): FecalFeast, Tubesock

Not Voting (2): VayneAuthority, Beneather

Day 1 vote recap
+ Show Spoiler +

ritoky voted for fidei86
geript voted for ritoky
Fecalfeast voted for damdred
Damdred voted for fecalfeast
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for judgejudy
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for damdred
Chezinu voted for ritoky
Chezinu unvoted
ruXxar voted for damdred
Chezinu unvoted
Chezinu voted for damdred
Tubesock voted for Fidei86
Breshke voted for ruXxar
Half the Sky voted for ruXxar
The Shining voted for Fidei86
Rels voted for ruXxar
ObiWanShinobi voted for ruXxar
ruXxar unvoted
ruXxar voted for geript
WaveofShadow voted for ruXxar
Lord Tolkien voted for Vayne Authority
Lord Tolkien unvoted
Lord Tolkien voted for ruXxar
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for yamato77
ruXxar unvoted
ruXxar voted for ObiWanShinobi
The Shining unvoted
The Shining voted for Tubesock
JudgeJudy voted for WaveofShadow
geript unvoted
geript voted for chezinu
Tictock voted for Fidei86
Rels unvoted
Rels voted for Fidei86
Rels unvoted
Rels voted for Tubesock
Chezinu unvoted
Chezinu voted for Tubesock
JudgeJudy unvoted
JudgeJudy voted for Chezinu
Tubesock unvoted
Tubesock voted for yamato77
ObiWanShinobi unvoted
ObiWanShinobi voted for chezinu
WaveofShadow unvoted
WaveofShadow voted for Chezinu
Lord Tolkien unvoted
Lord Tolkien voted for Chezinu
Tubesock unvoted
Tubesock voted for Chezinu
Fidei86 voted for Chezinu
yamato77 voted for Chezinu
KelsierSC voted for Half the Sky
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for kelsierSC
Half the Sky unvoted
Half the Sky voted for Tubesock
WaveofShadow unvoted
WaveofShadow voted for Tubesock
Lord Tolkien unvoted
Lord Tolkien voted for Tubesock
ObiWanShinobi unvoted
ObiWanShinobi voted for ruXxar
Lord Tolkien unvoted
Lord Tolkien voted for ruXxar
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for damdred
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for damdred
Damdred unvoted
Damdred voted for ruXxar
Half the Sky unvoted
Half the Sky voted for ruXxar
Chezinu unvoted
Chezinu voted for ruXxar
Rels unvoted
Rels voted for ruXxar
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for chezinu
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for chezinu
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for Half the Sky
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for WaveofShadow


Day 2 final vote

raynpelikoneet (5): Tictock, KelsierSC, Damdred, Tictock, Fidei86, Rels, The Shining, JudgeJudy
Rels (5): KelsierSC, Fecalfeast, Tictock, Chezinu, geript, The Shining, Fidei86, raynpelikoneet, Lord Tolkien, Tubesock
Yamato77 (3): ObiWanShinobi, Rels, JudgeJudy, Lord Tolkien, Tictock, Fidei86, Fidei86, The Shining, yamato77, Rels
Fecalfeast (2): ritoky, Bill Murray, Tictock
Chezinu (1): Tictock, Breshke, geript, geript
geript (1): Fecalfeast
ritoky (0): geript, Fidei86
The Shining (1): KelsierSC, KelsierSC
KelsierSC (0): Fecalfeast
Fidei86 (0): The Shining, Damdred, Fecalfeast, Tictock

Day 2 vote recap
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ritoky voted for Fecalfeast
Bill Murray voted for Fecalfeast
Tictock voted for Fecalfeast
KelsierSC voted for Rels
Fecalfeast voted for Rels
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for Rels
ObiWanShinobi voted for Yamato77
Chezinu voted for Rels
Rels voted for Yamato77
geript voted for ritoky
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for Chezinu
Breshke voted for Chezinu
JudgeJudy voted for Yamato77
Lord Tolkien voted for Yamato77
geript voted for Chezinu
geript unvoted
geript voted for Chezinu
geript unvoted
geript voted for Rels
The Shining voted for Rels
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for KelsierSC
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for The Shining
Fidei86 voted for Rels
The Shining unvoted
The Shining voted for Fidei86
raynpelikoneet voted for Rels
Damdred voted for Fidei86
Lord Tolkien unvoted
Lord Tolkien voted for Rels
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for raynpelikoneet
Fidei86 unvoted
Fidei86 voted for ritoky
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for Fidei86
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for Fidei86
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for Yamato77
Fidei86 unvoted
Fidei86 voted for Yamato77
Fidei86 unvoted
Fidei86 voted for Yamato77
Fecalfeast unvoted
Fecalfeast voted for geript
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for raynpelikoneet
Damdred unvoted
Damdred voted for raynpelikoneet
The Shining unvoted
The Shining voted for Yamato77
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for raynpelikoneet
Fidei86 unvoted
Fidei86 voted for raynpelikoneet
Rels unvoted
Rels voted for raynpelikoneet
yamato77 voted for Yamato77
The Shining unvoted
The Shining voted for raynpelikoneet
Tubesock voted for Rels
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for The Shining
JudgeJudy unvoted
JudgeJudy voted for raynpelikoneet
Rels unvoted
Rels voted for Yamato77


Day 3 final vote

Lord Tolkien (8): Rels, Fidei86, JudgeJudy, ObiWanShinobi, Breshke, Tictock, Damdred, ritoky
KelsierSC (3): geript, Fecalfeast, Chezinu
Damdred (1): KelsierSC

Not Voting (1): Lord Tolkien

Day 3 vote recap
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Rels voted for Lord Tolkien
Fidei86 voted for Lord Tolkien
geript voted for KelsierSC
JudgeJudy voted for Lord Tolkien
KelsierSC voted for Damdred
ObiWanShinobi voted for Lord Tolkien
Fecalfeast voted for KelsierSC
Breshke voted for Lord Tolkien
Tictock voted for Lord Tolkien
Damdred voted for Lord Tolkien
ritoky voted for Lord Tolkien
Chezinu voted for KelsierSC
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 08:37 GMT
#2817
A tell of how Chezinu knew Lord Tolkien's nuke was fake, thus making him mafia


I think everyone is in the favor of nuking Chez. BUT I have one more thing against him. I will prove Lord Tolkien really launched a fake nuke on Chezinu in purpose.

First thing
During D2 nobody was scumreading Lord Tolkien. He said he would lynch someone town wanted:
On August 24 2015 01:17 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Figure this shit out while I'm on the subway pls. Let's put it this way: today, town gets a double-lynch, courtesy of ME. I will Nagasaki a wanker town also wants dead. So everyone put forward TWO lynch candidates today. I dont care how you decide who will be lynched and who will be Hiroshima'd, but decide amongst yourselves.


At the time, I was the leading wagon, and yamato / chez were the secondary wagons. The plan was to nuke Chezinu, having it failed, and get town cred if Chez ever fliped. Remember Chezinu almost got lynched D1, so he would flip sooner or later; the mafia plan put Lord Tolkien as carry late game.

BUT things happened and near deadline, Lord Tolkien launched his nuke on Chezinu. BUT here were the wagons in order:
Rels (4): Chezinu, geript, raynpelikoneet, fidei86
Yamato77 (3): ObiWanShinobi, Rels, JudgeJudy
Fidei86 (2): The Shining, Damdred
Fecalfeast (2): ritoky, Bill Murray
Chezinu (2): Tictock, Breshke

LT didn't launch the fake nuke at the second wagon, but at Chezinu, like he planned at the beginning of the day. Why chose specifically Chezinu for a fake nuke, when it meant not doing what he said earlier ?

Cause the plan was to fake nuke Chezinu and get town cred for LT later in the game. LT who was townread by everyone D2.

Second thing
Way way shorter: Chezinu didn't comment on LT's nuke at all during D2. In fact, he seemed to have been mostly AFK the whole D2 / N2 phase. He posted SEVEN posts during D2 / N2, but managed to anti nuke TWENTY MINUTES after ritoky's nuke. So he was fake AFK.

So he wasn't afk, but didn't care for the nuke D2; reacted to the nuke immediately N2; and he begged for an anti nuke during the whole D3. The explanation for this attitude's change ? He knew the D2 nuke was fake.

TLDR
1 - Lord Tolkien claimed to nuke the second town wagon (see quote above); instead he nuked Chezinu, who was third town wagon, tied with two others, and was obviously not getting lynched.
2 - He didn't react the LT nuke D2; received an anti nuke from Breshke N2 and used it 20 minutes after ritoky's nuke; and begged for an anti nuke D3. This attitude's change shows Chez knew LT's nuke was fake.

Conclusion
Mafia plan was:
- Chezinu almost got lynched D1, and Lord Tolkien was townread by everyone D2
- Lord Tolkien nukes Chezinu, it fails
- Rels (or another townie) gets mislynched and Chezinu stay alive for another day, possibly keeping the KP high for several nights
- Chezinu gets killed sooner or later
- Lord Tolkien gets town credsss
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 08:42 GMT
#2819
On August 27 2015 17:41 Tictock wrote:
Dam rels, what did you say in scum QT to make your team buss you so hard D2?


Yeah that vote count really incriminates me p: guess I'll google search some baby seals
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 08:45 GMT
#2820
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 08:55 GMT
#2823

I will Nagasaki a wanker town also wants dead. So everyone put forward TWO lynch candidates today. I dont care how you decide who will be lynched and who will be Hiroshima'd, but decide amongst yourselves.

Even if he doesn't clearly say he will pick the second lynch, he says he doesn't care and will nuke anyone.
Choosing Chezinu in the pool of all the possible candidates is a fucking coincidence.

Plus, his nuke was fake, so it makes sense to use it for a plan like that.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 09:02 GMT
#2824
On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.

OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".

OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 09:11 GMT
#2828
On August 27 2015 18:07 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.

OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".

OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.

Rels, this has been a fun town-masterclass to watch/sheep. If you're actually town, which I have to believe that you are, then I'm nominating you for the TLM award for best individual town play.

If you are mafia I will be soooo mad.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 09:14 GMT
#2829
On August 27 2015 18:10 Tictock wrote:
So I thought your 2nd point in that theory was decent Rels, but it doesn't actually check out.

LT launched his nuke like 1 hr before EoD and Chez wasn't around as far as we can tell.

Chezinu wasn't around N2 as far as anyone could tell (7 posts D2 / N2 combined!), but managed to anti nuke 20 minutes after the launch.
Plus, we shouldn't assume a player is AFK at deadline of a contested lynch.

Your other point is super interesting but doesn't make sense in my head. Will think about it.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 09:17 GMT
#2830
On August 24 2015 05:51 Tubesock wrote:
Chez is more entertaining by far. Plus, I'd have to stay in this shitshow.

Wow.
I'm pretty sure this is a tentative to pocket yamato to anti nuke tube instead of Chez. You know, the whole "I'm not motivated by the game so I must be town". Remember that for tube's perspective, yamato is town.
So he actually wanted yamato to anti nuke him and let Chez's be nuked.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 09:28 GMT
#2832
On August 27 2015 18:17 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 05:51 Tubesock wrote:
Chez is more entertaining by far. Plus, I'd have to stay in this shitshow.

Wow.
I'm pretty sure this is a tentative to pocket yamato to anti nuke tube instead of Chez. You know, the whole "I'm not motivated by the game so I must be town". Remember that for tube's perspective, yamato is town.
So he actually wanted yamato to anti nuke him and let Chez's be nuked.

OK actually it makes sense and is super NAI in regard to Chez's alignment. Doesn't make him mafia or town, it's just tube wanting to survive.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 09:58 GMT
#2835
On August 27 2015 18:47 Chezinu wrote:
I'm surprised that your surprised that I showed up to the thread right before the deadline.

???
I'm saying you were around at deadline D2, but didn't post nor reacted to the nuke launched at you.
I used the fact that you were around at deadline N2 to push the point above.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 09:58 GMT
#2836
Now for another time: you claimed to be non-town. If you are not mafia, can you clearly state what is your wincon ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 10:02 GMT
#2839
OK then I believe all the following posts to be you pretending to be 3P with a weird wincon:

On August 27 2015 06:38 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 06:37 Damdred wrote:
Weird switches are good sometimes....

LT is prob going to get modkilled...

On August 27 2015 06:42 Chezinu wrote:
I really hope Lord gets modkilled.

On August 27 2015 06:46 Chezinu wrote:
LIKE COME ON!!! THERE HAS BEEN NO MODKILLS THIS WHOLE GAME!!! SINCE WHEN DOES ONEGU REPLACE?!!?!?!?

On August 27 2015 07:08 Chezinu wrote:
Seriously not modkilled? Seriously? Da**q? He didn't vote! He can't be ****ing be modkilled?
REALLY????????????

REALLY?????????????????

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 10:13 GMT
#2840
The fact that you're so against me instead of being like "well you have been right most of the game but you're wrong on me, let's focus on those people" makes me sure you are mafia.

Wait a minute. Wait a FUCKING minute. I forgot something.

You said:
- you are not-town
- you are not pushing FF / ritoky that you know are lying 'cause it doesn't matter

WHY ARE YOU CARING ABOUT ME BEING TOWN OR NOT
if you care about finding mafia WHY ARE YOU NOT PUSHING FF / RITOKY
if you don't care about finding mafia WHY ARE YOU ATTACKING ME INSTEAD OF CLAIMING YOU RE 3P DON T NUKE ME
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 10:15 GMT
#2842
It doesn't make sense that you are attacking me so much if you're 3P outside the main game.
It doesn't make sense that you are not attacking FF / ritoky if you are 3P wanting to lynch mafia.

You are mafia or 3P that needs mafia alive or 3P that needs the game to last a long time.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 10:18 GMT
#2846
Nuke that guy
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 10:23 GMT
#2851
On August 27 2015 19:19 Chezinu wrote:
Let me paraphrase my role so I don't break them rules...

My role be like saying,

You forgets them wincon! Forgets be got modkilled just make bad situation worse. YOU no Care! It's the hosts' problem!

If you tell the truth, you're useless to the town.
In fact, you telling the truth is confirming two mafias right there, but you're not pushing them.

If you don't tell the truth, well you're mafia. It makes sense with the whole "nuke Chez" plan.

We're killing you either with nuke or lynch.

It just doesn't make sense that:
- you don't know your wincon
- you got a check on a player that died the same night
- LT chose to fake nuke you and you didn't react while being here at deadline
- but when breshke nuked you you whined a lot
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 10:24 GMT
#2852
WHY the fuck would you get an upgrade check with this wincon. And you didn't claim any abilities either.
You're lying mafia.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 10:28 GMT
#2855
On August 27 2015 19:26 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 19:24 Rels wrote:
WHY the fuck would you get an upgrade check with this wincon. And you didn't claim any abilities either.
You're lying mafia.

I'm going to lol soo much when yall realize that I'm telling the truth. REMEMBER THIS END GAME. Then read my filter.

Sincerely if you tell the truth, I want to see your role 'cause nothing makes sense. Plus it confirms FF + ritoky mafia. So happy with the nuke either way.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 10:31 GMT
#2857
On August 27 2015 19:29 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 19:28 Rels wrote:
On August 27 2015 19:26 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 19:24 Rels wrote:
WHY the fuck would you get an upgrade check with this wincon. And you didn't claim any abilities either.
You're lying mafia.

I'm going to lol soo much when yall realize that I'm telling the truth. REMEMBER THIS END GAME. Then read my filter.

Sincerely if you tell the truth, I want to see your role 'cause nothing makes sense. Plus it confirms FF + ritoky mafia. So happy with the nuke either way.

You should totes kill them both first.

Easy for you to say. For my part I think you're the one lying.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 10:32 GMT
#2859
OWS
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 10:40 GMT
#2861
Don't care about insanity claim. D2 you pretended you care about the game, posting reads and list and shit. Changing your read on FF a few time while doing that shows you're probably lying about the dead check BTW.

Too late for insanity when you had a serious D2.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 10:43 GMT
#2863
OK I said what I had to say. Like each time you post, we manage to clutter up the thread. I'll stop now unless you say something false.

I think Chez is lying and should by nuked / lynched. I think he is mafia. Maybe town-enemy 3P. Don't see a way he is town-friendly 3P, or he would have pushed FF / ritoky hard, would not have put LT green on his list, would not have casted suspicions on me.

The fake nuke thing is the last drop. I want him dead.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 10:48 GMT
#2865
On August 27 2015 19:43 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 19:40 Rels wrote:
Don't care about insanity claim. D2 you pretended you care about the game, posting reads and list and shit. Changing your read on FF a few time while doing that shows you're probably lying about the dead check BTW.

Too late for insanity when you had a serious D2.

You must be EXTREMELY CRAZY then. WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THESE READS FROM?!?!?! QUOTE ME REAL QUOTES WITHIN CONTEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FF red in list.
On August 26 2015 09:56 Chezinu wrote:
Here, yall have fun and decide if yall want to help me out.


Rels
Fidei86
Breshke

geript
Damdred
JudgeJudy
ObiWanShinobi

Ritoky
Tictock
Fecalfeastt
Lord Tolkien
KelsierSC


I have finally stopped RPing. I believe I went the longest out of everyone here.

Copy, paste, and search all my previous posts. Basically any Day 1 or Day 2 post. They are all quotes.


FF may be town actually:
On August 26 2015 22:02 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:01 Rels wrote:
So: both checks on LT are fake, KSC and FF's. But LT is actually mafia.
I don't see how you could actually believe that.


WHAT IF "No Result" was real. what if LT is uncheckable b/c special mafia ability? *Note: I was first to state this*

FF may be mafia actually:
On August 27 2015 04:56 Chezinu wrote:
I would look into Rels after I die too town. For Ace's sake. Don't believe his quotes. Look them up. Read my filter and match it up with what he says. Look into rik and ff as well. I caught them both lying, thus why rel wants me dead. if they are bad down lies, then perhaps Rels is having a hay day.

FF is only mafia if LT is town:
On August 27 2015 05:17 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 05:15 Rels wrote:
On August 27 2015 05:12 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 05:10 Rels wrote:
Don't know why you aren't pushing FF and ritoky harder than that since they both say things completely impossible if you're town.

I have too many mafia suspects. Too many people lying. Fight town, brown, and mafia is hard.

LOL
You can suspect me that's true.
But FF said something you know IS NOT POSSIBLE (getting no PM from dead player check)
And ritoky claimed he ROLEBLOCKED YOU
If you are town they are CONFIRMED MAFIA (99% for ritoky 'cause he could be naive or roleblocked himself or something else that has 0.01% chance of happening)
WHY are you focusing on me when you have two confirmed mafia

Do you know LT is town? It seems like you do. Despite thinking he is mafia. If LT is town and not uncheckable mafia, then maybe ff is mafia.


It doesn't make sense. You KNOW FF is mafia since he didn't get a PM from a check on a dead player, and you did get one.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 10:50 GMT
#2868
On August 27 2015 19:49 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 19:48 Rels wrote:
On August 27 2015 19:43 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 19:40 Rels wrote:
Don't care about insanity claim. D2 you pretended you care about the game, posting reads and list and shit. Changing your read on FF a few time while doing that shows you're probably lying about the dead check BTW.

Too late for insanity when you had a serious D2.

You must be EXTREMELY CRAZY then. WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THESE READS FROM?!?!?! QUOTE ME REAL QUOTES WITHIN CONTEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FF red in list.
On August 26 2015 09:56 Chezinu wrote:
Here, yall have fun and decide if yall want to help me out.


Rels
Fidei86
Breshke

geript
Damdred
JudgeJudy
ObiWanShinobi

Ritoky
Tictock
Fecalfeastt
Lord Tolkien
KelsierSC


I have finally stopped RPing. I believe I went the longest out of everyone here.

Copy, paste, and search all my previous posts. Basically any Day 1 or Day 2 post. They are all quotes.


FF may be town actually:
On August 26 2015 22:02 Chezinu wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:01 Rels wrote:
So: both checks on LT are fake, KSC and FF's. But LT is actually mafia.
I don't see how you could actually believe that.


