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nh
i have a hard time...how to phrase this?
words like "dichotomy", "impasse", "applaud", "cite", "validate", "appease", "formulaic"
i see words like this and they make me think that either he is quite intelligent but still drawing conclusions that should be obviously awful to people of the intelligence he's trying to project
or he's prettying up his posts to seem more reasonable by using words like these
there's a chance he's town trying to play up his intelligence by using big words, but why? what's he actually saying or pushing with it?
dunnae
it makes me itchy. the pieces don't match. not sure how to explain this any better @.@
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On August 08 2015 00:31 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 22:41 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay now i gtg.
see you guys on sunday and occasionally before
lynch edgar, or yamato. ye i'm still onboard with this @ruxx what exactly is good about edgar's posting? I liked his rebuttal against rsoultin because it makes sense. rsoultin shouldn't try to lynch people that agree with her opinion. If she's confident in her ability to find scum, then she shouldnt want to lynch those that agree with her because they're helping her push through her lynches. So what if it's a bus? a dead mafia is a dead mafia, bus or no bus.
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this does not make sense ruxx -_-
have you ever as scum agreed with another player? even on a scumread on your teammate? we both know you have
not to mention i've made it clear i'm not sure that grok is scum...his obstinance puzzles me. it's so bad i'm not sure scum would even hold on to it this long -_-
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On August 08 2015 00:34 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2015 00:00 rsoultin wrote:
nh
i have a hard time...how to phrase this?
words like "dichotomy", "impasse", "applaud", "cite", "validate", "appease", "formulaic"
i see words like this and they make me think that either he is quite intelligent but still drawing conclusions that should be obviously awful to people of the intelligence he's trying to project
or he's prettying up his posts to seem more reasonable by using words like these
there's a chance he's town trying to play up his intelligence by using big words, but why? what's he actually saying or pushing with it?
dunnae
it makes me itchy. the pieces don't match. not sure how to explain this any better @.@ he's a smurf. does his style remind you of someone you know?
dichotomy is not a common word and i know i've seen it somewhere before, but i can't place who
i'm not terribly interested in smurf hunting...i tend to figure out smurfs just by playing with them because i'm a tonereader anyway but it's not something i go out of my way to uncover
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On August 08 2015 00:47 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2015 00:39 rsoultin wrote:On August 08 2015 00:31 ruXxar wrote:On August 07 2015 22:41 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay now i gtg.
see you guys on sunday and occasionally before
lynch edgar, or yamato. ye i'm still onboard with this @ruxx what exactly is good about edgar's posting? I liked his rebuttal against rsoultin because it makes sense. rsoultin shouldn't try to lynch people that agree with her opinion. If she's confident in her ability to find scum, then she shouldnt want to lynch those that agree with her because they're helping her push through her lynches. So what if it's a bus? a dead mafia is a dead mafia, bus or no bus. ... this does not make sense ruxx -_- have you ever as scum agreed with another player? even on a scumread on your teammate? we both know you have not to mention i've made it clear i'm not sure that grok is scum...his obstinance puzzles me. it's so bad i'm not sure scum would even hold on to it this long -_- Mm, yeah that's where my doubts come in, because I don't feel like you were actually hard scum-reading igrok, so edgars argument falls a bit apart i suppose? It's like he agreed with your opinion, but you werent pushing for an igrok lynch so it doesn't really work out in his favor too much.
i thought he was weird and i was trying to clear up any miscommunication if there was any. i didn't like his approach. and i agree with damdy that his subsequent poofedness (lol yay |o/ for made up words ^^) doesn't look good at all given his lal policy thingamajig
but i never even voted him and people paying attention would notice how i kept trying to get him to talk to me or talk about other reads so i could get a read on him -shrugs-
even if i was balls to the wall lynch igrok, though, that doesn't make his argument good. i might ignore him for the day phase as you said, but it wouldn't make me townread him by any stretch lol ><
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no
he said what we said
then he came back and said what rayn said
i dare you to find an original thought in his posts ^^
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On August 08 2015 00:57 Damdred wrote:
Idk something just feels off to me I guess but I can't quantify it
off about what damdy?
