Tropical Storm Mini Mafia

On August 04 2015 22:12 marvellosity wrote:

lower them immediately

On August 10 2015 19:58 Palmar wrote:
Deadline at 2am.

Downside, can't hammer mafia.
Upside, don't have to watch townies being retarded.

On August 11 2015 03:14 Half the Sky wrote:


In Munich the next two weeks, 4am EoD if I replace in. >_<

Too late to stay up, too early to wake up like I did for Titanic 7. With 7/13 players being in Europe, I'm curious to see how town navigate shennanies if they do when a decent chunk are AFK/asleep.

Unless you all are going to do what you did in Imperial and stay up all night.
In that case, wish I were young again hehe...

On August 11 2015 16:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I don't like this approach to be honest. At all.

On August 11 2015 18:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Artanis i lied.

Ruxxars read on Trfel looks kinda similarly simple minded than his read on iGrok in Desert start. However he is somehow.... idk.... restricted (?) here imo. And it still feels like he called trfel mafia just for the sake of calling someone mafia. There is also this one other thing i am not gonna talk about yet.

On August 11 2015 22:28 rsoultin wrote:


this, this, this lol ><

the artie is more articulate than me apparently ^^ not surprising

although kinda not this? sorta this

hrum

more like

hey guys i'm not sure

but no reasons as to why he's not in the read itself? kinda getting the feeling it's just uber nitpicky now, though lol ><

also, damdy, i don't really understand the distinction you're trying to draw :/ my impression of truffle reads are written arguments with himself but uh...okay?

nh...ruxxy isn't happy this game? whyyyyy?

On August 12 2015 00:15 Palmar wrote:
I have decided that I'm rather gonna do nothing today. So see you guys tomorrow.

On August 12 2015 00:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is that so ruxxar?

On August 12 2015 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not get ruxxar thinks there is nothing to talk about as there are contradicting reads to his & between other people.

On August 11 2015 22:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi! I don't like Trfel and my hurricane name is a GIRLS name. Both of those statements make me SOOOOOO angry.

On August 11 2015 22:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi! I don't like Trfel and my hurricane name is a GIRLS name. Both of those statements make me SOOOOOO angry.

On August 12 2015 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Okay so what's Vivax' opinion?

On August 12 2015 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Okay so why are you asking VE and not Vivax?

On August 12 2015 00:55 VisceraEyes wrote:

I really disliked this post about why he's suspicious of Chezinu. Like he sought Damdred's opinion of Chez, and when he didn't bite he gave this as reasoning to dislike Chez. But like...what about this is suspicious? What about being "sensitive" makes Chezinu mafia?

Coupled with his turnaround on rsoultin, which in my opinion is too fast given A) he literally was just fooled by rsoultin and B) she hasn't done a whole lot in the game, and I think he's the most suspicious character in the game.

I don't really know what this means with regard to rsoultin and Chezinu, but I think Trfel is mafia.

##Vote: Trfel

On August 12 2015 01:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ruxxar, you and i have no idea where rsoultin actually stands because the read progression from her on Trfel doesn't really make any sense to me.

Plamar has not posted anything for real, same goes with Hopeless, and deconduo & purplehaze havn't posted anything.
Vivax hasn't mentioned anything other than Artanis so i guess something about his read on Artanis has to do with Trfel, because if he read Trfel as town he should not have a problem with Artanis atm.

So like, it's me and Artanis (maybe rsoul) and Damdred who do read Trfel AS TOWN at this point of the game.
I don't think your question is a good one at this point of the game. If Trfel is town why would scum push him now would be a better question?

On August 12 2015 01:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ruxxar i was talking to VE in the post you quoted.
If you read that (and the thread) properly you would have probably figured that out because of the last paragraph.

On August 12 2015 01:18 Vivax wrote:
I'm also strongly in favour of starting a wagon on Palmar for no particular reason other than that he takes strong pride in his play and only blames himself when he gets lynched, nevertheless calling everybody an idiot who is voting for him.

Day 1 is mostly better for a show than for the reads and a tryharding Palmar is always a good show, and on top of that informative.

On August 12 2015 01:23 Vivax wrote:


I checked the OP. Rules don't state I have to discuss only one guy at a time for the entire day.