WHAT IF "No Result" was real. what if LT is uncheckable b/c special mafia ability? *Note: I was first to state this*

FF may be mafia actually:
On August 27 2015 04:56 Chezinu wrote:
I would look into Rels after I die too town. For Ace's sake. Don't believe his quotes. Look them up. Read my filter and match it up with what he says. Look into rik and ff as well. I caught them both lying, thus why rel wants me dead. if they are bad down lies, then perhaps Rels is having a hay day.

FF is only mafia if LT is town:
On August 27 2015 05:17 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 05:15 Rels wrote:
On August 27 2015 05:12 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 05:10 Rels wrote:
Don't know why you aren't pushing FF and ritoky harder than that since they both say things completely impossible if you're town.

I have too many mafia suspects. Too many people lying. Fight town, brown, and mafia is hard.

LOL
You can suspect me that's true.
But FF said something you know IS NOT POSSIBLE (getting no PM from dead player check)
And ritoky claimed he ROLEBLOCKED YOU
If you are town they are CONFIRMED MAFIA (99% for ritoky 'cause he could be naive or roleblocked himself or something else that has 0.01% chance of happening)
WHY are you focusing on me when you have two confirmed mafia

Do you know LT is town? It seems like you do. Despite thinking he is mafia. If LT is town and not uncheckable mafia, then maybe ff is mafia.


It doesn't make sense. You KNOW FF is mafia since he didn't get a PM from a check on a dead player, and you did get one.



THAT IT!!! LET'S NUKE THE FEZ!!!!! FF CONFIRMED MAFIA!!! LETS KILL HIM GUYS!!!!

Too late for me to believe you as long as you are alive.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 10:59 GMT
#2870
On August 27 2015 19:55 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 19:50 Rels wrote:
On August 27 2015 19:49 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 19:48 Rels wrote:
On August 27 2015 19:43 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 19:40 Rels wrote:
Don't care about insanity claim. D2 you pretended you care about the game, posting reads and list and shit. Changing your read on FF a few time while doing that shows you're probably lying about the dead check BTW.

Too late for insanity when you had a serious D2.

You must be EXTREMELY CRAZY then. WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THESE READS FROM?!?!?! QUOTE ME REAL QUOTES WITHIN CONTEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FF red in list.
On August 26 2015 09:56 Chezinu wrote:
Here, yall have fun and decide if yall want to help me out.


Rels
Fidei86
Breshke

geript
Damdred
JudgeJudy
ObiWanShinobi

Ritoky
Tictock
Fecalfeastt
Lord Tolkien
KelsierSC


I have finally stopped RPing. I believe I went the longest out of everyone here.

Copy, paste, and search all my previous posts. Basically any Day 1 or Day 2 post. They are all quotes.


FF may be town actually:
On August 26 2015 22:02 Chezinu wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:01 Rels wrote:
So: both checks on LT are fake, KSC and FF's. But LT is actually mafia.
I don't see how you could actually believe that.


WHAT IF "No Result" was real. what if LT is uncheckable b/c special mafia ability? *Note: I was first to state this*

FF may be mafia actually:
On August 27 2015 04:56 Chezinu wrote:
I would look into Rels after I die too town. For Ace's sake. Don't believe his quotes. Look them up. Read my filter and match it up with what he says. Look into rik and ff as well. I caught them both lying, thus why rel wants me dead. if they are bad down lies, then perhaps Rels is having a hay day.

FF is only mafia if LT is town:
On August 27 2015 05:17 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 05:15 Rels wrote:
On August 27 2015 05:12 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 05:10 Rels wrote:
Don't know why you aren't pushing FF and ritoky harder than that since they both say things completely impossible if you're town.

I have too many mafia suspects. Too many people lying. Fight town, brown, and mafia is hard.

LOL
You can suspect me that's true.
But FF said something you know IS NOT POSSIBLE (getting no PM from dead player check)
And ritoky claimed he ROLEBLOCKED YOU
If you are town they are CONFIRMED MAFIA (99% for ritoky 'cause he could be naive or roleblocked himself or something else that has 0.01% chance of happening)
WHY are you focusing on me when you have two confirmed mafia

Do you know LT is town? It seems like you do. Despite thinking he is mafia. If LT is town and not uncheckable mafia, then maybe ff is mafia.


It doesn't make sense. You KNOW FF is mafia since he didn't get a PM from a check on a dead player, and you did get one.



THAT IT!!! LET'S NUKE THE FEZ!!!!! FF CONFIRMED MAFIA!!! LETS KILL HIM GUYS!!!!

Too late for me to believe you as long as you are alive.


Sorry for not starting a wagon on FF and rik cause I wanted Lord T to get lynched.

So now you are pretending to care about the game. stupid
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 11:06 GMT
#2872
OK let's not forget one of FF and KSC has to be not-town too. Both weren't roleblocked and got different results on the same target. Right now I'm more willing to kill KSC than FF, but it's very small.

Here is a direction we could take:
1 - nuke Chezinu tonight
2 - if his upgrade really was a check, FF is lying; we kill him
3 - if not, I'm more in favor of a KSC lynch atm, but very slightly. We'll debate tomorrow about this
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 12:29 GMT
#2876
fidei I'll let you do your thing.

@OWS when you come back

1 - OK to nuke Chez ?

2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817

3 - What do you think of that ?
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On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
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On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.

OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".

OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.


Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 13:00 GMT
#2881
On August 27 2015 21:51 Breshke wrote:
So fidel/rels

Say tomorrow FF says he has a red on KSC

Who do you lynch ff or KSC

If Damdred is dead, KSC for sure.
If Chezinu's upgrade is actually a check, FF for sure.
If none of those things happens, I think KSC but I'm not sure. Hard to make a case on someone that didn't play.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 14:24 GMT
#2902
^ LOL
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 14:26 GMT
#2903
Nuke the Chez.

- nuke theory
- claimed not-town
- during D2 he put his serious mode on and it was bullshit. He pushed suspicions on me multiple times when he should have pushed ritoky and FF
- claimed wincon is bullshit (not having a wincon)
- claimed upgrade does not align with wincon (why a not-wincon guy would have a check)
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 14:31 GMT
#2906
On August 27 2015 23:29 Chezinu wrote:
I really think Rels is rayn...

rayn is dead
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 14:33 GMT
#2908
anyway why not nuke FF, "no result" check is weird, and if he's town KSC is 100% mafia 'cause that would mean LT was made uncheckable for the night by something
would prefer Chez
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 14:33 GMT
#2909
On August 27 2015 23:32 Chezinu wrote:
I know rayn is similiar to marv but you shouldn't confuse the two.

marv is dead too
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 14:45 GMT
#2917
On August 27 2015 23:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
@jj: he had two checks in one night? Where did he claim that? I can't look for myself.

He did, you can check later.
He claimed his ability is to check people he votes on. His checks were:
N1: No check (vote on WOS who died)
N2: geript (green)
He also claimed to have gotten a free check with the roleplay upgrade.
N2 upgrade check: Lord Tolkien (no result)
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 14:45 GMT
#2918
On August 27 2015 23:42 Breshke wrote:
yo obi i talked about this before but I don't think you should nuke FF, KSC or damdred.

If damdred dies tomorrow it is really awkward because he will be the third person who died after KSC had their vote on them.

Also FF had his vote on KSC so he is going to get a check on him tomorrow and i really don't think that those two are aligned so the possibility of fF getting a town check and confirming KSC is one i would take.

Nuke the chez

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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 15:03 GMT
#2932
On August 27 2015 23:59 Breshke wrote:
The fact of the mater is FF is going to get a check on KSC so weather you think FF is mafia or not i think it is optimal to let him liveto give us this information on KSC because if he says KSC is green as i have explained it basically confirms him.

I agree 100% with that. I know I'm not a high-risk player though.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 15:08 GMT
#2940
On August 28 2015 00:06 Tictock wrote:
He did claim his role, it looks to be something like a modkilled player who is still posting in game. Idk I've seen something about roles like that before which is why I'm kinda ok to buy it.

What did you understand of his role ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 15:09 GMT
#2942
On August 28 2015 00:07 Tictock wrote:
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On August 27 2015 19:19 Chezinu wrote:
Let me paraphrase my role so I don't break them rules...

My role be like saying,

You forgets them wincon! Forgets be got modkilled just make bad situation worse. YOU no Care! It's the hosts' problem!


It is bullshit. Either you can state your wincon or you cannot. Paraphrasing bullshit is being like "look I'm really trying!"
Nuke Chez please
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 15:31 GMT
#2951
Can't go wrong with either Chez or FF. I would nuke Chez but I'm OK with FF
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 15:32 GMT
#2952
Best part is your nuke could be fake ><
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 15:46 GMT
#2956
Drinking tonight (french beer =X not gonna taste good after belgium) so won't be around much starting now! Will check when I can from my phase.

I'll say if FF still doesn't post, nuke him. He doesn't deserve Breshke defending him if he doesn't even show up.
If he shows up, I'll nuke Chez but I'm OK with FF.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 22:34 GMT
#3001
I'm drunk but i know one thing.

I thought chez was mafia or at least anti town before. But now we have the proof he lied!! Ff got no check when he checked a dead player (wos) and chezinu got a check when he checked a dead player (yamato). In addition to all the shit from before: the nuke theory making sense, him not trying to solve the game D2, him listing LT as green with no reasoning then saying it was to fool the mafia.

Let's kill the guy that survived 4 lynches.
KILL THE CHEZ

##Vote Chezinu
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 22:35 GMT
#3003
Good night all. If you're not voting the chez when I wake up you're a moron.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 27 2015 22:38 GMT
#3005
Forgot to add being roleblocked by ritoky when claiming a check. Anothrr thing against him
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 07:43 GMT
#3102
On August 28 2015 08:37 geript wrote:
Also fwiw since we're coming clean. I made up that whole HTS QT shit for funsies. Idk if KSC is lying, but at least it got everyone else to lynch LT. So I'm counting it a win.

Scooby doo. )=

I'll get back to you motherfucker, now that the shot protected on you N1 is claimed by vig, so it was likely not mafia shooting you. You're not town confirmed anymore.

Lucky for you there are better targets today.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 07:46 GMT
#3103
Vote recaps colored with flips


Day 1 final vote

ruXxar (7): Breshke, Half the Sky, Rels, ObiWanShinobi, WaveofShadow, Lord Tolkien, ObiWanShinobi, Lord Tolkien, Damdred, Half the Sky, Chezinu, Rels
Chezinu (5): geript, JudgeJudy, ObiWanShinobi, WaveofShadow, Lord Tolkien, Tubesock, Fidei86, yamato77, FecalFeast, KelscierSC
Tubesock (2): The Shining, Rels, Chezinu, WaveofShadow, Lord Tolkien
Fidei86 (2): ritoky, Tubesock, The Shining, Tictock, Rels
ObiWanShinobi (1): ruXxar
WaveofShadow (1): FecalFeast
Half the Sky (1): KelsierSC
Damdred (0): FecalFeast, FecalFeast, ruXxar, Chezinu, FecalFeast, KelsierSC
VayneAuthority (0): Lord Tolkien
yamato77 (0): FecalFeast, Tubesock

Not Voting (2): VayneAuthority, Beneather

Day 1 vote recap
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ritoky voted for fidei86
geript voted for ritoky
FecalFeast voted for damdred
Damdred voted for FecalFeast
FecalFeast unvoted
FecalFeast voted for judgejudy
FecalFeast unvoted
FecalFeast voted for damdred
Chezinu voted for ritoky
Chezinu unvoted
ruXxar voted for damdred
Chezinu unvoted
Chezinu voted for damdred
Tubesock voted for Fidei86
Breshke voted for ruXxar
Half the Sky voted for ruXxar
The Shining voted for Fidei86
Rels voted for ruXxar
ObiWanShinobi voted for ruXxar
ruXxar unvoted
ruXxar voted for geript
WaveofShadow voted for ruXxar
Lord Tolkien voted for Vayne Authority
Lord Tolkien unvoted
Lord Tolkien voted for ruXxar
FecalFeast unvoted
FecalFeast voted for yamato77
ruXxar unvoted
ruXxar voted for ObiWanShinobi
The Shining unvoted
The Shining voted for Tubesock
JudgeJudy voted for WaveofShadow
geript unvoted
geript voted for chezinu
Tictock voted for Fidei86
Rels unvoted
Rels voted for Fidei86
Rels unvoted
Rels voted for Tubesock
Chezinu unvoted
Chezinu voted for Tubesock
JudgeJudy unvoted
JudgeJudy voted for Chezinu
Tubesock unvoted
Tubesock voted for yamato77
ObiWanShinobi unvoted
ObiWanShinobi voted for chezinu
WaveofShadow unvoted
WaveofShadow voted for Chezinu
Lord Tolkien unvoted
Lord Tolkien voted for Chezinu
Tubesock unvoted
Tubesock voted for Chezinu
Fidei86 voted for Chezinu
yamato77 voted for Chezinu
KelsierSC voted for Half the Sky
FecalFeast unvoted
FecalFeast voted for kelsierSC
Half the Sky unvoted
Half the Sky voted for Tubesock
WaveofShadow unvoted
WaveofShadow voted for Tubesock
Lord Tolkien unvoted
Lord Tolkien voted for Tubesock
ObiWanShinobi unvoted
ObiWanShinobi voted for ruXxar
Lord Tolkien unvoted
Lord Tolkien voted for ruXxar
FecalFeast unvoted
FecalFeast voted for damdred
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for damdred
Damdred unvoted
Damdred voted for ruXxar
Half the Sky unvoted
Half the Sky voted for ruXxar
Chezinu unvoted
Chezinu voted for ruXxar
Rels unvoted
Rels voted for ruXxar
FecalFeast unvoted
FecalFeast voted for chezinu
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for chezinu
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for Half the Sky
FecalFeast unvoted
FecalFeast voted for WaveofShadow


Day 2 final vote

raynpelikoneet (5): Tictock, KelsierSC, Damdred, Tictock, Fidei86, Rels, The Shining, JudgeJudy
Rels (5): KelsierSC, FecalFeast, Tictock, Chezinu, geript, The Shining, Fidei86, raynpelikoneet, Lord Tolkien, Tubesock
Yamato77 (3): ObiWanShinobi, Rels, JudgeJudy, Lord Tolkien, Tictock, Fidei86, Fidei86, The Shining, yamato77, Rels
FecalFeast (2): ritoky, Bill Murray, Tictock
Chezinu (1): Tictock, Breshke, geript, geript
geript (1): FecalFeast
ritoky (0): geript, Fidei86
The Shining (1): KelsierSC, KelsierSC
KelsierSC (0): FecalFeast
Fidei86 (0): The Shining, Damdred, FecalFeast, Tictock

Day 2 vote recap
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ritoky voted for FecalFeast
Bill Murray voted for FecalFeast
Tictock voted for FecalFeast
KelsierSC voted for Rels
FecalFeast voted for Rels
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for Rels
ObiWanShinobi voted for Yamato77
Chezinu voted for Rels
Rels voted for Yamato77
geript voted for ritoky
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for Chezinu
Breshke voted for Chezinu
JudgeJudy voted for Yamato77
Lord Tolkien voted for Yamato77
geript voted for Chezinu
geript unvoted
geript voted for Chezinu
geript unvoted
geript voted for Rels
The Shining voted for Rels
FecalFeast unvoted
FecalFeast voted for KelsierSC
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for The Shining
Fidei86 voted for Rels
The Shining unvoted
The Shining voted for Fidei86
raynpelikoneet voted for Rels
Damdred voted for Fidei86
Lord Tolkien unvoted
Lord Tolkien voted for Rels
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for raynpelikoneet
Fidei86 unvoted
Fidei86 voted for ritoky
FecalFeast unvoted
FecalFeast voted for Fidei86
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for Fidei86
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for Yamato77
Fidei86 unvoted
Fidei86 voted for Yamato77
Fidei86 unvoted
Fidei86 voted for Yamato77
FecalFeast unvoted
FecalFeast voted for geript
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for raynpelikoneet
Damdred unvoted
Damdred voted for raynpelikoneet
The Shining unvoted
The Shining voted for Yamato77
Tictock unvoted
Tictock voted for raynpelikoneet
Fidei86 unvoted
Fidei86 voted for raynpelikoneet
Rels unvoted
Rels voted for raynpelikoneet
yamato77 voted for Yamato77
The Shining unvoted
The Shining voted for raynpelikoneet
Tubesock voted for Rels
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for The Shining
JudgeJudy unvoted
JudgeJudy voted for raynpelikoneet
Rels unvoted
Rels voted for Yamato77


Day 3 final vote

Lord Tolkien (8): Rels, Fidei86, JudgeJudy, ObiWanShinobi, Breshke, Tictock, Damdred, ritoky
KelsierSC (3): geript, FecalFeast, Chezinu
Damdred (1): KelsierSC

Not Voting (1): Lord Tolkien

Day 3 vote recap
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Rels voted for Lord Tolkien
Fidei86 voted for Lord Tolkien
geript voted for KelsierSC
JudgeJudy voted for Lord Tolkien
KelsierSC voted for Damdred
ObiWanShinobi voted for Lord Tolkien
FecalFeast voted for KelsierSC
Breshke voted for Lord Tolkien
Tictock voted for Lord Tolkien
Damdred voted for Lord Tolkien
ritoky voted for Lord Tolkien
Chezinu voted for KelsierSC
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 08:01 GMT
#3104
OK folks. Come here, sit by the fire! It's cold out there, isn't it ? Are you well now ? Then, let me tell you about the story of today.

We're lynching Chezinu.

We can talk about other things. I will be ignoring Chezinu 'cause talking to him each time has cluttered up the thread for nothing. Unless he says false things ofc.

Why are we lynching Chezinu ? Two mains reasons shows he's mafia, and a bunch of small ones shows he's not town.

1. The nuke theory: LT fake nuked Chezinu D2 to gain town cred when Chez flipped
Go read it, it's there:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817

2. Chezinu claimed he got a check on a dead player; FF claimed he didn't get a check on a dead player; FF was town
That's it. Chezinu claimed to get a 3P check on dead yamato. But please remember the context to know WHY Chezinu claimed that:
Chezinu counterclaimed FF "no result" claim on Lord Tolkien. He tried to deflect the lynch from LT to FF.
That's a play only a mafia (not even a town-enemy 3P) would do.

3. Bunch of small reasons that shows he's not town
- Chezinu claimed not-town EOD3
- Chezinu's check was counter claimed by ritoky's roleblock claim
- Chezinu had Lord Tolkien as green in his "I'm serious now" list post; when asked about it, he said it was to fool the mafia and he actually thought LT was green
- Chezinu *knew* FF was lying from his point of view, but never pushed him hard. Instead, he pushed me hard back when I attacked him. This shows he's not interested by solving the game
- Chezinu *knows* ritoky is lying from his point of view, but doesn't push him hard. Instead, he pushes me hard back when I attack him. This shows he's not interested by solving the game
- His wincon "I don't know my wincon" doesn't make sense
- His upgrade check doesn't make sense with his wincon; why a check would be useful with a wincon like that
- He faked wanting LT to be modkilled EOD3

Conclusion
All of the small reasons makes Chezinu not-town. The two main ones makes him mafia.
So please: LYNCH HIM AND IGNORE HIM. Let's talk about something else while he finally dies.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 08:34 GMT
#3105
Now, about ObiWanShinobi.

I'm sure every town is the game has this guy as possible mafia, by virtue of the rayn town circle + POE. But now that I'm sure Chezinu is mafia, I'm pretty sure OWS is mafia as well.

Why ? Look at what Onegu posted just before the D4 post:
On August 28 2015 06:26 Onegu wrote:
The nuke on Chezinu was lanched after the nuke deadline. PMs with the nukes were told you had to launch 1 hour before deadline. The nuke will be refunded.

So every owner of a nuke given by Breshke or Yamato were told they had to fire the nuke at most 1 hour before deadline. Look at what JJ did:
On August 28 2015 04:56 JudgeJudy wrote:
lol I was hoping to see which one obi would go with, but I'm not sure how much longer I'll be around this afternoon. Go ahead and send yours at chez, maybe we can end the game tonight.

Moma has been holding on to a present! ^_^

##Nuke: Fecalfeast

He waited until 4 minutes before the nuke deadline to see what OWS would do; then he fired his nuke, so the nuke would work.