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lol well
tbf
as i said, the vote was related to a joke? the rest i take no issue with
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the rest of your read, ruxx. don't ask ridiculous questions. yama has been on my lynch list most of the day phase
i already mentioned that i said in ts before this game started that no one lynches me d1 lol >< he said he accepted the challenge...and made reference to it in the post where he voted me
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On August 07 2015 09:05 rsoultin wrote:
eh, yama was referencing a joke where i challenged him to lynch me d1 lol...i said that no one lynches me d1 (rayn excepted of course >> fuck rayn)
but yeah...i'm not concerned about that vote unless he demonstrates it's serious?
if yama's scum it's for not playing at all despite having the time to, not the vote on me
why should i be concerned about the vote, ruxx? it's nai
is there some reason you take issue with me saying i think yama's scum but don't care about the vote?
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yeah i'm not going to argue with you over this ruxx lol ><
we both think he's scum for almost identical reasons and this argument is pointless
if you want me to change my vote, convince me (or enough other people) that edgar could be town. i'm assuming that's the real purpose behind your aggression xP
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lol ruxx ^^
damdy, try to explain your gut to me? i know it might be hard but i'll probably get it if you try
^ in all honesty, damdy being unsure does give me pause
i may end up shifting to yama for that reason alone, but yeah...really do want to get him to try to articulate it for me, cause i'm having trouble seeing town in edgar
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On August 08 2015 01:56 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2015 00:41 rsoultin wrote:On August 08 2015 00:34 ruXxar wrote:On August 08 2015 00:00 rsoultin wrote:
nh
i have a hard time...how to phrase this?
words like "dichotomy", "impasse", "applaud", "cite", "validate", "appease", "formulaic"
i see words like this and they make me think that either he is quite intelligent but still drawing conclusions that should be obviously awful to people of the intelligence he's trying to project
or he's prettying up his posts to seem more reasonable by using words like these
there's a chance he's town trying to play up his intelligence by using big words, but why? what's he actually saying or pushing with it?
dunnae
it makes me itchy. the pieces don't match. not sure how to explain this any better @.@ he's a smurf. does his style remind you of someone you know? dichotomy is not a common word and i know i've seen it somewhere before, but i can't place who i'm not terribly interested in smurf hunting...i tend to figure out smurfs just by playing with them because i'm a tonereader anyway but it's not something i go out of my way to uncover Simple tl search suggests Marv or vivax. For the "I've read dichotomy recently", GB used it in an answer to you in hts game.
gb used it o.0 lol well that's definitely not a gb smurf
it's not marv i don't think
could be viva but if it's viva that's actually support for his being scum, not evidence against
ruxx...none of that really makes him town
1. agreeing with you while suspecting you is eh
2. i push back as mafia when being scumread
3. if you don't notice the difference between sandwiching his vote between two excuses and disappearing...and me saying i'm not gonna play and doing it anyway, i don't know what to say, ruxx
4. flatout wrong. i'd made it well before he ever posted
5. he explained rayn's questioning
ye that's not a town case
the lack of push back from anyone i find questionable, though, makes me feel like the edgar lynch may be too easy. is that what you're referring to, damdy?
you can blame me for last night, kyle, but you can't blame me for the whole day phase ^^
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silencio, padawan
i know your angle and your desire; you don't need to keep screaming it lol ><
nh
reads yama andale
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##unvote
his read is essentially parroting
- mine
- ruxx's
- rayn's
and then...ye
he apparently has no other reads
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just soft-pushing me for not liking him when he stole my read lol ><
apparently stealing my read makes people conf!town in his mind
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On August 08 2015 03:37 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 18:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like the fact that he said he doesn't know what to think and then he votes for iGrok in the next sentence is pure mafia. This post is also an extremely flagrant attempt to discredit what my original post said completely. At no point did I not know what to think. I was having an external monologue to display what I thought about the Ruxxar and iGroK predicament and to display my cursory attempts at a brief read through of the thread (It is not, as Rels said, "A post that took a long time to think of").
Then there is this post: + Show Spoiler +On August 07 2015 22:24 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 16:17 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:On August 07 2015 08:08 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 07:38 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:On August 07 2015 04:09 rsoultin wrote:On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters.
I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.
