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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
September 02 2015 05:40 GMT
#4066
How should I have played my role to be pro-town? Let myself get lynched without using it when I thought there was a chance Rit was mafia?

I feel like I played my role to the best of my ability, clearly got it wrong though since I'm going to have 2 mislynches on my head now.

Just do me a favor and not waste tomorrow afk voting me, my flip will not end the game.

I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
September 02 2015 06:01 GMT
#4069
Not sure that would have worked with Damdred voting me.

In effect I have 3 votes, and only when I'm being voted on.

I can move one of the votes on me to someone else, and make my own vote count twice at the same time.

So at best I could have made it a tied vote between me and Obi, but the 3 votes on me would have been counted first so wouldn't have mattered.

Ehh, w/e even if we loose this game and everyone blames me for throwing it here, I had a ton of fun around EoD. When else am I gunna get to claim God?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
September 02 2015 15:31 GMT
#4099
@JJ

My ability only allows me to manipulate votes on myself.

Yesturday was literally my first option to use it.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
September 03 2015 06:25 GMT
#4167
On September 02 2015 21:18 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2015 17:45 Fidei86 wrote:
@geript

Doesn't town TT use the power 100% as well? If he knows he's town and he *thinks* the other wagon is mafia, it is always the right play to fix the votes. Hell, even if he doesn't think ritoky is mafia, it's still the correct play, mechanically, from a town perspective.

Since when am I faulting him for using his power?


I really don't like how Geript is going about this, like he's basically saying it doesn't matter if I'm town or not he just wants to lynch me kus of my ability.

Since people are still clearly unable to read what it is I was actually able to do I'll spell it out for everyone in my next post. however I will admit I lied just a bit.

The whole deal was one shot, I implied I could still use it today just in case I could draw a NK on me, but it was a long shot.

Also I can confirm Obi vanillized me, so even if you don't believe me about the One-shot I don't have any role anymore besides VT thanks to him.

I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
September 03 2015 06:40 GMT
#4168
Ok here you go full rundown on my role and the soft claims I made.

On August 19 2015 13:18 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 12:50 Half the Sky wrote:
Tictock probs Geript, could be scum.

Talks about ruxxar's points on meta, but doesn't discuss the rest of ruxxar's posting, which others had found scummy.
Post to VA doesn't indicate thoughts on his opening.


I will neither confirm nor deny this. Nor will I describe how absolutely terribly a wagon on me would derail.

And meh

It's early, I don't want to get all serious just yet.

On August 22 2015 08:43 Tictock wrote:
Honestly atm, I'm tempted to believe all the restriction/role related stuff being claimed atm.

The only one that stands out...

Is ritoky's.

All of them are rather silly and makes their votes NAI, however rit's is the only one that is a pure hindrance without anything else attached. The other roles seem to be more situational/conditional and have some leeway.

My own role has a nifty little trick, but it's unlikely that I will get to use it since it's rather conditional.


So right now I'm thinking Rit is either lying to us about something or is mafia.


I think there was a few more little one liners dropping hints, but that's more or less how I was softing my ability.

The role itself is as follows:
Once per game I am able to move the vote of someone voting for me to a player of my choosing, in addition my own vote counts twice when I use it.

Upgrade Condition (failed): Correctly townread 7 unflipped players in a single post before EoD2
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
September 03 2015 06:55 GMT
#4169
On September 01 2015 15:07 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 14:05 ritoky wrote:
here's my last bit of shit until i come back to vote:

JJ - wrong, pushing wrong for bad and falsified reasons, voted at 59 on rayn wagon but found gif in time; is wrong, what is end game when i flip town if mafia? not trying to get read on anyone else, claimed MH aka don't lynch me bro role

OWS - poe from rayn wagon, vanillizing not alignment indicative role would lean toward it being mafia sided but meh, play is more town than others

TT - stone nothing, literal 0 memory of his play since rayn lynch, suddenly now under pressure = more active, claims no active ability role when almost eveyone has had, will not talk about role even though everyone claimed and has not justified it, PoE cuz fid prob town, damd 3p, ger town, me town.



Heh, yea ok your prob mafia.

Scum reading me because I'm suddenly "more active" when being pushed and not wanting to discuss my role. Yet using the point's I've brought up against JJ against him at the same time.

Though I do agree about the 1 shot nullify thing from obi being nai and thus not a great reason to think him more town, but ignores that Obi was telling people to avoid him because something bad would happen.

Oddly enough I think a lot of people agree Obi could be scum here and he might very well be the best lynch. The reason I say I feel like his lynch isn't too informative is because there is less contention there. It's the mechanical easy play, (Everyone not on Rayn wagon - green checks = Obi) and it will still be there tomorrow so I'm inclined to leave him alone another day.

