Desert Center Mini Mafia

On August 06 2015 06:05 Damdred wrote:
.....i might lurk I might not today, it just depends how the hands of fate turn this game.

Rsoultin why you do this to me

On August 06 2015 06:10 Damdred wrote:
I'm sorry rayn I've had a really rough day today and got bad news so I'm kinda meg.

However I do have a couple town reads for semi-bad reasons

On August 06 2015 06:14 Damdred wrote:
Rayn actually feels towny because he's looking for reasons to put people into town instead of nit picking and slowly trying to tilt players.

Scott feels different from his scum game feels excited and ok to play. As scum he sorta feels angry and not excited which is horrible

On August 06 2015 06:20 Damdred wrote:


well the rayn one isn't horrible its a combination of tone/meta and to early to call things. The Scott one is a bit horrid but it is what it is.

Though usually you would care more about bad reasoning even if I say its bad

On August 06 2015 06:15 rsoultin wrote:
okay i'll share the damdy read of win

town town

now we can both be lazy <3

-fades into the ether-

On August 06 2015 06:32 ruXxar wrote:


Ugh this post.
So much try hard, I get tired just reading it.

#1 scum so far.

##Vote iGrok

On August 06 2015 06:40 ruXxar wrote:


i actually believe that you are scummiest so far.

npnp, brush it off, you can take it.

On August 06 2015 06:48 ruXxar wrote:
another way to put it was liek it was kinda mechanical you know?
sorta lifeless as if he didn't put emotion into it.
just dead facts as if he's not really meaning what he says.

no soul, get what i mean?

yeah i'm crazy i kno

On August 06 2015 07:11 ruXxar wrote:


very good observation +1 point for rayn(it's actually true!)

i came in after the game had 3 pages and just skimmed to the posts and landed on some random ones that i had thoughts about.

On August 06 2015 07:23 rsoultin wrote:


not really

you acting townie, probing

he acting...not angry grr hate stupid, super sharp sarcasm ksc of win who makes me laugh

On August 06 2015 07:27 ruXxar wrote:
i dno how ksc plays town though, we only played mafia together.

ksc how do you play as town?

On August 06 2015 07:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote ruxxar

Here is the thing. He calls out iGrok's post. Okay let's say he thinks it's scummy (which it isn't - it's non-alignment indicative). Then he has random townreads on rsoultin and Damdred (which he should not). Let's still say he somehow manages to have those reads. Then he claims he did not read the thread chronologically (which he should not do if he is town). Okay let's still believe he does that.

Then he has NO FUCKING read on me, on me, who is defending iGrok's (his ONLY scumread) post. No, instead he treats me like a townie with his "hey rayn i wanna help find scum yoyo" post.

dude is mafia.

On August 06 2015 07:38 ruXxar wrote:


k so i looked at yamato's interaction with rayn,

didnt really like the way yamato responded, seemed angry ish.

also looked at your first post ksc, kinda liked it actually, slight townread for u!

On August 06 2015 07:42 iGrok wrote:


Sure, lets read through your posts (man I wish I had filters). Paraphrased, emphasis is mine.

1) I will completely ignore this game until tomorrow, or at minimum a few hours
2) Gif.
3) teehee @ damdred
4) I agree that damdred is town, now I will be lazy and disappear.
5) Damdred is totally town.
6) Ruxx probably too.
7) Inside joke with ruxx
8) Fluff
9) I may vote iGrok because he's focused on activity. Now I will "engage lazy!soul mode"
10) iGrok is tunneling an arbitrary thing, which might be scummy, even though the reasoning is sound. Also fluff.
11) Ruxx, lets be townbuds. KSC, you aren't tunneling anyone yet, why not?
12) Fluff
13) More Fluff with Ruxx
14) Ruxx, you post a lot. iGrok, your lectures aren't game-relevant.
15) @Rayne, I think Ruxx is town.
16) @rayne, sarcastic non-answer as to if I'm scum
17) Lol I'm a lurker lynch me
18) igrok talk to me about you & ksc, also rayne is town.
19) Fluff
20) KSC is ignoring me
21) iGrok is mean for telling Ruxx to stop triple posting.
22) I agree with damdred that KSC is too agreeable. I don't like iGrok/KSC
23) rayne is townie because he's probing, KSC is mafia because he isn't aggro
24) @iGrok, Regard post #18, learn to read.

