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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 16 2015 22:02 GMT
#2221
I am thinking about it that's why ,I changed the topic.

And no I have caught you as mafia for poor reasoning,before so yeah.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 16 2015 22:04 GMT
#2222
On August 17 2015 07:02 Damdred wrote:
I am thinking about it that's why ,I changed the topic.

And no I have caught you as mafia for poor reasoning,before so yeah.

Poor reasoning =/= townreading someone, posting it in a spreadsheet and pushing them in the same post. Come on man.

As for both mafia townreading Rsoul for bad reasons; Hopeless didn't give any reasons at all, just put her in a townlist. Trfel's last mention of Rsoultin was
On August 14 2015 15:16 Trfel wrote:
Maybe Chezinu, depending on what he does next.

Maybe prplhz, I need to read his filter again tomorrow.

Maybe rsoultin? I've kind of been ignoring her?

I need to take a closer look at what ruXxar's saying.

Artanis is looking a bit better, but I'm still concerned..... Same with Damdred.

I don't really feel like filter diving tonight.


So I wouldn't really say he was townreading her.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 16 2015 22:08 GMT
#2223
Artie, can you explain why Decon is scum due to thread sentiment?

I don't understand the argument.

Why does the fact that people call Decon scum but no train start on him mean that he's scum?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 16 2015 22:12 GMT
#2224
On August 17 2015 07:08 ruXxar wrote:
Artie, can you explain why Decon is scum due to thread sentiment?

I don't understand the argument.

Why does the fact that people call Decon scum but no train start on him mean that he's scum?

Because it's hard for scum to completely fake reads against what they feel is obvious. If someone were scum with Deconduo and sees him post the way he did, they'd probably think they can't possibly defend him so instead they scumread him, but scumread someone else harder and push that person. I feel it's a common way for mafia to play because mafia rarely hard defend eachother. I saw smoke, I figured that smoke = fire. In this case, that was false.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 16 2015 22:15 GMT
#2225
Basically, I felt if he was town either a scum would push the easy target or they'd hard defend him for towncred. Since neither happened, I presumed he was likely to be scum.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 16 2015 22:16 GMT
#2226
And honestly art most of your replies to,me are basically wifom with how you handled the,lynch which is,sorta annoying,to a degree.

I don't get why the same rationale,didn't fit Rux though a lot,of,the thread scum read him and town read rayn and vivax pushed him... it just feels such a a different approach to,similar situations
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 16 2015 22:17 GMT
#2227
On August 17 2015 07:16 Damdred wrote:
And honestly art most of your replies to,me are basically wifom with how you handled the,lynch which is,sorta annoying,to a degree.

I don't get why the same rationale,didn't fit Rux though a lot,of,the thread scum read him and town read rayn and vivax pushed him... it just feels such a a different approach to,similar situations

Perhaps it's wifom, but question yourself if the wifom argument is really worth it vs just not doing it at all. If I were scum and I was planning on pushing Deconduo I could do a lot better than that I did and in a way that wouldn't haunt me as much. That's just a fact really.

People had hard opinions on Rux. People didn't have hard opinions on Dec. That's the main crux here.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
August 16 2015 22:33 GMT
#2228
Latest posts by arty are quite townie.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 16 2015 22:34 GMT
#2229
On August 17 2015 07:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2015 07:08 ruXxar wrote:
Artie, can you explain why Decon is scum due to thread sentiment?

I don't understand the argument.

Why does the fact that people call Decon scum but no train start on him mean that he's scum?

Because it's hard for scum to completely fake reads against what they feel is obvious. If someone were scum with Deconduo and sees him post the way he did, they'd probably think they can't possibly defend him so instead they scumread him, but scumread someone else harder and push that person


Who did the scum team scum read harder and push?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 16 2015 22:36 GMT
#2230
On August 17 2015 07:34 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2015 07:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 17 2015 07:08 ruXxar wrote:
Artie, can you explain why Decon is scum due to thread sentiment?

I don't understand the argument.

Why does the fact that people call Decon scum but no train start on him mean that he's scum?

Because it's hard for scum to completely fake reads against what they feel is obvious. If someone were scum with Deconduo and sees him post the way he did, they'd probably think they can't possibly defend him so instead they scumread him, but scumread someone else harder and push that person


Who did the scum team scum read harder and push?

Well, Hopeless was afk and Trfel pushed RuX.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 16 2015 22:38 GMT
#2231
The mistake I made which Rayn aptly pointed out later was that everyone was too happy to join the Deconduo train once I did start it, whilst some strong town players were still on Hopeless. Had I actually taken a decent look at the vote counts and realized whom was on whom I might've switched to Hopeless.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 16 2015 22:40 GMT
#2232
On August 17 2015 07:33 Vivax wrote:
Latest posts by arty are quite townie.

Please don't try to pocket me now Vivax, I might have to jump into your arms
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 16 2015 22:42 GMT
#2233
Mehhh I 'll think about it art last explanation does,make sense.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 16 2015 22:48 GMT
#2234
You guys should all read trfels filter and see how he interacts with the people. It's quite short.

I'm feeling better about rsoul being town reading it.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 16 2015 22:52 GMT
#2235
On August 17 2015 07:48 ruXxar wrote:
You guys should all read trfels filter and see how he interacts with the people. It's quite short.

I'm feeling better about rsoul being town reading it.

Mm, I already forgot about Trfel's early townread on her. Does feel likely that it isn't scum-scum, meh.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 16 2015 22:54 GMT
#2236
Though the fact that he weakens that off and considers her again later, dunno.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 16 2015 22:59 GMT
#2237
I'm actually considering the option that prplhz is mafia and that they tried desperately to get prplhz lynched over Trfel which is why he acted so poorly at EoN.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 16 2015 23:08 GMT
#2238
Wow, try ctrl-f'ing for Prplhz in Trfel's filter.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 16 2015 23:12 GMT
#2239
On August 17 2015 07:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm actually considering the option that prplhz is mafia and that they tried desperately to get prplhz lynched over Trfel which is why he acted so poorly at EoN.


Like, if I was to look at the currently most scummy person in this game right now it would still be prpl.

The only saving grace was that he switched his vote to trfel, when the vote was between chez and trfel.

He's still conspixously absent from the thread.
I would love to hear his input on the situation.

Also would like him to respond to some if the criticism brought up against him.
There's so much wrong with his day 1 and day 2 play that extremely shady.

I made a lot of points and all he replied with was that he wasn't gonna bother convincing me that he was town.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 16 2015 23:14 GMT
#2240
On August 17 2015 08:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Wow, try ctrl-f'ing for Prplhz in Trfel's filter.


Kinda hard on a phone, but I'll take a look.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
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