@ JJ

I'll respond to your stuff sometime in the morning


This was the point when I voted Rit, and was the point that tipped me from being unsure on him to thinking he had a real shot at being mafia.

Rit's whole play last cycle was really uninvolved past defending himself, he wasn't really pushing any real reads and the post I quoted from him here was the culmination of his reads. It looked like total shit to me, especially since I remembered Rit making a post N2 or D3 that was showing how I was probably confirmed town from how Rayn reacted to my post suggesting we lynch him. Overall it looked to me like Rit just didn't care who got lynched besides him based off this post though.

On September 02 2015 04:31 ritoky wrote:
we lynching tt? cool he is on the list.

honestly don't care and haven't read anything since my last post. just gonna try to lynch mafia and block kp in the night since i am confirmed town.


So I was pretty sure around EoD that he was mafia and thus chose to blow him up over myself.

I'm not sure how it makes sense that I'm scum and decided to play out my ability like I did when it clearly did nothing for my towncred but throw it all away. But this is the conclusion you all are reaching kus Town has been really shit this game, especially geript.

At least Fidei had some sense, and JJ is actually playing the game trying to look at stuff and ask questions.

Thinking that I'm the last mafia and made the plays I did is about the worst line of thinking I've seen this game.

W/E though, lynch me if you want. I had my fun this game.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
September 03 2015 06:57 GMT
#4170
This was the post from Rit I was referring to btw.

On August 24 2015 11:20 ritoky wrote:
Vote on rayn aside I think TT is pretty much confirmed town going forward as well. Cuz of the following:

Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 05:40 Tictock wrote:
Hi

I'm around, and kinda like the way things are moving atm.

Going a bit back and forth on Rels, he's made a few posts like he's trying to see if he can push scum on anyone else to save himself but also a few posts with decent thoughts. Like earlier he listed me as part of his town circle but then recently says HtS is good at reading me scum so mighta been onto something. Similar soft push onto geript.
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 20 2015 16:54 Rels wrote:
hello

don't have time to play so will sheep my town reads ritoky, geript, HTS, TT, JJ, OWS

On August 24 2015 01:12 Rels wrote:
Read Hts filter.

Her townread was ritoky, breshke, fidei and TT. TT read is super important to me. Especially, she called TT scum early on as obs in HG I think; in a game when TT was a super good scum and won, so she definitely has a good read of him. If I got the game name right, it was TT first game as scum.

Like wos, scumread ksc tube and yamato, so good chance at least two maybe three mafia in here.

Wary of damdred and chezinu.




Feels a bit more like he's trying to find an alternate wagon to push than trying to identify scum atm.

Fidei not being around all day till 2 hours before EoD is no bueno, but I'll at least wait to see what he's got to pass judgment.

KSC is another possible lynch for me today mostly just because of this which he never responded too.
On August 22 2015 08:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
can we talk about why you're claim alignment cop with a green check in the first place?


I'm kinda ok letting him live though just because he's probably gunna get NK'd if he's telling the truth.

Chez is also an ok lynch since he has done nothing of value, tried to give/get reads, and the only thing of real note is his EoD1 stuff where he was basically broadcasting his role. Might mean more than I know idk anything about the person he rolled.

Those are the people I think should be lynched today. Yamato could also be in this list but is pure policy, but hey he doesn't care about this game so I don't really care what happens to him.


Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 05:42 ritoky wrote:
I would also add ticktock now to the lynchables list.


Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 05:52 Tictock wrote:
How about we all switch to rayn?

Rels is being pushed too easily imo, plus he's doing stuff.

Rayn is suddenly sheeping geript who he said was mafia last night and hasn't given anything solid for his scumread on rels.

Fidei is also a good target imo both for dropping off the whole day, coming back 2 hours before EoD to write a case on the leading wagon, and also the meh town thing on HtS before she got NK'd. Also the stuff he was being scummed for D1.


Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 05:53 Damdred wrote:
On August 24 2015 05:52 Tictock wrote:
How about we all switch to rayn?

Rels is being pushed too easily imo, plus he's doing stuff.

Rayn is suddenly sheeping geript who he said was mafia last night and hasn't given anything solid for his scumread on rels.

Fidei is also a good target imo both for dropping off the whole day, coming back 2 hours before EoD to write a case on the leading wagon, and also the meh town thing on HtS before she got NK'd. Also the stuff he was being scummed for D1.


I like this post honestly.



Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 05:54 ritoky wrote:
On August 24 2015 05:52 Tictock wrote:
How about we all switch to rayn?

Rels is being pushed too easily imo, plus he's doing stuff.