Now look at what OWS did:
On August 28 2015 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
K well since my boss is a fucking asshole and won't let me take a lunch break I guess I'm probably just going to yolo kill chez and hope for the best.

1 minute AFTER the nuke deadline, he tried to fire his nuke while EXPLAINING WHY HE DID IT SO LATE. So of course the nuke didn't work.

And it's not like he didn't have time to think about it! The whole thread only talked about nuke targets N3. OWS came back to the thread 6 HOURS BEFORE NUKE DEADLINE and posted SEVENTEEN POSTS until his nuke ONE MINUTE AFTER DEADLINE. All of these 17 posts says he's not sure about who to lynch.
But he was NOT LOOKING FOR CLUES ABOUT NUKING SOMEONE. He was just posting he's not sure. Here is town Breshke remarking it (second to last post ... RIP):
On August 28 2015 00:54 Breshke wrote:
Tbh I don't like how obi said he is reading stuff to make his decision but isn't showing any evidence of it in the thread. Like normally I feel like people have at least one or two quotes they want clarifying

Think he said he was phone posting so it could be hard for him to do so but kind of makes me think he is mafia


And here are the SEVENTEEN POSTS I talked about:
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On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:
fidei I'll let you do your thing.

@OWS when you come back

1 - OK to nuke Chez ?

2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817

3 - What do you think of that ?
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On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
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On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.

OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".

OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.




I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff.
Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo.

On August 27 2015 22:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 27 2015 22:49 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:
fidei I'll let you do your thing.

@OWS when you come back

1 - OK to nuke Chez ?

2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817

3 - What do you think of that ?
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On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
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On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.

OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".

OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.




I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff.
Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo.


Everybody wants to nuke the chez!

The town
The mafia
The brown?


I gathered.
Who should I nuke in your place? Forgive me if I missed it but I can't parse the thread via phone too well.

On August 27 2015 23:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 27 2015 22:54 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:49 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:
fidei I'll let you do your thing.

@OWS when you come back

1 - OK to nuke Chez ?

2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817

3 - What do you think of that ?
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On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.

OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".

OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.




I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff.
Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo.


Everybody wants to nuke the chez!

The town
The mafia
The brown?


I gathered.
Who should I nuke in your place? Forgive me if I missed it but I can't parse the thread via phone too well.


FF, I think that should clear me.


Remind me why that is and why exactly I should do that?

On August 27 2015 23:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Doesn't role blocker return "no result" or how exactly does that happen?

On August 27 2015 23:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
@jj: he had two checks in one night? Where did he claim that? I can't look for myself.

Ff is 100% the best nuke in the case of conflicting role claims.

On August 28 2015 00:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 27 2015 23:59 Breshke wrote:
Tictock FF could very well be mafia yes. There is a lot of discrepancies which does not look good for him. People can make bad checks like obviously checking geript there wasn't optimal because we already had two checks on him basically. I will also agree that on the other side of the same coin mafia can make sub optimal plays and bad claims and that could very well be what FF has done.

The fact of the mater is FF is going to get a check on KSC so weather you think FF is mafia or not i think it is optimal to let him liveto give us this information on KSC because if he says KSC is green as i have explained it basically confirms him.

Also do you not think it is weird that chez hasn't claimed what his role actually does? (has he?) Half the game is calling for him to get nuked you think he would try leverage it with his power.



Yeah that's not really how information works.

On August 28 2015 00:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
mmm
I feel like I could make a solid choice nuking either or chez/ff but that doesn't really make it easier.

On August 28 2015 00:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 28 2015 00:32 Rels wrote:
Best part is your nuke could be fake ><


Yeah I'm gonna be kind of sad if it's fake.

On August 28 2015 01:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Shock and surprise nobody trusts me.
W/e.

On August 28 2015 01:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah I fucking get it.

On August 28 2015 01:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I kind of feel like chez would probably be the best nuke here, considering having him alive is going to shut discussion down for another day.

The thing is: can the same be said about ff?

On August 28 2015 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred could easily be on the lynch table tomorrow, nuking him seems like a bit of a waste at this juncture.

On August 28 2015 02:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 28 2015 01:49 Fidei86 wrote:
On August 28 2015 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred could easily be on the lynch table tomorrow, nuking him seems like a bit of a waste at this juncture.

Explain to me why town would lynch Damdred?


Ask the people that want to nuke him.

On August 28 2015 02:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 28 2015 02:02 geript wrote:
TBH, nuking him makes far more sense than lynching him. But it is kinda a waste if he has an antinuke.


Yeah.

On August 28 2015 02:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred would claim anti nukes regardless of whether or not he actually had them in this position though.

Chez is probably still the best nuke.

On August 28 2015 02:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
The bit I found towny about chez was his fight with rels.
That's the thing that's stopping me from nuking him atm.

On August 28 2015 03:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 28 2015 03:38 Damdred wrote:
Lets be honest here, you are debating nukeing a third party who has helped town with shenanigans onto god father rayn.

Lynches Lt which has 0 town cred.

And ny death puts you closer to lylo.

Though if you are going to nuke me ows ho on and do it so I can give out as much info as I can so it doesn't get surprise here's a nuke.


I'm not going to nuke you.
I'm torn between chez and ff.

Hopefully I can reread something when I'm on lunch break.

On August 28 2015 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
K well since my boss is a fucking asshole and won't let me take a lunch break I guess I'm probably just going to yolo kill chez and hope for the best.




OK! So why did he do this ? Here is what I believe happened:
- OWS and Chezinu mafia together, maybe the last ones
- OWS delayed the time to make a decision during several hours
- Just after the nuke deadline passed, OWS finally posted he would nuke Chezinu
- But of course the nuke didn't work

And here is why he did it
He nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline so he would not kill his partner.
But he nuked Chezinu so he would gain town cred after Chez flipped.
He also nuked after the deadline so he still kept the nuke to use on anyone else in case Chezinu flipped; after all, supposing there are 5 mafias, he would be the last alive; nuking anyone would be good for him.

TLDR
OWS purposefully nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline. He did it so Chezinu lived another day; for the towncred if Chezinu flipped; and to keep the nuke for another person later.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 08:38 GMT
#3106
I got other things to say about Damdred and geript. But I will wait for people to read these two posts first and to vote Chezinu. I have a feeling that if I post too much people won't read, and we have time to discuss stuff.
So people; READ THE TWO POSTS ABOVE!!
Then vote Chezinu who I'm sure is mafia; and ignore him please.
Then talk to me about OWS; I'm only 90% sure he's mafia, so tell me what you think of the nuke situation N3.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 12:30 GMT
#3107
I dont want to talk about something else than Chezinu - OWS (since it is related to Chez) as long as people are not convinced Chezinu is mafia. BUT I really really want to develop that geript-Damdred interraction at the start of the day 'cause some things are bothering me.

So please people: a simple "oh you're fucking right" followed by a Chez vote would be enough. Comments on OWS would be extra good.

Then we can talk about something else.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 13:46 GMT
#3109
On August 28 2015 22:35 JudgeJudy wrote:
What do you think about KSC, Rels? Now that FF has flipped town, do you buy the claim that KSC was fake claiming cop as town?

We need to kill him before LYLO.
I had no scumread nor townread of him until this morning. The guy made sure he was unreadable.
Now, the FF flip this morning confirmed he was lying about the check. The moment that happened, he did this:
On August 28 2015 08:14 KelsierSC wrote:
i checked a dead man


Then 20 minutes later he actually rescinded his cop claim:
On August 28 2015 08:32 KelsierSC wrote:
soap

here's the thing, i don't actually have a way of checking people

i'm a town vigi, i shot geript n1 for the lolz,

he didnt die so i assumed he was a vet and called him town
then i took a punt on LT being mafia next night

but for my town defence, i got people to vote rayn
and LT
so im town

i just havent really played properly


So several things are super weird:
1 - he fakeclaimed for the entire game
2 - he made sure he was unreadable for the entire game
3 - we don't know if KSC would have rescinded his claim without FF flipping
4 - before he rescinded, he posted he checked a dead man; maybe he tried to cover his fakeclaim by claiming the dead check, before realising it's not coherent, then he claimed vig
5 - he didn't post much this game but is over defensive the moment someone talks about him being scummy. KSC stating he was the main force behind rayn and LT's lynches is LOL worthy

We need to lynch him sooner or later. Not over 100% mafia Chezinu, but maybe tomorrow.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 13:54 GMT
#3110
Actually OWS: if you're town, then KSC is probably the last mafia if there are 5 mafias. So I think you should nuke KSC; there is a chance the game is won at deadline, if KSC is the last mafia and Damdred wincon is compatible win town wincon.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 13:55 GMT
#3111
Wow it's a fucking great plan.
Lynch Chezinu and nuke KSC.
If KSC is mafia and the game is not over, lynch Damdred the next day.
If KSC is town, lynch OWS probably (could change obv).
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 13:59 GMT
#3112
Fuck. That's why I wanted everybody to read my cases before I started thinking about something else - -' now I cluttered the thread again.
Chezinu is 100% mafia. So I don't want to discuss something else before I'm sure he's going to be lynched today.
So I'll put my thoughts on hold until he has enough votes on him.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 14:01 GMT
#3114
If someone starts talking to me about my read on KSC or my proposition to lynch Damdred if 5 mafias are flipped BEFORE voting Chezinu or talking to me about Chezinu I'm going to be super mad at him.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 14:14 GMT
#3119
On August 28 2015 23:12 Damdred wrote:
hey rels can you talk to me more about your ksc read?

funny =D
sry to disappoint you, all I had is written above
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 14:15 GMT
#3120
OK then OWS; do you think Chezinu is scum ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 14:17 GMT
#3123
On August 28 2015 23:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 17:34 Rels wrote:
Now, about ObiWanShinobi.

I'm sure every town is the game has this guy as possible mafia, by virtue of the rayn town circle + POE. But now that I'm sure Chezinu is mafia, I'm pretty sure OWS is mafia as well.

Why ? Look at what Onegu posted just before the D4 post:
On August 28 2015 06:26 Onegu wrote:
The nuke on Chezinu was lanched after the nuke deadline. PMs with the nukes were told you had to launch 1 hour before deadline. The nuke will be refunded.

So every owner of a nuke given by Breshke or Yamato were told they had to fire the nuke at most 1 hour before deadline. Look at what JJ did:
On August 28 2015 04:56 JudgeJudy wrote:
lol I was hoping to see which one obi would go with, but I'm not sure how much longer I'll be around this afternoon. Go ahead and send yours at chez, maybe we can end the game tonight.

Moma has been holding on to a present! ^_^

##Nuke: Fecalfeast

He waited until 4 minutes before the nuke deadline to see what OWS would do; then he fired his nuke, so the nuke would work.

Now look at what OWS did:
On August 28 2015 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
K well since my boss is a fucking asshole and won't let me take a lunch break I guess I'm probably just going to yolo kill chez and hope for the best.

1 minute AFTER the nuke deadline, he tried to fire his nuke while EXPLAINING WHY HE DID IT SO LATE. So of course the nuke didn't work.

And it's not like he didn't have time to think about it! The whole thread only talked about nuke targets N3. OWS came back to the thread 6 HOURS BEFORE NUKE DEADLINE and posted SEVENTEEN POSTS until his nuke ONE MINUTE AFTER DEADLINE. All of these 17 posts says he's not sure about who to lynch.
But he was NOT LOOKING FOR CLUES ABOUT NUKING SOMEONE. He was just posting he's not sure. Here is town Breshke remarking it (second to last post ... RIP):
On August 28 2015 00:54 Breshke wrote:
Tbh I don't like how obi said he is reading stuff to make his decision but isn't showing any evidence of it in the thread. Like normally I feel like people have at least one or two quotes they want clarifying

Think he said he was phone posting so it could be hard for him to do so but kind of makes me think he is mafia


And here are the SEVENTEEN POSTS I talked about:
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On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:
fidei I'll let you do your thing.

@OWS when you come back

1 - OK to nuke Chez ?

2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817

3 - What do you think of that ?
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On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.

OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".

OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.




I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff.
Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo.

On August 27 2015 22:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 27 2015 22:49 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:
fidei I'll let you do your thing.

@OWS when you come back

1 - OK to nuke Chez ?

2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817

3 - What do you think of that ?
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.

OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".

OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.




I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff.
Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo.


Everybody wants to nuke the chez!

The town
The mafia
The brown?


I gathered.
Who should I nuke in your place? Forgive me if I missed it but I can't parse the thread via phone too well.

On August 27 2015 23:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 22:54 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:49 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:
fidei I'll let you do your thing.

@OWS when you come back

1 - OK to nuke Chez ?

2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817

3 - What do you think of that ?
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On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.

OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".

OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.




I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff.
Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo.


Everybody wants to nuke the chez!

The town
The mafia
The brown?


I gathered.
Who should I nuke in your place? Forgive me if I missed it but I can't parse the thread via phone too well.


FF, I think that should clear me.


Remind me why that is and why exactly I should do that?

On August 27 2015 23:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Doesn't role blocker return "no result" or how exactly does that happen?

On August 27 2015 23:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
@jj: he had two checks in one night? Where did he claim that? I can't look for myself.

Ff is 100% the best nuke in the case of conflicting role claims.

On August 28 2015 00:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 23:59 Breshke wrote:
Tictock FF could very well be mafia yes. There is a lot of discrepancies which does not look good for him. People can make bad checks like obviously checking geript there wasn't optimal because we already had two checks on him basically. I will also agree that on the other side of the same coin mafia can make sub optimal plays and bad claims and that could very well be what FF has done.

The fact of the mater is FF is going to get a check on KSC so weather you think FF is mafia or not i think it is optimal to let him liveto give us this information on KSC because if he says KSC is green as i have explained it basically confirms him.

Also do you not think it is weird that chez hasn't claimed what his role actually does? (has he?) Half the game is calling for him to get nuked you think he would try leverage it with his power.



Yeah that's not really how information works.

On August 28 2015 00:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
mmm
I feel like I could make a solid choice nuking either or chez/ff but that doesn't really make it easier.

On August 28 2015 00:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 28 2015 00:32 Rels wrote:
Best part is your nuke could be fake ><


Yeah I'm gonna be kind of sad if it's fake.

On August 28 2015 01:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Shock and surprise nobody trusts me.
W/e.

On August 28 2015 01:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah I fucking get it.

On August 28 2015 01:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I kind of feel like chez would probably be the best nuke here, considering having him alive is going to shut discussion down for another day.

The thing is: can the same be said about ff?

On August 28 2015 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred could easily be on the lynch table tomorrow, nuking him seems like a bit of a waste at this juncture.

On August 28 2015 02:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 01:49 Fidei86 wrote:
On August 28 2015 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred could easily be on the lynch table tomorrow, nuking him seems like a bit of a waste at this juncture.

Explain to me why town would lynch Damdred?


Ask the people that want to nuke him.

On August 28 2015 02:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 02:02 geript wrote:
TBH, nuking him makes far more sense than lynching him. But it is kinda a waste if he has an antinuke.


Yeah.

On August 28 2015 02:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred would claim anti nukes regardless of whether or not he actually had them in this position though.

Chez is probably still the best nuke.

On August 28 2015 02:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
The bit I found towny about chez was his fight with rels.
That's the thing that's stopping me from nuking him atm.

On August 28 2015 03:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 03:38 Damdred wrote:
Lets be honest here, you are debating nukeing a third party who has helped town with shenanigans onto god father rayn.

Lynches Lt which has 0 town cred.

And ny death puts you closer to lylo.

Though if you are going to nuke me ows ho on and do it so I can give out as much info as I can so it doesn't get surprise here's a nuke.


I'm not going to nuke you.
I'm torn between chez and ff.

Hopefully I can reread something when I'm on lunch break.

On August 28 2015 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
K well since my boss is a fucking asshole and won't let me take a lunch break I guess I'm probably just going to yolo kill chez and hope for the best.




OK! So why did he do this ? Here is what I believe happened:
- OWS and Chezinu mafia together, maybe the last ones
- OWS delayed the time to make a decision during several hours
- Just after the nuke deadline passed, OWS finally posted he would nuke Chezinu
- But of course the nuke didn't work

And here is why he did it
He nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline so he would not kill his partner.
But he nuked Chezinu so he would gain town cred after Chez flipped.
He also nuked after the deadline so he still kept the nuke to use on anyone else in case Chezinu flipped; after all, supposing there are 5 mafias, he would be the last alive; nuking anyone would be good for him.

TLDR
OWS purposefully nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline. He did it so Chezinu lived another day; for the towncred if Chezinu flipped; and to keep the nuke for another person later.


Except it was unclear whether or not the nuke actually had to be fired 1 hour after deadline.
Even then, this analysis doesn't really say anything other than "Obi didn't nuke chez, so he's mafia." There could be any variation of town/mafia in your proposed analysis but it's inconclusive regardless.

So you didn't receive a PM saying the nuke had to be fired 1 hour before deadline ? Or was it not clear ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 14:18 GMT
#3124
And yes, the analysis is exactly "OWS shot the nuke 1 minute after nuke deadline, while he was in the thread for 7 hours, made 17 posts, and none of them looked like he was really thinking about who to lynch. BTW, Breshke who made this observation in his second to last post is now dead."
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 14:19 GMT
#3125
On August 28 2015 23:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 23:15 Rels wrote:
OK then OWS; do you think Chezinu is scum ?


He's my current most likely candidate, yes.

Vote him then
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 14:22 GMT
#3127
On August 28 2015 23:17 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 23:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 17:34 Rels wrote:
Now, about ObiWanShinobi.

I'm sure every town is the game has this guy as possible mafia, by virtue of the rayn town circle + POE. But now that I'm sure Chezinu is mafia, I'm pretty sure OWS is mafia as well.

Why ? Look at what Onegu posted just before the D4 post:
On August 28 2015 06:26 Onegu wrote:
The nuke on Chezinu was lanched after the nuke deadline. PMs with the nukes were told you had to launch 1 hour before deadline. The nuke will be refunded.

So every owner of a nuke given by Breshke or Yamato were told they had to fire the nuke at most 1 hour before deadline. Look at what JJ did:
On August 28 2015 04:56 JudgeJudy wrote:
lol I was hoping to see which one obi would go with, but I'm not sure how much longer I'll be around this afternoon. Go ahead and send yours at chez, maybe we can end the game tonight.

Moma has been holding on to a present! ^_^

##Nuke: Fecalfeast

He waited until 4 minutes before the nuke deadline to see what OWS would do; then he fired his nuke, so the nuke would work.

Now look at what OWS did:
On August 28 2015 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
K well since my boss is a fucking asshole and won't let me take a lunch break I guess I'm probably just going to yolo kill chez and hope for the best.

1 minute AFTER the nuke deadline, he tried to fire his nuke while EXPLAINING WHY HE DID IT SO LATE. So of course the nuke didn't work.

And it's not like he didn't have time to think about it! The whole thread only talked about nuke targets N3. OWS came back to the thread 6 HOURS BEFORE NUKE DEADLINE and posted SEVENTEEN POSTS until his nuke ONE MINUTE AFTER DEADLINE. All of these 17 posts says he's not sure about who to lynch.
But he was NOT LOOKING FOR CLUES ABOUT NUKING SOMEONE. He was just posting he's not sure. Here is town Breshke remarking it (second to last post ... RIP):
On August 28 2015 00:54 Breshke wrote:
Tbh I don't like how obi said he is reading stuff to make his decision but isn't showing any evidence of it in the thread. Like normally I feel like people have at least one or two quotes they want clarifying

Think he said he was phone posting so it could be hard for him to do so but kind of makes me think he is mafia


And here are the SEVENTEEN POSTS I talked about:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:
fidei I'll let you do your thing.

@OWS when you come back

1 - OK to nuke Chez ?

2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817

3 - What do you think of that ?
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.

OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".

OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.




I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff.
Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo.

On August 27 2015 22:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 22:49 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:
fidei I'll let you do your thing.

@OWS when you come back

1 - OK to nuke Chez ?

2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817

3 - What do you think of that ?
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.

OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".

OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.




I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff.
Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo.


Everybody wants to nuke the chez!

The town
The mafia
The brown?


I gathered.
Who should I nuke in your place? Forgive me if I missed it but I can't parse the thread via phone too well.