On August 12 2015 01:25 Hopeless1der wrote:

This guy read the OP. Top town

On August 12 2015 01:29 Damdred wrote:
I sorta like civax and probably wouldn't lynch him... So I guess you are left with hopeless if you want to sway me

On August 12 2015 01:29 Vivax wrote:
What's up rux?

Can you show teeth when you claim that I didn't discuss artanis enough for your taste instead of slapping my Palmar push as a reason for being suspicious into the thread?

On August 12 2015 01:31 Hopeless1der wrote:

Well now I don't like ruxxar. I'm salty like that.

On August 12 2015 01:36 Vivax wrote:


And I explained why I'm doing what I'm doing for both of your points. So where's the problem? Feels to me like you're trying to find fake reasons to scumread me.

If you want to prove me wrong you have all the input required to show more properly what of that makes me scum, including the explanations for me not pushing Artanis and the explanation for wanting a wagon on Palmar.

On August 12 2015 01:38 Hopeless1der wrote:

So he's given a reason for players to be scummy which applies to two players, one of which he is "pushing" for scum and is apparently ignoring the other. Is that the gist of it?

On August 12 2015 01:38 Hopeless1der wrote:

I like palmar. It'd be funny to lynch him though.

On August 12 2015 01:47 Vivax wrote:


I do, it's the best time killer in the world.

On August 12 2015 01:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I am pretty sure he said he likes Hopeless and not Vivax.

On August 12 2015 01:52 Hopeless1der wrote:

I said it'd be fun to lynch palmar. Who said anything about town?

On August 12 2015 01:56 Damdred wrote:


why? You just said you liked one which one did you like for a moment

On August 12 2015 01:46 Vivax wrote:


My current benchmarks for him are Imperial (mafia) and Guardians (town). Simply put, for him it's indicative if he tryhards or not. If I want him to tryhard or else, he will tryhard, if he's mafia. I want him to feel comfortable doing nothing if he's mafia, cause then I can see if he's mafia.

On August 12 2015 02:02 Vivax wrote:
maybe both :/

You also said one of us is scum, why not both?

On August 12 2015 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ruxxar can you instead try to explain why you say you like one of vivax/hopeless "a bit better" and you think one of them is mafia but you don't know which one and apparently now you don't like either?

On August 12 2015 02:09 Vivax wrote:


I hate the way he plays cause of past experiences, but right now he's the enemy of my enemy so I'm cutting him a big chunk of slack until I know what you are.

I'm still wondering what these random questions are supposed to achieve. Didn't your opinion on me change in our entire convo?

On August 12 2015 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:

which one did you like a bit better?

On August 12 2015 02:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:

because he made a follow up post on Artanis?

On August 12 2015 02:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Impossible because this post:

came after you said "i sorta like one of them more"

On August 12 2015 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
brrrrrr..........
EBWOP:

the post you are referring to in context of "i like one of them better" came before you now say is a reason.

I have to go buy smokes. Then reread. Then decide.

I think we got scum here.

On August 12 2015 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:

okay so you were using an imaginary post to say "Vivax looks a bit better" but now it's not an imaginary post but instead a post that has nothing to do with what had been posted at the time?

On August 12 2015 02:25 Trfel wrote:
RuXxar, why did you share your read on me initially?

On August 12 2015 02:04 ruXxar wrote:


I didn't understand this explanation of artanis.
Can you try again?

On August 12 2015 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:

i posted it already.
i didn't at first too, but the second post was golden (when i switched my vote).

ruxxar answer, every second you take to clarify yourself makes me think you have to find something that fits your story instead of just saying "this is what i did and why".

On August 12 2015 01:08 Vivax wrote:
I prefer not to push Artanis, I'm pretty comfortable with him doing nothing when he doesn't have to.



Being a feels read, your assumption is wrong. Call it a tone read or whatever but when I read Artanis posts they didn't strike me in a townie way, doesn't have anything to do with Trfel.

On August 12 2015 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
nonoonononono..
no.
no.
no.

##unvote
##Vote ruxxar

On August 12 2015 04:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
how about you play the game instead of insulting me?

On August 12 2015 04:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like you have a reasonable defense right?
i can show you are making TWO 100% different conclusions based on the same post.

so, how do you answer?

