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On August 05 2015 05:10 KelsierSC wrote:
well I don't want to derail this but it was fairly clear from what I said , comments in the obs and the lack of action by BH himself that I wasn't being "exceptionally offensive homophobic" but i'm sorry you let yourself be offended.
This is the kind of thing that really irritates me personally.
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OH SON YOU KNOW I BOOKMARKED THIS POST!!
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On August 05 2015 00:24 Palmar wrote:
I know this is going to fall on deaf ears to a forum full of people who think arguing on the internet is so fun they make a game out of it, but can we please not criticize without suggesting a solution? If you think a system where BH controls the list has flaws, please point out how you'd fix these flaws (commendations to Damdred for doing this).
I assume this was, at least partially, directed at me.
In an ideal world, I would personally prefer something like a ~3 person, community voted, "judgement" council.
In 99% of the cases, it's useless, of course. No one is contesting warnings or even the vast majority of the small bans. But in the rare cases of extremely polarizing ban requests or players, I would rather the decision come down to some kind of group of respected people than any one person's whim. I trusted GM because he was always (at least since I've been here) mostly separated from the games and players and made impartial decisions on w hat was best for TL Mafia in general.
It's not that I have anything against BH. He's been here forever, he's always around, and he obviously has the motivation to do it. I just feel like there might be a better system, and this was kinda just thrown at us without any discussion.
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edit: i obviously misremembered a person.
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I think we should elect me. I promise to be always busy, never around, and decide things based on incredibly weird and uncomprehensible mechanics.
Or blazinghand is fine.
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I still think we should promote Coag instead.
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My first action as ban list admin will be to shut down the ban list.
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I still vote for the overly complicated and extremely bureaucratic multiple level appeals process.
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I still think we should appeal to GMarshal if absolutely necessary over extremely controversial stuff.
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On August 05 2015 09:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I still think we should appeal to GMarshal if absolutely necessary over extremely controversial stuff.
This would work if Gmarsh had the time for it. If you're fine with a latency of between 8 and 12 weeks during which the people involved have no idea what's happening because GMarsh is MIA than go right ahead. But... in these hypothetical cases where TL Mafia is somehow split on whether something is right or wrong and there's literally no way to compromise, you really don't want to wait 8-12 weeks for a response from GM. There is a reason he's not doing this any more, and I am. In any case it will be easy to find compromise. I'm not worried.
I would be very surprised if there is any sort of problem where people disagree with a decision I make, because I'll just make decisions people agree with. 99% of doing this is just saying "ban is approved" for non-descript bans and updating the thread. If it happens that there's something super controversial, we'll deal with it then. I'm not worried. I will alleviate all concerns.
Look, I'm not a magical unicorn or something, but I really think this is going to be a non problem. I handled the past 2 months worth of bans and sitouts already and nobody is complaining about the rulings I made (which were all super bland anyways) so I think we're discussing a non problem. I understand your concerns, but we can deal with it when it comes up. I'm glad to continue this discussion, of course, but it's worth noting people aren't actually complaining about any decision I've made, just hypothetical decisions that I haven't (and won't) make.
In any case, just thought I'd convey my reassurances. I do not anticipate any problems.
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On August 05 2015 09:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I still think we should appeal to GMarshal if absolutely necessary over extremely controversial stuff.
Seeing as GM is too busy, Foolishness might be a better appeal to authority.
Because we really need to give him more work to do <3
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The existing pseudo-government which was not elected by the people and which is not accountable to the people must be replaced by a government recognised by the people, elected by representatives of the workers, soldiers and peasants and held accountable to their representatives.
- stalin
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On August 05 2015 09:18 Coagulation wrote:
My first action as ban list admin will be to shut down the ban list.
I'm disappointed, I figured you'd be more creative than that.
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my second action as ban list admin is to make every host who has ever requested a ban here sit out 1 game per request they made. so basically BH will never play mafia again.
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meh thinking about it I haven't ever seen an outrageously unfair ban.
BH will do fine, change approved.
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i'm just hoping for some juicy banlist drama
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On August 06 2015 10:18 prplhz wrote:
i'm just hoping for some juicy banlist drama
look up
If I am on the council everyone will get assessments like "meh, it doesn't matter! let him cheat! Who cares? It was funny!"
Which is why I won't be
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On August 07 2015 09:02 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 10:18 prplhz wrote:
i'm just hoping for some juicy banlist drama look up If I am on the council everyone will get assessments like " meh, it doesn't matter! let him cheat! Who cares? It was funny! HIJOLE!" Which is why I won't be
fixed that for you, slam.
I am disappoint.
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On August 07 2015 10:09 ShiaoPi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 09:02 Alakaslam wrote:On August 06 2015 10:18 prplhz wrote:
i'm just hoping for some juicy banlist drama look up If I am on the council everyone will get assessments like " meh, it doesn't matter! let him cheat! Who cares? It was funny! HIJOLE!" Which is why I won't be fixed that for you, slam. I am disappoint.
be disappoint all you want, I am now battlecruiser and that matters to me
I just shoot that yellow lazer @ you and it do surprising little damage but I LAST FOREVER :D
(crap. Where are you.)
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