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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 03 2015 03:59 GMT
#66
/in =|:3
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 03 2015 20:04 GMT
#72
On August 04 2015 03:23 yamato77 wrote:
I get to lynch iGrok?! Awesome!

BTW dude you should play dota with us.

Can't play Dota, too busy watching TI5
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 05 2015 20:10 GMT
#97
Lynch All Lurkers!

##Vote: rsoultin
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 05 2015 20:11 GMT
#99
Woops, its been a while:

##Vote: rsoultin
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 05 2015 20:14 GMT
#101
On a serious note, I will be pushing to lynch lurkers hard this game. Particularly in mountainous setups, activity is all we have to read you on. You lurk, I'm coming for you.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 05 2015 20:16 GMT
#102
@rayne I have no idea. I can't go far enough back in my history.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 05 2015 20:21 GMT
#106
Excellent. Rayne, you can be my deputy, and together we will clean up this... bridge?
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 05 2015 21:01 GMT
#122
Rayne, I hereby bestow upon you this badge that I made by googling "Deputy Badge" and using the 69th image.

[image loading]

Tina is being an uncooperative witness. Time for some police brutality!
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 05 2015 21:39 GMT
#156
On August 06 2015 06:32 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 05:14 iGrok wrote:
On a serious note, I will be pushing to lynch lurkers hard this game. Particularly in mountainous setups, activity is all we have to read you on. You lurk, I'm coming for you.


Ugh this post.
So much try hard, I get tired just reading it.

#1 scum so far.

##Vote iGrok

Yeah, I get that you're just doing this because you want to look like you have some activity, but at least this is some activity? I don't think you really believe what you said, so I'll let it slide.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 05 2015 21:55 GMT
#180
On August 06 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:40 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:39 iGrok wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:32 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 05:14 iGrok wrote:
On a serious note, I will be pushing to lynch lurkers hard this game. Particularly in mountainous setups, activity is all we have to read you on. You lurk, I'm coming for you.


Ugh this post.
So much try hard, I get tired just reading it.

#1 scum so far.

##Vote iGrok

Yeah, I get that you're just doing this because you want to look like you have some activity, but at least this is some activity? I don't think you really believe what you said, so I'll let it slide.


i actually believe that you are scummiest so far.

npnp, brush it off, you can take it.


you still haven't explained why try harding makes you scum , or what was wrong with the post he made?
what is wrong with his posts all being serious?


it felt like he put too much thought into it and spent too much time writing it.
bolding text and polishing it to make it look real nice as if he was like "yo look at me I'm super town and I'm gonna be like super scum hunter 1000%" <--- town actions town cred GG ez game.

gave me a scum vibe.

My 2-line post came off as having too much effort? Hoo boy, are you in for a treat this game.



Since many of you have not played with me before (and I have not played with many of you), a brief point on my meta:
If I'm scum, I'll fake claim a 3rd Party Neutral Assassinating Survivor, draw multiple vigi hits and medic saves, and ultimately die but set my team up for the win.

If I'm town, I'll approach the game from a mechanics-focused angle, analyzing any and all known information about the game in order to break the setup, or at least make it town favored. On day 2 or 3, I'll write up a hyper-analysis of someone I find scummy, and either convict them or clear them.



This setup is Mountainous, which means no power roles at all. Some might think that this makes it impossible to approach from a mechanics standpoint, but the secret is that, as I said in my OP, Mountainous setups rely entirely on activity between players. There is no reason to lurk to avoid notice as town, because there are no power roles trying to avoid mafia notice. Play loud, play proud, play nice, and we'll all have a good game. Lurk, and you're clearly scum, either as mafia or bad town.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 05 2015 22:05 GMT
#189
On August 06 2015 06:59 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 06:55 iGrok wrote:


This setup is Mountainous, which means no power roles at all. Some might think that this makes it impossible to approach from a mechanics standpoint, but the secret is that, as I said in my OP, Mountainous setups rely entirely on activity between players. There is no reason to lurk to avoid notice as town, because there are no power roles trying to avoid mafia notice. Play loud, play proud, play nice, and we'll all have a good game. Lurk, and you're clearly scum, either as mafia or bad town.


well duh?

never been pr so I dno, i guess you dont want to be top town, but don't think you play that much different just being pr.

Ok, this makes sense, you're pretty new to mafia. I take back what I said about how you couldn't possibly believe what you had said.

Yeah, as a PR you want to avoid getting hit by mafia. As mafia, the best hits are either people saying nothing (they won't be missed and won't give away who the mafia are), or the loudest people (they tend to lead the town and can get mafia lynched). PRs generally want to avoid attention without being consequence-free NKs. Obviously this depends on the PR, but as a general rule its pretty accurate.

Again though, no PRs this game, no reason to lurk, so stay active, interact with people, and we'll have a nice, safe town.

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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 05 2015 22:13 GMT
#202
@rayne, even if he is, he isn't lurking. Right now I still think Tina is an excellent lynch. People who haven't posted at all have the excuse of perhaps not even knowing the game has started.

If there's someone who hasn't posted at all by tomorrow, I'll definitely move to lynch them, but for right now Tina the "active lurker" is the best target.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 05 2015 22:19 GMT
#216
ruXxar, can you please try to consolidate your posts? You've had a triple post on every page since you joined the game. It makes things needlessly difficult to read through, particularly while filters are down.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 05 2015 22:21 GMT
#221
On August 06 2015 07:17 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 07:16 Damdred wrote:
I'm like 89% that ruxxor is town.