On August 27 2015 23:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 22:54 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:49 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:
fidei I'll let you do your thing.

@OWS when you come back

1 - OK to nuke Chez ?

2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817

3 - What do you think of that ?
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.

OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".

OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.




I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff.
Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo.


Everybody wants to nuke the chez!

The town
The mafia
The brown?


I gathered.
Who should I nuke in your place? Forgive me if I missed it but I can't parse the thread via phone too well.


FF, I think that should clear me.


Remind me why that is and why exactly I should do that?

On August 27 2015 23:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Doesn't role blocker return "no result" or how exactly does that happen?

On August 27 2015 23:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
@jj: he had two checks in one night? Where did he claim that? I can't look for myself.

Ff is 100% the best nuke in the case of conflicting role claims.

On August 28 2015 00:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 23:59 Breshke wrote:
Tictock FF could very well be mafia yes. There is a lot of discrepancies which does not look good for him. People can make bad checks like obviously checking geript there wasn't optimal because we already had two checks on him basically. I will also agree that on the other side of the same coin mafia can make sub optimal plays and bad claims and that could very well be what FF has done.

The fact of the mater is FF is going to get a check on KSC so weather you think FF is mafia or not i think it is optimal to let him liveto give us this information on KSC because if he says KSC is green as i have explained it basically confirms him.

Also do you not think it is weird that chez hasn't claimed what his role actually does? (has he?) Half the game is calling for him to get nuked you think he would try leverage it with his power.



Yeah that's not really how information works.

On August 28 2015 00:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
mmm
I feel like I could make a solid choice nuking either or chez/ff but that doesn't really make it easier.

On August 28 2015 00:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 00:32 Rels wrote:
Best part is your nuke could be fake ><


Yeah I'm gonna be kind of sad if it's fake.

On August 28 2015 01:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Shock and surprise nobody trusts me.
W/e.

On August 28 2015 01:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah I fucking get it.

On August 28 2015 01:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I kind of feel like chez would probably be the best nuke here, considering having him alive is going to shut discussion down for another day.

The thing is: can the same be said about ff?

On August 28 2015 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred could easily be on the lynch table tomorrow, nuking him seems like a bit of a waste at this juncture.

On August 28 2015 02:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 28 2015 01:49 Fidei86 wrote:
On August 28 2015 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred could easily be on the lynch table tomorrow, nuking him seems like a bit of a waste at this juncture.

Explain to me why town would lynch Damdred?


Ask the people that want to nuke him.

On August 28 2015 02:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 28 2015 02:02 geript wrote:
TBH, nuking him makes far more sense than lynching him. But it is kinda a waste if he has an antinuke.


Yeah.

On August 28 2015 02:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred would claim anti nukes regardless of whether or not he actually had them in this position though.

Chez is probably still the best nuke.

On August 28 2015 02:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
The bit I found towny about chez was his fight with rels.
That's the thing that's stopping me from nuking him atm.

On August 28 2015 03:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 28 2015 03:38 Damdred wrote:
Lets be honest here, you are debating nukeing a third party who has helped town with shenanigans onto god father rayn.

Lynches Lt which has 0 town cred.

And ny death puts you closer to lylo.

Though if you are going to nuke me ows ho on and do it so I can give out as much info as I can so it doesn't get surprise here's a nuke.


I'm not going to nuke you.
I'm torn between chez and ff.

Hopefully I can reread something when I'm on lunch break.

On August 28 2015 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
K well since my boss is a fucking asshole and won't let me take a lunch break I guess I'm probably just going to yolo kill chez and hope for the best.




OK! So why did he do this ? Here is what I believe happened:
- OWS and Chezinu mafia together, maybe the last ones
- OWS delayed the time to make a decision during several hours
- Just after the nuke deadline passed, OWS finally posted he would nuke Chezinu
- But of course the nuke didn't work

And here is why he did it
He nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline so he would not kill his partner.
But he nuked Chezinu so he would gain town cred after Chez flipped.
He also nuked after the deadline so he still kept the nuke to use on anyone else in case Chezinu flipped; after all, supposing there are 5 mafias, he would be the last alive; nuking anyone would be good for him.

TLDR
OWS purposefully nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline. He did it so Chezinu lived another day; for the towncred if Chezinu flipped; and to keep the nuke for another person later.


Except it was unclear whether or not the nuke actually had to be fired 1 hour after deadline.
Even then, this analysis doesn't really say anything other than "Obi didn't nuke chez, so he's mafia." There could be any variation of town/mafia in your proposed analysis but it's inconclusive regardless.

So you didn't receive a PM saying the nuke had to be fired 1 hour before deadline ? Or was it not clear ?

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 14:23 GMT
#3130
On August 28 2015 23:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 23:17 Rels wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 17:34 Rels wrote:
Now, about ObiWanShinobi.

I'm sure every town is the game has this guy as possible mafia, by virtue of the rayn town circle + POE. But now that I'm sure Chezinu is mafia, I'm pretty sure OWS is mafia as well.

Why ? Look at what Onegu posted just before the D4 post:
On August 28 2015 06:26 Onegu wrote:
The nuke on Chezinu was lanched after the nuke deadline. PMs with the nukes were told you had to launch 1 hour before deadline. The nuke will be refunded.

So every owner of a nuke given by Breshke or Yamato were told they had to fire the nuke at most 1 hour before deadline. Look at what JJ did:
On August 28 2015 04:56 JudgeJudy wrote:
lol I was hoping to see which one obi would go with, but I'm not sure how much longer I'll be around this afternoon. Go ahead and send yours at chez, maybe we can end the game tonight.

Moma has been holding on to a present! ^_^

##Nuke: Fecalfeast

He waited until 4 minutes before the nuke deadline to see what OWS would do; then he fired his nuke, so the nuke would work.

Now look at what OWS did:
On August 28 2015 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
K well since my boss is a fucking asshole and won't let me take a lunch break I guess I'm probably just going to yolo kill chez and hope for the best.

1 minute AFTER the nuke deadline, he tried to fire his nuke while EXPLAINING WHY HE DID IT SO LATE. So of course the nuke didn't work.

And it's not like he didn't have time to think about it! The whole thread only talked about nuke targets N3. OWS came back to the thread 6 HOURS BEFORE NUKE DEADLINE and posted SEVENTEEN POSTS until his nuke ONE MINUTE AFTER DEADLINE. All of these 17 posts says he's not sure about who to lynch.
But he was NOT LOOKING FOR CLUES ABOUT NUKING SOMEONE. He was just posting he's not sure. Here is town Breshke remarking it (second to last post ... RIP):
On August 28 2015 00:54 Breshke wrote:
Tbh I don't like how obi said he is reading stuff to make his decision but isn't showing any evidence of it in the thread. Like normally I feel like people have at least one or two quotes they want clarifying

Think he said he was phone posting so it could be hard for him to do so but kind of makes me think he is mafia


And here are the SEVENTEEN POSTS I talked about:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:
fidei I'll let you do your thing.

@OWS when you come back

1 - OK to nuke Chez ?

2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817

3 - What do you think of that ?
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On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.

OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".

OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.




I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff.
Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo.

On August 27 2015 22:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 27 2015 22:49 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:
fidei I'll let you do your thing.

@OWS when you come back

1 - OK to nuke Chez ?

2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817

3 - What do you think of that ?
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.

OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".

OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.




I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff.
Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo.


Everybody wants to nuke the chez!

The town
The mafia
The brown?


I gathered.
Who should I nuke in your place? Forgive me if I missed it but I can't parse the thread via phone too well.

On August 27 2015 23:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 22:54 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:49 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:
fidei I'll let you do your thing.

@OWS when you come back

1 - OK to nuke Chez ?

2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817

3 - What do you think of that ?
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.

OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".

OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.




I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff.
Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo.


Everybody wants to nuke the chez!

The town
The mafia
The brown?


I gathered.
Who should I nuke in your place? Forgive me if I missed it but I can't parse the thread via phone too well.


FF, I think that should clear me.


Remind me why that is and why exactly I should do that?

On August 27 2015 23:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Doesn't role blocker return "no result" or how exactly does that happen?

On August 27 2015 23:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
@jj: he had two checks in one night? Where did he claim that? I can't look for myself.

Ff is 100% the best nuke in the case of conflicting role claims.

On August 28 2015 00:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 27 2015 23:59 Breshke wrote:
Tictock FF could very well be mafia yes. There is a lot of discrepancies which does not look good for him. People can make bad checks like obviously checking geript there wasn't optimal because we already had two checks on him basically. I will also agree that on the other side of the same coin mafia can make sub optimal plays and bad claims and that could very well be what FF has done.

The fact of the mater is FF is going to get a check on KSC so weather you think FF is mafia or not i think it is optimal to let him liveto give us this information on KSC because if he says KSC is green as i have explained it basically confirms him.

Also do you not think it is weird that chez hasn't claimed what his role actually does? (has he?) Half the game is calling for him to get nuked you think he would try leverage it with his power.



Yeah that's not really how information works.

On August 28 2015 00:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
mmm
I feel like I could make a solid choice nuking either or chez/ff but that doesn't really make it easier.

On August 28 2015 00:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 00:32 Rels wrote:
Best part is your nuke could be fake ><


Yeah I'm gonna be kind of sad if it's fake.

On August 28 2015 01:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Shock and surprise nobody trusts me.
W/e.

On August 28 2015 01:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah I fucking get it.

On August 28 2015 01:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I kind of feel like chez would probably be the best nuke here, considering having him alive is going to shut discussion down for another day.

The thing is: can the same be said about ff?

On August 28 2015 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred could easily be on the lynch table tomorrow, nuking him seems like a bit of a waste at this juncture.

On August 28 2015 02:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 01:49 Fidei86 wrote:
On August 28 2015 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred could easily be on the lynch table tomorrow, nuking him seems like a bit of a waste at this juncture.

Explain to me why town would lynch Damdred?


Ask the people that want to nuke him.

On August 28 2015 02:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 02:02 geript wrote:
TBH, nuking him makes far more sense than lynching him. But it is kinda a waste if he has an antinuke.


Yeah.

On August 28 2015 02:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred would claim anti nukes regardless of whether or not he actually had them in this position though.

Chez is probably still the best nuke.

On August 28 2015 02:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
The bit I found towny about chez was his fight with rels.
That's the thing that's stopping me from nuking him atm.

On August 28 2015 03:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 03:38 Damdred wrote:
Lets be honest here, you are debating nukeing a third party who has helped town with shenanigans onto god father rayn.

Lynches Lt which has 0 town cred.

And ny death puts you closer to lylo.

Though if you are going to nuke me ows ho on and do it so I can give out as much info as I can so it doesn't get surprise here's a nuke.


I'm not going to nuke you.
I'm torn between chez and ff.

Hopefully I can reread something when I'm on lunch break.

On August 28 2015 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
K well since my boss is a fucking asshole and won't let me take a lunch break I guess I'm probably just going to yolo kill chez and hope for the best.




OK! So why did he do this ? Here is what I believe happened:
- OWS and Chezinu mafia together, maybe the last ones
- OWS delayed the time to make a decision during several hours
- Just after the nuke deadline passed, OWS finally posted he would nuke Chezinu
- But of course the nuke didn't work

And here is why he did it
He nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline so he would not kill his partner.
But he nuked Chezinu so he would gain town cred after Chez flipped.
He also nuked after the deadline so he still kept the nuke to use on anyone else in case Chezinu flipped; after all, supposing there are 5 mafias, he would be the last alive; nuking anyone would be good for him.

TLDR
OWS purposefully nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline. He did it so Chezinu lived another day; for the towncred if Chezinu flipped; and to keep the nuke for another person later.


Except it was unclear whether or not the nuke actually had to be fired 1 hour after deadline.
Even then, this analysis doesn't really say anything other than "Obi didn't nuke chez, so he's mafia." There could be any variation of town/mafia in your proposed analysis but it's inconclusive regardless.

So you didn't receive a PM saying the nuke had to be fired 1 hour before deadline ? Or was it not clear ?


Yes and no. It was unclear.
I thought the 1 hour before deadline bit was in regards to the actual deadline rather than the silent deadline. If it worked for tubesock, why wouldn't it work for me?
/shrug

OK. JJ if you received a PM like that yourself; was it unclear ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 14:24 GMT
#3131
On August 28 2015 23:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 23:22 Rels wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:17 Rels wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 17:34 Rels wrote:
Now, about ObiWanShinobi.

I'm sure every town is the game has this guy as possible mafia, by virtue of the rayn town circle + POE. But now that I'm sure Chezinu is mafia, I'm pretty sure OWS is mafia as well.

Why ? Look at what Onegu posted just before the D4 post:
On August 28 2015 06:26 Onegu wrote:
The nuke on Chezinu was lanched after the nuke deadline. PMs with the nukes were told you had to launch 1 hour before deadline. The nuke will be refunded.

So every owner of a nuke given by Breshke or Yamato were told they had to fire the nuke at most 1 hour before deadline. Look at what JJ did:
On August 28 2015 04:56 JudgeJudy wrote:
lol I was hoping to see which one obi would go with, but I'm not sure how much longer I'll be around this afternoon. Go ahead and send yours at chez, maybe we can end the game tonight.

Moma has been holding on to a present! ^_^

##Nuke: Fecalfeast

He waited until 4 minutes before the nuke deadline to see what OWS would do; then he fired his nuke, so the nuke would work.

Now look at what OWS did:
On August 28 2015 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
K well since my boss is a fucking asshole and won't let me take a lunch break I guess I'm probably just going to yolo kill chez and hope for the best.

1 minute AFTER the nuke deadline, he tried to fire his nuke while EXPLAINING WHY HE DID IT SO LATE. So of course the nuke didn't work.

And it's not like he didn't have time to think about it! The whole thread only talked about nuke targets N3. OWS came back to the thread 6 HOURS BEFORE NUKE DEADLINE and posted SEVENTEEN POSTS until his nuke ONE MINUTE AFTER DEADLINE. All of these 17 posts says he's not sure about who to lynch.
But he was NOT LOOKING FOR CLUES ABOUT NUKING SOMEONE. He was just posting he's not sure. Here is town Breshke remarking it (second to last post ... RIP):
On August 28 2015 00:54 Breshke wrote:
Tbh I don't like how obi said he is reading stuff to make his decision but isn't showing any evidence of it in the thread. Like normally I feel like people have at least one or two quotes they want clarifying

Think he said he was phone posting so it could be hard for him to do so but kind of makes me think he is mafia


And here are the SEVENTEEN POSTS I talked about:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:
fidei I'll let you do your thing.

@OWS when you come back

1 - OK to nuke Chez ?

2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817

3 - What do you think of that ?
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.

OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".

OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.




I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff.
Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo.

On August 27 2015 22:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 22:49 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:
fidei I'll let you do your thing.

@OWS when you come back

1 - OK to nuke Chez ?

2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817

3 - What do you think of that ?
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.

OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".

OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.




I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff.
Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo.


Everybody wants to nuke the chez!

The town
The mafia
The brown?


I gathered.
Who should I nuke in your place? Forgive me if I missed it but I can't parse the thread via phone too well.

On August 27 2015 23:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 22:54 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:49 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:
fidei I'll let you do your thing.

@OWS when you come back

1 - OK to nuke Chez ?

2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817

3 - What do you think of that ?
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.

OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".

OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.




I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff.
Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo.


Everybody wants to nuke the chez!

The town
The mafia
The brown?


I gathered.
Who should I nuke in your place? Forgive me if I missed it but I can't parse the thread via phone too well.


FF, I think that should clear me.


Remind me why that is and why exactly I should do that?

On August 27 2015 23:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Doesn't role blocker return "no result" or how exactly does that happen?

On August 27 2015 23:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
@jj: he had two checks in one night? Where did he claim that? I can't look for myself.

Ff is 100% the best nuke in the case of conflicting role claims.

On August 28 2015 00:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 23:59 Breshke wrote:
Tictock FF could very well be mafia yes. There is a lot of discrepancies which does not look good for him. People can make bad checks like obviously checking geript there wasn't optimal because we already had two checks on him basically. I will also agree that on the other side of the same coin mafia can make sub optimal plays and bad claims and that could very well be what FF has done.

The fact of the mater is FF is going to get a check on KSC so weather you think FF is mafia or not i think it is optimal to let him liveto give us this information on KSC because if he says KSC is green as i have explained it basically confirms him.

Also do you not think it is weird that chez hasn't claimed what his role actually does? (has he?) Half the game is calling for him to get nuked you think he would try leverage it with his power.



Yeah that's not really how information works.

On August 28 2015 00:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
mmm
I feel like I could make a solid choice nuking either or chez/ff but that doesn't really make it easier.

On August 28 2015 00:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 00:32 Rels wrote:
Best part is your nuke could be fake ><


Yeah I'm gonna be kind of sad if it's fake.

On August 28 2015 01:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Shock and surprise nobody trusts me.
W/e.

On August 28 2015 01:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah I fucking get it.

On August 28 2015 01:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I kind of feel like chez would probably be the best nuke here, considering having him alive is going to shut discussion down for another day.

The thing is: can the same be said about ff?

On August 28 2015 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred could easily be on the lynch table tomorrow, nuking him seems like a bit of a waste at this juncture.

On August 28 2015 02:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 01:49 Fidei86 wrote:
On August 28 2015 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred could easily be on the lynch table tomorrow, nuking him seems like a bit of a waste at this juncture.

Explain to me why town would lynch Damdred?


Ask the people that want to nuke him.

On August 28 2015 02:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 02:02 geript wrote:
TBH, nuking him makes far more sense than lynching him. But it is kinda a waste if he has an antinuke.


Yeah.

On August 28 2015 02:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred would claim anti nukes regardless of whether or not he actually had them in this position though.

Chez is probably still the best nuke.

On August 28 2015 02:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
The bit I found towny about chez was his fight with rels.
That's the thing that's stopping me from nuking him atm.

On August 28 2015 03:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 03:38 Damdred wrote:
Lets be honest here, you are debating nukeing a third party who has helped town with shenanigans onto god father rayn.

Lynches Lt which has 0 town cred.

And ny death puts you closer to lylo.

Though if you are going to nuke me ows ho on and do it so I can give out as much info as I can so it doesn't get surprise here's a nuke.


I'm not going to nuke you.
I'm torn between chez and ff.

Hopefully I can reread something when I'm on lunch break.

On August 28 2015 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
K well since my boss is a fucking asshole and won't let me take a lunch break I guess I'm probably just going to yolo kill chez and hope for the best.




OK! So why did he do this ? Here is what I believe happened:
- OWS and Chezinu mafia together, maybe the last ones
- OWS delayed the time to make a decision during several hours
- Just after the nuke deadline passed, OWS finally posted he would nuke Chezinu
- But of course the nuke didn't work

And here is why he did it
He nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline so he would not kill his partner.
But he nuked Chezinu so he would gain town cred after Chez flipped.
He also nuked after the deadline so he still kept the nuke to use on anyone else in case Chezinu flipped; after all, supposing there are 5 mafias, he would be the last alive; nuking anyone would be good for him.

TLDR
OWS purposefully nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline. He did it so Chezinu lived another day; for the towncred if Chezinu flipped; and to keep the nuke for another person later.


Except it was unclear whether or not the nuke actually had to be fired 1 hour after deadline.
Even then, this analysis doesn't really say anything other than "Obi didn't nuke chez, so he's mafia." There could be any variation of town/mafia in your proposed analysis but it's inconclusive regardless.

So you didn't receive a PM saying the nuke had to be fired 1 hour before deadline ? Or was it not clear ?



I fucking answered it.
Get off my dick.

No.
Who could be partner with Chezinu ?
I think it's you or KSC. Are you OK nuking KSC ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 14:29 GMT
#3135
You: because of the 1 minute after deadline thing, and because I was thinking you were town D1 and you didn't do a whole lot since; exactly like your last game where you got lynched at LYLO, where everybody townread you early, then gradually realized you were mafia 'cause you didn't do anything starting D3.

KSC:
On August 28 2015 22:46 Rels wrote:
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On August 28 2015 22:35 JudgeJudy wrote:
What do you think about KSC, Rels? Now that FF has flipped town, do you buy the claim that KSC was fake claiming cop as town?

