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Like someone could get the "Rsoultin" role if they are really unlucky | ||
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On August 10 2015 13:42 WaveofShadow wrote: Isn't the case that everyone gets strange/awesome flavour/power roles as either alignment similar to a greymist game? I think he means he hopes there is a "damdred" role that someone else will get | ||
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On August 18 2015 10:07 Onegu wrote: Flavor is finished. Formatting role PM's now. Then will RNG roles then send them out Hype I ment more because I'm retarded with time zones but your answer was sufficient Thanks for hosting | ||
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Becouse he seems to have the same fucking disdain for this shitty fucking game that I do Do you have any fucking reads from your rng discussion or are you just going to fill pages of filter with shit | ||
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(sum of each individual digit in the post id [ex: 1111 = 4]) / 21 [number of players alive in game] * coefficient of the thread's stupidity What is the coefficient of the threads stupidity? I assume it is high | ||
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On August 19 2015 08:40 Breshke wrote: What is the coefficient of the threads stupidity? I assume it is high This is obviously directed at ritoky | ||
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On August 19 2015 09:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'd imagine the game will revert to a normal mafia game soonish. Probably tomorrow, when the novelty of being someone else wears off. Just get drunk with me in the mean time | ||
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He says ritoky is town yet didn't even attempt to let him pressure fidel nut instead chose to fight him on the RNG lynch ##Vote ruxxar | ||
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On August 19 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote: Clearly what needs to happen this game is that we need to follow the most surefire way to lynch mafia and win games, and that is to follow the RNG lynch. Here's how it works: 1) you will all follow me because i am better than you. 2) i will choose who we lynch every phase via RNG, then we will lynch him without question. the RNG will be determined by this post (the one you're reading right now). each post is assigned a unique id on team liquid which cannot be manipulated because of the rate of posts on TL; this makes it the perfect candidate for determining people via RNG. then from that post id i will use the following formula to determine whom is the candidate for lynch: (sum of each individual digit in the post id [ex: 1111 = 4]) / 21 [number of players alive in game] * coefficient of the thread's stupidity this formula will provide a number from 1 to 21, we will lynch the player it determines without hesitation or questioning. no possible explanation or reasoning could convince me that RNG lynching is in any way sub-optimal play. please bow before the RNG and watch it carry us to victory. I don't think so given this explanation I at first thought this was really scummy because if he was town why the fuck does he make this bullshit crap reason up to explain his "RNG" and not just be like yeah i used random.org But it makes sense in a world where he is trying to be BH and trying to be idk the word long winded? and he couldn't remember the way/couldnt be bothered doing it the way BH does it. So he is either a fucking shitter or scum Not to say his following read on fidel is bad but I don't wanna talk about that until fidel has been around some more | ||
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On August 19 2015 12:46 JudgeJudy wrote: ![]() That doesn't make sense. If you say he didn't RNG fidel, that would mean he had a reason to single out fidel. Fidel had no posts at the point where he claimed to have RNG'd him. So what would be the selection criteria? Are you saying he selected a weak player to go after or something? Your reasoning doesn't seem fluid/natural which is scummy. Explain to me how given this formula (sum of each individual digit in the post id [ex: 1111 = 4]) / 21 [number of players alive in game] * coefficient of the thread's stupidity ritoky can RNG a number between 1 and 21. When the "coefficient of the thread's stupidity" would have to be a number chosen by himself as he couldn't put fucking infinity into this becouse that wouldnt give him a number between 1 and 21. SO YES I AM SAYING HE LIED ABOUT HOW HE RNG'D OR HE SPECIFICALLY CHOSE FIDEL. Do i have a reason why he chose fidel? No. But from what he has said i don't see how he could have rng'd him. What do you fail to understand here | ||