On August 12 2015 04:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:

You do not mix order of things when you are town based on YOUR actions.
never.

On August 12 2015 04:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:

then i am sorry.
i don't buy it.
you are mafia.

On August 12 2015 04:10 Palmar wrote:

You should be worried about it

On August 12 2015 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ruxxar is there a reason i should call you town at this point?

On August 12 2015 04:23 Vivax wrote:


I don't get how you can be so passive in your actions if you're so sure who scum is. Can you give us a few reads besides me and hopeless? Clearly you townread rayn by now. I'd agree on that.

But I don't know how you were able to say you liked Palmar when he didn't even play and has just been doing the Palmar thingy of not doing anything on purpose? Then you said that you didn't say he's town if I recall correctly.

On top of it you put the conditional that one of me or hopeless is scum but you can't explain why it has to be one.

Then you say you liked somebody's posts while rest of town discussed which of me or hopeless you actually meant (didn't see you eager to drop input on that either).

Then you said you somehow found me better.

You accused me first and then asked questions.

You accused me but didn't pursue it when I dropped stuff for you to pick up on (like me saying I have fun lynching town), you didn't really change your opinion on me in the process of me calling you scum.

Generally in our conversation you lacked adaptation to what we were talking about. It was still all about Palmar and Artanis while not considering the accusations I was bringing against you. They are just as worth of analysis to a townie that isn't mafia, yet not for you, and that's scummy.

General tone of your posts has been to keep it minimalistic, revealing as little as possible while trying to keep the appereance of your original reasoning (me not pushing Art and pushing Palm).

I think this sums up why you are a very viable lynch for today.

On August 12 2015 05:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Rayn, Ruxx is town. Stop tunneling him.

On August 12 2015 01:46 Vivax wrote:


My current benchmarks for him are Imperial (mafia) and Guardians (town). Simply put, for him it's indicative if he tryhards or not. If I want him to tryhard or else, he will tryhard, if he's mafia. I want him to feel comfortable doing nothing if he's mafia, cause then I can see if he's mafia.

On August 12 2015 01:25 Hopeless1der wrote:

This guy read the OP. Top town

On August 12 2015 05:57 deconduo wrote:


?

On August 12 2015 07:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geez ruxxar i thought you think vivax is mafia.

On August 12 2015 08:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am pretty sure i am not.
If not enough because ruxxar's main defense revolves around "lol you so bad rayn" instead of actually attacking the argument.

On August 12 2015 09:11 prplhz wrote:
my thoughts are that i'm not going to read anything anyway because i just tried but i'm too tired to make sense on things

On August 12 2015 23:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:

My case i posted is in fact 50% bullshit just because i just realized i misread one of his posts where he says "a post about artanis" into "artanis' post".

So what he is doing is he is agreeing that i am right when he SHOULD know i am pushing something he hasn't even actually said or done. Like rsoultin, if someone now made a case on you based on "you called rayn town then now you suddenly call him mafia for no reason" would your response be:
1) "i have not called rayn mafia" or,
2) "yeah i did woopiedoo"

????

On August 13 2015 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You notice alot of stuff "later on" and "don't really care to correct people" or "elaborate well".
Like if you think this is anything but ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE town play then you are just [redacted]...
And i do not believe that, so that makes you mafia.

On August 13 2015 00:11 Vivax wrote:


I'll talk to you like you're town for a bit.

That's a question you should be able to answer yourself with knowledge of your alignment and me and rayn being the only ones pushing you atm?

Trfel I think agreed with us on you.

You've been wondering as well in an earlier post how scum would treat you, why are you still unsure?

On August 13 2015 00:53 Vivax wrote:


This doesn't make much sense. First of all, Artanis not using your defense for something doesn't mean anything since it's something he was able to talk about, and that's enough of a reason in itself.

But most importantly, he isn't really pushing anything else, he called hopeless a coinflip and put deconduo into the grey zone. He doesn't have anything strong besides his townread on you.

So I don't understand why he is so townie to you by your own standards.

On August 13 2015 01:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am never going to be mafia in this game ruxxar.

On August 13 2015 01:02 VisceraEyes wrote:

Real quick, who are the people "that know you better"?