We need to kill him before LYLO.
I had no scumread nor townread of him until this morning. The guy made sure he was unreadable.
Now, the FF flip this morning confirmed he was lying about the check. The moment that happened, he did this:
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On August 28 2015 08:14 KelsierSC wrote:
i checked a dead man


Then 20 minutes later he actually rescinded his cop claim:
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On August 28 2015 08:32 KelsierSC wrote:
soap

here's the thing, i don't actually have a way of checking people

i'm a town vigi, i shot geript n1 for the lolz,

he didnt die so i assumed he was a vet and called him town
then i took a punt on LT being mafia next night

but for my town defence, i got people to vote rayn
and LT
so im town

i just havent really played properly


So several things are super weird:
1 - he fakeclaimed for the entire game
2 - he made sure he was unreadable for the entire game
3 - we don't know if KSC would have rescinded his claim without FF flipping
4 - before he rescinded, he posted he checked a dead man; maybe he tried to cover his fakeclaim by claiming the dead check, before realising it's not coherent, then he claimed vig
5 - he didn't post much this game but is over defensive the moment someone talks about him being scummy. KSC stating he was the main force behind rayn and LT's lynches is LOL worthy

We need to lynch him sooner or later. Not over 100% mafia Chezinu, but maybe tomorrow.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 14:32 GMT
#3138
On August 28 2015 23:31 JudgeJudy wrote:
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On August 28 2015 23:23 Rels wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:17 Rels wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 17:34 Rels wrote:
Now, about ObiWanShinobi.

I'm sure every town is the game has this guy as possible mafia, by virtue of the rayn town circle + POE. But now that I'm sure Chezinu is mafia, I'm pretty sure OWS is mafia as well.

Why ? Look at what Onegu posted just before the D4 post:
On August 28 2015 06:26 Onegu wrote:
The nuke on Chezinu was lanched after the nuke deadline. PMs with the nukes were told you had to launch 1 hour before deadline. The nuke will be refunded.

So every owner of a nuke given by Breshke or Yamato were told they had to fire the nuke at most 1 hour before deadline. Look at what JJ did:
On August 28 2015 04:56 JudgeJudy wrote:
lol I was hoping to see which one obi would go with, but I'm not sure how much longer I'll be around this afternoon. Go ahead and send yours at chez, maybe we can end the game tonight.

Moma has been holding on to a present! ^_^

##Nuke: Fecalfeast

He waited until 4 minutes before the nuke deadline to see what OWS would do; then he fired his nuke, so the nuke would work.

Now look at what OWS did:
On August 28 2015 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
K well since my boss is a fucking asshole and won't let me take a lunch break I guess I'm probably just going to yolo kill chez and hope for the best.

1 minute AFTER the nuke deadline, he tried to fire his nuke while EXPLAINING WHY HE DID IT SO LATE. So of course the nuke didn't work.

And it's not like he didn't have time to think about it! The whole thread only talked about nuke targets N3. OWS came back to the thread 6 HOURS BEFORE NUKE DEADLINE and posted SEVENTEEN POSTS until his nuke ONE MINUTE AFTER DEADLINE. All of these 17 posts says he's not sure about who to lynch.
But he was NOT LOOKING FOR CLUES ABOUT NUKING SOMEONE. He was just posting he's not sure. Here is town Breshke remarking it (second to last post ... RIP):
On August 28 2015 00:54 Breshke wrote:
Tbh I don't like how obi said he is reading stuff to make his decision but isn't showing any evidence of it in the thread. Like normally I feel like people have at least one or two quotes they want clarifying

Think he said he was phone posting so it could be hard for him to do so but kind of makes me think he is mafia


And here are the SEVENTEEN POSTS I talked about:
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On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:
fidei I'll let you do your thing.

@OWS when you come back

1 - OK to nuke Chez ?

2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817

3 - What do you think of that ?
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On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
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On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.

OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".

OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.




I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff.
Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo.

On August 27 2015 22:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 27 2015 22:49 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:
fidei I'll let you do your thing.

@OWS when you come back

1 - OK to nuke Chez ?

2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817

3 - What do you think of that ?
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On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
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On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.

OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".

OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.




I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff.
Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo.


Everybody wants to nuke the chez!

The town
The mafia
The brown?


I gathered.
Who should I nuke in your place? Forgive me if I missed it but I can't parse the thread via phone too well.

On August 27 2015 23:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 27 2015 22:54 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:49 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:
fidei I'll let you do your thing.

@OWS when you come back

1 - OK to nuke Chez ?

2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817

3 - What do you think of that ?
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On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
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On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.

OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".

OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.




I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff.
Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo.


Everybody wants to nuke the chez!

The town
The mafia
The brown?


I gathered.
Who should I nuke in your place? Forgive me if I missed it but I can't parse the thread via phone too well.


FF, I think that should clear me.


Remind me why that is and why exactly I should do that?

On August 27 2015 23:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Doesn't role blocker return "no result" or how exactly does that happen?

On August 27 2015 23:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
@jj: he had two checks in one night? Where did he claim that? I can't look for myself.

Ff is 100% the best nuke in the case of conflicting role claims.

On August 28 2015 00:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 27 2015 23:59 Breshke wrote:
Tictock FF could very well be mafia yes. There is a lot of discrepancies which does not look good for him. People can make bad checks like obviously checking geript there wasn't optimal because we already had two checks on him basically. I will also agree that on the other side of the same coin mafia can make sub optimal plays and bad claims and that could very well be what FF has done.

The fact of the mater is FF is going to get a check on KSC so weather you think FF is mafia or not i think it is optimal to let him liveto give us this information on KSC because if he says KSC is green as i have explained it basically confirms him.

Also do you not think it is weird that chez hasn't claimed what his role actually does? (has he?) Half the game is calling for him to get nuked you think he would try leverage it with his power.



Yeah that's not really how information works.

On August 28 2015 00:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
mmm
I feel like I could make a solid choice nuking either or chez/ff but that doesn't really make it easier.

On August 28 2015 00:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 28 2015 00:32 Rels wrote:
Best part is your nuke could be fake ><


Yeah I'm gonna be kind of sad if it's fake.

On August 28 2015 01:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Shock and surprise nobody trusts me.
W/e.

On August 28 2015 01:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah I fucking get it.

On August 28 2015 01:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I kind of feel like chez would probably be the best nuke here, considering having him alive is going to shut discussion down for another day.

The thing is: can the same be said about ff?

On August 28 2015 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred could easily be on the lynch table tomorrow, nuking him seems like a bit of a waste at this juncture.

On August 28 2015 02:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 28 2015 01:49 Fidei86 wrote:
On August 28 2015 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred could easily be on the lynch table tomorrow, nuking him seems like a bit of a waste at this juncture.

Explain to me why town would lynch Damdred?


Ask the people that want to nuke him.

On August 28 2015 02:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 28 2015 02:02 geript wrote:
TBH, nuking him makes far more sense than lynching him. But it is kinda a waste if he has an antinuke.


Yeah.

On August 28 2015 02:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred would claim anti nukes regardless of whether or not he actually had them in this position though.

Chez is probably still the best nuke.

On August 28 2015 02:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
The bit I found towny about chez was his fight with rels.
That's the thing that's stopping me from nuking him atm.

On August 28 2015 03:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 28 2015 03:38 Damdred wrote:
Lets be honest here, you are debating nukeing a third party who has helped town with shenanigans onto god father rayn.

Lynches Lt which has 0 town cred.

And ny death puts you closer to lylo.

Though if you are going to nuke me ows ho on and do it so I can give out as much info as I can so it doesn't get surprise here's a nuke.


I'm not going to nuke you.
I'm torn between chez and ff.

Hopefully I can reread something when I'm on lunch break.

On August 28 2015 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
K well since my boss is a fucking asshole and won't let me take a lunch break I guess I'm probably just going to yolo kill chez and hope for the best.




OK! So why did he do this ? Here is what I believe happened:
- OWS and Chezinu mafia together, maybe the last ones
- OWS delayed the time to make a decision during several hours
- Just after the nuke deadline passed, OWS finally posted he would nuke Chezinu
- But of course the nuke didn't work

And here is why he did it
He nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline so he would not kill his partner.
But he nuked Chezinu so he would gain town cred after Chez flipped.
He also nuked after the deadline so he still kept the nuke to use on anyone else in case Chezinu flipped; after all, supposing there are 5 mafias, he would be the last alive; nuking anyone would be good for him.

TLDR
OWS purposefully nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline. He did it so Chezinu lived another day; for the towncred if Chezinu flipped; and to keep the nuke for another person later.


Except it was unclear whether or not the nuke actually had to be fired 1 hour after deadline.
Even then, this analysis doesn't really say anything other than "Obi didn't nuke chez, so he's mafia." There could be any variation of town/mafia in your proposed analysis but it's inconclusive regardless.

So you didn't receive a PM saying the nuke had to be fired 1 hour before deadline ? Or was it not clear ?


Yes and no. It was unclear.
I thought the 1 hour before deadline bit was in regards to the actual deadline rather than the silent deadline. If it worked for tubesock, why wouldn't it work for me?
/shrug

OK. JJ if you received a PM like that yourself; was it unclear ?


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Yeah it was.

Oh. Then my case is not strong.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 14:33 GMT
#3140
On August 28 2015 23:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 28 2015 23:29 Rels wrote:
You: because of the 1 minute after deadline thing, and because I was thinking you were town D1 and you didn't do a whole lot since; exactly like your last game where you got lynched at LYLO, where everybody townread you early, then gradually realized you were mafia 'cause you didn't do anything starting D3.

KSC:
On August 28 2015 22:46 Rels wrote:
On August 28 2015 22:35 JudgeJudy wrote:
What do you think about KSC, Rels? Now that FF has flipped town, do you buy the claim that KSC was fake claiming cop as town?

We need to kill him before LYLO.
I had no scumread nor townread of him until this morning. The guy made sure he was unreadable.
Now, the FF flip this morning confirmed he was lying about the check. The moment that happened, he did this:
On August 28 2015 08:14 KelsierSC wrote:
i checked a dead man


Then 20 minutes later he actually rescinded his cop claim:
On August 28 2015 08:32 KelsierSC wrote:
soap

here's the thing, i don't actually have a way of checking people

i'm a town vigi, i shot geript n1 for the lolz,

he didnt die so i assumed he was a vet and called him town
then i took a punt on LT being mafia next night

but for my town defence, i got people to vote rayn
and LT
so im town

i just havent really played properly


So several things are super weird:
1 - he fakeclaimed for the entire game
2 - he made sure he was unreadable for the entire game
3 - we don't know if KSC would have rescinded his claim without FF flipping
4 - before he rescinded, he posted he checked a dead man; maybe he tried to cover his fakeclaim by claiming the dead check, before realising it's not coherent, then he claimed vig
5 - he didn't post much this game but is over defensive the moment someone talks about him being scummy. KSC stating he was the main force behind rayn and LT's lynches is LOL worthy

We need to lynch him sooner or later. Not over 100% mafia Chezinu, but maybe tomorrow.



I don't see how these points warrant a lynch.

OK. I'll let you make cases on who you want then.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 14:35 GMT
#3141
On August 28 2015 23:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I may be biased because I keep thinking a KSC lynch is bad.
I feel like people are resigned towards trying to lynch him for being lazy, and I'm not sure that's a tell for him either way.

I don't want to spend two whole days lynching him. He didn't do shit the whole game. He can't even be vote analyzed since he voted outside wagons each time; and now we know the reason he did that is fake.
I want to nuke him so we don't have to deal with him at LYLO.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 14:40 GMT
#3148
On August 28 2015 23:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 28 2015 23:33 Rels wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:29 Rels wrote:
You: because of the 1 minute after deadline thing, and because I was thinking you were town D1 and you didn't do a whole lot since; exactly like your last game where you got lynched at LYLO, where everybody townread you early, then gradually realized you were mafia 'cause you didn't do anything starting D3.

KSC:
On August 28 2015 22:46 Rels wrote:
On August 28 2015 22:35 JudgeJudy wrote:
What do you think about KSC, Rels? Now that FF has flipped town, do you buy the claim that KSC was fake claiming cop as town?

We need to kill him before LYLO.
I had no scumread nor townread of him until this morning. The guy made sure he was unreadable.
Now, the FF flip this morning confirmed he was lying about the check. The moment that happened, he did this:
On August 28 2015 08:14 KelsierSC wrote:
i checked a dead man


Then 20 minutes later he actually rescinded his cop claim:
On August 28 2015 08:32 KelsierSC wrote:
soap

here's the thing, i don't actually have a way of checking people

i'm a town vigi, i shot geript n1 for the lolz,

he didnt die so i assumed he was a vet and called him town
then i took a punt on LT being mafia next night

but for my town defence, i got people to vote rayn
and LT
so im town

i just havent really played properly


So several things are super weird:
1 - he fakeclaimed for the entire game
2 - he made sure he was unreadable for the entire game
3 - we don't know if KSC would have rescinded his claim without FF flipping
4 - before he rescinded, he posted he checked a dead man; maybe he tried to cover his fakeclaim by claiming the dead check, before realising it's not coherent, then he claimed vig
5 - he didn't post much this game but is over defensive the moment someone talks about him being scummy. KSC stating he was the main force behind rayn and LT's lynches is LOL worthy

We need to lynch him sooner or later. Not over 100% mafia Chezinu, but maybe tomorrow.



I don't see how these points warrant a lynch.

OK. I'll let you make cases on who you want then.


I doubt I'll make a giant case on someone but I'll be doing stuff today.

Cool (=
Last thing: can you vote Chezinu please ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 14:40 GMT
#3149
On August 28 2015 23:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 28 2015 23:35 JudgeJudy wrote:
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On August 28 2015 23:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I may be biased because I keep thinking a KSC lynch is bad.
I feel like people are resigned towards trying to lynch him for being lazy, and I'm not sure that's a tell for him either way.


On August 21 2015 02:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kels will step up eventually if he is town.


You used that exact tell to read him earlier though...



No I didn't.
I mostly left him alone.

I'm aware that I've been hedging on him a lot but I've had tons of trouble reading KSC in the past so I keep trying to put it off as much as I can.

Hey. You said KSC will step up eventually. He didn't. Let's nuke him so we don't have to waste a lynch on him.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 14:42 GMT
#3150
Alright now about the Damdred geript stuff I didn't get.

On August 28 2015 08:01 Damdred wrote:
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On August 28 2015 07:59 geript wrote:
But idk what Damdred's role does supposedly so....


Lie Lie Lie Lie Lie.

Keep lying geript

@Damdred: does geript knows your role or no ? (and by role I mean full abilities, not just wincon)
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 14:46 GMT
#3152
On August 28 2015 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 28 2015 23:40 Rels wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:35 JudgeJudy wrote:
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On August 28 2015 23:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I may be biased because I keep thinking a KSC lynch is bad.
I feel like people are resigned towards trying to lynch him for being lazy, and I'm not sure that's a tell for him either way.


On August 21 2015 02:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kels will step up eventually if he is town.


You used that exact tell to read him earlier though...



No I didn't.
I mostly left him alone.

I'm aware that I've been hedging on him a lot but I've had tons of trouble reading KSC in the past so I keep trying to put it off as much as I can.

Hey. You said KSC will step up eventually. He didn't. Let's nuke him so we don't have to waste a lynch on him.


I am well aware of this.
But he lynched mafia twice, which technically falls under stepping up.

I'm going to spend some time looking into it (after mkx) but his play kind of reminds me of the last game he played where he was town and he lynched my teammates after huge bouts of inactivity.

He didn't do shit. LT's lynch was decided before his red check.
He fakeclaimed which got FF to get nuked because we had two different checks on the same target.
He caused the death of a cop.
And when said cop flipped, he rescinded his claim.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 14:48 GMT
#3153
He could have avoided FF's nuke yesterday by saying his check was faked.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 14:52 GMT
#3155
On August 28 2015 23:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 28 2015 23:46 Rels wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:40 Rels wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:35 JudgeJudy wrote:
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On August 28 2015 23:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I may be biased because I keep thinking a KSC lynch is bad.
I feel like people are resigned towards trying to lynch him for being lazy, and I'm not sure that's a tell for him either way.


On August 21 2015 02:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kels will step up eventually if he is town.


You used that exact tell to read him earlier though...



No I didn't.
I mostly left him alone.

I'm aware that I've been hedging on him a lot but I've had tons of trouble reading KSC in the past so I keep trying to put it off as much as I can.

Hey. You said KSC will step up eventually. He didn't. Let's nuke him so we don't have to waste a lynch on him.


I am well aware of this.
But he lynched mafia twice, which technically falls under stepping up.

I'm going to spend some time looking into it (after mkx) but his play kind of reminds me of the last game he played where he was town and he lynched my teammates after huge bouts of inactivity.

He didn't do shit. LT's lynch was decided before his red check.
He fakeclaimed which got FF to get nuked because we had two different checks on the same target.
He caused the death of a cop.
And when said cop flipped, he rescinded his claim.


I might be remembering things wrong, then.
Hrm.

Maybe I'm wrong on the helping the LT lynch.
LT was confirmed mafia in my mind N2 for the 3 posts saying "check rayn" + sheeping a vote on me + not switching while being semi AFK + nuking not the second vote wagon. But maybe KSC's red check helped others vote him.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 14:54 GMT
#3156
I've gotta say OWS: the fact that you voted ruxxar D1 + you didn't sheep a vote on me at some point D2 is town indicative. Now that my "nuke Chez 1 minute late" case is shut down I think you're town. Less than the town circle, but above the others.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 14:55 GMT
#3157
Damdred where did you go ? I want answers! I don't get why you're not pushing geript super hard if geript knew your abilities / wincon and still wanted to lynch you.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 15:00 GMT
#3159
Damdred two questions:

Does geript knows your role or no ? (and by role I mean full abilities, not just wincon)
Why are you so defensive about getting killed / nuked if your wincon is you win even if you die ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 15:02 GMT
#3161
On August 28 2015 23:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 28 2015 23:52 Rels wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:46 Rels wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:40 Rels wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:35 JudgeJudy wrote:
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On August 28 2015 23:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I may be biased because I keep thinking a KSC lynch is bad.
I feel like people are resigned towards trying to lynch him for being lazy, and I'm not sure that's a tell for him either way.


On August 21 2015 02:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kels will step up eventually if he is town.


You used that exact tell to read him earlier though...



No I didn't.
I mostly left him alone.

I'm aware that I've been hedging on him a lot but I've had tons of trouble reading KSC in the past so I keep trying to put it off as much as I can.

Hey. You said KSC will step up eventually. He didn't. Let's nuke him so we don't have to waste a lynch on him.


I am well aware of this.
But he lynched mafia twice, which technically falls under stepping up.

I'm going to spend some time looking into it (after mkx) but his play kind of reminds me of the last game he played where he was town and he lynched my teammates after huge bouts of inactivity.

He didn't do shit. LT's lynch was decided before his red check.
He fakeclaimed which got FF to get nuked because we had two different checks on the same target.
He caused the death of a cop.
And when said cop flipped, he rescinded his claim.


I might be remembering things wrong, then.
Hrm.

Maybe I'm wrong on the helping the LT lynch.
LT was confirmed mafia in my mind N2 for the 3 posts saying "check rayn" + sheeping a vote on me + not switching while being semi AFK + nuking not the second vote wagon. But maybe KSC's red check helped others vote him.


Honestly I do feel like I have to look at it again. I've been writing it off as "he lynched mafia" so I mostly gave him a pass (plus, I thought him defending rux was towny/goofy) but it might not be enough at this juncture.

Oh wow. You made me think of something. I think Chezinu said he was scumreading KSC 'cause KSC defended him D1, and he couldn't know Chez was town.
Since Chezinu is mafia, the argument can be turned around; why would KSC defend Chezinu D1.
I'm gonna check that.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 15:06 GMT
#3162
On August 29 2015 00:02 Damdred wrote:
I explained my role to geript yes.
I don't win even if I die, I win if I survive or if fid survives since I got my upgrade.

OK I feel dumb for not understanding that =X

On August 29 2015 00:02 Damdred wrote:
Geript being retarded doesn't make him mafia, it just makes it possible for him to be a godfather but ff did check geript so he still has sa green check to fall back on.

