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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
August 20 2015 07:09 GMT
#734
Since my town reads 12 hours into the game where weird to you, why didn't you ask?

For prosperity now they are:

Geript, Judge, Breshke and Half the Sky.

I'm revaluating Chezinu due to Geript. He's right, Chez has really fallen off and it's not even the weekend. I really liked his beginning though.

Care to talk of any of the above? Or you want to talk to me?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
August 20 2015 07:16 GMT
#737
What's your thinking on Damdred?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
August 20 2015 07:39 GMT
#748
On August 20 2015 16:26 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 16:16 Tubesock wrote:
What's your thinking on Damdred?


Okay I have a bunch of thoughts.

1. Damdred is a strong player, especially towards the later part of the game. However his reads early on are usually quite meh. In Holy Guardians he was 100% wrong on all of reads until like d4 when he solved the game and got insta-NK'd.

2. There is no point in even bothering to parse his posts so far - they are garbage. Clearly he is role playing. Fine. But exactly as I said viz Onegu in Holy Guardians - he's easy lynch bait later on if he doesn't stop messing around. I would be pushing him harder, but there are too many people who haven't been playing the game properly (as I think of it anyway.. Pushing, giving reads, interacting on meaningful stuff) for a policy lynch to make sense. I think I had what, nine people on my 'lurker' list? Pretty sure some are Mafia, but they can't all be.

3. Damdred and ritoky always claim that they have a super good read on each other. So far, from the games I've seen, their reads on each other are usually right. So honestly if I was going to listen to someone's opinion of Damdred, it would be ritoky (especially now ritoky seems to be engaged in the game a little more).


I meant your thoughts on Damdred THIS game.

I don't particularly care if he roleplays or not. I think of this game like a big chance for everyone to smurf. In the beginning of the game Damdred was posting his rp and it sparked conversation. It got Chezinu salty, Fecalfeast, and geript as well. Stepping back I got some reads watching them go. So, to me Damdred was useful. Now, like everyone else I wish he would answer TickTock questions and post more since his phone internet is fixed (*5 hours??)

So, did YOU Fidei gain anything from him?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
August 20 2015 07:41 GMT
#750
On August 20 2015 16:30 Fidei86 wrote:
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On August 20 2015 16:25 Tictock wrote:
On August 20 2015 16:19 Fidei86 wrote:
Ritoky's posts since my wot are much more like what I expect from town ritoky, fwiw.


This, plus what I said about the RNG stuff being more likely to come from town!ritoky paradying than scum!ritoky hiding and tunneling, is why I'm feel ok sheeping his case atm.

Since you are around, and because I'm wavering atm (haven't even actually voted) who would you vote today?

Who do you think is your strongest scumread atm Fidei? and why?

A predetermined meta is literally the easiest thing to stick to. Well, perhaps it's slightly harder than just lurking, but not by much. My reads were all mostly on that sort of 'superficial' level too, so I don't think it's necessarily scummy from you, but I don't think your reasoning there is particularly sound.

Let me go and read some more filters before I answer you definitively. Off the top of my head, I'd probably say Tubesock. I'll go read his filter again now.


Just like to point out that the bolded is so crazy untrue. If it were, then no one would use meta as everyone would play their "town" meta no matter their role.

Why am I your top vote? Half the shit you scummed me for you agreed with. You know like how you weren't reading...
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
August 20 2015 07:46 GMT
#753
Hypocrisy is delicious.

So, you top scum me because you've never played with me and don't have any "hopes" shall we say of me being more town. Over KelsierSC who is nailing Batsnacks' can't give a fuck attitude. You are saying that Kels usually doesn't do shit, but gets NK'd so he must be good? Is that what I read?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
August 20 2015 08:00 GMT
#759
On August 20 2015 16:50 Fidei86 wrote:
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On August 20 2015 16:46 Tubesock wrote:
Hypocrisy is delicious.

So, you top scum me because you've never played with me and don't have any "hopes" shall we say of me being more town. Over KelsierSC who is nailing Batsnacks' can't give a fuck attitude. You are saying that Kels usually doesn't do shit, but gets NK'd so he must be good? Is that what I read?

I'm not saying it makes sense that he keeps getting NK'd, I'm just saying that is what has happened in previous games. And this isn't Kelsier being bat - from what I've seen its what he does every game.

And as to scumming you - that was my read at the time. I need to update it now but I've been stuck in this dialogue with TT. I will obviously update my reads. But I don't see that I should just refuse to give a read because I haven't played with you before? And if I caveated every read with "but I haven't played with him before" that would be tedious. And I don't need to if I'm not basing the read on meta.