##vote iGrok
I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier. this is a general sheeple post yes i agree with rayn that it's awkward wording, "impasse" but you vote on grok why do you single me out, since we're asking why questions today? you managed to sheeple the opinion of ruxx who you're also wary of, didn't present a read on me, cited reasons: coatchingesque <- my read, and bad case <- ruxx's read...but didn't go into how that made him scum? hint: bad cases don't make people scum how as his case bad? what was coatchingesque and how does that make him scum? and you also incorporated two excuses into your one and only post 1. don't blame you for being awful cause no filters 2. not going to be active I applaud you for being able to summarise my post with a longer word count than the original post but this does not answer my question in the slightest and I honestly do not know how you think it does. If you town read ruxxar and the first post I made in this game is sheeping both your town read's reasons and your own then how do I end up as your top scum read. Furthermore, you cite that I put inactivity excuses into my "one and only post" but then that entirely validates the excuse when it's my only post, yet, you treat Yamato who actually has no excuses for being afk and in fact said he'd play as a "meh, dunno he's probably at work" read. The difference between those two reads in the original post I quoted is quite astonishing. okay, let's try this again how is igrok's case bad? what was "coatchingesque" and how does that make him scum? and, again...i love repeating myself...just because you parrot ruxxy and myself doesn't give you a free town pass. it means you can parrot. whoopdeedoo yamato is right there with you in my preferred lynch club answer the questions I don't know if there is somehow a breakdown in English which you quite clearly can read but how does any of that answer my question at all? You have simply repeated questions towards me that are irrelevant since you and ruxxar are the people I was "parroting". I will make this as plain and simple as I can for you. Since my post is just a parrot of YOUR points and your town read's points, why am I your top mafia read? On August 07 2015 01:14 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 01:10 iGrok wrote:
Ok, so you're saying, "Do you find it interesting that RS has the same read of TS as you?"
I don't really, because RS's reads seem to be mostly sheeped off other people. which ones? some of them i'm pretty certain i made first, and regardless, how does it make me scum to have the same reads as others? is my reasoning the same as theirs? Apparently you think having the same reads and sheeping does not make people mafia so why is it different for me? Furthermore, why am I the top of your scum reads when all I've done is parrot you but Yamato isn't when you say he's playing exactly like his mafia meta? There is a breakdown in thought process here and it looks like you were just happy to jump onto a mislynch wagon. ... you are basically asserting two things: 1. mafia cannot use other people's reasons that they've read in the thread to make reads - do i really have to explain how this isn't true? 2. i should townread anyone who has the same opinions i do - uhhhh, no. i can be wrong. mafia can buss your line of thinking is bad. your push/argumentation in this direction is irrelevant, because you keep repeating that i should for whatever reason not be scumreading you based on these two false! assertions i did not spell it out because i generally assume (especially given the pretty, long words you've been using) that people aren't morons until proven otherwise. if you're halfway intelligent you should already get what i'm saying
i do not find it townie for someone's one and only post to express that much uncertainty while blatantly sheeping not just a read but the exact reasons for a read you proceeded to do it again with your pretty "false dichotomies" bit, which focused in on rayn's questioning of igrok's reasoning the next time i have seen nothing original from you except for the assertions toward me that i highlighted above where you keep insisting that i should be townreading you and somehow miss that yamato is my second preferred lynch...you are acting like i'm townreading him lol >< which is clearly not the case i asked you the questions because you parroted ruxxar and myself and i want you to explain: 1. why the case that you said was bad is bad 2. what exactly he said was "coatchingesque" and why that makes him scum because i want to see if you actually believe these things. i want to know your thought process when you made these blanket statements to see if they're anything but just blatant plagiarism it's amazing that you don't understand what the problem is and that you keep dodging something this simple to answer. you said the words. why can't you elaborate? I never mentioned that mafia could not do those things, that is a fallacy that I pointed out from YOUR own thinking here: Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 01:14 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 01:10 iGrok wrote:
Ok, so you're saying, "Do you find it interesting that RS has the same read of TS as you?"
I don't really, because RS's reads seem to be mostly sheeped off other people. which ones? some of them i'm pretty certain i made first, and regardless, how does it make me scum to have the same reads as others? is my reasoning the same as theirs? Your post is extremely poignant to this situation because: A) You use this argument for your own defence. B) You then use this same logical fallacy to paint my posting in a negative light to your own benefit. Your second point is extremely incongruous with what a town thought process should be. In most cases people that are using your own reads and acknowledging those points are not their own are overwhelmingly likely to be town. Furthermore, in no instance have you EVER elaborated (still after my repeated questioning) why I am your top scum read. Your second point references my qualm but instead of stating why you actually think I am mafia you try and bypass the whole quesion, yet again. You state that mafia "can" bus but how does this relate to why I am mafia in the slightest? You also state that I must be intelligent because of X, Y, Z but then ask me entirely redundant questions which, if you were town, would absolutely know would lead nowhere but a circular argument. What do you expect me to answer because it would be more than simple to just find where you mention "cheerleading" and "coaching" and just reference those points to appease you. If you are going to say that your mafia read is in that post where you mention my "uncertainty" can you show me where exactly I am uncertain of anything in the slightest? That is also, just like Raynpelikoneet, a gross misrepresentation of my post. I thought they were both capable of being mafia and any uncertainty was purely to hedge bets and vote for the "most" mafiaesque player.