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On August 19 2015 13:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Bh makes longish arguments backing his rng lynches all the time. Totally normal. That's why i was saying it makes sense if that is in fact what he was doing On August 19 2015 13:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Bh used the exact same algorithm or whatever in FF. Is FF fantasy football mafia? Because this is BH's explanation of his RNG lynch. For RNG, this post will be used for generating a random lynch. The # in the upper left corner can be right-clicked and used to access the absolute TL post # for this post. That number mod 9 is the random lynch. 1 =Oats, 2 = rayn, etc, all the way up to 8 = holyflare and 0 = sloosh. The reason we use the absolute TL post number is that posts are constantly being made, so the number is truly random. We turn it into a number 1-14 by taking that number mod 14. What is mod? effectively, it's the remainder after division. For example. 13 mod 14 = 13. 14 mod 14 = 0. 18 mod 14 = 4. 19 mod 14 = 5. and so on. Basically, this generates a random number 1 through 14. I am in favor of the random lynch (though am somewhat interested in a policy lynch today as well-- TL does not do this enough. I will start off by voting for the random lynched based on THIS POST. This is not what ritoky did. | ||
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On August 19 2015 15:55 ruXxar wrote: Many people called me scum this game: Fecalfeast Chezinu But only these people voted for me: Wave Breshke Half the sky They want to expose me. Fecal and chez are major waffles. You will scum in there for sure. Chez looks bad in particular. Also HTS gives me scum vibes. Big time. If you are town what is there to be exposed? Why does there have to be scum in there? Why does chez look bad, what gives you scum vibes about HTS? | ||
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On August 20 2015 11:58 ritoky wrote: @FF: What do you make of fidei town reading breshke for questioning my method of RNG, but not mentioning it about you and subsequently scum reading you? This is a good question I think FF is really townie becouse we seemed to both find the RNG thing odd but both cbf actually calculating the win ratios and top it off with rit's seemingly legitimate push on Fidel soon after Not sure why Fidel wouldn't have liked this about ff. | ||
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Also judge I rly cbf you are saying I had to say the ritoky thing was black or white when really it's grey like it's stupid that he is claiming he rngd Fidel and people were "sleeping rng" and yes it would normally be scummy but that doesn't mean it is this game because he is being bh and just because I disagree with how he went about doesn't mean he is scum | ||
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On August 20 2015 23:09 JudgeJudy wrote: ![]() So what do you actually think about Fidel then? You said you wanted to wait until he posted more, which he clearly has by now. I decided I don't want to lynch him | ||
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Also rels most people know who I am you might not becouse you might not have played with them idk. Ask wos fairly sure he knew who I was not that it matters | ||
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On August 22 2015 09:28 Fecalfeast wrote: Do you even know who you're talking about? Do you know who thinks rels is mafia? Like kind of. I know one of the T Guys got nuked I think tube. Also geript/ksc were two of the people scum reading rels I believe and they are my top drinking buddies I have been asleep for like 16 of the past 24 hours though so my understanding of events is a bit sparse | ||
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On August 22 2015 09:36 KelsierSC wrote: wjat you drinking mate Terva or maybe some Salmiakkikossu | ||
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On August 22 2015 09:39 The Shining wrote: I don't actually know tbh. I just see Rels catching major heat cuz of EoD. No Bresh I haven't, why? Idk you seem to know of the fact that there are "fake nukes" but thinking about it there is many non weird explanations for that. Sorry carry on Geript when you are around I have some questions that you have probably already answered in your filter but ceebs | ||
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On August 22 2015 09:45 KelsierSC wrote: im worried that when i roleplay i am really close to me apparently im a twat RIP me well for me you just seemed to genienly not give a fuck which turned out to be some really good RP so well done man Who you wanna kill | ||
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On August 22 2015 09:56 KelsierSC wrote: lets lynch rles other than rles | ||
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On August 22 2015 10:13 Rels wrote: Getting sleepy Would lynch yamato bill tube and ritoki Waiting on rayn and breshke to do stuff Pretty sure dam is 3rd party but not so sure about survivor what if i continue not to do stuff? Are you not phased by the number of people wanting to lynch you? | ||