On August 13 2015 01:04 Vivax wrote:




So first you wonder whether they're trying to pocket you with a hard defense, showing you are well aware for reasons for mafia to defend you.

Yet when I ask you about Artanis all you can see is a townie motivation to do what he did?

On August 13 2015 01:23 Vivax wrote:
Ruxxar why isn't Damdred among your scumreads?

On August 13 2015 02:11 Vivax wrote:


Let me sum up what you said so far across different posts:

Mafia has nothing to gain from defending you.

Mafia might try to pocket you with that.

You think it's subpar mafia play to defend you.

You believe that mafia is likely to be among those who defend you without pushing something of their own.

Now you argue using "but if x flips town it makes him look bad" when it's an argument nobody is able to use reliably at this point.

I find it impossible at this point to believe anything you say.

On August 13 2015 02:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm gonna go make a nice list post because it feels like we're just regurgitating the whole Ruxxar thing over and over again and I don't want to lynch him so it'd be great to discuss others too.

raynpelikoneet - clear town, detailed evaluations even if I think they're wrong on ruxx, and his early strong townread on me is something I don't think he would've done as mafia.

Trfel - After reading his filter I really don't know. What irks me is that he seems to just be going for the lowest hanging fruit (Chez, Ruxx, Deconduo) and his (presumably) reason to scumread me felt weak and without critical thought, and I have higher expectations than that for Trfel. He's also been inactive for Trfel standards. What makes me reluctant is that tonewise he does feel very much like townTrfel. He feels confident, but not overconfident in his reads in a way that I've come to know of townTrfel.

Rsoultin - Probably town? Some of the uncertainty in her posts feels weird as I'm used to her pushing her thoughts strongly, Rayn had a nice post on it earlier and she's been the same way with Ruxx. On the other hand she's come forth with a bunch of her own opinions and there's plenty of smileys to go around.

Damdred - I currently have no idea. Need more time.

ruXxar - Already detailed.

Palmar - Has given some reads, has not given reasons for them but has been so blatant about that fact that there would basically be no scum motivation to make them, but he's done so little that it's not much to go off.

prplhz - Hasn't done anything.
Deconduo -
VisceraEyes - Despite claiming that I meta'd him (when my points were actually all things I'd generally consider mafia traits) Rayn pointed out that he's done them as town so I'm not left with much. Cockyness suggests town.

Hopeless1der - Useless and doesn't care.

Chezinu - ?????????, he's called out Ruxxar before it was cool (after Vivax, but before Rayn) and discussed the Chezinu rule a bunch. He's made a cryptic post or two but they seem to be more setup related than reads related. Not a clue.

Vivax -

Something that worries me about my own reads is that a lot of it is tone based. Though I'm very confident in the Ruxx one it's much less so on other players. Feedback on any you agree/disagree with is appreciated.

On August 13 2015 03:11 Trfel wrote:
ruXxar
In addition to the many inconsistencies in his play, ruXxar seems unwilling to interact with people and adjust his reads when presented with new information. He doesn't seem at all interested in asking questions to gain information. I don't see him putting effort into this game, pushing his reads, or using critical thinking.

On August 13 2015 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LIKE WHY DO YOU CARE IF YOU THINK I AM TOWN RUXXAR?
jesus christ.... you are really getting on my nerves.

On August 13 2015 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:

your questions are stupid and they do not help the town find mafia so ofc i ignore them.
vote for hopeless if you are town.

On August 13 2015 05:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:

staph plz.

On August 13 2015 04:49 prplhz wrote:
can we randomly lynch someone who isn't hopeless? there are other people in this game

On August 13 2015 05:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I mean I'm okay with lynching prpl too tbh. Either of them is fine. Don't think I want to lynch Decon, sounded too genuine earlier.

On August 13 2015 05:34 rsoultin wrote:


would be more helpful if you actually said who you thought was scum here ruxx -_-

On August 13 2015 05:34 Damdred wrote:


so me and RS are scum right

On August 13 2015 05:34 Damdred wrote:


so me and RS are scum right

On August 13 2015 05:34 rsoultin wrote:


would be more helpful if you actually said who you thought was scum here ruxx -_-

On August 13 2015 05:40 rsoultin wrote:
lol but see

with him they're defending town

and with hopeless they're defending scum

xD

On August 13 2015 05:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:

dude to be honest your shennies on that Vivax post started when i first voted Hopeless so...