To close this piece, I think what you have been doing (I'm not particularly sure you have actually done anything) is leading the town nowhere when normally I think you would be much more forward in getting scum reads out of the active people instead of falling back to a Yamato and myself scum team read, ESPECIALLY when you have TL+ and have access to filters. I think you are likely mafia too.
excuse you
i have actual fucking reads and original thoughts. you do not. we're not comparable, and trying to intimate that we are is ludicrous
wham bam thank you ma'am
-drops mic-
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On August 08 2015 03:41 CopCake wrote:
Yamatto i go by facts but ok, fair enough with your answer, i voted you yesterday because you were like "omg im going to post tons" but you didn't gave shit nor posted at all, and rayn said you hate to be mafia and you avoid posting when you rol that.
tbf
we did start watching a movie right after he said that and he maaaaay have been drunk and i maaaay have distracted him for a bit >> lol
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On August 08 2015 03:42 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2015 03:40 rsoultin wrote:On August 08 2015 03:37 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:On August 07 2015 18:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like the fact that he said he doesn't know what to think and then he votes for iGrok in the next sentence is pure mafia. This post is also an extremely flagrant attempt to discredit what my original post said completely. At no point did I not know what to think. I was having an external monologue to display what I thought about the Ruxxar and iGroK predicament and to display my cursory attempts at a brief read through of the thread (It is not, as Rels said, "A post that took a long time to think of").
Then there is this post: + Show Spoiler +On August 07 2015 22:24 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 16:17 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:On August 07 2015 08:08 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 07:38 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:On August 07 2015 04:09 rsoultin wrote:On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters.
I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.
##vote iGrok
I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier. this is a general sheeple post yes i agree with rayn that it's awkward wording, "impasse" but you vote on grok why do you single me out, since we're asking why questions today? you managed to sheeple the opinion of ruxx who you're also wary of, didn't present a read on me, cited reasons: coatchingesque <- my read, and bad case <- ruxx's read...but didn't go into how that made him scum? hint: bad cases don't make people scum how as his case bad? what was coatchingesque and how does that make him scum? and you also incorporated two excuses into your one and only post 1. don't blame you for being awful cause no filters 2. not going to be active I applaud you for being able to summarise my post with a longer word count than the original post but this does not answer my question in the slightest and I honestly do not know how you think it does. If you town read ruxxar and the first post I made in this game is sheeping both your town read's reasons and your own then how do I end up as your top scum read. Furthermore, you cite that I put inactivity excuses into my "one and only post" but then that entirely validates the excuse when it's my only post, yet, you treat Yamato who actually has no excuses for being afk and in fact said he'd play as a "meh, dunno he's probably at work" read. The difference between those two reads in the original post I quoted is quite astonishing. okay, let's try this again how is igrok's case bad? what was "coatchingesque" and how does that make him scum? and, again...i love repeating myself...just because you parrot ruxxy and myself doesn't give you a free town pass. it means you can parrot. whoopdeedoo yamato is right there with you in my preferred lynch club answer the questions I don't know if there is somehow a breakdown in English which you quite clearly can read but how does any of that answer my question at all? You have simply repeated questions towards me that are irrelevant since you and ruxxar are the people I was "parroting". I will make this as plain and simple as I can for you. Since my post is just a parrot of YOUR points and your town read's points, why am I your top mafia read? On August 07 2015 01:14 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 01:10 iGrok wrote:
Ok, so you're saying, "Do you find it interesting that RS has the same read of TS as you?"
