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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 20 2015 08:05 GMT
#761
I'm clearly town and you're all bad
Zerg for Life
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 20 2015 08:11 GMT
#762
On August 20 2015 17:05 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm clearly town and you're all bad

KSC I've said some pretty mean things about you in the thread so far. I accused you of wanting to protect your meta more than actually wanting to help town win. Am I wrong?
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 20 2015 08:12 GMT
#763
On August 20 2015 16:50 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 16:46 Tubesock wrote:
Hypocrisy is delicious.

So, you top scum me because you've never played with me and don't have any "hopes" shall we say of me being more town. Over KelsierSC who is nailing Batsnacks' can't give a fuck attitude. You are saying that Kels usually doesn't do shit, but gets NK'd so he must be good? Is that what I read?

I'm not saying it makes sense that he keeps getting NK'd, I'm just saying that is what has happened in previous games. And this isn't Kelsier being bat - from what I've seen its what he does every game.

And as to scumming you - that was my read at the time. I need to update it now but I've been stuck in this dialogue with TT. I will obviously update my reads. But I don't see that I should just refuse to give a read because I haven't played with you before? And if I caveated every read with "but I haven't played with him before" that would be tedious. And I don't need to if I'm not basing the read on meta.


This kelsier guy sounds awesome Ifor he can troll/not give a fuck but still get nk'd for being town.

I haven't played with him but I will bow to your 2 game experience

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 20 2015 08:13 GMT
#764
On August 20 2015 17:11 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 17:05 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm clearly town and you're all bad

KSC I've said some pretty mean things about you in the thread so far. I accused you of wanting to protect your meta more than actually wanting to help town win. Am I wrong?


You are most of the time
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 20 2015 08:17 GMT
#765
I'm the townies town in the game, people scum reading me are scum or bad town.
Zerg for Life
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 20 2015 08:25 GMT
#766
On August 20 2015 17:17 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm the townies town in the game, people scum reading me are scum or bad town.


Did you get sicklucker?
I can take that responsibility.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:27 GMT
#767
On August 20 2015 17:17 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm the townies town in the game, people scum reading me are scum or bad town.

yeah only smart townies could see such obvious townieness from your filter
guess I'm not smart
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 20 2015 08:28 GMT
#768
I've just read Tube's filter a couple of times (which I hadn't done before - my previous run through was the thread). The thing that stands out to me most is that his town list is basically identical to mine. He town reads Breshke, JJ and Geript. He also has HTS who I am fairly null on. He goes hot then cold on Chez. The weirdest thing about his reads is his "ritoky is towny but then maybe he's actually null." I don't think its a slip, though - it's not like I've been able to get a hard read on Ritoky either. His point on JJ going away I don't agree with, but it's hardly scummy.

So ... Yah. The stuff that I was focussing on (the early game spam and the move onto me) seem less important now than what he has done subsequently, which aligns with my views a lot more. So now I'm thinking Tube is probably town.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:30 GMT
#769
On August 20 2015 17:28 Fidei86 wrote:
The thing that stands out to me most is that his town list is basically identical to mine.
...
So now I'm thinking Tube is probably town.

wow
that's stupid
you can't possibly think that
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 20 2015 08:31 GMT
#770
I may also be subconsciously giving Tube a pass because he appears to be actually playing the game how I think it should be played, rather than lurking, shitposting or being useless (see Kelsier).
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 20 2015 08:32 GMT
#771
On August 20 2015 17:31 Fidei86 wrote:
I may also be subconsciously giving Tube a pass because he appears to be actually playing the game how I think it should be played, rather than lurking, shitposting or being useless (see Kelsier).