Just a framer would do. Remember N2 tube the framer still lived, so FF check could have been framed. We only have one check on geript now.
Plus, I find weird that he put suspicions on you immediately after EON3; you say he's lying; then he rescind his accusation; and you let it go.
Does geript being retarded really not making him mafia ? (I want meta!)
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 15:22 GMT
#3163
On August 29 2015 00:02 Rels wrote:
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On August 28 2015 23:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:52 Rels wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:46 Rels wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:40 Rels wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:35 JudgeJudy wrote:
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On August 28 2015 23:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I may be biased because I keep thinking a KSC lynch is bad.
I feel like people are resigned towards trying to lynch him for being lazy, and I'm not sure that's a tell for him either way.


On August 21 2015 02:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kels will step up eventually if he is town.


You used that exact tell to read him earlier though...



No I didn't.
I mostly left him alone.

I'm aware that I've been hedging on him a lot but I've had tons of trouble reading KSC in the past so I keep trying to put it off as much as I can.

Hey. You said KSC will step up eventually. He didn't. Let's nuke him so we don't have to waste a lynch on him.


I am well aware of this.
But he lynched mafia twice, which technically falls under stepping up.

I'm going to spend some time looking into it (after mkx) but his play kind of reminds me of the last game he played where he was town and he lynched my teammates after huge bouts of inactivity.

He didn't do shit. LT's lynch was decided before his red check.
He fakeclaimed which got FF to get nuked because we had two different checks on the same target.
He caused the death of a cop.
And when said cop flipped, he rescinded his claim.


I might be remembering things wrong, then.
Hrm.

Maybe I'm wrong on the helping the LT lynch.
LT was confirmed mafia in my mind N2 for the 3 posts saying "check rayn" + sheeping a vote on me + not switching while being semi AFK + nuking not the second vote wagon. But maybe KSC's red check helped others vote him.


Honestly I do feel like I have to look at it again. I've been writing it off as "he lynched mafia" so I mostly gave him a pass (plus, I thought him defending rux was towny/goofy) but it might not be enough at this juncture.

Oh wow. You made me think of something. I think Chezinu said he was scumreading KSC 'cause KSC defended him D1, and he couldn't know Chez was town.
Since Chezinu is mafia, the argument can be turned around; why would KSC defend Chezinu D1.
I'm gonna check that.

OK I found the posts in question:
On August 21 2015 06:27 KelsierSC wrote:
chez is town this lynch is abd

On August 21 2015 06:49 KelsierSC wrote:
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On August 21 2015 06:48 Chezinu wrote:
BOYCOTT THE ****ING GAME


please switch off this guy

geet gud

So KSC really pushed people to switch off Chezinu.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 15:29 GMT
#3167
Good post JJ. (=
So KSC red check didn't do a whole lot to LT being lynched.

Plus he could have rescinded his claim during the night when everyone was debating nuking Chez or FF; 'cause the main reason of FF being suspicious was having two different checks.

After FF flipped, he first tried to say he checked a dead player, before saying it was a fake claim.
An explanation for him saying "I checked a dead player" may be that he thought he could support Chezinu's claim of checking a dead player. Then he thought about it and realized it wasn't coherent with FF's claim.

I think KSC is mafia. I think we should nuke him.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 15:30 GMT
#3168
On August 29 2015 00:29 Chezinu wrote:
Rels, I'm curious how are you going to defend yourself after I flip? Do you really think I'm 3p? Cause I'm not. After I flip, they will come after you. MUAHAHHAHHAHA!!!!

You think I will talk to you ??? stupid
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 15:53 GMT
#3172
Leaving work and starting the weekend, so as always won't be super active during it.

TO ANYBODY NOT HERE SINCE I POSTED STUFF TODAY: read my Chezinu case and vote him. Then don't let Chez clutter the thread and try to ignore his stuff.

Please ignore the big OWS case, it was debunked by OWS and JJ.

The main point today is deciding who to nuke. At the moment I think it should be KSC, I think he's mafia. If you want to know why; read the last few pages!

Only alternative would be geript atm for me, because of:
- general uselessness the whole game
- lying during D3 about the scooby doo ghost QT
- wanting to lynch Damdred at the beginning of D4 even though he knew his role
- only having a green check during N2 by FF, when a framer was still alive; no protection claimed anymore

But it is a big maaaaaaaaaybe, I would prefer a KSC nuke a lot more right now.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 15:55 GMT
#3173
On August 29 2015 00:52 Damdred wrote:
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On August 29 2015 00:06 Rels wrote:
On August 29 2015 00:02 Damdred wrote:
I explained my role to geript yes.
I don't win even if I die, I win if I survive or if fid survives since I got my upgrade.

OK I feel dumb for not understanding that =X

On August 29 2015 00:02 Damdred wrote:
Geript being retarded doesn't make him mafia, it just makes it possible for him to be a godfather but ff did check geript so he still has sa green check to fall back on.

Just a framer would do. Remember N2 tube the framer still lived, so FF check could have been framed. We only have one check on geript now.
Plus, I find weird that he put suspicions on you immediately after EON3; you say he's lying; then he rescind his accusation; and you let it go.
Does geript being retarded really not making him mafia ? (I want meta!)


Him being green checked by confirmed cop FF makes him so, THOUGH to be fair FF did reveal his role pretty earlish I believe so scum team could know Kel is lying which is why hes still alive and when they saw where FF vote fell they framed geript.

Did FF claimed his role before EON2 ? If yes, the green check on geript has 0 value. Can't remember and I have to go )=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 15:58 GMT
#3174
On August 29 2015 00:55 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 00:52 Damdred wrote:
On August 29 2015 00:06 Rels wrote:
On August 29 2015 00:02 Damdred wrote:
I explained my role to geript yes.
I don't win even if I die, I win if I survive or if fid survives since I got my upgrade.

OK I feel dumb for not understanding that =X

On August 29 2015 00:02 Damdred wrote:
Geript being retarded doesn't make him mafia, it just makes it possible for him to be a godfather but ff did check geript so he still has sa green check to fall back on.

Just a framer would do. Remember N2 tube the framer still lived, so FF check could have been framed. We only have one check on geript now.
Plus, I find weird that he put suspicions on you immediately after EON3; you say he's lying; then he rescind his accusation; and you let it go.
Does geript being retarded really not making him mafia ? (I want meta!)


Him being green checked by confirmed cop FF makes him so, THOUGH to be fair FF did reveal his role pretty earlish I believe so scum team could know Kel is lying which is why hes still alive and when they saw where FF vote fell they framed geript.

Did FF claimed his role before EON2 ? If yes, the green check on geript has 0 value. Can't remember and I have to go )=

Can someone check that ? If not I will do it when I find time. FF green check having 0 value would make me hesitate a lot more between KSC and geript.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 16:44 GMT
#3176
Another thought I had on the subway: geript Scooby doo qt was just a justification of him voting ksc. Now we know its fake, why did geript still voted ksc ? He may have tried to deflect the lynch from lt ? In fact he didn't vote lt
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 18:10 GMT
#3189
On August 29 2015 02:12 geript wrote:
There was more than scooby doo qt for why I voted KSC

can you explain then
'cause I'm noticing you're not voting for 100% mafia Chezinu
I actually agree to nuke KSC, but the nuke has 50% chance to be fake, so please let's kill Chez
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 18:13 GMT
#3190
On August 29 2015 02:52 Tictock wrote:
Sorry I haven't been around, been a weird past few days.

So I'm actually somewhat serious about wanting to lynch Obi. Rels is pointing out how posts Obi made while heming and hawing last night while still failing to launch his nuke.

It's actually worse than that, Obi had that nuke all cycle guys and only manages to decide what to do with it after JJ launches a nuke at FF and after deadline.

Tbh though I'm not sure that means he did it to protect Chez. If Chez is town (or not-mafia at least) then mafia want him as a mislynch.

I'd also like to point out it is 100% confirmed that Chez and Obi are not on the same team. Obi launched his nuke (too late, but he posted it in thread) and then Chez anti-nukes it (even though it turns out he didn't need to). If Obi had know Chez had the anti-nuke and they are on the same team then Obi either fires at Chez (much earlier) and it gets anti nuked, so Obi can go "I tried" or Obi fires at FF.

I think it was Bre who pointed out that mafia might want non-mafia!Chez to stay alive so that he could be a mislynch, which is something the last 2 mafia desperately need right now.

Idk I could easily swing either way on Obi, but to me him not being able to decide a nuke target in 72 hours means he's worried about how he will look from the resultant flip which suggests he knows he's not going to nuke mafia.

There is nothing in this post saying OWS is mafia except one thing: OWS didn't nuke Chezinu before nuke deadline yesterday.
Since then, he explained that he thought "1 hour before deadline" meant that nuke deadline was the same as silent deadline.
JJ confirmed the PM received with the nuke wasn't clear.

So the argument "OWS didn't nuke Chezinu before nuke deadline yesterday" doesn't mean OWS is mafia.

Have you read my Chezinu case ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 18:30 GMT
#3192
On August 29 2015 03:23 Tictock wrote:
My point is that Obi had 72 hours with that Nuke Rels, regardless of him being unclear about the deadline, why did he wait till that point to launch it? Especially since he knew he would be at work around that time.

Town!Obi has one thing to think about last night, who to nuke.

Mafia!Obi is trying to figure out a NK as well as who to nuke, and the nuke is more complicated because he kinda doesn't want to get rid of another mislynch.

So the excuses of, "I was at work" or "Deadline was unclear" are bullshit from a town perspective as you simply decide on a target before work well before any deadline.

He didn't launch him the first 48 hours because we decided to wait for the day to end before doing something. Remember Chezinu was getting nuked as well during D3.
But it makes sense to me that he waited the last moment to be sure to do the right choice. He finally nuked Chezinu at the end.
What would be fishy is if we could prove he nuked him too late by mistake. But with JJ's claim that the PM wasn't clear, I don't believe it's the case. Plus, this response was townie I feel:
On August 28 2015 23:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 28 2015 23:17 Rels wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 17:34 Rels wrote:
Now, about ObiWanShinobi.

I'm sure every town is the game has this guy as possible mafia, by virtue of the rayn town circle + POE. But now that I'm sure Chezinu is mafia, I'm pretty sure OWS is mafia as well.

Why ? Look at what Onegu posted just before the D4 post:
On August 28 2015 06:26 Onegu wrote:
The nuke on Chezinu was lanched after the nuke deadline. PMs with the nukes were told you had to launch 1 hour before deadline. The nuke will be refunded.

So every owner of a nuke given by Breshke or Yamato were told they had to fire the nuke at most 1 hour before deadline. Look at what JJ did:
On August 28 2015 04:56 JudgeJudy wrote:
lol I was hoping to see which one obi would go with, but I'm not sure how much longer I'll be around this afternoon. Go ahead and send yours at chez, maybe we can end the game tonight.

Moma has been holding on to a present! ^_^

##Nuke: Fecalfeast

He waited until 4 minutes before the nuke deadline to see what OWS would do; then he fired his nuke, so the nuke would work.

Now look at what OWS did:
On August 28 2015 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
K well since my boss is a fucking asshole and won't let me take a lunch break I guess I'm probably just going to yolo kill chez and hope for the best.

1 minute AFTER the nuke deadline, he tried to fire his nuke while EXPLAINING WHY HE DID IT SO LATE. So of course the nuke didn't work.

And it's not like he didn't have time to think about it! The whole thread only talked about nuke targets N3. OWS came back to the thread 6 HOURS BEFORE NUKE DEADLINE and posted SEVENTEEN POSTS until his nuke ONE MINUTE AFTER DEADLINE. All of these 17 posts says he's not sure about who to lynch.
But he was NOT LOOKING FOR CLUES ABOUT NUKING SOMEONE. He was just posting he's not sure. Here is town Breshke remarking it (second to last post ... RIP):
On August 28 2015 00:54 Breshke wrote:
Tbh I don't like how obi said he is reading stuff to make his decision but isn't showing any evidence of it in the thread. Like normally I feel like people have at least one or two quotes they want clarifying

Think he said he was phone posting so it could be hard for him to do so but kind of makes me think he is mafia


And here are the SEVENTEEN POSTS I talked about:
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On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:
fidei I'll let you do your thing.

@OWS when you come back

1 - OK to nuke Chez ?

2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817

3 - What do you think of that ?
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On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
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On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.

OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".

OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.




I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff.
Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo.

On August 27 2015 22:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 27 2015 22:49 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:
fidei I'll let you do your thing.

@OWS when you come back

1 - OK to nuke Chez ?

2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817

3 - What do you think of that ?
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On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
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On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.

OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".

OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.




I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff.
Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo.


Everybody wants to nuke the chez!

The town
The mafia
The brown?


I gathered.
Who should I nuke in your place? Forgive me if I missed it but I can't parse the thread via phone too well.

On August 27 2015 23:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 27 2015 22:54 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:49 Chezinu wrote:
On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:
fidei I'll let you do your thing.

@OWS when you come back

1 - OK to nuke Chez ?

2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817

3 - What do you think of that ?
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On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
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On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter.

OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game".

OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory.




I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff.
Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo.


Everybody wants to nuke the chez!

The town
The mafia
The brown?


I gathered.
Who should I nuke in your place? Forgive me if I missed it but I can't parse the thread via phone too well.


FF, I think that should clear me.


Remind me why that is and why exactly I should do that?

On August 27 2015 23:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Doesn't role blocker return "no result" or how exactly does that happen?

On August 27 2015 23:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
@jj: he had two checks in one night? Where did he claim that? I can't look for myself.

Ff is 100% the best nuke in the case of conflicting role claims.

On August 28 2015 00:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 27 2015 23:59 Breshke wrote:
Tictock FF could very well be mafia yes. There is a lot of discrepancies which does not look good for him. People can make bad checks like obviously checking geript there wasn't optimal because we already had two checks on him basically. I will also agree that on the other side of the same coin mafia can make sub optimal plays and bad claims and that could very well be what FF has done.

The fact of the mater is FF is going to get a check on KSC so weather you think FF is mafia or not i think it is optimal to let him liveto give us this information on KSC because if he says KSC is green as i have explained it basically confirms him.

Also do you not think it is weird that chez hasn't claimed what his role actually does? (has he?) Half the game is calling for him to get nuked you think he would try leverage it with his power.



Yeah that's not really how information works.

On August 28 2015 00:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
mmm
I feel like I could make a solid choice nuking either or chez/ff but that doesn't really make it easier.

On August 28 2015 00:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 28 2015 00:32 Rels wrote:
Best part is your nuke could be fake ><


Yeah I'm gonna be kind of sad if it's fake.

On August 28 2015 01:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Shock and surprise nobody trusts me.
W/e.

On August 28 2015 01:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah I fucking get it.

On August 28 2015 01:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I kind of feel like chez would probably be the best nuke here, considering having him alive is going to shut discussion down for another day.

The thing is: can the same be said about ff?

On August 28 2015 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred could easily be on the lynch table tomorrow, nuking him seems like a bit of a waste at this juncture.

On August 28 2015 02:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 28 2015 01:49 Fidei86 wrote:
On August 28 2015 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred could easily be on the lynch table tomorrow, nuking him seems like a bit of a waste at this juncture.

Explain to me why town would lynch Damdred?


Ask the people that want to nuke him.

On August 28 2015 02:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 28 2015 02:02 geript wrote:
TBH, nuking him makes far more sense than lynching him. But it is kinda a waste if he has an antinuke.


Yeah.

On August 28 2015 02:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred would claim anti nukes regardless of whether or not he actually had them in this position though.

Chez is probably still the best nuke.

On August 28 2015 02:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
The bit I found towny about chez was his fight with rels.
That's the thing that's stopping me from nuking him atm.

On August 28 2015 03:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On August 28 2015 03:38 Damdred wrote:
Lets be honest here, you are debating nukeing a third party who has helped town with shenanigans onto god father rayn.

Lynches Lt which has 0 town cred.

And ny death puts you closer to lylo.

Though if you are going to nuke me ows ho on and do it so I can give out as much info as I can so it doesn't get surprise here's a nuke.


I'm not going to nuke you.
I'm torn between chez and ff.

Hopefully I can reread something when I'm on lunch break.

On August 28 2015 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
K well since my boss is a fucking asshole and won't let me take a lunch break I guess I'm probably just going to yolo kill chez and hope for the best.




OK! So why did he do this ? Here is what I believe happened:
- OWS and Chezinu mafia together, maybe the last ones
- OWS delayed the time to make a decision during several hours
- Just after the nuke deadline passed, OWS finally posted he would nuke Chezinu
- But of course the nuke didn't work

And here is why he did it
He nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline so he would not kill his partner.
But he nuked Chezinu so he would gain town cred after Chez flipped.
He also nuked after the deadline so he still kept the nuke to use on anyone else in case Chezinu flipped; after all, supposing there are 5 mafias, he would be the last alive; nuking anyone would be good for him.

TLDR
OWS purposefully nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline. He did it so Chezinu lived another day; for the towncred if Chezinu flipped; and to keep the nuke for another person later.


Except it was unclear whether or not the nuke actually had to be fired 1 hour after deadline.
Even then, this analysis doesn't really say anything other than "Obi didn't nuke chez, so he's mafia." There could be any variation of town/mafia in your proposed analysis but it's inconclusive regardless.

So you didn't receive a PM saying the nuke had to be fired 1 hour before deadline ? Or was it not clear ?


Yes and no. It was unclear.
I thought the 1 hour before deadline bit was in regards to the actual deadline rather than the silent deadline. If it worked for tubesock, why wouldn't it work for me?
/shrug

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 18:51 GMT
#3197
Waiting to see if true
Funny chez is not attacking ritoky who counter claimed him
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 18:54 GMT
#3199
On August 29 2015 03:52 geript wrote:
I forget who it was, but someone said something about KSC not bothering to come clean re: his check which directly lead to FF getting lynched but is happy to come clean now.

That's really odd behavior for town.

It was me and I agree ksc is a good kill
Chez is confirmed mafia though
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 18:58 GMT
#3201
On August 29 2015 03:55 geript wrote:
No he is not.

Yes he is. Doesn't make sense for him to lie about his check on yamato if 3p.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 19:15 GMT
#3205
On August 29 2015 04:12 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 03:52 geript wrote:
I forget who it was, but someone said something about KSC not bothering to come clean re: his check which directly lead to FF getting lynched but is happy to come clean now.

That's really odd behavior for town.


This is a good point.

Also it's really weird that he was claiming to have investigative powers for 2 days but was not NK'd.

So either KSC is mafia or somehow Mafia knew he was lying about his role from the get go.

What you just said is either KSC or geript is mafia. Which I think I agree.
KSC claimed to have checked geript D1.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 19:16 GMT
#3208
Outside of the game: Chezinu you are really super funny =D
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 19:17 GMT
#3210
I checked N2: FF didn't claim but softed super hard his ability had something to do with his vote. He hard claimed D3.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 19:20 GMT
#3213
On August 29 2015 04:16 Tictock wrote:
Ehh, I'm willing to believe FF's check on geript at this point.

geript was a good frame target, with how he acted (I think I attacked him during D2 quite a bit)
+ FF softed his role had something to do with his vote
I agree I would kill KSC before geript. If KSC flips town though I think geript is mafia
they could also be only 4 mafias maybe ? And game ends today either way
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 19:22 GMT
#3214
On August 29 2015 04:18 Tictock wrote:
Also did JJ ever say if this was real or not?
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On August 25 2015 22:42 JudgeJudy wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT

I just alignment checked geript and he is town.


Image hidden for sake of the thread.

It was D3 right ? Same night as FF check ? If yes it doesn't matter we have 1 check or 2
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 19:32 GMT
#3220
On August 29 2015 04:30 geript wrote:
Rels I'm not even joking. If you call me mafia one more fucking time we'll just lynch you.

Then I will repeat: if there are 5 mafias, I think KSC is the last one. If not, I think it's you.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 19:40 GMT
#3223
fidei, one thing, and I let you talk about what you want.

Chezinu is 100% mafia, can you vote him ?

I let you continue the discussion about potential partners.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 28 2015 19:49 GMT
#3228
On August 29 2015 04:45 geript wrote:
Also people need to unvote chez immediately. Kels has something w/ his role maybe ends day early if a majority of something and I don't trust him.