On August 13 2015 05:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:

dude to be honest your shennies on that Vivax post started when i first voted Hopeless so...

On August 13 2015 05:43 prplhz wrote:

yes this is actually sort of funny.

On August 13 2015 08:03 Palmar wrote:
Like I don't mind just sheeping rayn who I kinda think is town.

I think my options for this very hands-off day are basically like this

1. Lynch Damdy
2. Sheep rayn

On August 13 2015 19:37 prplhz wrote:
anyway if you're gonna storm me then you should have a majority in the thread and then everybody should storm me to hide our blues

or did i get the storm vote thing wrong?

On August 14 2015 00:00 Damdred wrote:
I won't lie ve is in my poe list currently, but I can see where RS is coming from currently and looking ay chez.

And I do think there is a difference in the votes slightly but there's three votes that look bad to me. But that's just how it is meh.

On August 14 2015 00:07 Damdred wrote:
Trfels is interesting, pro is interesting day but he's been acting towny during the night, ve vote bugs me and will look really bad when hope flips scum and chez vote looks meh but that one just is.

On August 14 2015 00:46 Vivax wrote:
Not sure I can really buy anyone who says he's suspicious of Trfel, looks pretty town to me.

On August 14 2015 01:14 Vivax wrote:
Ruxxar, can you link me the game where trfel was scum? I can't remember actually seeing him play scum.

On August 14 2015 01:26 Damdred wrote:
You are just an ass vivax ruxxar asked me a fucking question and you sit here and berate me? We lost guardians because people couldn't act town and SL shot his scum partner and horrible blue claims.

Whatever I probably won't play mucch I had my pie ready but screw helping this town.

On August 14 2015 01:32 Vivax wrote:


Ask me again during the day, or I might post one before I go to bed but right now I cba to set everything in stone, I still have enough to narrow down.

On August 14 2015 01:47 Damdred wrote:
I'm sure it gets lost in the sea of no time stamps but I voted with maybe a minute to go and it was mainly to avoid getting mod killed or whatever for non voting

On August 14 2015 01:47 Damdred wrote:
I'm sure it gets lost in the sea of no time stamps but I voted with maybe a minute to go and it was mainly to avoid getting mod killed or whatever for non voting

On August 14 2015 02:05 Damdred wrote:
At the time it was prp or trfel for odd votes at that moment I made that pretty clear when RS asked me around lynch.

I probably would of consolidated on hopeless if we had the numbers though at eod.

And no clue I made that clear but it was either a straight bus or town I didn't know which shrug

On August 14 2015 02:25 Damdred wrote:
Like seriously this game is a drag to play but ilat least I've been mostly right so far this game

On August 14 2015 03:03 VisceraEyes wrote:

It's not perfectly legit because my reasoning is in the thread. If you think it's bad reasoning and you think I'm mafia for it that's one thing, but you're discounting any kind of town motivation at all in favor of your retarded "meta" read that isn't even fucking valid anymore.

Like if you keep pushing on me like this I'm going to be FORCED to kill you tomorrow, and neither one of us wants that do we? I know I don't.

On August 14 2015 03:06 VisceraEyes wrote:

Vivax isn't, at least, not based on his push on me. He could just be full of himself and town and horribly terribly wrong. I've seen it MANY times from Vivax.

On August 14 2015 03:08 VisceraEyes wrote:

I'm not rereading if I don't have to, so once I find out if I live through the night or not, I'll reread the thread.

On August 14 2015 03:10 ruXxar wrote:


Your best guess right now?

On August 14 2015 03:12 VisceraEyes wrote:

I'm fine with StormVoting Hopeless for lack of better targets. Trfel looks ever-so-slightly better than he did before based on his tone and activity, though I'll have to reread to know whether his content and timing and shit seems townie or not. Tentatively I'd still throw him in my lynch pile though.