I'll stop here, since this is when I started reading back.

---

So, after posting multiple times that she is too lazy and will not be in the thread, Tina contributes nothing aside from naked reads, and when pressured by me for reasons, says "lol reading is hard". Reading isn't hard, coming up with reasons for naked reads are. There's nothing supporting your reasoning. You're fluff-posting.

As of right now, Tina is the lynch today. I don't have a read on ruxx, but even if I did, day 1 is 100% lynch lurker, and active lurkers are the worst kind.

##Vote: rsoultin

Rayne, you're my deputy, I know Ruxx is frustrating right now but that's okay, he's actually contributing things, even if they are somewhat spammy.

On August 06 2015 07:51 CopCake wrote:
Oh fuck I believed I had already posted when I went to look which page this game starts.

Sup everyone

Tell me why you are forever towns and I will tell you if I disagree or not.

On August 06 2015 07:52 Damdred wrote:
Kel is actually rising for me, there was this point where I said ok I can see town kel doing this.

On August 06 2015 07:53 CopCake wrote:
Sorry Kelsier, I don't work that way so don't try to make me a captain obvious :p because I know how to play this shit

On August 06 2015 08:19 CopCake wrote:
Like, he knows, I know how to play but I don't get why he felt he needed to tell me what to do.

it looked like

Captain obvious, unecessary post

On August 06 2015 08:22 CopCake wrote:
You have played voice mafia D:< with me and I have expressed and bragged about how cool I am.

On August 06 2015 08:31 CopCake wrote:


I did!!!!

On August 06 2015 08:35 CopCake wrote:
Because that's why I play, I also said that; I dislike to say things twice for silly things that i think are like forever obvious.

rip kelsier

##kelsier

On August 06 2015 08:41 scott31337 wrote:


Are you going to actually do something about it though? I haven't liked much of his posting at all - just like this one of yours.

Damd/Rayn town reads so far.

Not liking

## Fecalfeast / Rsoultin / Ruxxar

##Vote Ruxxar

On August 06 2015 08:53 CopCake wrote:


I don't think he is trying to figure out things with me but trying to fish dumb stuff for me, like asking me for reads when I asked for reads for me, I am new, I know some but I want to read people's opinions on metas and then put my "neutral reads" and check them together.

I am quite a gem, trust me.

On August 06 2015 08:50 scott31337 wrote:


His town read that he seemed to have dropped (I felt genuine in my post) and then says you and rsoul are 100% towns and doesn't even mention rayn, myself, etc. I don't like it.

Rsoul might be town but I see tons of fluff and very little ideas.

FF's post felt like a throw in something and that's it.

You and rayn are having solid thoughts and reads.

I want to look more into Cop, igrok, KSC, etc.

On August 06 2015 09:03 CopCake wrote:


I don't like when people makes captain obvious to me and I don't like how he is saying my first post is bad when I wrote another thing that was catching up etc but didn't get posted, I'm learning to use this site and asking for reads is a way for me to read people and it helps me with my reads in general since I will see things differently as most of you.

It's kinda cheap and annoying what kelsier was doing.

On August 06 2015 09:09 The Shining wrote:
Seriously tho, any suggestions for a mobile user to read easier without filters? I'm not sure I would've signed up if I hadnt realized lmao

On August 06 2015 09:25 CopCake wrote:
But don't let it die

pls tell me why you town and who mafia

On August 06 2015 09:48 KelsierSC wrote:


i dont have mafia yet

I haven't liked scott, FF

still wary of rux tbh. verbal diarrhea doesn't sway me.

On August 07 2015 00:42 Rels wrote:

Alright, my bad then.

On August 07 2015 01:32 CopCake wrote:


Ok I finally found it

It's annoying, because the only person who dared to talk to me but was being like, a little of an ass was kelsier, the only one who knows my town play is rayn, I have played voice with some people from here (yamato, kelsier, damnred once and i have seen ruxar) and rsoultin has seen me as mafia.

I am PRETTY GOOD with mechanics and with people's intentions, I don't buy shit like "omg this person look so town" stuff, specially in a site where I don't know people, so that's why I ask for reads of people, so I can see if I agree or not because you have more info of meta, I'll give info of intentions or how something doesn't add up.