You're such a fun sponge
Zerg for Life
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:33 GMT
#772
##Unvote
##Vote Fidei86
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 20 2015 08:33 GMT
#773
On August 20 2015 17:30 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 17:28 Fidei86 wrote:
The thing that stands out to me most is that his town list is basically identical to mine.
...
So now I'm thinking Tube is probably town.

wow
that's stupid
you can't possibly think that

Having aligned views has been a reasonable town indicator, based on my experience, which is limited. Happy to be educated if you don't agree. But with so much lurking and bad play going on, it seems like bad play to tunnel someone who actually seems to be reading the game somewhat similarly to me, surely?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:35 GMT
#774
On August 20 2015 17:33 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 17:30 Rels wrote:
On August 20 2015 17:28 Fidei86 wrote:
The thing that stands out to me most is that his town list is basically identical to mine.
...
So now I'm thinking Tube is probably town.

wow
that's stupid
you can't possibly think that

Having aligned views has been a reasonable town indicator, based on my experience, which is limited. Happy to be educated if you don't agree. But with so much lurking and bad play going on, it seems like bad play to tunnel someone who actually seems to be reading the game somewhat similarly to me, surely?

ofc mafia are going to townread some town
the fact that he has townreads and almost no scumreads is scum indicative
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:39 GMT
#775
fidei + tubesock scumteam
only meaningful posts from tubesock comes from discussion with fidei
tubesocks does nothing except naming some townreads and defending from fidei, goes to sleep
then fidei townreads him
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 20 2015 08:43 GMT
#776
Hmm. That makes sense, but then again I've seen players hesitate to give scum reads early on and be town.

Is your read on me just because you think I'm playing badly? Because I'm generally accused of that. And I admit that I'm not a good player really, at least not in these bigger games. In Himalayas I basically lurked for three days, and only got through because I rolled mason with rsoult. But do you think that scum me (in my first scum game, no less) (1) has totally unguarded, and in hindsight, pretty dumb thread entry, (2) doesn't scum read Rux immediately, who is the clear alternative wagon here and is being pushed by at least some of my town reads, and (3) doesn't try to jump enthusiastically onto the Tube wagon, which, as you said yourself literally a couple of minutes ago, would serve to pretty much exonerate me.

All that in a meta where lurkers do not get punished and indeed get a free pass (not just in this game, it happens in pretty much all my games here). And if I had scum team mates, would they not either (I) be trying to direct attention elsewhere, or (II) telling me how to not be such obvious scum?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 20 2015 08:46 GMT
#777
I say "be obvious scum" because everything I post seems to only be serving to further incriminate me :-(
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:48 GMT
#778
On August 20 2015 17:43 Fidei86 wrote:
(1) has totally unguarded, and in hindsight, pretty dumb thread entry

Yes new (stupid) scum does just that.
On August 20 2015 17:43 Fidei86 wrote:
(2) doesn't scum read Rux immediately, who is the clear alternative wagon here and is being pushed by at least some of my town reads

Yes new (stupid) scum does just that.
On August 20 2015 17:43 Fidei86 wrote:
3) doesn't try to jump enthusiastically onto the Tube wagon, which, as you said yourself literally a couple of minutes ago, would serve to pretty much exonerate me

No. Doing that if you're mafia and tubesock is town is super stupid. Hence why I think you're a team.
On August 20 2015 17:43 Fidei86 wrote:
All that in a meta where lurkers do not get punished and indeed get a free pass (not just in this game, it happens in pretty much all my games here).

But contrary to all those lurkers, you are a lynch candidate today. It's garanteed that if you didn't post for 24 hours you would be the lynch.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 20 2015 08:48 GMT
#779
On August 20 2015 17:32 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 17:31 Fidei86 wrote:
I may also be subconsciously giving Tube a pass because he appears to be actually playing the game how I think it should be played, rather than lurking, shitposting or being useless (see Kelsier).


You're such a fun sponge

The fact that people who play like you get free passes consistently drives me nuts. Give some opinions. Try and freaking help out. Ask some questions or prod someone or at least do something other than recycling the same smarmy passive-aggressive stuff that you can't seem to get away from.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 20 2015 08:50 GMT
#780
now that I explained why your tubesock's townread is stupid, do you reconsider ?
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