Ok, my point was you are scumming me the most of everyone in the game for retracting from a Chezinu Ruling 10 minutes into the game (which is super dubious in this type of game anyway), scumming you for not reading (which you admitted to doing), and giving 4 townreads (2 which were not even strong) without reasoning.

And for giving passes to others because of history with them in a game where all that shit is out the window. Who cares if Ritoky and Damdred are soulreaders in other games. This is a smurf game. Are they doing things you think make them town or not?

Anyway, I've been up for around 32 hours or something stupid and need to pass out.

Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
August 20 2015 17:58 GMT
#892
On August 20 2015 23:53 Half the Sky wrote:
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On August 19 2015 14:32 Tubesock wrote:
Chez, Breshke townpile.

Ritoky and Damdred probs town. I can't blame them for being bad roleplayers. The BH's RNG is easy enough to research that I think mafia would go the extra distance to copy it and avoid scrutiny. If anything he's null.

I didn't like Tictock's entrance or posts but it's cause he reminds me of Trfel.

Shining you going to lay a trap or what?

*postgame cred hilarity - Chez and Fecalfeast are actually partners and scumming Damdred for Chezinu Rule continuity. Trolly troll trolls from trollerville.


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On August 20 2015 16:39 Tubesock wrote:
I meant your thoughts on Damdred THIS game.

I don't particularly care if he roleplays or not. I think of this game like a big chance for everyone to smurf. In the beginning of the game Damdred was posting his rp and it sparked conversation. It got Chezinu salty, Fecalfeast, and geript as well. Stepping back I got some reads watching them go. So, to me Damdred was useful. Now, like everyone else I wish he would answer TickTock questions and post more since his phone internet is fixed (*5 hours??)

So, did YOU Fidei gain anything from him?


Alright, so Tube, you told me that your "you scum Damdred" was in response to Fecalfeast. Fine.

You explained why you thought Damdred was useful but where are you distinguishing he's town? Is there a quote? A reaction? A response?

There are several players that are saying (besides myself) that a) he could be roleplaying as either alignment, geript himself has said he can't get a read (or positive town/not town read either way), so taking that assumption and even if he's getting reactions, how do you know he's not doing it as scum?

Am I making sense here?


HtS. How do you get "You still scum Damdred?" as me scumming Damdred? I asked Fecalfeast because he was around, was first to tonally scumread Damdred and I was also seeing if he was up for chatting. Fidei appeared so I focused on him.

Fidei was actually the first to say I townread Damdred. The post he refers to is where I said I can't fault Damdred or Ritoky for not roleplaying really well. Both of those guys were getting heat for what I thought was less than stellar roleplaying. Not exactly a town read but it's above null so I felt no need to clarify. I won't lynch either of them. So to answer your question, no there isn't anywhere that I think Damdred is distinguishing as town. He has done enough to stay in the game as far as I'm concerned.

It would be different if we didn't have 890743598 lurkers.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
August 20 2015 18:12 GMT
#893
@geript - I'd be fine with Yam, Kels, VA, LT, Beneather as policies. Although Ben will be modkilled I'm sure so basically equivelant to a no vote in a way.

I liked Chezinu early on. It's probably also because he's one of my favorite players to read so I don't want to lynch him as he's fun. kinda bummed he got one of the serious players. He hasn't really done anything since but sheep cool kids. So haha yeah pretty strong reason to not lynch a guy
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
August 20 2015 18:28 GMT
#899
Obi, other than me, who would you lynch? Why?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
August 20 2015 18:36 GMT
#904
On August 21 2015 03:23 JudgeJudy wrote:
[image loading]

I just re-read Chezinu's filter and I'm satisfied enough to ##Vote Chezinu.

We really should start consolidating on a couple of targets so it's not a last minute thing that comes down to the three people who happen to be around at the deadline.


I didn't further talk about Fidei because he showed up and we chatted for a couple hours. Nothing really new to add. I still think he's best lynch. He's really nice so I kinda feel bad but then I read his stuff and it's like uhhhhhh what? His response about Damdred was mostly about Damdred the player not how he was in this game nor if he would lynch him or not. Several other people pointed out how he didn't answer questions but he sure is nice. yeeeeaaaaaah. Scum.

Granted, Chezinu hasn't done much. What do you think of how he went after Damdred or Ritoky? I liked it felt towny to me. His downsides are that he isn't continuing it, and other than knowing his 4 current townreads, no one knows if he still scums Damdred or Ritoky. How does that outweigh 2 others who are doing some majorly weird shit?

Let's even forget Fidei, ruXxar was slinging scum on anyone just to see if anything stuck. I guess you can call that scumhunting by reaction testing? But that seems pretty far fetched to me.