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On August 22 2015 15:43 Lord Tolkien wrote: Alright. Being straight (ha) here. Before i pass out. I get a nuke and antinuke. With ruXxar dead, I'm prob the last town antinuke, so I need to decide if I should block shining. going to nuke chezinu n1 because information and love to lynch/shoot for info early. As my window is now closed, ima use my nuke, likely, as a second lynch d2. Or to nuke yams if he doesnt use his apparently glorious free time to #dostuff. I will be at LCS this weekend but ill likely be available in the morning EST too keep posting. id be suprised if town didnt have more nukes / anti nukes tbh | ||
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On August 22 2015 17:15 Rels wrote: No anti nuke please. Voting yamato that claimed he would do something but is just waiting, apparently to see if its needed ##Vote yamato77 didn't I do this aswell | ||
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There is also anti nukes which stop nukes and also I believe there can be fake nukes Geript who in your list needs to die the most? | ||
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Im in the awkward position now of kind of wanting to just trust geript cos he is my strongest townread but killing rit feels wrong because he will be active | ||
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What do you think about these posts rit | ||
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On August 24 2015 10:15 ritoky wrote: i guess i doubt that LT and rels could be together based on what breshke just quoted. so revised list: chez 1 of rels & LT tubesock yamato obi also yam anti nuked LT | ||
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Also yamato anti nuked LT's nuke on chez. It is possible that this was a fake nuke or yamato doesn't give a fuck so isnt playing logically but in a world where neither of these are true. Yamato and LT are likely not mafia together If yamato or chez is mafia the other is likely not mafia Chez and LT are likely not mafia together So these are the two groups of people that can be mafia together Chez rels tube yama obi LT, tube, obi So in the case that LT is mafia i feel like these is probably a mafia somewhere in the town circle thingy because i dont really think obi is mafia | ||
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On August 24 2015 14:11 Lord Tolkien wrote: ... lol. Well. I get back from kbbq and this is where we are. My nuke gets shot down (lol, better than the tubesock nuke but holy crap that didn't go through either). Big bright side, scum-oriented pgo got lynched (even if it means I'm probably D3 lynch because i kept pinging him out for a check). Well, good news is that I can start playing the game on a regular basis after this night phase. Though i'll prob eat a vigi shot lel. KBBQ is amazing you must smell so good right now What do you think about yamato shooting your nuke down? Also how does Eod affect your view of the game | ||
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Lets try this again shall we ![]() | ||
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On August 24 2015 23:19 Rels wrote: I love you. He claimed to have an anti nuke though. I know, trust me everything is going according to plan | ||
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On August 24 2015 23:20 Fidei86 wrote: If he's mafia, he probably fires the anti-nuke to defend any scum targets anyway, right? not really. If he fires it to defend anyone other than himself he would have to have a reason why. I know yamato did it but he is a special boy | ||
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On August 24 2015 23:23 Fidei86 wrote: Viz who will get shot this evening, I have a message to mafia: ![]() :-) Are you saying we should kill you? | ||
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On August 24 2015 23:26 Rels wrote: I cannot even imagine that possibility You're too nice for that kind of plan ... right Will just have to wait and see i guess ![]() Im going to bed will probs try act more like my person tomorrow again (if im alive) just in case there is another tier of abilities. | ||
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On August 25 2015 09:57 geript wrote: We've flipped a watcher and a cop. Why do we expect a second cop? because like everyone is a role? I don't see why their couldn't be a second cop Why is chez town? | ||
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##Nuke:Chezinu (im fairly sure it will actually work this time) | ||
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On August 25 2015 12:08 geript wrote: I don't know why there was 3 kp on D1. I don't think there was but eh. i ment the why chez is town question | ||
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On August 25 2015 12:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Did you get this nuke from yamato or did you just have it? Very likely from yam | ||
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Obi i mightve given out some nukes when did you receive yours and how many you got? | ||
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On August 25 2015 13:11 Fecalfeast wrote: I have reason to believe that is not the case why what was your other ability? | ||
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well yamato did give three out. | ||