On August 14 2015 03:12 VisceraEyes wrote:

I'm fine with StormVoting Hopeless for lack of better targets. Trfel looks ever-so-slightly better than he did before based on his tone and activity, though I'll have to reread to know whether his content and timing and shit seems townie or not. Tentatively I'd still throw him in my lynch pile though.

On August 14 2015 03:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Chezinu was interested in switching the vote off Decon right before the lynch, off the cuff that looks townie but it could be a play I guess. I'm interested in hearing why rayn wants to lynch Chez.

On August 14 2015 03:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
It means my scumreads pale in comparison to my townreads at this point. That's how I scumhunt, I find townies then narrow down the remainder. After a reread I'll probably have more concrete opinions, but right now I'm just kinda idling.

On August 14 2015 03:20 ruXxar wrote:


Ok let me put it this way then.

Do you think there are scum on the hopeless train or are they all town reads?

On August 14 2015 03:37 rsoultin wrote:


this

i saw what he was talking about, but we weren't enough to lynch hopeless and frankly i wasn't sold on that lynch anyway?

also @ rayn

if that wasn't what you were saying you should have corrected me ages ago. maybe the twenty fucking something times i asked you to clarify? but noooo you'd rather scream and get mad at me and tell me to fuck off -_-

On August 14 2015 03:41 ruXxar wrote:


Why does damdred keep referring to you as if you're a couple?

Same thing when I said earlier than town was scum was deflecting off hopeless and he immediately drew the conclusion that I was scum reading the both of you.

On August 14 2015 03:42 rsoultin wrote:


-_- i dunnae, ruxx

we're both town, though so...i don't really care -_-

On August 14 2015 03:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I am sorry but fuck you.

On August 14 2015 03:45 rsoultin wrote:


okay...see i get what you're saying now and it actually makes more sense than what you were saying before? that the reads had no reasoning behind them. that's not what you were saying before, though lol >< and i did read the first one he mentioned, not the second

one was enough to prove that what i thought you were saying wasn't true @.@

i'm really going to laugh so hard if hopeless is town this game, btw, given all the time we've wasted here ^^

On August 14 2015 05:32 rsoultin wrote:
it's not that i don't get what y'all are saying, or why people could think damdred is scum

it's that if you knew damdy from adam you'd know, you'd have to know, that if he's town this game this is the exact wrong way to go about getting him to show that he's town

just do me a favor and give him room to breathe? if he still hasn't come up with anything by the next phase or two, fine, whatever, can't stop y'all anyway. but at least give him the room to work if he's town. you're just shutting him down by behaving this way, and it's partly his fault for letting it get to him, but it's partly y'all's, too, cause you've played with him enough to know that this is ineffective by now -_-

it's like threatening me to do shit. i'll oppose you out of pure obstinance

On August 14 2015 07:00 rsoultin wrote:
ye not spewing on command ^^ i'm not in the mood to review this game right now and you can just suck it, ruxx

On August 14 2015 07:00 rsoultin wrote:
ye not spewing on command ^^ i'm not in the mood to review this game right now and you can just suck it, ruxx

On August 14 2015 07:10 rsoultin wrote:


nope ^^

if you'd read you'd know that i don't like chez and i'm not sure on palmar, but that's dependent on hopeless' alignment

but you haven't

On August 14 2015 07:11 rsoultin wrote:


i don't care what you want?

On August 14 2015 07:13 rsoultin wrote:


that's your opinion ^^

On August 14 2015 07:20 rsoultin wrote:


me spewing scumreads at you before reevaluating is not helping solve the game ^^ if they weren't good enough for you the first time off the top of my head, they won't be the second time, and frankly i could give a rat's ass what you think the best way to play is

i'm not beholden to you and i don't have to bark on command

On August 14 2015 07:27 rsoultin wrote:


^ for those poor at englishing

to be clear, ruxx, i don't think you're scum, but i have a method and i don't find what you're doing helpful. you can wait

On August 14 2015 03:45 rsoultin wrote:


okay...see i get what you're saying now and it actually makes more sense than what you were saying before? that the reads had no reasoning behind them. that's not what you were saying before, though lol >< and i did read the first one he mentioned, not the second

one was enough to prove that what i thought you were saying wasn't true @.@

i'm really going to laugh so hard if hopeless is town this game, btw, given all the time we've wasted here ^^

