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Message Blazinghand if you request a ban please ^_^ Also when the game you're sitting out is over! |
I probably could care more than I do right now. I was already torn about the warning bans. So whatever you think is right.
I just really won't host anymore, maybe it's just the community that's bothering me so much. Everything is a fight and everyone is an ass including myself and makes things 50x harder then needed. It just isn't worth it to host to me.
Anyway one last ban request
Request ban to Damdred for 5 games.
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On May 21 2016 05:26 Damdred wrote: I probably could care more than I do right now. I was already torn about the warning bans. So whatever you think is right.
I just really won't host anymore, maybe it's just the community that's bothering me so much. Everything is a fight and everyone is an ass including myself and makes things 50x harder then needed. It just isn't worth it to host to me.
Anyway one last ban request
Request ban to Damdred for 5 games. Request to deny Damdred ban.
ya'll just care a lot and know each other too well.
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On May 21 2016 05:26 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2016 21:11 justanothertownie wrote:On May 20 2016 16:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: Damdred i am a bit puzzled in why you are requesting a ban for self-voting when you yourself allowed self-voting in the game? Is it anti-town? Yes. Against the rules? No. In a same manner you could request a ban to Palmar and sandroba for playing a terrible scumgame. Or to all the townies in LYLO for not posting at all for the first 46 hours or so... None if this changes the fact that it was clearly against their wincon and like I said - if actively working towards your own mislynch isn't playing against your wincon then what could possibly be? What is the point of that rule then? And yeah, you are right. Sandro probably deserves a warning or something too but mostly for inactivity. His play was a disgrace but at least he didn't actively encourage town to kill him. Oh shut up you ass. You know you had me set up for Lylo and that's the only reason you're bitching loudest. I took the appearance of a perfect scum game away from you, boo hoo. Erm, wat? I certainly did not play a perfect scumgame regardless of what you and fazers did. You 2 basically handed me the win without a fight which was nice. I would probably be bitching a lot more had I been town.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
Why don't we leave the personal stuff out, eh guys?
Okay, so I'm going to put this in the OP: "A game is considered to be following the banlist if the host made a good-faith attempt to follow the banlist and the players think that is what is happening."
This seems pretty reasonable and should cover most things. What do we think?
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I think 1) BH sux 2) Spikasaur should be permabanned 3) Damdred pretty cool guy, he asks for warnings and gets denied for a bullshit reason. (but imho I would also not warn)
Not thinking much more atm.
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On May 20 2016 23:16 Damdred wrote: I stick by my earlier request to blazinghand both played against their win conditions slam went as far to admit it in here.
Both cases destroyed town morale and honestly did cause the scum team to win.
And idk why you are up in arms about a warning when I'm not even saying ban them. Not reading
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
Hey guys, we're friends and it's a game. Everyone has opinions but let's not let them get in the way of being civil. Sometimes when life gets you down and people say mean things we have to take the high road and don our thick skins and carry on.
We love each other really and petty disagreements need not get in the way of that.
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My opinion: is a question of intent. I don't think Slam intended fir his team to lose. Case closed.
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Like people play in different ways. You probably report people in League for trying to do dragon instead of push after a teamfighting don't you JAT? <3
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On May 21 2016 07:05 VisceraEyes wrote: Like people play in different ways. You probably report people in League for trying to do dragon instead of push after a teamfighting don't you JAT? <3
![[image loading]](http://choualbox.com/Img/1438712705220.jpg)
Obviously the only valid strategy is to push WITH dragon.
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im diamond 2 now after not playing mafia for the last month, definitely not a coincidence. TL scrubs holding me down elo hell gg
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1v1 me mid
No items
Final destination
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On May 21 2016 07:05 VisceraEyes wrote: Like people play in different ways. You probably report people in League for trying to do dragon instead of push after a teamfighting don't you JAT? <3 No, I don't think I ever reported anyone in any game - but I don't play league ^^
There is different ways of playing and there is doing stuff that can never help your team win. I don't know if your example equals that.
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I'm curious honestly about more in game Punishments rather than things just end in ban list. If x rule is broken slot is declared dead but is unflipped and remains in game can be lynched out but can't do actions etc.
Or maybe they can't just vote for the cycle. I think some creativity that could fuck with the person rather than just modkullibg them or banning them post game would be better to some degree maybe?
Maybe it needs its own thread but I don't even know if it's worth thinking about since you could game it somrwhat
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On May 21 2016 08:59 Damdred wrote: I'm curious honestly about more in game Punishments rather than things just end in ban list. If x rule is broken slot is declared dead but is unflipped and remains in game can be lynched out but can't do actions etc.
Or maybe they can't just vote for the cycle. I think some creativity that could fuck with the person rather than just modkullibg them or banning them post game would be better to some degree maybe?
Maybe it needs its own thread but I don't even know if it's worth thinking about since you could game it somrwhat
I remember there was a host who would modkill people but not flip their slot/ reveal their alignment if they got modkilled for inactivity etc, I forgot which game this was in though
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I've been thinking for awhile that banning is silly. Especially when it was always like Robik or Koshi, they'd get banned constantly and then just come back and it never seemed to matter. Now, someone gets banned and especially if it's a new person they just won't come back. I guess that's ok for any justice seekers but I think it's bad for the community cause it's hard enough to actually fill up a game now.
Banning Fazers may result in him never coming back. And also sends another message to any other newbies who see it and is likely discouraging. Fazer played as little as 10 other people in that game. Him voting himself wasn't what ruined the game. I told Marv to vote me, not a lot different than voting myself. He's not going to vote himself again whether or not you warn or ban him. The incentive to change is outside of this ban list.
I think there has to be another solution. I have a couple ideas, which have holes to be fleshed out but might be worth a try. Why not have a separate "lynch" for people who didn't vote or didn't post the minimum expected posts? So, say on D1 we have players X who doesn't vote, and Y who posts once but votes. So during N1 (or D2) the players can vote to kill X and/or Y. It can be majority, super majority, just town voters, public or PM votes. Maybe those players don't flip for a cycle, or only 1 flips per cycle or something.
Or maybe instead of a "ban" we have probation. Like I cuss out someone and am a total ass during game 1. Well, for game 2, I play in maybe there can be a host initiated kill vote on me. So, I start misbehaving and the host decides it's getting bad (or maybe the players) and then via public/PM vote I can just be killed?
There's got to be something to motivate people to behave if you will and still allow games to continue on. TL Mafia seems to be on the death throws so limiting our playerbase seems counter productive.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
I think this was a discussion of Warnings, anyways, which is pretty much a probation.
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I got banned twice. I played a shitton of games. How am I banned constantly? First time 1 game. The second time I got totally unjustified banned for 3 games. I think we already went over that enough.
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Unlike people like Spikasaur who should have been banned 2/2 games he played. Which is a worse ratio than my 2/50.
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But I like the fact this discussion is starting to go about me.
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