Rayn is suddenly sheeping geript who he said was mafia last night and hasn't given anything solid for his scumread on rels.

Fidei is also a good target imo both for dropping off the whole day, coming back 2 hours before EoD to write a case on the leading wagon, and also the meh town thing on HtS before she got NK'd. Also the stuff he was being scummed for D1.


might take you off the would lynch list and back to a null list


Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 05:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That post is fucking terrible.
Are you all high?

I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
September 03 2015 07:00 GMT
#4171
Honestly if JJ is the last mafia here he can have the win for all I care right now.

At least he is putting in some effort.

Still like Obi is more likely though.

And no Obi I don't have a case, you've just been on the fence all game. I just want to see which side you land on when you get pushed off.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
September 03 2015 07:04 GMT
#4172
I really want to call geript mafia for how much of a shit he is being, but between the green check from FF, the RB from Rit not stopping KP, and the save N1 from KSC's vig shot I just don't see how it's possible.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
September 03 2015 08:39 GMT
#4173
I'm still confused what happened with FF's check on LT.

Obi's ability wouldn't have caused that, or at least FF would have know if Obi had used it on him.

I received a PM notifying me that my role has been downgraded to VT, so FF would have gotten the same PM if Obi had vanillized him.

I'm not sure if that's enough to convince me he's town though.

Ehh I'll act like unvoting him means something, it does to me at least.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
September 03 2015 09:03 GMT
#4174
On September 01 2015 12:46 JudgeJudy wrote:
My lack of thread presence at the deadline wasn't by choice I assure you. Unfortunately I'm at work at that time and to be honest, I'm lucky that I managed to sneak out of a meeting in time to even make it. Look at that on the flip side. I didn't need to show up at that point. I wasn't in the thread so as mafia I could have simply just never moved my vote and nobody would have been the wiser that I was actually around. As for the gif, that takes about 15 seconds. Just type "finger cross gif" in google and bam you've got one

You say that rayn was pretty much for sure getting lynched, but remember the vote was 5-5 before the Rels unvote. With the rate that votes were coming in it was incredibly unclear who would have had the tiebreaker at that point. Tube showed up out of nowhere to try to hammer rels. Out of the five votes on Rels, four were from mafia. They were going all in to save rayn the pgo. My vote ensured that there was no tiebreaker because I hammered rayn. In what world does four mafia all vote one way, only to have the fifth mafia show up and ruin all their plans, not only killing off the pgo, but making the remaining players look absolutely terrible. While I couldn't have predicted Rels would swap to Yam, I could have reacted to it by following him. The vote was cast at the start of :59 so I had most of that minute to decide. I saw the yamato anti-nuke and the self vote, I did a quick count and realized my vote back to yam would lynch Rels who I thought was town so I stayed.

It's kind of silly that you say I've been pretty towny and then pick out the towniest thing I've done all game as the one detractor.


This doesn't really add up when I think about it, it kinda bugged me yesterday but I couldn't quite place why.

The vote was 6-5 with Rayn in the lead right up till KSC switched at :59, that was when the vote got tied back up to 5-5.

I don't believe you had the time to consider all that you say you did, switch to Rayn, and post that Gif all in the span of 1 minuet.

It's true that as mafia you could have just sat by and let things play out which would have resulted in Rels killing himself while keeping your PGO alive, but there is no way for anyone to know that's how things would have gone.

I have to believe that you got out of a meeting, found a computer (phone posting is possible, but leaves even less time for posting the gif) saw KSC unvote (which still left rayn as the lynch) and considered all that you say you did while voting and posting that gif.

Seems much more likely that you saw Rayn was getting lynched and swapped EoD to get towncred.

The whole thing reminds me of what happened with Milo in Holy Guardians. He saw that town was lynching their only blue role that game and un-voted at :59 leaving him open to a possible modkill. It resulted in him getting insane towncred for the rest of the game.

Every time I look back at it I just see an opportunistic vote with 0 thread presence which just reeks of scum to me.

Idk it sounds like most people agree that after I flip that JJ is the next person to consider so I suppose if my paranoia here is justified then I don't have to worry so much about getting mislynched today.

Wish I had better reasons to townread Obi, then I could die happy today.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
September 04 2015 05:43 GMT
#4191
Geript is obviously the person to listen to here, I mean he's been so right all game.

Just lynch me and get this over with.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
September 04 2015 14:51 GMT
#4195
The answer to pretty much all your questions JJ, is yes that's what I thought at the time.

Going into D2-3 I was sorta townreading Tube and LT. Apparently I forgot LT had an anti-nuke, at the time I believe I was thinking Chez mighta been town or w/e 3p he claimed and a trying to lynch him woulda gotten him to possibly be productive LT was more checked out.