On August 14 2015 07:34 Damdred wrote:
Rs won care if you don't town read her... but I'm Dodd fairly confidant she is town,and she gave you her reads irk why you are badgering her like that

On August 14 2015 07:51 rsoultin wrote:


still already already answered

still already haven't reevaluated

still don't give a flying fuck

just like you don't ^^ see the bolded

take your hypocrisy somewhere else

and btw, the point was a whole shit ton of people here are basing their reads off hopeless being scum, so if he is town which i honestly don't think is impossible, we're wasting our time playing scumreads by association

i'm going to chill with someone whose company i enjoy now ^^ ciao

On August 14 2015 08:01 Damdred wrote:
Anyway yeah,

Palmar is town, Rs is town, Ryan town, vivax. These are the people you never lynch into even if some of them act stupid or don't care about the game.

The next people are

Art, ruxx both these people are town but some tinfoil could be made for them,and I might listen. But overall I think they are pretty town.

The next two

VE and prp are a bit harder. Rayn seems to really believe his read and I'm sorta in the mood to believe him since I'm shot at reading 've and Ryan is generally good at it. Prp has looked overthrown tonight s gets a day pass.

Which leaves,me,with chez, hopeless and trfel.

And I like that team a bit

On August 14 2015 08:07 rsoultin wrote:


cause i don't care about hopeless? we're storm voting him ^^

On August 14 2015 08:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also going to bed soonish. Posting latest update of the sheet, think it's useful to keep around to keep track of reads (esp. when people suddenly stop talking about some of their scumreads) so if I die for some reason, use it.

On August 14 2015 14:52 Trfel wrote:
"[G] How to improve your mechanics in SC2" is confirmed town?

On August 14 2015 15:06 Trfel wrote:
Okay, will do.

You bussed Hopeless1der, and didn't actually push him. You're trying to make a big deal about something you did that isn't so significant. The fact that you're drawing attention to yourself when no one else is talking about you suggests that you're overly concerned about your own appearance and don't care about finding scum.

On August 14 2015 15:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So in fact you have zero idea?
Chezinu are you claiming a cop?

On August 14 2015 15:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I want him to say it in english.

On August 14 2015 15:31 Chezinu wrote:
I cannot be the cop. As Mr. Truffle pointed out, if I was the cop and checked him I would have obviously called him mafia. Knowing I had the incorrect read, it is easy to say that I'm not the cop. Plus, I troll checked him. Plz see prior game where I troll check people.

You can't Hurricane kill this.

On August 14 2015 15:43 Chezinu wrote:
Duh Beginning

Trfel (2): Chezinu, VisceraEyes
Hopeless1der (2): raynpelikoneet, rsoultin, ruXxar

them changes

Trfel (2): Chezinu, VisceraEyes
Hopeless1der (2): raynpelikoneet, rsoultin, ruXxar
ruXxar (2): raynpelikoneet, Vivax

the end

Trfel (0): Chezinu, VisceraEyes
Hopeless1der (4): raynpelikoneet, rsoultin, ruXxar, raynpelikoneet,Artanis[Xp], VisceraEyes, Vivax, Palmar
ruXxar (0): raynpelikoneet, Vivax, Vivax, Palmar
VisceraEyes (1): Artanis[XP], deconduo
deconduo (8): VisceraEyes, rsoultin, Artanis[Xp], VisceraEyes, prplhz, Hopeless1der, Palmar, Trfel, Chezinu, Damdred
Damdred (0): Palmar, prplhz, Vivax
Chezinu (0): prplhz

On August 14 2015 15:49 Chezinu wrote:

is that why you killed me?

You guys totally underestimate my <3's for VE...

On August 14 2015 15:50 ruXxar wrote:


2 scum reads.
Plain English.
Go.

On August 14 2015 20:26 Palmar wrote:
did we get a claim for the hero vig who shot that guy?

On August 14 2015 21:59 Palmar wrote:

rofl I saw this post and at the time I thought it was some kind of a weird command to immediately vote him as day breaks. Kinda like storm is used in "storm the gates" or "storm the city".

On August 14 2015 21:40 Vivax wrote:
Is there really a wagon on Chez for doing a "troll check"?