Wow geript. I'm starting to be sure you're the last mafia. I made a whole case on Chez that you didn't even commented on. I told directly to you the biggest point, the dead check lie, and you still don't comment on it.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 19:50 GMT
#3229
On August 29 2015 04:46 geript wrote:
Also everyone needs to claim what their roles does and what actions they've taken

I won't claim.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 19:51 GMT
#3230
Rels (5): Chezinu, geript, raynpelikoneet, Lord Tolkien, Tubesock

OK maybe this is true after all. I was thinking it was too easy.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 19:52 GMT
#3231
geript why did you push Damdred at the beginning of day 4 ? And why did you rescind your accusation ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 28 2015 20:02 GMT
#3235
On August 29 2015 04:55 Tictock wrote:
My role is to be a ponce, and think I'm a lot better than I actually am.

+ Show Spoiler +
Zing!


I also missed my upgrade kus it required me to be good at this game.

So I have nothing special going on.

Also I'm rather upset I have not gotten any nukes...

You have *no* basic abilities at all ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 20:06 GMT
#3238
On August 29 2015 04:52 Rels wrote:
geript why did you push Damdred at the beginning of day 4 ? And why did you rescind your accusation ?

Quick please I'm going out very soon
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 28 2015 20:09 GMT
#3242
On August 29 2015 05:08 JudgeJudy wrote:
[image loading]

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 04:20 Rels wrote:
On August 29 2015 04:16 Tictock wrote:
Ehh, I'm willing to believe FF's check on geript at this point.

geript was a good frame target, with how he acted (I think I attacked him during D2 quite a bit)
+ FF softed his role had something to do with his vote
I agree I would kill KSC before geript. If KSC flips town though I think geript is mafia
they could also be only 4 mafias maybe ? And game ends today either way


I was under the impression that a "Mafia Framer" makes a town player show up as red, while a "Mafia Cover" ability makes a mafia player show up as green. Can a Mafia Framer even be used that way to make a mafia player show up as town?


I thought you were a smurf ? Yeah in this forum all the framers I saw had both abilities.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 20:15 GMT
#3248
OK I have to go super soon so I will detail what I find weird about geript.

He was wrong all game.
He was angry D2 when everyone started to play seriously.
D3 he faked a scooby doo QT with a mafia team pretending to be HTS. He said it was for funnsies; but he tried to push KSC when the rest of town was pushing LT.
D3 his only reason to push KSC over LT was the QT and the fact that the two people KSC voted died.
Never commented on Chez D4.
Start of D4 he wanted to kill ritoky:
On August 28 2015 07:59 geript wrote:
Of the claimed roles, ritoky is the most likely mafia. It's pretty rare that a mafia team doesn't have a rb.

And Damdred:
On August 28 2015 07:20 geript wrote:
I think I want to kill Damdred. Idk. But that's my feels

And now he seems to have forgotten both attacks to focus on KSC.

He claimed he didn't know what Damdred's role was:
On August 28 2015 07:59 geript wrote:
But idk what Damdred's role does supposedly so....

And that was a lie:
On August 28 2015 08:29 geript wrote:
So looking back. Damdred wins if Damdred is dead and fido alive. Idk. Meh.


I think geript is mafia and we should nuke him.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 28 2015 20:20 GMT
#3252
And for fidei and TT who are still not voting Chez:

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 28 2015 17:01 Rels wrote:
OK folks. Come here, sit by the fire! It's cold out there, isn't it ? Are you well now ? Then, let me tell you about the story of today.

We're lynching Chezinu.

We can talk about other things. I will be ignoring Chezinu 'cause talking to him each time has cluttered up the thread for nothing. Unless he says false things ofc.

Why are we lynching Chezinu ? Two mains reasons shows he's mafia, and a bunch of small ones shows he's not town.

1. The nuke theory: LT fake nuked Chezinu D2 to gain town cred when Chez flipped
Go read it, it's there:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817

2. Chezinu claimed he got a check on a dead player; FF claimed he didn't get a check on a dead player; FF was town
That's it. Chezinu claimed to get a 3P check on dead yamato. But please remember the context to know WHY Chezinu claimed that:
Chezinu counterclaimed FF "no result" claim on Lord Tolkien. He tried to deflect the lynch from LT to FF.
That's a play only a mafia (not even a town-enemy 3P) would do.

3. Bunch of small reasons that shows he's not town
- Chezinu claimed not-town EOD3
- Chezinu's check was counter claimed by ritoky's roleblock claim
- Chezinu had Lord Tolkien as green in his "I'm serious now" list post; when asked about it, he said it was to fool the mafia and he actually thought LT was green
- Chezinu *knew* FF was lying from his point of view, but never pushed him hard. Instead, he pushed me hard back when I attacked him. This shows he's not interested by solving the game
- Chezinu *knows* ritoky is lying from his point of view, but doesn't push him hard. Instead, he pushes me hard back when I attack him. This shows he's not interested by solving the game
- His wincon "I don't know my wincon" doesn't make sense
- His upgrade check doesn't make sense with his wincon; why a check would be useful with a wincon like that
- He faked wanting LT to be modkilled EOD3

Conclusion
All of the small reasons makes Chezinu not-town. The two main ones makes him mafia.
So please: LYNCH HIM AND IGNORE HIM. Let's talk about something else while he finally dies.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 20:24 GMT
#3255
geript still not commenting on Chez being mafia. But he things I'm town. If I'm town then I've been right two times already: rayn, LT. Not counting tube since I wasn't the main guy pushing him. So you should at least read the case, then vote accordingly.

Vote Chez and nuke geript is the best plan.

Alright see you all tomorrow (=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 28 2015 20:29 GMT
#3258
On August 29 2015 05:26 geript wrote:
The case is bad and you should feel bad for it.

So chez is town?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 28 2015 20:30 GMT
#3259
On August 29 2015 05:28 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:26 geript wrote:
The case is bad and you should feel bad for it.


do you know all of the people who have "green checked" you this game? and if any of them still are true? i forgot, but i remember there being a lot.

damdred said something he did to you made you conf town, but has since rescinded
ksc claimed a green on you? since rescinded.

Ff checked geript green n2. The night tube (framer) flipped through.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 28 2015 20:30 GMT
#3260
On August 29 2015 05:30 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:28 ritoky wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:26 geript wrote:
The case is bad and you should feel bad for it.


do you know all of the people who have "green checked" you this game? and if any of them still are true? i forgot, but i remember there being a lot.

damdred said something he did to you made you conf town, but has since rescinded
ksc claimed a green on you? since rescinded.

Ff checked geript green n2. The night tube (framer) flipped through.

There is nothing else.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 20:35 GMT
#3262
Wait a minute.
Geript said he didn't vote ksc d3 only because of the Scooby doo qt.

On August 29 2015 02:12 geript wrote:
There was more than scooby doo qt for why I voted KSC


I asked him to expand.
On August 29 2015 03:10 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 02:12 geript wrote:
There was more than scooby doo qt for why I voted KSC

can you explain then

And geript explained why he voted him today! He didn't explain he voted ksc d3 like I asked
On August 29 2015 03:52 geript wrote:
I forget who it was, but someone said something about KSC not bothering to come clean re: his check which directly lead to FF getting lynched but is happy to come clean now.

That's really odd behavior for town.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 28 2015 20:37 GMT
#3263
Geript you still haven't answered my question.

Why is my case shit ?
Why did you say you didn't know damdred role when in fact you did ?
Why did you vote ksc d3 since the Scooby doo qt was fake ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 20:38 GMT
#3265
On August 29 2015 05:29 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:26 geript wrote:
The case is bad and you should feel bad for it.

So chez is town?

This one too.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 28 2015 20:39 GMT
#3266
On August 29 2015 05:38 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:35 Rels wrote:
Wait a minute.
Geript said he didn't vote ksc d3 only because of the Scooby doo qt.

On August 29 2015 02:12 geript wrote:
There was more than scooby doo qt for why I voted KSC


I asked him to expand.
On August 29 2015 03:10 Rels wrote:
On August 29 2015 02:12 geript wrote:
There was more than scooby doo qt for why I voted KSC

can you explain then

And geript explained why he voted him today! He didn't explain he voted ksc d3 like I asked
On August 29 2015 03:52 geript wrote:
I forget who it was, but someone said something about KSC not bothering to come clean re: his check which directly lead to FF getting lynched but is happy to come clean now.

That's really odd behavior for town.


Listen you little fuckwit. If you would like to read my filter and figure it out, then please do so. Otherwise, I literally will fucking get everyone to lynch you for being the fuckwit you are. I'm town. Get the fuck over it. Damdred's not town; he can say whatever the fuck he wants because his wincon is 100% different from mine. But pull your iddy biddy head out of your gaping asshole or get you will get rekt'd.

Fuck you. Not talking to you anymore. Ows nuke that guy
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 28 2015 20:41 GMT
#3268
On August 29 2015 05:39 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:37 Rels wrote:
Geript you still haven't answered my question.

Why is my case shit ?
Why did you say you didn't know damdred role when in fact you did ?
Why did you vote ksc d3 since the Scooby doo qt was fake ?

1. Because your mouth doubles as your asshole.
2. role=/=wincon; even then, I can't be sure what his wincon is
3. read filter

So you're defending chez without calling him town. Without attacking the argument. Ad hom attack. Pretty good mafia tactic
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 20:42 GMT
#3269
Happy to see you like that I can go happy knowing you're mafia soft defending confirmed mafia chez. I know you can be abrasive as town; but you are also super logical. No way you would dismiss my arguments without talking about them
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 20:43 GMT
#3270
Good try deflecting by the way
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 28 2015 20:45 GMT
#3272
Alright I really have to go.

Geript: if you're town, I need you to read chezinu filter and give me your read on him. Then I need you to calm down and read my arguments. If you're town you'll see why chez is mafia.

If you're not town continue that deflecting off chezinu.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 20:47 GMT
#3273
Seriously geript: last try. If your next post is not you admitting chez is mafia (or could be if prefer) then you're confirmed mafia too.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 28 2015 20:53 GMT
#3275
On August 29 2015 05:51 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:47 Rels wrote:
Seriously geript: last try. If your next post is not you admitting chez is mafia (or could be if prefer) then you're confirmed mafia too.


no.....just no. like i think chez is slam dunk mafia, but this post is absurd.

He didn't give a read on chez the whole day. When chez is the main wagon. Only thing he said was a ad hom attack.
I want him to give a read on chez. And it's not possible for anyone to say chez is town.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 20:54 GMT
#3276
But you're right, its maybe too late. He already refused to give a chez read and try deflecting his lynch. He s probably mafia
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 28 2015 21:01 GMT
#3279
On August 29 2015 05:57 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:54 Rels wrote:
But you're right, its maybe too late. He already refused to give a chez read and try deflecting his lynch. He s probably mafia


no you're just raging cuz he insulted you and dropping ultimatums and universals that make no sense out of tired fury. geript insults everyone when he feels he has been tremendously town and they call him mafia so it's w/e.

OK for now. But him not talking about chez at all even before the rage when I have a big case on him is mafia. He also tried to deflect the lynch really hard
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 21:50 GMT
#3288
On August 29 2015 06:28 geript wrote:
Here's the thing. I kinda think chez is town. I've been wrong on him a bunch. But there are people like KSC and Damdred who are getting blatantly ignored. Like that's pretty odd for 2 mafia left. Sure maybe it's just 1 mafia and one anti-town 3P or something, but it's reasonably odd for chez to be around martyring while KSC is mia and KSC gets 100% ignored by most.

Like when you look back, KSC's done exceptionally anti-town shit with his fake claim and late rescind. Like there's literally zero reason as town to hold onto that shit for that long. Even if you disagree with my scooby doo qt shit, it served a purpose to focus the lynch where I wanted it. Hell. I could have dragged it out to get Damdred lynched if I really wanted that because LT's flip gave me enough room to play it off at least a bit. But that's not what I did. I tried to use fake shit to help push who I was pushing. Not as a sole point against them. KSC, used his shit exceptionally differently.

That's why KSC should die today. He's the largest obvious scum motivated player left around.

OK OK. Agree that ksc needs to die.
Chezinu is confirmed mafia though. I'm sorry you can't see it but he is. He wouldn't have lied about yamato check to deflect off lt lynch if he wasn't.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 28 2015 21:51 GMT
#3289
On August 29 2015 06:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Not really feeling a geript nuke.
Maybe I go with ksc instead.

++
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 07:15 GMT
#3358
Pretty cool claim (= so ritoky is 99% mafia
I would prefer lynching Chezinu since I'm 100% sure he's mafia, but would follow a ritoky's lynch
Whatever happens though, we're killing Chez, lynch or nuke
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 07:21 GMT
#3359
Like ritoky is not confirmed mafia in my mind 'cause:
HTS could have been killed by rayn (unwatchable) and ritoky was just rb'ing her
He wanted to kill mafias most of the game
He didn't sheep the vote on me even though he suspected me D2

And the main thing for me:
ritoky plays a lot with having the best odds. Him being mafia means he nuked Chezinu so Chez would antinuke directly after. But doing that, they wasted a nuke and a antinuke; I don't think ritoky as mafia would have made that play
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 29 2015 07:34 GMT
#3361
On August 29 2015 16:32 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 16:21 Rels wrote:
Like ritoky is not confirmed mafia in my mind 'cause:
HTS could have been killed by rayn (unwatchable) and ritoky was just rb'ing her
He wanted to kill mafias most of the game
He didn't sheep the vote on me even though he suspected me D2

And the main thing for me:
ritoky plays a lot with having the best odds. Him being mafia means he nuked Chezinu so Chez would antinuke directly after. But doing that, they wasted a nuke and a antinuke; I don't think ritoky as mafia would have made that play


If rit flips mafia it somewhat confirms chez as not mafia though.

Yeah but that's the thing. Chezinu is mafia.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 07:42 GMT
#3363
On August 29 2015 16:38 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 16:34 Rels wrote:
On August 29 2015 16:32 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2015 16:21 Rels wrote:
Like ritoky is not confirmed mafia in my mind 'cause:
HTS could have been killed by rayn (unwatchable) and ritoky was just rb'ing her
He wanted to kill mafias most of the game
He didn't sheep the vote on me even though he suspected me D2

And the main thing for me:
ritoky plays a lot with having the best odds. Him being mafia means he nuked Chezinu so Chez would antinuke directly after. But doing that, they wasted a nuke and a antinuke; I don't think ritoky as mafia would have made that play


If rit flips mafia it somewhat confirms chez as not mafia though.

Yeah but that's the thing. Chezinu is mafia.


You being wrong about Chez is just as likely as me being wrong about him

[image loading]

One thing I learned playing mafia is behavious > mechanics.
Chezinu attitude makes him 100% mafia.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 08:48 GMT
#3364
OK people. Chezinu is mafia.
Does it make sense ritoky is mafia with him ? That would mean the mafia team wasted a nuke and an anti nuke.
That's maybe possible, but to me it's weird. I think KSC is still the best nuke.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 09:00 GMT
#3365
is there someone in the town circle + OWS + geript that cannot there at EOD ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 29 2015 09:12 GMT
#3366
If KSC hadn't played the way he did ritoky would be the best nuke. But KSC's behavious is more scummy than ritoky.
Remember this:
On August 28 2015 22:46 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 22:35 JudgeJudy wrote:
What do you think about KSC, Rels? Now that FF has flipped town, do you buy the claim that KSC was fake claiming cop as town?

We need to kill him before LYLO.
I had no scumread nor townread of him until this morning. The guy made sure he was unreadable.
Now, the FF flip this morning confirmed he was lying about the check. The moment that happened, he did this:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 08:14 KelsierSC wrote:
i checked a dead man


Then 20 minutes later he actually rescinded his cop claim:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 08:32 KelsierSC wrote:
soap

here's the thing, i don't actually have a way of checking people

i'm a town vigi, i shot geript n1 for the lolz,

he didnt die so i assumed he was a vet and called him town
then i took a punt on LT being mafia next night

but for my town defence, i got people to vote rayn
and LT
so im town

i just havent really played properly


So several things are super weird:
1 - he fakeclaimed for the entire game
2 - he made sure he was unreadable for the entire game
3 - we don't know if KSC would have rescinded his claim without FF flipping
4 - before he rescinded, he posted he checked a dead man; maybe he tried to cover his fakeclaim by claiming the dead check, before realising it's not coherent, then he claimed vig
5 - he didn't post much this game but is over defensive the moment someone talks about him being scummy. KSC stating he was the main force behind rayn and LT's lynches is LOL worthy

We need to lynch him sooner or later. Not over 100% mafia Chezinu, but maybe tomorrow.


Plus: the mafia team had a unwatchable godfather. N1 they killed HTS + WOS. There is 50% chance the godfather was the one killing HTS. Maybe more 'cause HTS was more townread than WOS.
So ritoky visiting HTS doesn't confirm him mafia. I would be OK nuking him without KSC in the game, or lynching him without Chezinu in the game. But ritoky being mafia means the mafia team wasted one nuke and one anti nuke.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 09:22 GMT
#3367
BTW anyone not considering Chezinu as confirmed mafia is delusionnal. Reread his filter, especially D2 when it was the only time he tried to play seriously, to see that.

If you need it, you can reread the case on him:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 28 2015 17:01 Rels wrote:
OK folks. Come here, sit by the fire! It's cold out there, isn't it ? Are you well now ? Then, let me tell you about the story of today.

We're lynching Chezinu.

We can talk about other things. I will be ignoring Chezinu 'cause talking to him each time has cluttered up the thread for nothing. Unless he says false things ofc.

Why are we lynching Chezinu ? Two mains reasons shows he's mafia, and a bunch of small ones shows he's not town.

1. The nuke theory: LT fake nuked Chezinu D2 to gain town cred when Chez flipped
Go read it, it's there:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817

2. Chezinu claimed he got a check on a dead player; FF claimed he didn't get a check on a dead player; FF was town
That's it. Chezinu claimed to get a 3P check on dead yamato. But please remember the context to know WHY Chezinu claimed that:
Chezinu counterclaimed FF "no result" claim on Lord Tolkien. He tried to deflect the lynch from LT to FF.
That's a play only a mafia (not even a town-enemy 3P) would do.

3. Bunch of small reasons that shows he's not town
- Chezinu claimed not-town EOD3
- Chezinu's check was counter claimed by ritoky's roleblock claim
- Chezinu had Lord Tolkien as green in his "I'm serious now" list post; when asked about it, he said it was to fool the mafia and he actually thought LT was green
- Chezinu *knew* FF was lying from his point of view, but never pushed him hard. Instead, he pushed me hard back when I attacked him. This shows he's not interested by solving the game
- Chezinu *knows* ritoky is lying from his point of view, but doesn't push him hard. Instead, he pushes me hard back when I attack him. This shows he's not interested by solving the game
- His wincon "I don't know my wincon" doesn't make sense
- His upgrade check doesn't make sense with his wincon; why a check would be useful with a wincon like that
- He faked wanting LT to be modkilled EOD3

Conclusion
All of the small reasons makes Chezinu not-town. The two main ones makes him mafia.
So please: LYNCH HIM AND IGNORE HIM. Let's talk about something else while he finally dies.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 29 2015 09:24 GMT
#3368
We cannot lynch ritoky over confirmed mafia Chez when:
- there is a 50% (at least) chance the godfather killed HTS
- ritoky being mafia means the mafia team wasted a nuke and an anti nuke

Maybe we can nuke him, but I would prefer KSC a looot more.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 29 2015 09:24 GMT
#3369
But if anyone has a green check on KSC, I'm OK nuking ritoky
Rels
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August 29 2015 10:26 GMT
#3371
On August 29 2015 19:23 Fidei86 wrote:
Rels you're assuming that there were only 2KP n1. Could there not have been 3?

There could. Doesn't change the fact that tube could have been the one killing hts
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 29 2015 10:36 GMT
#3375
On August 29 2015 19:31 Fidei86 wrote:
I totally agree. I admitted straight up that my check does not confirm rit Mafia, it just gives him better odds than everyone else. I'm actually down with a Chez lynch and a KSC nuke - both of them have been atrocious. But if that doesn't round things off - we should be looking at rit.

