[M][T] The New Personality Mafia - Page 2

On August 19 2015 09:19 KelsierSC wrote:


probably because no one cares

On August 19 2015 18:16 KelsierSC wrote:


At least you're being consistent

On August 19 2015 10:18 ritoky wrote:
We should lynch Fidei

After reviewing the game, I have arrived at the same place. Fidei is the best candidate for lynch both objectively and subjectively.

The Objective Case:

RNG has selected fidei, he is mafia. If you need an explanation of how he was selected please reference my filter. Outside of that RNG is PARTICULARLY suited for this game. This is a closed setup, and historically in closed setups there is an incredibly strong likelihood that there are more anti-town players than are normally in an open setup. So with that alone our probability of hitting mafia from RNG has already increased by a significant margin. However, there is more. We are playing a game in which people are attempting to act like other people and mask their own play as someone else's. This means that day 1 reads and particularly day 1 meta reads have a diminished rate of accuracy. Meaning RNG is the optimal line of play. A situation with increased odds of hitting mafia and diminished validity of meta reads clearly points to RNG being the objective best line of play.

The Subjective Case:

Outside of RNG declaring fidei mafia, he is actually mafia. Consider his posting thus far:



There are 3 aspects to this post that I would like to highlight:

1) The most classic mafia play ever: "Notice me senpai -> excuse about activity". His final sentence has no point other than to say hi I am here and fade away.

2) He is drunk or at least partially. This is important because drunk people are more prone to letting slip things or not being careful with their wording. Will be revisited later.

3) His immediate entrance response into the thread is to seek out me and essentially claim a personality to me in a very half-assed manner. First and foremost there is not point to this because he knows who I am and once RNG has declared him mafia, appeals to emotion are pointless only hard logic can deter me. Secondly, it may be coincidence but singling out the only person calling him mafia and appealing to them directly reads as an over-response to pressure. And finally the half-assed imitation. This will require some explanation.

I think people who are committing heavily to trying to act the part of the player they got rolled into and are sticking to it for a decent portion of time are very likely to be town. I feel that it is a risky play to play in a manner unlike yourself and in one that could potentially draw lynch attention to you for not playing "serious". Mafia are averse to both risk and lynch pressure on day 1, and thus would be less apt to fully commit to acting the part of someone else. I do not necessarily read legitimate frustration with the game type or completely ignoring who you rolled as scum though, I don't think the converse works. However, the half-ass attempts read as scum to me because it seems as if it is a mere "LOL"/attention grab for a few moments for them or a tool to further their agenda. This is the area fidei falls into in my mind.

Continuing on, and credit to Tubesock on the find here:







This goes hand in hand with point #2 from above, that fidei is drunk. He made an obvious error that speaks for itself. I can elaborate further, but I feel these consecutive quotes are very self explanatory. Not only did tubesock find it important but so did others:





And what was fidei's response to this important question?



Ignoring it and complaining. I hate to break it to you, but this is a regular mafia game already, and this is a real accusation; and you really are mafia.

Fidei is objectively and subjectively the best lynch in the game, anyone not voting for him is taking a sub-optimal line of play and is bad.

On August 20 2015 07:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


I don't have a problem with you not reading the lurkers either way, because, frankly, it's mostly true.
The fact of the matter is that there are way too many "scum leans" in your list. Narrow it down: who is scummier and why?

On August 20 2015 07:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Good job taking two posts before I came to the conclusion that you were town, but then ignoring the ones where I actually came to some sort of conclusion and then flipped that read when you called me mafia for garbage reasons.

On August 19 2015 22:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Actually I just realized that I misread ruxxar's post.
Lol oops, I need caffeine before I can brain.

On August 19 2015 22:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Ima vote him anyway though.

On August 20 2015 02:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'll do stuff when I get off work.
Rux seems sorta okay at a glance though, probably shouldn't vote him.

On August 20 2015 02:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


I changed my mind.
100% mafia

On August 20 2015 08:05 KelsierSC wrote:
who is geript?

On August 20 2015 07:54 KelsierSC wrote:


in fairness i'm town and I have no interest in solving the game here.

On August 20 2015 16:46 Tubesock wrote:
Hypocrisy is delicious.

So, you top scum me because you've never played with me and don't have any "hopes" shall we say of me being more town. Over KelsierSC who is nailing Batsnacks' can't give a fuck attitude. You are saying that Kels usually doesn't do shit, but gets NK'd so he must be good? Is that what I read?

On August 20 2015 17:05 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm clearly town and you're all bad