I don't really, because RS's reads seem to be mostly sheeped off other people. which ones? some of them i'm pretty certain i made first, and regardless, how does it make me scum to have the same reads as others? is my reasoning the same as theirs? Apparently you think having the same reads and sheeping does not make people mafia so why is it different for me? Furthermore, why am I the top of your scum reads when all I've done is parrot you but Yamato isn't when you say he's playing exactly like his mafia meta? There is a breakdown in thought process here and it looks like you were just happy to jump onto a mislynch wagon. ... you are basically asserting two things: 1. mafia cannot use other people's reasons that they've read in the thread to make reads - do i really have to explain how this isn't true? 2. i should townread anyone who has the same opinions i do - uhhhh, no. i can be wrong. mafia can buss your line of thinking is bad. your push/argumentation in this direction is irrelevant, because you keep repeating that i should for whatever reason not be scumreading you based on these two false! assertions i did not spell it out because i generally assume (especially given the pretty, long words you've been using) that people aren't morons until proven otherwise. if you're halfway intelligent you should already get what i'm saying
i do not find it townie for someone's one and only post to express that much uncertainty while blatantly sheeping not just a read but the exact reasons for a read you proceeded to do it again with your pretty "false dichotomies" bit, which focused in on rayn's questioning of igrok's reasoning the next time i have seen nothing original from you except for the assertions toward me that i highlighted above where you keep insisting that i should be townreading you and somehow miss that yamato is my second preferred lynch...you are acting like i'm townreading him lol >< which is clearly not the case i asked you the questions because you parroted ruxxar and myself and i want you to explain: 1. why the case that you said was bad is bad 2. what exactly he said was "coatchingesque" and why that makes him scum because i want to see if you actually believe these things. i want to know your thought process when you made these blanket statements to see if they're anything but just blatant plagiarism it's amazing that you don't understand what the problem is and that you keep dodging something this simple to answer. you said the words. why can't you elaborate? I never mentioned that mafia could not do those things, that is a fallacy that I pointed out from YOUR own thinking here: On August 07 2015 01:14 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 01:10 iGrok wrote:
Ok, so you're saying, "Do you find it interesting that RS has the same read of TS as you?"
I don't really, because RS's reads seem to be mostly sheeped off other people. which ones? some of them i'm pretty certain i made first, and regardless, how does it make me scum to have the same reads as others? is my reasoning the same as theirs? Your post is extremely poignant to this situation because: A) You use this argument for your own defence. B) You then use this same logical fallacy to paint my posting in a negative light to your own benefit. Your second point is extremely incongruous with what a town thought process should be. In most cases people that are using your own reads and acknowledging those points are not their own are overwhelmingly likely to be town. Furthermore, in no instance have you EVER elaborated (still after my repeated questioning) why I am your top scum read. Your second point references my qualm but instead of stating why you actually think I am mafia you try and bypass the whole quesion, yet again. You state that mafia "can" bus but how does this relate to why I am mafia in the slightest? You also state that I must be intelligent because of X, Y, Z but then ask me entirely redundant questions which, if you were town, would absolutely know would lead nowhere but a circular argument. What do you expect me to answer because it would be more than simple to just find where you mention "cheerleading" and "coaching" and just reference those points to appease you. If you are going to say that your mafia read is in that post where you mention my "uncertainty" can you show me where exactly I am uncertain of anything in the slightest? That is also, just like Raynpelikoneet, a gross misrepresentation of my post. I thought they were both capable of being mafia and any uncertainty was purely to hedge bets and vote for the "most" mafiaesque player.
To close this piece, I think what you have been doing (I'm not particularly sure you have actually done anything) is leading the town nowhere when normally I think you would be much more forward in getting scum reads out of the active people instead of falling back to a Yamato and myself scum team read, ESPECIALLY when you have TL+ and have access to filters. I think you are likely mafia too. excuse you i have actual fucking reads and original thoughts. you do not. we're not comparable, and trying to intimate that we are is ludicrous wham bam thank you ma'am -drops mic- When did I mention that we were comparable in this post? I hold you to the metric that you display in a multitude of games and I feel that you are not achieving this metric, especially with this advantage that you have. Yes, you have reads but does that answer anything I wrote in my post at all? No, it does not.
seriously?
my scumread is you don't have any reads of your own
you tried to say it was because you were sheeping others' reads. there is a world of difference between having similar reads, even sheeping them, and flatout doing nothing BUT sheeping others' reads. we're not comparable
and the other bit is just shit
if i read someone mafia i pursue it. doesn't fucking matter how "active" they are
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On August 08 2015 03:49 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2015 03:47 yamato77 wrote:On August 08 2015 03:44 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
I also feel that your reads on Kelsier are misplaced. He seems antagonistic and aloof and he seems to forget things that occur in the thread. He takes stances but he has no drive which I am used to from him.
Can somebody explain why they think otherwise? So now you follow up with an explanation of the kelsier read. I will say, he seems rather disconnected with the thread currently. You say your general impression of him is that he has a "drive"? Could you elaborate? Quite simply I am used to him making cases, making a lot of posts that probe into everything and also trying to get to the bottom of things as town. Here I have seen random defences of people, only stances when other people make posts and a lack of drive. Like I said, aloof.
nh, could be
he's had his moments but they've been less frequent than i'd usually expect
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