The one thing keeping me back from nuking rit instead of KSC is the nuke situation.
If ritoky is mafia, the mafia team effectively wasted 1 nuke and 1 anti nuke.
That's 2 KP wasted right there. That's why I'm so sure ritoky is mafia. At least not over KSC.
If ritoky is mafia, he offered us 2 KP; we should only lynch him if we're sure KSC is town.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 10:38 GMT
#3376
On August 29 2015 19:36 Fidei86 wrote:
@Rels don't you think it's a bit weird that an experienced player like Chez would play SO BADLY? Like, nothing he has done has made sense from ANY perspective. He has drawn so much attention to himself, he's basically been up for lynch every single day. There couldn't be two jesters in the game, could there?

I think the way he played makes a lot of sense for the mafia plan. He was looking to be fake nuked by LT then lynched, so LT would carry the credit to the end game.
When LT was looking to be the lynch D2 was when he started playing seriously; but his reads didn't make any sense.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 10:38 GMT
#3377
When LT was looking to be the lynch D2; Chezinu started playing seriously; but his reads didn't make any sense.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 10:40 GMT
#3378
I'm not against the idea of ritoky being mafia. I just think KSC is much more likely. Chezinu is 100%.

My lynch list is
Chezinu
KSC
ritoky
geript
OWS
TT
JJ
fidei

With Damdred being lynched as soon as 5 mafias flipped and no game ending.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
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August 29 2015 10:50 GMT
#3380
On August 29 2015 19:47 Fidei86 wrote:
@Rels I think you're giving rit too much credit on the rayn lynch - off the top of my head I'm remembering that he said he was fine with lynching you, then AFKd.

Maybe. But he could have voted me. So that's not a strong indicator either way.

It's really the nuke situation that makes me doubt. Plus the fact that a unwatchable godfather is flipped of course; if that was not the case, ritoky would be mafia 100%.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 10:51 GMT
#3381
Why would the mafia team waste 1 KP 1 prot for almost nothing ? It's enough for me to nuke KSC over rit. We'll lynch ritoky if KSC is town.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 11:18 GMT
#3387
On August 29 2015 19:54 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 19:51 Rels wrote:
Why would the mafia team waste 1 KP 1 prot for almost nothing ? It's enough for me to nuke KSC over rit. We'll lynch ritoky if KSC is town.

Can you remind me of the sequence? LT fake nukes Chez, someone anti-nukes Chez?

??
No ritoky nuked Chezinu N2, and Chezinu anti nuked.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 11:20 GMT
#3389
On August 29 2015 20:20 Fidei86 wrote:
Didn't rit shoot Yamato n2, or at least claim to?

*goes back to the filters*

Yes
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 11:33 GMT
#3392
Read my case before doing so! Chez is 100% mafia
I'm going out (= see you in a while
Rels
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France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 12:16 GMT
#3396
Fidei. Trust me
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 13:26 GMT
#3400
Alright I ll claim before the nuke is launched on someone I don't like.

I'm a cop. My check:
N1 Damdred: 3p
N2 ritoky: green
N3 Chezinu: red

Now my N2 check could have been framed, tune was still alive during N2. But that's why I would prefer to nuke ksc instead of ritoky + ritoky wasting 1 nuke 1 anti nuke of he is mafia.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 15:19 GMT
#3422
On August 30 2015 00:03 Damdred wrote:
Honestly Rels can you answer why you think ritoky is 99% mafia but have a green check on him?

Cause I thought fidei s claim meant ritoky was mafia unless fidei was fake claiming.
Then I realized reading a fidei post that the godfather was unwatchable.
I don't like blindly believing green check, and tbh, if ksc isn't mafia, I think ritoky is mafia
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 15:24 GMT
#3424
OK if we have a tracker we can eliminate the possibility of someone being mafia tonight:
I check X
Watcher watches me
Tracker tracks X
Roleblock (that fidei claimed) + kp only takes care of two people so we would have a check on someone
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 15:25 GMT
#3427
On August 30 2015 00:23 Fidei86 wrote:
@Rels I just filter dove KSC and it's like 99% flame, 0.5% content and 0.5% dealing with his fake claim. I'm totally cool with lynching him, as there's no way we want him at Lylo. Like Chez, if he is actually town, he has not been playing to his wincon.

++
+ the fake claim, the I check a dead player, then rescinded
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 15:26 GMT
#3428
On August 30 2015 00:24 Fidei86 wrote:
Also, do we know whether each KP is delivered individually, or whether one Mafia can deliver all of them? If it's the latter, then I think that more or less confirms rit as town, since there's no way Mafia don't use the unwatchable/untrackable GF to deliver all the KP.

I suppose each kp has to be delivered by different people, but that's only a guess
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 15:31 GMT
#3433
On August 30 2015 00:28 Fidei86 wrote:
I think we should hold the nuke until after the Chez flip. We plainly have a bunch of blue powers left. If Chez is red, we'll have a ton of days left to keep using them. Taking a shot on KSC doesn't seem worth it since if he's town, we're only shortening the game.

Don't agree. More kills on suspicious people are better. Just have to nuke the scummiest guy

Plus having less targets means more chance to be right with abilities
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 15:32 GMT
#3434
On August 30 2015 00:28 Chezinu wrote:
So you guys want to know my role now?

No
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 15:52 GMT
#3447
Lol
Ikea shopping so come on geript, hit me when I'm down
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 16:10 GMT
#3468
On August 30 2015 01:08 Fidei86 wrote:
"Reps claim is 100% fake"
"Idk just a feeling"
/facepalm

Yeah. Geript is once again deflecting
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 16:19 GMT
#3481
On August 30 2015 01:12 geript wrote:
Look fido, I can't explain exactly why. But I can tell you that when I've seen cops try to get their redcheck lynched without claiming, they come across as different. There's more of a, "Fuck it. Red check. I'm too tired to keep on fighting this shit." There's also the aspect that I've seen a billion and a half fake checks at this point. And this feels more "worked" idk how to explain that. Like people seem to assume that they have to build up to a red check to make it feel real or something.

Stupid
You saying chezinu was kinda town yesterday
And this now
I really hope ksc is mafia and this is over now
I will ignore you until both of them are flipped, and deal with you if the game isn't over
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 17:29 GMT
#3493
OK so I want to discuss the nuke.

I think we absolutely should nuke today. We could end the game today; eliminate a suspect if not; and makbky, we have less targets to use abilities on tonight.

For nuke target I still think ksc is the best target. I had a post with reasons that I can't look for on phone; I will add to that something I said early in the day; a big reason ff was nuked was the two checks on lt being different. Ksc could have rescinded his claim n3 and save a cop.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 17:29 GMT
#3495
And we should never rely on modkill. Modkills are not part of the game
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 17:31 GMT
#3496
On August 30 2015 02:29 Rels wrote:
OK so I want to discuss the nuke.

I think we absolutely should nuke today. We could end the game today; eliminate a suspect if not; and makbky, we have less targets to use abilities on tonight.

For nuke target I still think ksc is the best target. I had a post with reasons that I can't look for on phone; I will add to that something I said early in the day; a big reason ff was nuked was the two checks on lt being different. Ksc could have rescinded his claim n3 and save a cop.

I will add that ff was voting ksc so he would have checked him. Ksc rescinding would have give ff a green check if he is really town.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 17:59 GMT
#3501
On August 30 2015 02:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 02:31 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2015 02:29 Rels wrote:
OK so I want to discuss the nuke.

I think we absolutely should nuke today. We could end the game today; eliminate a suspect if not; and makbky, we have less targets to use abilities on tonight.

For nuke target I still think ksc is the best target. I had a post with reasons that I can't look for on phone; I will add to that something I said early in the day; a big reason ff was nuked was the two checks on lt being different. Ksc could have rescinded his claim n3 and save a cop.

I will add that ff was voting ksc so he would have checked him. Ksc rescinding would have give ff a green check if he is really town.


What exactly are you saying here?

Ff was going to check ksc.
Ff got lynched because him and ksc had different check.
Ksc could have saved him so ff checks him.
Ksc not saying anything killed ff.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 18:00 GMT
#3502
On August 30 2015 02:56 JudgeJudy wrote:
[image loading]

Uhhh why would we nuke today instead of tonight when the is the possibility of chez having an anti-nuke? That seems like the most likely way things could go wrong. Am I missing something?

Don't think chez has two antis ? Maybe though
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 18:19 GMT
#3514
On August 30 2015 03:04 JudgeJudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 03:00 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2015 02:56 JudgeJudy wrote:
[image loading]

Uhhh why would we nuke today instead of tonight when the is the possibility of chez having an anti-nuke? That seems like the most likely way things could go wrong. Am I missing something?

Don't think chez has two antis ? Maybe though


[image loading]

Well how do we know that the first anti even counted considering the nuke was late?

Is there a great advantage of firing tonight considering we have a rb to work with?

Yeah the advantage is ritoky can rb someone; if someone is killed, it means that someone is not mafia (regardless of ritoky mafia or not). And I have less targets to check.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 18:20 GMT
#3515
I agree with the possible anti nuke though.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 18:26 GMT
#3517
Why are you talking to chez fidei, just ignore him
I mean I read him cause he's super funny but I don't care about what he says
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 18:33 GMT
#3521
I know I would nuke if I had it. But I'm OK not nuking.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 19:01 GMT
#3525
WAIT WAIT WAIT
BRESHKE NUKED CHEZINU D3
AND HE BEGGED FOR AN ANTI NUKE
HE EVEN POSTES ##ANTI NUKE AND IT DIDNT WORK

On August 25 2015 11:56 Breshke wrote:
Meh. I cant be bothered waiting for geripts answer or for obi to do this.

##Nuke:Chezinu

(im fairly sure it will actually work this time)

On August 25 2015 14:57 Onegu wrote:
Nuclear Launch Detected



[image loading]


A nuke is heading at Chezinu

On August 27 2015 04:53 Chezinu wrote:
##AntiNuke Chezinu

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 19:01 GMT
#3526
OK we have no reason to not nuke someone (KSC for me) since we know Chezinu doesn't have anti.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 19:02 GMT
#3527
Breshke's nuke was fake.
We know anti nuke works on fake nuke 'cause yamato antinuked LT's fake nuke on Chez D2.
So Chezinu typing ##AntiNuke Chezinu would destroy Breshke's fake nuke if he had an anti nuke.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 19:05 GMT
#3528
Let me repeat KSC's behaviour on N3.

He fakeclaimed a red check on LT, attacking the credibility of FF.
During N3 FF would check KSC.
During N3 FF was heavily considered to be a nuke target alongside Chezinu.
KSC would love for FF to check him if he's town! If FF says he's green KSC has a green check for him; if FF says he's red, FF is confirmed mafia once KSC is dead.
But KSC didn't rescind his claim until FF was dead.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 19:07 GMT
#3529
He could have rescinded his claim N3, which would mean two things:
- Chezinu (confirmed mafia) would be nuked 100%
- FF would get a check on KSC

Why didn't he do it as town ? No reason.

Why didn't he do it as mafia ?
- Chezinu had a chance to not be nuked
- FF had a chance to be nuked, so he wouldn't get a red check on KSC
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 19:08 GMT
#3530
Another thing: when KSC rescinded his claim start of D4, he started by saying he checked a dead person.
Why ? I think it's because he tried to back up Chezinu's story of checking dead yamato.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 19:08 GMT
#3531
Nuke KSC, end the game.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 19:11 GMT
#3534
OWS' nuke has 50% chance to be fake though.
Rels
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France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 19:19 GMT
#3540
On August 30 2015 04:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't really want to nuke anyone today.
I kind of wanted this to be dealt with last night so I didn't really have to think about chez anymore/listen to people talk about him.

I'm just going to reevaluate later.

Chez is a dead man, don't talk about him.
Ksc is probably mafia, you should nuke him
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 19:26 GMT
#3546
On August 30 2015 04:21 Fidei86 wrote:
There is no need to nuke today. You can nuke after the flip exactly the same.

Yeah but less targets to use abilities during the night if he's town.

We re going to nuke ksc anyway so lets eliminate him now
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 19:27 GMT
#3547
Ksc needs to die at some point anyway
Rels
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France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 19:33 GMT
#3549
On August 30 2015 04:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Then let him get modkilled.

Pretty sure its not going to happen
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 19:44 GMT
#3550
On August 30 2015 04:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I have never cared less about a game than I do right now.

?? why ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 19:53 GMT
#3552
On August 30 2015 04:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 04:21 Chezinu wrote:
OH AND DON"T LISTEN TO RELS IF HE SAYS I PLAYED POORLY! I really did tried. After being nuke/lynch for the 4/5th time, you kind of lose it.


I've been there. :/
I'm not even that sure on you but I have no idea how I'd get people off of you at this point.
/shrug

Sorry if wrong.

seriously

not talking about the red check, how can you believe he could be town
LT fake nuking him over 3 other possible targets, and him not responding to nuke
saying he got a check on dead yamato when FF affirmed he got no check on dead WOS
not pushing FF until N3
not pushing ritoky
putting LT in green in list post

seriously, I'm so glad I decided to check him, 'cause if people can't see he's mafia I don't know what to say
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 19:54 GMT
#3553
OK if you don't want to nuke I'll go do something else
I'll check from time to time
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 22:00 GMT
#3569
knew it (=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 22:02 GMT
#3573
did the fake nuke theory was fake )= I was super proud of it
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 22:05 GMT
#3575
OK so there may still be two mafias alive
Of course we'll see that when (if ... fucking 50%) KSC dies
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 29 2015 22:06 GMT
#3578
On August 30 2015 07:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
In hindsight I should have nuked him yesterday but I had some reservations.

I don't blame you, didn't think of it myself
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 30 2015 07:06 GMT
#3604
Wait wait wait WAIT
Chezinu was a TRAITOR
Which means he wasn't on the mafia team
Which means:
- NOONE should get credit for pushing him early or whatever
- For example, the fake LT nuke on Chez theory was fake (unless mafia team rolecop Chez)
- ritoky is scummier like yesterday, 'cause him nuking Chez doesn't mean shit if he's mafia, 'cause Chez wasn't mafia

And mainly:
- There is a chance there is still two mafias left, cause Chez wasn't mafia

I still think 100% KSC is mafia. But in case the game isn't over, something geript said at EOD bothered me. I'll check.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 30 2015 07:07 GMT
#3605
Sorry geript, I said I'll ignore you until KSC die, but I will post things in case *I* die. Ignore it until KSC flips.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 30 2015 07:13 GMT
#3606
On August 30 2015 05:24 geript wrote:
I'm going to laugh if the only day I've been on the right side of a wagon is on D1. But right now I'm kinda thinking about a team of like OWS + idk. I don't have any good reason to suspect OWS though. So it's probably just wanting to play safe b/c I dont have KP.

The thing that kinda bugs me is that fido claimed no visit to JJ n2.

OK that was this post.
During EOD either Chezinu or I was mafia. Nobody could think about another team right ? How could either Chez or I not be mafia, with me claiming a red check on him.
So I don't understand why he talks about a team of "OWS + idk".
Ok that is super weak actually, much weaker than I thought.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 30 2015 07:14 GMT
#3607
On August 30 2015 05:24 geript wrote:
The thing that kinda bugs me is that fido claimed no visit to JJ n2.

@geript Why ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 30 2015 10:16 GMT
#3616
On August 30 2015 16:33 Tictock wrote:
Ehh.

5 Mafia, 1 Traitor, 2 Neutral 3p, and 13 town sounds a little out of wack, but I suppose 6 mafia-aligned players in a themed game this size with nukes and such is plausible.

That's actually a pretty scary thought if KSC doesn't flip red.

There is 0 chance ksc is town.
So the only question is: is he the last mafia ?
If no, who is the last one ?
If yes and the game isn't over, damdred lied about his wincon.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 30 2015 10:17 GMT
#3617
On August 30 2015 19:12 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 14:54 ritoky wrote:
On August 30 2015 10:54 Fidei86 wrote:
On August 30 2015 09:31 ritoky wrote:
#confirmedlyfe

i will gladly await fidei's apology.

Ugh. Assuming anyone is or isn't confirmed until they flip or the game ends is dumb.

And why would I apologise for pushing you, when I saw you visit someone who got NK'd day 1 and nobody else, and when I think you've been scummy? Like, you may think I'm wrong (and I may in fact be wrong), but I don't owe you an apology.


i mean i nuked chez, i then did a gotcha post when he faked a check, and then got green checked. plus i have lynched 2 mafia and shot a 3p. you can't get much more confirmed than i am right now. i am like quadraconfirmed.

tbh you played mostly okay given your info and i understood it after you outted, i was just flipping you shit cuz i am on the right side of things. the only 2 errors i see are that you never seemed to reconsider anything when untrackable flipped and you also thought mafia didn't 100% send said person to make kills which is suboptimal play in 95% of cases by mafia if they don't.

regardless, there's a nuke headed toward ksc, probably roleblocking 1 of OWS or geript cuz my poe. also ticktock starting to rise up the list of eyebrow raising since dat falloff so real. but then again i might just default to RBing damdred cuz cult paranoia.

Can someone please let me know whether they think each KP is individually delivered or whether one Mafia can deliver all the KP? Because of its the latter then that obviously exonerates rit. But that seems unlikely to me because that would render a bunch of town roles totally pointless until we managed to find the godfather. In fact, given that we would only see other blues, they'd actually be Mafia favoured.

I'm like 99% sure one mafia can only deliver one kp. That how it worked in all the game I read and it makes sense to me.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 30 2015 10:26 GMT
#3618
On August 30 2015 18:58 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 18:04 geript wrote:
On August 30 2015 15:49 Tictock wrote:
It's true the last 2 Days have basically been a solo wagon so it's not like there's a ton of town cred for being on those lynches

Still, geript how does it feel to be on the wrong wagon every day?

meh. shit happens. Technically, I wasn't wrong every day and I was one of the few to try and lynch scum on D1, but eh.

Meh, the wagons were between a town and a traitor. And plenty of people weren't on the Ruxx wagon. Not sure how far this goes.

Also isn't watcher supposed to visit people likely to get NK'd??

Yes why ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 30 2015 10:28 GMT
#3620
On August 30 2015 19:26 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 19:14 Fidei86 wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:12 Tictock wrote:
How do you figure Jester is pro-mafia Fidei?

Because they are trying to get lynched, but lynching them don't take town any further forward. Basically town wastes a day on a total distraction, while Mafia march towards Lylo.


Like I get that you feel Yam played this way, but trying to say the role itself is mafia aligned is pretty silly.

anti-nuke, +Possible Masons & Vest

Eh, I suppose the role could be played out any way the person wants. Sounds really similar to the role Damdred has though, so it's funny you say it's clearly mafia aligned.

He s right though, jester are bad for the town. They re trying to be as scummy as possible to get lynched and to not get killed by mafia.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 30 2015 10:32 GMT
#3623
On August 30 2015 19:31 Fidei86 wrote:
@Rels I said that because geript seemed to be asking why I visited JJ N2

No he said it's weird nobody visited JJ D2.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 30 2015 18:45 GMT
#3643
Mm maybe ritoky is confirmed town.

Don't have the time to expand right now, will try to post something before deadline
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 30 2015 20:59 GMT
#3658
In case I die: my poe list is almost the same as before, with geript townier since he actually wasn't deflecting the lynch off chezinu (who wasn't mafia) and is trying to solve the game (or faking it).

My "maybe ritoky is confirmed town" post earlier is fake and is an attempt to survive: I think if ksc has a partner, ritoky is the most likely candidate.

Ksc is 100% mafia or not town.
RItoky is scummy due to:
- chez not being mafia; so if ritoky is mafia, he nuked a non mafia guy, so he actually didn't waste a nuke.
- he is the guy trying the less to solve the game outside of ksc and ows; but apparently it s more normal for ows. Seriously, he is never posting when things are clear and cut, except to defend himself; for example, he almost didn't talk tonight, when other people are trying to solve the game.
- finally, he visited Hts that died n1

So if ksc survives: lynch ksc. After that, assuming the game didn't end, I would lynch ritoky if the deadline was right now.

My lynch list:
KSC
ritoky
OWS
geript
TT
JJ
fidei

With damdred being lynched if 5 mafias flipped and no endgame.

I'm checking ritoky tonight to check if he was framed N2.
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