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The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
August 01 2015 21:11 GMT
#43
/in?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
August 01 2015 22:11 GMT
#46
Kels too fast. Yeah I can /replace if needed.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
August 05 2015 20:08 GMT
#96
We are all gonna die D=
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
August 06 2015 00:01 GMT
#333
I hate d1. Hate it hate it hate it. And where the hell is the filter button? I'm gonna take another break from TL and they'll get rid of preview next.

Dafuq man. How do you dive without filters? How do you guys even play without filters?!

Also this is my first all vanilla game so I was thinking of ways mechanically to hunt scum. I've got iGrok at a light town lean for wanting to go at lurkers from the start, which was one of the first things I considered. I'm not sure I agree with his RSo read, but I'm trash at treading her, and most ppl, D1. But as someone mentioned, she's threatened to go full lazy lurk mode and still hasn't. Not D1 Lynch.

I'm going to have to reread since no filters and I'm on mobile(I always play mobile, sry) but I remember being ehh on FF. It's too early for an associative read but his reaction to ruxxar felt a bit forced. "Idk I don't like ruxxar" its too noncommittal. Great, I'm not sure I like him either but I'm going to reread and figure out why I do/don't. He seems too bouncy to read clearly.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
August 06 2015 00:06 GMT
#338
Damdred town. Clear clear thought processes and a willingness to revisit a question/topic he already discussed because Cake asked again makes it look like he has nothing to hide.

I don't like Cop feeling it necessary to point out that he's a gem, as well as giving us his own chosen example of his scum meta. It shows he's very weary of his play, and how he looks at himself as scum, and trying to influence us in that direction instead of giving us the opportunity to do so on our own. Unless that is literally his only scumgame on this site.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
August 06 2015 00:08 GMT
#343
Posting as I go, Damdy. That was cursory, now I guess I'm kind of working backwards, idk.

FF magically appears. Did I get the summon spell this game? Wewt.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
August 06 2015 00:09 GMT
#344
Seriously tho, any suggestions for a mobile user to read easier without filters? I'm not sure I would've signed up if I hadnt realized lmao
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
August 06 2015 00:12 GMT
#346
Cop did that. No one really did. I don't expect any better results.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
August 06 2015 16:55 GMT
#637
On August 06 2015 17:37 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 17:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
TheShining - says "I'm going to have to reread since no filters and I'm on mobile(I always play mobile, sry) but I remember being ehh on FF. It's too early for an associative read but his reaction to ruxxar felt a bit forced." In the next post after re-read talks about everything that is not FF or ruxxar.

Wow didn't remark that. That is super true, he didn't follow up what he said he would in his reread.


Welp you guys are geniuses. Look at the timing of when I said I needed to reread and the post you're referring to as "after my reread."

My first post was from my first read through. All the posts after that were only referring to the posts I had missed while I was catching up from my last post and a few reads I felt comfortable posting from the first read through that I didn't include in my first post. And I'm posting as I catch up so inb4 "you reread now, you're posting now, came back to thread, still nothing" I'm getting there.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
August 06 2015 17:00 GMT
#646
On August 06 2015 18:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay i actually think Shining is the best lynch today:
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On August 06 2015 09:01 The Shining wrote:
I hate d1. Hate it hate it hate it. And where the hell is the filter button? I'm gonna take another break from TL and they'll get rid of preview next.

Dafuq man. How do you dive without filters? How do you guys even play without filters?!

Also this is my first all vanilla game so I was thinking of ways mechanically to hunt scum. I've got iGrok at a light town lean for wanting to go at lurkers from the start, which was one of the first things I considered. I'm not sure I agree with his RSo read, but I'm trash at treading her, and most ppl, D1. But as someone mentioned, she's threatened to go full lazy lurk mode and still hasn't. Not D1 Lynch.

I'm going to have to reread since no filters and I'm on mobile(I always play mobile, sry) but I remember being ehh on FF. It's too early for an associative read but his reaction to ruxxar felt a bit forced. "Idk I don't like ruxxar" its too noncommittal. Great, I'm not sure I like him either but I'm going to reread and figure out why I do/don't. He seems too bouncy to read clearly.


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On August 06 2015 09:06 The Shining wrote:
Damdred town. Clear clear thought processes and a willingness to revisit a question/topic he already discussed because Cake asked again makes it look like he has nothing to hide.

I don't like Cop feeling it necessary to point out that he's a gem, as well as giving us his own chosen example of his scum meta. It shows he's very weary of his play, and how he looks at himself as scum, and trying to influence us in that direction instead of giving us the opportunity to do so on our own. Unless that is literally his only scumgame on this site.