I don't see how lynching Chezinu is higher prob mafia than Fidei, ruXxar or coinflipping half a dozen lurkers.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
August 20 2015 18:52 GMT
#918
On August 21 2015 03:38 Half the Sky wrote:
On mobile, bear with me....

Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 03:12 Tubesock wrote:
@geript - I'd be fine with Yam, Kels, VA, LT, Beneather as policies. Although Ben will be modkilled I'm sure so basically equivelant to a no vote in a way.

I liked Chezinu early on. It's probably also because he's one of my favorite players to read so I don't want to lynch him as he's fun. kinda bummed he got one of the serious players. He hasn't really done anything since but sheep cool kids. So haha yeah pretty strong reason to not lynch a guy


That's actually a really poor reason not to lynch a guy or even townread them. A mafia player can townread someone and sheep someone for bad reasons, those same points were being brought up I believe against Rels. The bias on Chez is understandable since I recall you have your ways with some of the harder players to read (generally) but someone being "fun" I don't value the same as being town, I realise it's a personality game and I can understand a tone read on someone being lighthearted (normally) associating with being town, but I don't see the way you've listed as a valid reason for being town.

Also why is your vote still on Fidei? The other two I realise have been afk for a bit, but...


Course it's a bad reason it's mostly because I like the guy.

You guys are towning Fidei because he's nice. That's literally it.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
August 20 2015 19:05 GMT
#932
On August 21 2015 03:39 Half the Sky wrote:
WHAT??????

Tube did you even read some of Fidei's latest posts? Maybe I'm biased because I know his play better but how the hell is he still a top scumread?


Yeah he looks better than before. Like he doesn't make me want to shake babies anymore. But his posts are still like wrong.

LIke his Chezinu Rule explanation. Earlier he admitted he didn't really know the rule, but again he's posting like he knows so he looks helpful.

The rule as I see it is basically specific to mafia players disdain for weird not super serious players. And the first time scum players play with a player like Chezinu (I think it applies also to players like LightningStrike, Sicklucker, Alakaslam and possibly ruXxar in this game ((he's playing weird AND rolled LS))) mafia jumps on the easy lynch.

In Chezinu's case it has never failed. Never.

Shit like that. Fidei's Damdred response highlights things best I think. His response had a more about Damdred the player than it did anything in this game. His answers show his head isn't really in this game figuring it out, it's how to be nice and survive. He had a bunch of thoughts but nothing that indicated if he would lynch damdred or not. So in a chance to actually do some stuff he didn't. Again.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
August 20 2015 19:48 GMT
#945
On August 21 2015 04:39 geript wrote:
It's not great wave. But it's big picture for me. Plus I'd rather lurker lynch. Off if I lose to people who post. Hell I don't give many fucks about this game but let's at least enjoy lynching the assholes who don't even play.


So who?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
August 20 2015 19:58 GMT
#948
My Fidei thoughts still stand but it's basically a useless vote.

Geript is 1 of 2 in this game that is actually trying. If he's mafia then we all deserve to lose to him for being hte worst town that's ever towned. I'll sheep him (outside of Chezinu because <3, and I do believe he is roleplaying Palmar )

##Vote: yamato77

Of the lurkers he's the smallest filter. Kelsier like batsnacks somehow as 3 pages of nothing.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
August 20 2015 19:59 GMT
#950
Bah, course I missed you post.

Why Kelsier over Yamato? Yamato will be more useful later? Same reason you are not policying VA?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
August 20 2015 20:07 GMT
#956
On August 21 2015 05:01 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 04:58 Tubesock wrote:
My Fidei thoughts still stand but it's basically a useless vote.

Geript is 1 of 2 in this game that is actually trying. If he's mafia then we all deserve to lose to him for being hte worst town that's ever towned. I'll sheep him (outside of Chezinu because <3, and I do believe he is roleplaying Palmar )

##Vote: yamato77

Of the lurkers he's the smallest filter. Kelsier like batsnacks somehow as 3 pages of nothing.


perhaps but the brilliant minds taking this game too seriously have taken 44 pages to come up with "lynch lurkers" so i'm happy with my content.


It's why I voted yam and not you.

Kinda ironic you're lurker with one of hte biggest filters.

But you've still done jack shit all game and absolutely nothing townie. Pretty fantastic excuse to do nothing roleplaying Bats.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
August 20 2015 20:20 GMT
#969
Lord,

your vote is on a blue claim...did you see that or ignoring it?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
August 20 2015 20:22 GMT
#971
Also, I didn't make your list Tolkien.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
August 20 2015 20:47 GMT
#985
I didn't ever softclaim if you're talking to me.