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Oh i thought you'd get the first one after daypost. This game feels weird now. | ||
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On August 25 2015 16:50 Rels wrote: Yeah. It is also more plausible that he didn't. Im telling you I gave out 4 nuke/antinukes/fakenukes during the night and it is possible chez received one. So i'd say it is more plausible that if chez is mafia he didn't rely on yamato to anti nuke him and would have just done it. Even if LT AND chez are bth mafia they dont just nuke chez and let him die if he has an anti nuke. Chez anti nukes himself LT pushes him and if he flips mafia he still looks good. It is more plausible chez got an anti nuke from me. | ||
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On August 25 2015 17:40 Fidei86 wrote: @Rels do you think it would be possible to compile a list of all nukes, claimed or otherwise, all claimed roles, all claimed checks and everything else? I feel like we've had so much more stuff going on than a usual game that I can't keep up. KSC and FF have a green on geript. KSC has a red on LT while FF has a "no result" on him. OWS has a nuke That is all the known stuff if im not mistaken. | ||
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Its funny cos tube mightve got his fake nuke from me | ||
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On August 25 2015 18:16 Chezinu wrote: Actually. Geript can you defend button pls? I think scum can't perform kill and defend button. I am not sure but it makes sense. Otherwise not go for mass button pressing N1? So all people that are defending button did not perform a NK. i feel so left out right now | ||
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What anti nuke? | ||
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On August 25 2015 18:21 Chezinu wrote: I got a 1 shot true cop check! I am also able to mason with said person. please don't claim a third check on geript | ||
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On August 25 2015 19:52 Fidei86 wrote: The issue I have with this game is that there are only four people left (me, Rels, JJ and TT) that actually seem to be playing the game from a townie perspective. Literally everyone else clearly has some sort of anti-town or town-indifferent agenda. I'm not sure if it makes the game better or worse, but it makes it a million times more annoying. I nuked mafia? | ||
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I dont think it works like that. His role said that the nukes can be real fake or anti. Not that there is one of each | ||
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On August 25 2015 23:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Oh right. Okay. Maybe I don't nuke Chez then. probably nuke FF or KSC LT says he has an anti. Could be lieing but meh. | ||
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Didn't LT try to nuke him. | ||
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Also all the nukes that were received during the middle of the night were from me. Interesting that some people haven't claimed them do you want me to out you? You should claim now. | ||
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On August 26 2015 10:13 Chezinu wrote: OH KNOW YOU ATTEMPTING THAT YOU GAVE ME THE ANTI-NUKE!?!?!? Wait until the people claim and I will explain | ||
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So maybe my upgrade gave out randomly distrubuted 4 random nukes. Im guessing maybe tube had one? and it was fake luckily. Chez got one too i think so only two are missing. Was trying to bluff them out. | ||
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On August 26 2015 12:21 Fecalfeast wrote: maybe? How do you come to the conclusion that your upgrade has a maybe? Okay not maybe. I randomly distrubuted 4 random nukes 2 which are still unaccounted for | ||
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If it doesn't settle anything im kind of being a bitch about who i want to lynch. FF's claim feels shitier and that kinda makes me think he is townier? I feel like he could have come up with a better claim as mafia. So i would be more for killing KSC. Geript if you could keep chez alive for the rest of the game would you? | ||
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On August 26 2015 14:29 geript wrote: If I could get a townread on Chez, absolutely. Like i get it. There's the voting thing in the back of my mind (re: LT voting on yamato). The not doing anything for the most part for two days. Plus I had an early scum read on him; and those reads tend to be more correct for me. But the thing is, when you have 2 players who are basically doing nothing, it literally takes nothing to bus. It's easy and buys you time. Plus, the ending votes make me think that maybe it's a scum vs 3p lynch, which makes me want to lynch 3p. IDK maybe I'm just bad this game, but I really struggle to see that I coudl be having that off of a game. Like i could anti nuke chez but I kind of want to elave it up to you because I know even if i tried really hard I can't read him for shit and would trust your read more. (also if you are scum then fuck the like 7 greens on you) But if i do anti nuke him the only way its not a horrible play is if everyone agrees to like never lynch him. | ||