He literally says he does not know that to think of FF and ruxxar.
Then he says he has to re-read and instead of doing that he goes to post about something completely different.

Like i get that his posts are 5 minutes apart, but it still doesn't make any sense he feels it's more important to to make another post onto townreads (damdred) and finding out other suspects (cake) when you already have people you suspect. He just leaves his read on FF & ruxxar onto "idk" state when the most logical thing to do is to go and figure out the reads on them.

I believe he just got timid about the fact his post was called out bad and had to post something that would be considered "good".

##unvote
##vote The Shining


ruxxar and edgar still mafia but this is my strongest scumread.


Cool. Lynch town. I don't really want to play without filters, anyway. Thanks for noticing my posts were 5 mins apart, though. I just had the other reads fresh on my mind as well and wanted to post them so that if I brought them up later, my reads wouldn't be "contrived." I always put whatever is on my mind in thread when it's on my mind.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
August 06 2015 17:06 GMT
#651
Meh, I'm cranky, just woke up, and haven't read any posts that have come since I started posting today. As always I'm fighting off a D1 lynch and meh, level of cares = 0. Want my comments on ruxxar and ff? I agree with the active lurking comments, his bounciness and the self-meta'ing is what I pinged Cop on. Ruxxar looks bad for it, too. I could lynch into Ruxxar.

Reading and posting as I go is fun~~~
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
August 06 2015 17:11 GMT
#654
Ohh Edgar posted. Ew. I don't like Rayn just for trying to lynch/scum me(I take it personal) but I do like this:

On August 06 2015 17:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyways this is a game called pick your lynch. Here are the alternatives:

ruxxar - for what me, kelsier and FF have said.

Edgar - says he is at impasse but in the next sentence contradicts himself and votes for iGrok.

TheShining - says "I'm going to have to reread since no filters and I'm on mobile(I always play mobile, sry) but I remember being ehh on FF. It's too early for an associative read but his reaction to ruxxar felt a bit forced." In the next post after re-read talks about everything that is not FF or ruxxar.


Sad. I agree wholeheartedly with one and could lynch into the other. If I wasn't 3rd, I'd have you even higher on my town list than you already are
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
August 06 2015 17:16 GMT
#658
On August 06 2015 20:55 ruXxar wrote:
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On August 06 2015 20:32 Rels wrote:
On August 06 2015 19:16 ruXxar wrote:
Also, just saying we should lynch lurked means that you're putting the whole game down to mechanics and ignoring the rest if the game.

Its pretty dumb imo

OK I actually agree with this, igrok needs to start talking about something else. He promised to do that when he wakes up though.

But I really didn't like how you posted at the beginning of the game. It is super different from last game, where you did your poetry stuff but didn't jump and post a million reads. In this game you spammed and talked about a lot of things and most of them were shitty reads.

What do you think of scott ?
Can you give a list of townie and scummy people ?


Yeah I was very chaotic reading the first few pages, if you think I'm scum for that then I have no defense, because it's what I did.

I liked Scott first post, it felt genuine.
Mm after that Scott attacked me, but I didn't really sense scum intentions.
I've never seen Scott play scum, so have no meta for this.
I still think he's a slight town read.

My 100# town this game is damdred and rsoul.
When I'm posting fluff first day to create activity, it's easy to see who is in the same relaxed, non stressed/tense mindset.

I got that vibe from damdy and rs, don't want to lunch them this game unless they do something super scummy.

Other town reads:

Kelsier I'm ok with for now.
Scott is meh, very slight town.
I think rayn is misguided town on me, wants to find scum
Rels super town, criticizing and asking edgy questions.

Who else..

Fecal is neutral ish, defo not town lean.
Coppy response to pressure was meeh, not so good.
Shining had again big polished post, it's always slight scum lean to me when I see these kinds of polished posts, big content posts.

Igrok is slight scum lean, didn't like his opening post, but could possibly come from town.
His case which is the reason for him voting rsoul is so bad and bullshit I don't even know what to say.
It made me think he's even more scum honestly.

Those are the people I remember right now, off the top of my head.
Maybe I forgot someone, dno.

I'll read more in depth when I can use a computer and read filters etc.


Ehhhh. Still wanna lynch you. You have been aloof, self-meta'ing, then you drop this bomb. Kelsier and Scott reads and even really explained. Why was Cop's response to pressure meh? You call me scummy for dropping a big content, "polished" post in the biggest post I've seen you post thus far...meh.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
August 06 2015 17:19 GMT
#660
On August 06 2015 21:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Shining even failed to realize the game cake quoted was not on TL.
That much for reading the thread.