Kelsier is playing his role better than anyone in this game and he's not stealing yours. ALthough he isn't doing jackshit so he's a great lynch so I agree with you there.

Rels contribution is that all three of Fidei, ruXxar, and I are mafia. Riiiiiigggghhhhhtt. And really inferred Ritoky too since we would have needed Ritoky to set up the double bus strategy.

Newbs do really baller plays as scum. Yeah.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
August 20 2015 20:56 GMT
#992
On August 21 2015 05:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 05:47 Tubesock wrote:
I didn't ever softclaim if you're talking to me.

Kelsier is playing his role better than anyone in this game and he's not stealing yours. ALthough he isn't doing jackshit so he's a great lynch so I agree with you there.

Rels contribution is that all three of Fidei, ruXxar, and I are mafia. Riiiiiigggghhhhhtt. And really inferred Ritoky too since we would have needed Ritoky to set up the double bus strategy.

Newbs do really baller plays as scum. Yeah.


Was talking about rux lol.


Crap. I was responding to The Shining. Apparently forgot the quote. Should be:


On August 21 2015 05:39 The Shining wrote:
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On August 20 2015 20:30 Fidei86 wrote:
@The Shining I just read your filter. It looks like your only real substantive action is to push Tube. Your two reasons are (1) his "on again, off again" Chezinu read on Geript, and (2) his jumping on my wagon. What do you think of Rels' case on Tube? Do you have any other scum reads?

I do like that TS read Geript's complaints about the general play of lots of players in this game as towny. I had the same reaction, although I don't think it's because scum wouldn't care that they wouldn't post like geript, I think it's because the behaviour that geript is lamenting (town inactivity / mehness) is hurting town. Then again, it sort of contradicts with TS's overall play, which I think has been lacklustre.


i don't do D1 and neither does my personality hahaha. i hate it, always have, always will. big crapshoot. I found my d1 scum and i'm sticking with it. i've seen nothing Tube has done since then to dissuade me. soft blue claim, yuck. Rels case on tube is a good one because it's a case on my scum, ya? I especially like the bolded part. but the other parts are good too.

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On August 20 2015 18:14 Rels wrote:
On August 20 2015 18:10 Tictock wrote:
On August 20 2015 17:59 Rels wrote:
I think you're scummy. Didn't like the fact that you attacked ritoky when drunk (so you read the thread) but didn't know Damdred was Chezinu (so you didn't read the thread).
read the thread + didn't read the thread = someone told you you were attacked = guy with a QT = probably mafia

I think tubesock is mafia though
##Unvote
##Vote Tubesock


I'm either lazy or not reading properly, possibly both

Can you recap why you think Tube is mafia for me?

second time you're asking me that
tubesock is mafia because:
- voted easy target at the beginning of the game
- asks questions and does nothing afterwards
- only has townreads
- has no content
- came back, attacked fidei / defended himself, then left



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On August 21 2015 01:01 Half the Sky wrote:
OWS, right now I'm at ruXxar/LT/Tubesock/yamato.


so ur saying the two wagons are both scum? that's a bit of a stretch for d1 in a game this big. and I see no shenanigans or any huge mass push to save either one of them. i think rux is town and taking the hit for my scum, tube.

i also think kelsier is scum because IM the towniest town to ever town and anyone trying to plynch or scum me is scum or bad. that's MY personality. he's trying to steal my identity, which means he's hiding his, which means he has something to hide. kill him.

I think that also answers your questions on who else i think is scum. i have tube, kelsier scum. damdred and geript and chezinu and Rels are my bros right now. especially damdred. i like cheznoes. HtS looks broish but she's a sneaky one, it could be deceiving. lines of questioning are good but i am iffy about being led to do reads on other ppl instead of coming to them myself. but u get a pass today cuz i like ur questions.

i don't like list posts and i thought i didn't like lords list post. but I reread it a few times. i don't wanna lynch him today, he left a lot of info and thoughts to track back to if necessary.

and fidei did good to fight off rng. looks towny to me.

this post way too long for me but i m too lazy to spam today

EBYOP:
I didn't ever softclaim if you're talking to me.

Kelsier is playing his role better than anyone in this game and he's not stealing yours. ALthough he isn't doing jackshit so he's a great lynch so I agree with you there.

Rels contribution is that all three of Fidei, ruXxar, and I are mafia. Riiiiiigggghhhhhtt. And really inferred Ritoky too since we would have needed Ritoky to set up the double bus strategy.

Newbs do really baller plays as scum. Yeah.
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