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On August 26 2015 17:50 Fidei86 wrote: Can you fire nukes at night? Cause yeh, waiting for the lynch might have been better. I still sort of think it's an okay play though. Yeah you can The nuke might not even be a real one | ||
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On August 27 2015 08:40 Damdred wrote: Who nuked chez yesterday again? Me | ||
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Why does FF fakeclaim a "no result" check on LT. KSC had already claimed his red on LT by that time so FF is basically singling out that there is at least one non town between himself and KSC and he also opens himself up to scrutiny if LT ever flips which at the time of the claim was very likely. He further pigeon holes himself into this bad claim by destroying any case where he could have been roleblocked because he said he got his other actions. What i am struggling to understand is why? Why does FF do this as mafia? His claim wasn't going to save LT even if most of the thread didn't want to lynch him FF didn't claim a green he claimed a "no result" so he wasn't even trying to save him. On top of that he didn't even take the out that he could have been roleblocked when i suggested it. He further pitted himself against KSC. So this leads me to the fact that the only thing ff's claim as mafia would achieve would be to try and get KSC lynched considering their different checks. This I also think is a abd play because it would basically be a 2 mafia for 1 town trade. I have to go relook at KSC's claim but for the moment I actually think it is more likely that KSC is mafia and red checked his partner and FF is town. Or maybe they are both town but yeah If i could get opinions on this would be great | ||
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Like if we nuke FF or KSC tonight and they flip town the other one will get lynched and i think it is possible that they could both be town. It doesn't lose us the game but i would rather it didn't happen. I think we let ff live and he gets his check on KSC which is good for a couple reasons. 1. The check will most likely be legit because framer godfather is dead and hopefully there is no more cop hate 2. If FF gets a town check on KSC i think it basically confirms KSC town unless someone wants to argue point one or explain how they could be mafia together. | ||
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On August 27 2015 14:02 Tictock wrote: Ahh Breshke, it's almost like we are mason buddies again. I've been thinking pretty much exactly the same about FF, if he is scum his play is pretty desperate and risky and only serves to ping himself out as a teammate to LT. However, there is still the weirdness that he claims to have checked Wave N1 but never got a check, whereas Chez did recieve a check back on Yam stating that he was 3p and dead. I also find it odd that when he received a "no result" from his check his approach was to push KSC for lying rather than lynching LT to verify KSC's check. So I still think FF is a decent target to lynch/nuke. Yes Obi should use his nuke. I disagree. Yeah there is discrepancies but it could easily just be host fuck ups. Not nuking FF is better in the world where both FF and KSC is town. I think unless FF decided to make a bad claim as mafia he is almost certainly town. Im not sure with KSC but the rayn vote thing was a little townie because yeah he didnt really help much but he has been doing not much all game so i feel like him saying yeah i could switch means more than it does for the active players. Also i think nuking damdred is also a bad idea. If damdred dies in the night it makes KSC very likely mafia and even if it is just mafia killing damdred to frame him then so what they killed damdred its worth it. Basically this could be dumb but i think there is good information to be gotten from leaving KSC, damdred and FF alive and just dealing with them next day phase. I would prefer the nuke to go elsewhere and i realize there isnt many viable targets left but yeah. | ||
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Fourth times a charm | ||
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On August 27 2015 07:07 rsoultin wrote: Night 3 Lord Tolkien as Fecalfeast has been lynched. + Show Spoiler + Flavor: You are our resident stoner and shit eater. You are somehow always laid back. But always post shitty metal music videos that no one wants to listen to. Well at least people who matter. So just toke up take it easy and play some shitty mafia. Rolecop 1 nuke (fake) 1 anti nuke Upgrade: (medium) Post a metal music video Oh, yeah, force that shitty music on everyone. Nothing like making town’s ears bleed. You have unlocked...also RB your target! The first time you use this if they have or will ever get a mason QT you will get access to any and all of their QT’s TT read his role PM. He knew his nuke was fake Night 3 ends in The nuke turned out to be a dud. Carry on. And remember to submit any/all night actions to both hosts before the 1-hour silent resolution period. | ||