Rsoultin I kinda think might be town need more time on that but I wouldn't lynch her today anyway.


igrok igrok talk to me about igrok/ksc

rayn prob town

dunnae bout scott but don't really care right now lol ><


What about myself and KSC?

What are your reasons for finding rayne town?
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 05 2015 22:42 GMT
#259
On August 06 2015 07:24 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 07:21 iGrok wrote:
On August 06 2015 07:17 rsoultin wrote:
On August 06 2015 07:16 Damdred wrote:
I'm like 89% that ruxxor is town.

Rsoultin I kinda think might be town need more time on that but I wouldn't lynch her today anyway.


igrok igrok talk to me about igrok/ksc

rayn prob town

dunnae bout scott but don't really care right now lol ><


What about myself and KSC?

What are your reasons for finding rayne town?


ye, reading is a skill ^^


Sure, lets read through your posts (man I wish I had filters). Paraphrased, emphasis is mine.

1) I will completely ignore this game until tomorrow, or at minimum a few hours
2) Gif.
3) teehee @ damdred
4) I agree that damdred is town, now I will be lazy and disappear.
5) Damdred is totally town.
6) Ruxx probably too.
7) Inside joke with ruxx
8) Fluff
9) I may vote iGrok because he's focused on activity. Now I will "engage lazy!soul mode"
10) iGrok is tunneling an arbitrary thing, which might be scummy, even though the reasoning is sound. Also fluff.
11) Ruxx, lets be townbuds. KSC, you aren't tunneling anyone yet, why not?
12) Fluff
13) More Fluff with Ruxx
14) Ruxx, you post a lot. iGrok, your lectures aren't game-relevant.
15) @Rayne, I think Ruxx is town.
16) @rayne, sarcastic non-answer as to if I'm scum
17) Lol I'm a lurker lynch me
18) igrok talk to me about you & ksc, also rayne is town.
19) Fluff
20) KSC is ignoring me
21) iGrok is mean for telling Ruxx to stop triple posting.
22) I agree with damdred that KSC is too agreeable. I don't like iGrok/KSC
23) rayne is townie because he's probing, KSC is mafia because he isn't aggro
24) @iGrok, Regard post #18, learn to read.

I'll stop here, since this is when I started reading back.



So, after posting multiple times that she is too lazy and will not be in the thread, Tina contributes nothing aside from naked reads, and when pressured by me for reasons, says "lol reading is hard". Reading isn't hard, coming up with reasons for naked reads are. There's nothing supporting your reasoning. You're fluff-posting.

As of right now, Tina is the lynch today. I don't have a read on ruxx, but even if I did, day 1 is 100% lynch lurker, and active lurkers are the worst kind.

##Vote: rsoultin

Rayne, you're my deputy, I know Ruxx is frustrating right now but that's okay, he's actually contributing things, even if they are somewhat spammy.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 05 2015 22:47 GMT
#267
Yeah, she probably is. Bbl, off to dinner. Try to develop something while I'm out.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 06 2015 01:34 GMT
#361
On August 06 2015 08:36 Damdred wrote:
Why would grok be suspect near the end but not suspect near the start for the same thing?

For example I think his reaction to RS is quite bad but you don't even talk about that cake so why does all this make him town now but scum later

I saw that CopCake answered the first part, his answer was pretty good. But unless we have strong mafia reads at the end of Day 1, I'll still want to lynch a lurker because we'll get more information on later days by watching people we think might be scummy but aren't sure about.

My reaction to Tina is pretty strong because claiming to not be in thread, and then being in the thread, is a huge scumtell for most people. You get to have activity to avoid being called a lurker, but you don't contribute much (if anything) to conversation. If you get called out for fluff (by the way, to whoever asked, "Fluff" is a post that has no significant content), you can claim that you were busy and you told the thread that you would be.

Multiple times, Tina said she was lazy and was leaving the game until tomorrow, and then continued to post fluff in thread. This is scummy, fluff is not activity, and for these reasons, Tina is my #1 lynch target at the moment.

##Vote: rsoultin
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 06 2015 01:44 GMT
#363
On August 06 2015 10:39 Damdred wrote:
Actually you are wrong. Rsoultin while saying I'll just afk actually did stuff and poked at you. Which actually isn't scummy its more towny than not and you just don't know how to read RS I think.

And ff is bad, I'm easiest town read in the thread and have been on a rather nice streak nicely. So this angst towards me is a bit meh, and we both know why I expect more from you because I respect your game.

She didn't poke at me, she called me mean a couple times, and called me scum a couple times. That's not poking, there's no pressure there.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 06 2015 01:53 GMT
#366
Rels and EAP get a pass until they post once, or 24 hours have passed. Until then, they have a pseudo-valid excuse of having not started playing yet.

Scott is the only true lurker at the moment. If Tina starts posting actual content, I'll shift onto him. Right now Tina looks very scummy, for the reasons I stated at the top of this page.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 06 2015 08:41 GMT
#418
On August 06 2015 17:35 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters.

I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.

##vote iGrok

I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier.

This post is super scummy. The vote does not make sense with the reasonning.

PLUS, it is the first post of EAP. And he talks about different things, as if he didn't know what to post in his first post:
1 - whining about filters
2 - reads
3 - vote igrok
4 - will no be active
5 - wary of Damdred and Kelsier
Talking about different subjects in his first post is scum indicative, 'cause it means EAP had difficulties entering the thread.

PLUS he does not explain why Damdred and KSC are weird.

PLUS setting up to not be active in a all vanille setup.

Cool, another member of the Town Circle! Nice write-up, EAP is now lurker target #2.

@Rayne, why do you think Tina is townie?
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