For example, I think Igrok post was townie at first, have people to be active and lynch lurkers, I didn't see it the same way rayn did tho, it was early in the game so it didn't look like a scum move to me

BUT

The fact now he was kinda inactive is alarming, is like he is doing what people is asking them not to do.

Same goes with:
2. Yamato77
3. TheShining
4. EdgarAllenPoE

But from those I like the shining, I mean I loved how he approeached if I was trying to say that showing you my scum game was to missguide people, that is a very town mind set.

On August 07 2015 01:50 CopCake wrote:



I think it looked townie, he saw it the other way around.

Also igrok, when i was active yesterday you werent active and you havent posted like ALOT

but either way, breakfast and showers for reals now <_<

I will be all yours after that and going to the bank <3

On August 07 2015 01:55 ruXxar wrote:


i really want yamato to come back, i want to know what he thinks of igrok

On August 07 2015 01:59 rsoultin wrote:


ask

i'll work with you ^^ see, i can be nice?

On August 07 2015 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kelsier why do you dislike Cake?

On August 07 2015 03:17 CopCake wrote:
Ok Kelsier

I am not your "normal mafia" player, deal with it.

On May 10 2015 11:16 KelsierSC wrote:


no one got time for that, just look at the game so far and give your thoughts or just make a better post.

On August 07 2015 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:

in fact i am prettys ure this was not her entry post.
even if it is, why is it scummy?

On August 06 2015 07:51 CopCake wrote:
Oh fuck I believed I had already posted when I went to look which page this game starts.

Sup everyone

Tell me why you are forever towns and I will tell you if I disagree or not.

On August 07 2015 03:40 ruXxar wrote:


Wrong, her entry post was this:

On August 07 2015 03:41 ruXxar wrote:


sneaky rayn, I've seen this post before

On August 07 2015 03:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:

because it is based on the difference on playstyles.
you have around ~50 posts from her, yet this is the one you call out.
is there really nothing else to call her scum for?

is there nothing else to call anyone scum for? why do you focus on this instead of other things?
i mean, if this is your only reason to call someone MOST LIKELY mafia, then you are either wrong or scum.

On August 06 2015 08:41 scott31337 wrote:


Are you going to actually do something about it though? I haven't liked much of his posting at all - just like this one of yours.

Damd/Rayn town reads so far.

Not liking

## Fecalfeast / Rsoultin / Ruxxar

##Vote Ruxxar

On August 06 2015 08:43 scott31337 wrote:


Is this because you have TMI?

On August 07 2015 00:54 KelsierSC wrote:


You're not bad I asked Scott the same thing

To me it looks like an attempt to jump on ruxx , rux has a town lean on Scott from his first post. Now because rux doesn't have Scott explicitly town every time he mentions someone else could be town that makes him suspect?
Bull shit reasoning.

On August 07 2015 01:07 scott31337 wrote:


This post is pretty bad. I'm working without them as well - it kind of sucks, but.. You can always get TL+

FF has looked better, describing his Ruxxar read in so my words.
KSC has looked slightly better - he gets a slight lean.



My townies are townreading Rsoul though - a pass today for sure when EAP and Ruxxar look a lot worse.

I have more pages to go thru and work as well.

That's right I have to revote
##Vote: Ruxxar

On August 07 2015 04:51 CopCake wrote:
I disagree with kelsier, he is like 80% scum, he is tunneling me for like shitty reasons instead of trying to find scum.

It's like, look this is some new person that is scum because she doesn't do shit or knows how to do shit and her entry post is bad and stuff.

On August 07 2015 06:34 ruXxar wrote:
What is scott like when he plays scum?

On August 08 2015 00:31 ruXxar wrote:


I liked his rebuttal against rsoultin because it makes sense.

rsoultin shouldn't try to lynch people that agree with her opinion.
If she's confident in her ability to find scum, then she shouldnt want to lynch those that agree with her because they're helping her push through her lynches.

So what if it's a bus? a dead mafia is a dead mafia, bus or no bus.

On August 08 2015 00:44 ruXxar wrote:


It's not warranting a town-read that they sheep you without a reason, but i'd let them live if they help me push my stronger scum reads.
Also, sometimes people like your opinions and agree with them. doesn't mean they're scum for that.

On August 08 2015 03:08 ruXxar wrote:


Kelsier if you had to pick to lynch 1 of Igrok, eddgar and yamato, who would you lynch?