I voted FF with the RNG to see if it got reaction, I honestly didn't know nukes existed in mafia till this game.

I don't have a clue how to read Obi. I've seen him in the past 2 of his games where he rolled scum but haven't seen him as town, he probably plays close to the same either way so I don't have a clue how to tell it apart.

I was going to respond earlier, but after geripts post and reviewing my answers I can't imagine it will change anyone's mind.

I'm not sure who is mafia at this point.

Geript's reads are pure shit teir and he's not bothering to reconsider anything, but role-blah-blah-greencheck-blah-RB

I don't even know if Obi has a read on anyone, just that he's ok lynching me.

Damdred will prob show up in a few hours, but he's been clear he townreads the geript and Obi.

JJ your the only one putting effort in today, but clearly you've suddenly decided I could be mafia today when the idea never crossed your mind last phase.

So I'm just hoping that there isn't 2 mafia left in the lot of you and me no longer caring isn't throwing the game, if it is well like I said in an earlier post, I had my fun last cycle.

So since nobody has had the idea to talk about somebody else this phase, lets just get it over with and lynch me ok?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
September 04 2015 23:11 GMT
#4267
Well that sucks, didn't think the game would end with just one mafia left there.

I'll accept w/e blame people want to throw at me.

Though I don't understand how you could believe I'd blow my vote manipulation like that then have no endgame plan if I was mafia.

I've never head of a vote rigger before so I was just flying by the seat of my pants on how to use it. I prob should have tried to talk things over more with Damdred rather than make it a show, but I was having fun and though rit really had a decent shot at being mafia.

And yea, I think what damdred said is true, there didn't look like there was any chance of talking sense into the rest of town that last day. I had no idea that my ability would cause so much paranoia in people.

Well played JJ, you deserved that win far more than town did at that point.

I'm gunna take solace in the fact that my reads weren't half bad most of this game.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
September 04 2015 23:15 GMT
#4270
On September 05 2015 08:12 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 08:10 geript wrote:
Whatever, next fucking themed game I'll just intentionally throw like the rest of town did. Fuck it doesn't matter.

Unless Chez is host right? Cause I have been thinking about hosting one.


I'd cohost
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
September 04 2015 23:16 GMT
#4273
On September 05 2015 08:14 geript wrote:
TT, you just had really bad use of your role. It was you vs JJ and town should've had time to lynch both. However, host ended game early so fuck it.


Yep, but there was no way I was mafia for it. Tunnel was all you man.

You (actually we) shoulda listened to Fidei in that last night phase.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
September 04 2015 23:19 GMT
#4275
On September 05 2015 07:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Tictock.
Seriously.
Fuck you.


Gunna /in any game your in just to call you mafia now for no reason.

Help a brother get a townread next time will ya?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
September 04 2015 23:29 GMT
#4294
On September 05 2015 08:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 08:19 Tictock wrote:
On September 05 2015 07:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Tictock.
Seriously.
Fuck you.


Gunna /in any game your in just to call you mafia now for no reason.

Help a brother get a townread next time will ya?


Nah I'm just gonna blacklist you.
You've developed this nasty tendency to never read anything I write so stay away from me. We're done.


Haters gunna hate
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
September 04 2015 23:33 GMT
#4297
On September 05 2015 08:19 Fidei86 wrote:
@TT desperately trying to pm you from my phone but I can't. Basicall, I think you played okay and I would probably have done the same that you did. Also, do I get props for finally town reading you :-) ?


Thanks buddy.

Sorry I voted you D1 and was kinda on your case D2.

Tbh I only left my vote on you D1 kus I knew you weren't getting lynched and I was pretty sure the ruxx lynch was bad.

Maybe one of these days we'll both learn how to read each other ^.^
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
September 04 2015 23:59 GMT
#4303
On September 05 2015 08:46 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 08:33 Tictock wrote:
On September 05 2015 08:19 Fidei86 wrote:
@TT desperately trying to pm you from my phone but I can't. Basicall, I think you played okay and I would probably have done the same that you did. Also, do I get props for finally town reading you :-) ?


Thanks buddy.

Sorry I voted you D1 and was kinda on your case D2.

Tbh I only left my vote on you D1 kus I knew you weren't getting lynched and I was pretty sure the ruxx lynch was bad.

Maybe one of these days we'll both learn how to read each other ^.^


Maybe if you stop being such a teacher's pet and co-hosting all this games #burial


Behind the scenes view is fun though, also I may want to host my own game(s) someday.

I'll keep dropping into games from time to time.
I can take that responsibility.
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