I already gave my thoughts on self meta and my not wanting to be pushed in a direction that Cop wanted to push us in. I put an immediate block in it in my mind because it's obviously a scum meta that Cop wants me to abide by when reading him/her.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
August 06 2015 17:22 GMT
#663
Not going too indepth in it but I think rsoultin is town, rayn as well. The interaction with them, although tense, seems genuine on both sides and I like that RSo tries to de-escalate while also still explaining her reads and everything rayn is attacking her for. But I don't agree with the ruxxar read...it's mostly based on meta. It's better than nothing but going off of this game, I'm not seeing town motivation in his posts.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
August 06 2015 17:25 GMT
#666
On August 06 2015 22:59 Rels wrote:
OK but you're wrong. Everybody is OK lynching lurker if we don't have better lynches. You stated at the beginning of the game that you would hard push lurkers; good, I agree with that.

Now it's time for you to do something else though. Cause the only person that did less scumhunting than you was yamato. The only thing you did was a case on rsoul paraphrasing all her posts, that didn't convince me. So you are an active lurker right now.

You could start be doing what you said you would when waking up:
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On August 06 2015 18:56 iGrok wrote:
On August 06 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iGrok can you comment on the actual cases in the thread?
Like i get your approach but there is no reason to actually discuss the inactives. Everyone knows what you are saying about inactives and active lurkers.

Care to take on onto what me/Rels have posted in the last couple of pages?

As its 6am, I don't have the mental fortitude to go through other people's cases at the moment, but I'll do that tomorrow. Right now I'm just watching Dota 2 and checking the thread occasionally. Unfortunately, some people still don't seem to understand what active lurkers are (Ruxxar, I'm looking at you).

You and Rels have been talking about things but, as I said, I'm not super mentally sharp right now, so I'll go over it tomorrow. I think I said something about EAP earlier today, and also, iirc Shining hadn't even posted before I left for dinner? Could be wrong on that. The point is, tomorrow I'll go through and reassess everyone to figure out who the lurkeriest lurker is.



I like this post.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
August 06 2015 17:31 GMT
#676
On August 06 2015 23:42 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 23:40 Damdred wrote:
Totally normal honestly

OK. Of course I can only believe you, but as I think you're town it's good.
Plus, if Shining is town and this is false, that means you're mafia and he will say it.


Lol this happens in every game with Damdred. He somehow is one of the only ones who can pick up on my townposts and immediately make me suspicious of him, for knowing I'm town when most want to lynch me lol. But every game this has happened, we've both been town, and Damdred is actually right, so he's still town.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
August 06 2015 17:36 GMT
#683
On August 07 2015 00:26 Rels wrote:
@Shining when you come back:
I would like to have your read on iGrok.


Probably my least sure scumread out of Edgar, ruxxar, igrok. I'm not really seeing scum in anyone else, except maybe Scott, but I'm only suspicious because of activity. I'm on page 27 right now and still haven't caught anything but rayn defending igrok(with good logic, let him play since the pressuring could make him useless) and I still don't see any reads from iGrok outside of RSo. He even had a post regarding the split between LAL and the dissenters but hasn't made a post about any other scumreads. And with him having RSo at only 50% scum as top read, it seems he's very weary of committing to any one way of thinking outside of LAL
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
August 06 2015 17:48 GMT
#696
On August 07 2015 00:59 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 00:56 ruXxar wrote:
5 would lynch today ish in no particular order:

Yamato
Edgar
Igrok
Shining
Fecal feast

Mostly based in feelings, don't remember exactly what they wrote, except that it didn't give me a good town impression.

Mm maybe shining actually posted something nice but don't remember w/e.

Maybe coppy goes on the list but nah, not yet.

This is a list of Lurkers + Me.

But LAL is a bad policy... that you agree with... sometimes... but you think I'm mafia... because I'm pushing to LAL...


Page 28. I'm even less sure on igrok as scum now, this post and the one before it are pretty good. Meh, probably should've just caught up before giving a read.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
August 06 2015 17:56 GMT
#707
On August 07 2015 01:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like do you usually as town say "here is where i am atm, i have to reread to figure out this shit" then just "move on to other stuff"?


I do. I'm low content and I post on mobile, at work. I fear that going back and rereading and addressing what I wanted to in the reread would bury the current live thoughts and reads that I had in my head, so I put them in the thread.
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