On August 08 2015 03:14 ruXxar wrote:


Ok, to help you along here's what I want you to do:

pose questions to yamato and edgar that would help you determine their alignments.

On August 08 2015 03:17 ruXxar wrote:


NOPE.

If you are town you WANT to know who to vote for today so you better put in some work my friend.

On August 08 2015 03:18 yamato77 wrote:
So kelsier, am I insane here?

Is ruxxar mafia or just actually a fucking idiot?

On August 08 2015 03:31 yamato77 wrote:

I don't like his read but wrong =/= mafia.

What are people's issues with him, exactly?

I get the low activity thing but that's just a meh thing

On August 08 2015 03:37 yamato77 wrote:

Is this the case?

I mean, saying you're not going to be around makes no one mafia.

But yes, I don't like the one-off mentions of damdred and Kels that he doesn't follow up on.

On August 08 2015 03:40 yamato77 wrote:

edgar never mentions damdred or kels again in his filter

On August 08 2015 03:43 yamato77 wrote:

Does it say anything different from what I understand here?

I mean, there's no way to make a meta-evaluation of edgar because he's a smurf. Based on his play he's entirely lynchable given his single-minded focus and poor reaction to pressure.

On August 08 2015 03:08 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:


This is exactly what my first post says and what I think, yes. Every game that I have seen Ruxxar in he was quite happy to bus his team anyway and so I simply did not discount that they could be both mafia together since independently they were scummy.

On August 08 2015 03:44 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
I also feel that your reads on Kelsier are misplaced. He seems antagonistic and aloof and he seems to forget things that occur in the thread. He takes stances but he has no drive which I am used to from him.

Can somebody explain why they think otherwise?

On August 07 2015 06:21 KelsierSC wrote:
I'd def like a scott lynch



first contribution. has people he doesn't like with no reasons, says he doesn't like FF for a throw away comment on ruxar? even though scott also thinks ruxxar is scum and gives no explanation at this point.



the whole ruxxar being scum feels very much like opportunistic play and just going with the thread at the time.

Then he gives the explanation of his scum read on ruxxar . I already gave my thoughts on this.





takes a bit of time to poke at EAP and then continues the ruxxar hate.

random throwaway comments about me and FF but no additional input on anything ruxxar has done.

##Vote scott31337

On August 07 2015 14:17 scott31337 wrote:
My work installed a new firewall and TL is blocked. :/ I'm sad - but I'll have plenty of time to play this weekend. I'm 20 pages behind and have to get up in six hours.

On August 08 2015 04:15 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
Can somebody link a collection of Scott's post into a spoiler for me?

On August 08 2015 04:37 CopCake wrote:
what do you mean with familiar rsoultin?

On August 08 2015 04:42 yamato77 wrote:

shouldn't you be happy people are sheeping your case...?

On August 09 2015 01:48 Alakaslam wrote:
This game is officially done.

yamato77
CopCake
KelsierSC

Thank you for putting up with being scum. Special kudos to CopCake who seems to have been universally townread.

Everyone else plus those three, thank you for playing and my apologies for being gone, starting hastily, not choosing my own deadline (if it had been 19:00 P?T then none of this would have happened), and then taking everything personally and spouting those views publicly.

Starting a game can make you feel like it's your child. (It is your brainchild after all) I felt that way, and got emotional when I found out it got hurt when I was separated from it when it needed me.

In that emotional state, I took everything hard and as a dig at me.

Holyflare's only issue was using blue. If he had bold greened every one of those posts, I would have taken issue with the "hosts don't even know their own deadline" remark and the "you are to format your votes properly" remark and then basically been fine with it.

Some people are a bit more vocal than others, and I get that. Therefore I will not mention this in the ban list until I have had some time to think it over from everyone's perspective.

On August 09 2015 03:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
This game was fun to read for the first day but things got really out of hand...

I agree with scott and Holyflare in that people should really calm down and cut out the ad hom stuff. TL Mafia should be a fun game to play about wits and should not really make anyone too emotional. If everyone cuts ad hom stuff and listen to each other then we should all be okay. I know I'm probably the last person to say this, but I realize the importance of it now.

I can give my thoughts on each player but I'm more than happy to just let this game die.

On August 09 2015 13:07 yamato77 wrote:
I am thoroughly depressed by this game.