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But if LT shoots down a nuke on his partner then flips mafia doesn't that just make him seem mafia? If chez is town why doesn't LT blow it up so then we lynch chez the next day? | ||
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Nuke the chez It would be better for mafia to keep misslynchable chez around than to have him nukes. This is wifom though | ||
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LT Was asking for everyone to give two scum reads. I don't think he said he was going to nuke the second leading wagon | ||
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So rels is almost as confirmed as me and geript cos of that D2 vote count if say | ||
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Say tomorrow FF says he has a red on KSC Who do you lynch ff or KSC | ||
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On August 27 2015 21:58 KelsierSC wrote: i got people off rels onto lynching rayn i only changed at the end when rayn was majority so i could get my check with my check i had a red check on mafia, who we lynched but yeh im scum smartest town ever right here. So is FF mafia | ||
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Do you think FF is mafia? | ||
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If damdred dies tomorrow it is really awkward because he will be the third person who died after KSC had their vote on them. Also FF had his vote on KSC so he is going to get a check on him tomorrow and i really don't think that those two are aligned so the possibility of fF getting a town check and confirming KSC is one i would take. Nuke the chez | ||
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On August 27 2015 13:30 Breshke wrote: I don't understand some stuff. So say FF is partners with LT. Why does FF fakeclaim a "no result" check on LT. KSC had already claimed his red on LT by that time so FF is basically singling out that there is at least one non town between himself and KSC and he also opens himself up to scrutiny if LT ever flips which at the time of the claim was very likely. He further pigeon holes himself into this bad claim by destroying any case where he could have been roleblocked because he said he got his other actions. What i am struggling to understand is why? Why does FF do this as mafia? His claim wasn't going to save LT even if most of the thread didn't want to lynch him FF didn't claim a green he claimed a "no result" so he wasn't even trying to save him. On top of that he didn't even take the out that he could have been roleblocked when i suggested it. He further pitted himself against KSC. So this leads me to the fact that the only thing ff's claim as mafia would achieve would be to try and get KSC lynched considering their different checks. This I also think is a abd play because it would basically be a 2 mafia for 1 town trade. I have to go relook at KSC's claim but for the moment I actually think it is more likely that KSC is mafia and red checked his partner and FF is town. Or maybe they are both town but yeah If i could get opinions on this would be great | ||
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Nuke Chez | ||
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On August 27 2015 23:41 geript wrote: This is speculation but all 3 are known for their mafia game far more than their town game. FF is a bit of a meh, but I think he's got the hide in plain sight thing down as mafia. HF obvious. Lot of people forget that for the longest time Marv had only been lynched once as mafia (in an IML game iirc because he wanted to kill everyone). So Rsoultin maybe, Geript maybe, WaveofShadow likely. Otherwise idk. It's hard to think about who'd be mafia based on reputation. Isn't BH known for his mafia game? With that entire photo of boxes thing. | ||
Breshke
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The fact of the mater is FF is going to get a check on KSC so weather you think FF is mafia or not i think it is optimal to let him liveto give us this information on KSC because if he says KSC is green as i have explained it basically confirms him. Also do you not think it is weird that chez hasn't claimed what his role actually does? (has he?) Half the game is calling for him to get nuked you think he would try leverage it with his power. | ||
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GL if i die and dont wake up before deadline. I think the fact that a lot of the mafia voted together on D2 probably means that there is no mafia on the rayn vote what so ever. | ||
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I think it is possible that kel and FF are both town | ||
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Don't nuke him but don't listen to him too much either | ||
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Think he said he was phone posting so it could be hard for him to do so but kind of makes me think he is mafia | ||
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