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On August 07 2015 01:53 iGrok wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 01:47 rsoultin wrote: grok kinda does fit into his own active lurker thing, tbf
grok why do you not answer me -_- you're talking around me I don't need any more information from you today. Well, I do, I just don't expect to get any. And before you ask why, ye, reading is a skill ^^
ask
i'll work with you ^^ see, i can be nice?
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##vote edgar
hey rayn...do you really think igrok is going about his scumread correctly?
i can't read him this way -_-
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On August 07 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like rsoultin in this case i think you are enabling him if he is mafia, and you are giving him wrong signals if he is town. Back off for a while, and we'll see what he says.
lol >< he's just not even working with me when i've been trying to get him to since last night but okay
if you really think that my behavior (which has been fairly reasonable imo all things considered) is enough to justify his lack of play, then i can let it go for a little bit
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On August 07 2015 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like rsoultin in this case i think you are enabling him if he is mafia, and you are giving him wrong signals if he is town. Back off for a while, and we'll see what he says. lol >< he's just not even working with me when i've been trying to get him to since last night but okay if you really think that my behavior (which has been fairly reasonable imo all things considered) is enough to justify his lack of play, then i can let it go for a little bit he thinks you are mafia. why should he work with you? i never work with people i am sure are mafia. he is saying you are not doing shit. It was imo reasonable earlier. Now you two are in a "no you" contest. I suggest you both let it go, if either of you think the other one is mafia by the eod then it is a different story. Right now discussing it goes nowhere. for the record your vote on Edgar was really townie. Thank you. 
edgar is my top scumread you goof lol >< don't thank me. it's called playing the game
i'm just discussing other reads now, but i don't have to discuss grok for awhile
hrum
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On August 07 2015 02:22 The Shining wrote: Not going too indepth in it but I think rsoultin is town, rayn as well. The interaction with them, although tense, seems genuine on both sides and I like that RSo tries to de-escalate while also still explaining her reads and everything rayn is attacking her for. But I don't agree with the ruxxar read...it's mostly based on meta. It's better than nothing but going off of this game, I'm not seeing town motivation in his posts.
ye it's meta
i think it's solid, though. for examples of what scum ruxx looks like, there's himalayas and gaiden. in himalayas i caught him before anyone else did. in gaiden we were scum together. and before that i coached him
i feel i've got a fairly strong grasp on his thought process?
don't really blame people for not just blindly trusting that, though. if you want to look at the games, be my guest. the things that get me is how constructed his posts were...he didn't engage with people (until after i called him out on it) in himalayas and still struggled a bit with the engagement thing in gaiden though had gotten a lot better at it
but overall there was just this we are town! town members should do this! we as town should behave in such and such a way and so and so is not therefore he is bad or scum let's lynch!
which is not what i see here
so...ye, take that as you may. i think it would be beneficial to read those two games though to get where damdy and i are coming from. we were both in both those games
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On August 07 2015 02:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: or rsoultin, if you do not think ruxxar is mafia then who is? i do not accept scott as an answer.
you have my list?
i don't really have scumreads outside of edgar/yama and even yama is more null-leaning-scum cause he's pulled this shit as town, too, just being a lazy ass lol ><
i've removed cake from it for the time being (i liked her post but lol...not really that familiar with her)
scott...i really just don't think your approach there is very solid for reasons i won't go into on top of the simple fact that posting that in gen is like...super easy? but i can agree to not lynching him d1, more because he's shown some level of interest at least
ff...i'm not sure why he's being townread? some of his posts i've liked and some i haven't, as i said...all in all it hasn't met my threshold for him yet
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On August 07 2015 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 02:29 ruXxar wrote:On August 07 2015 02:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 07 2015 02:26 ruXxar wrote:On August 07 2015 02:22 The Shining wrote: Not going too indepth in it but I think rsoultin is town, rayn as well. The interaction with them, although tense, seems genuine on both sides and I like that RSo tries to de-escalate while also still explaining her reads and everything rayn is attacking her for. But I don't agree with the ruxxar read...it's mostly based on meta. It's better than nothing but going off of this game, I'm not seeing town motivation in his posts. You should trust rsouls read in me She reads me like a book when I'm mafia, I have nowhere to hide. can you give an example game for this? Himalayas. no in fact she caught bugs, not you.
i in fact caught him, rayn
please don't undermine me
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On August 07 2015 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: rsoultin i can explain to you what the problem with ruxxar is if you really want to. If i am wrong then i am wrong but i think he is playing you and Damdred, and you are just incapable of seeing it.
i'm fine with you explaining it? he could be playing us...he's actually a good player from what i've seen lol
but i don't think he is? what makes you think he is? just because he townread us quick?
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On August 07 2015 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 02:34 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 07 2015 02:29 ruXxar wrote:On August 07 2015 02:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 07 2015 02:26 ruXxar wrote:On August 07 2015 02:22 The Shining wrote: Not going too indepth in it but I think rsoultin is town, rayn as well. The interaction with them, although tense, seems genuine on both sides and I like that RSo tries to de-escalate while also still explaining her reads and everything rayn is attacking her for. But I don't agree with the ruxxar read...it's mostly based on meta. It's better than nothing but going off of this game, I'm not seeing town motivation in his posts. You should trust rsouls read in me She reads me like a book when I'm mafia, I have nowhere to hide. can you give an example game for this? Himalayas. no in fact she caught bugs, not you. i in fact caught him, rayn please don't undermine me it was his first scumgame, and don't even try to tell me that bugs read noone else had was not influencial to that. 
lol true it's easier to see scum in players who replaced players you were already scumreading >> or at least suspecting
to be fair i kept waffling on bugs
but i caught him because he said it was easier to not engage with the thread as scum and just post analysis in his newbie post game...and that's exactly what he started doing as soon as he replaced in. i knew he hadn't played scum before. even felt bad about the read a little cause...he completely goofed and gave himself away there
but look at ruxx's posting toward the end of the game with hf...i know you're not really a tonereader but the tone there is very forced and he was also pretty forced in gaiden
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On August 07 2015 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 02:36 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: rsoultin i can explain to you what the problem with ruxxar is if you really want to. If i am wrong then i am wrong but i think he is playing you and Damdred, and you are just incapable of seeing it. i'm fine with you explaining it? he could be playing us...he's actually a good player from what i've seen lol but i don't think he is? what makes you think he is? just because he townread us quick? no, because he is not "being stupid or irrational or whatever". he is ACTING like he is.
???
okay, prove it?
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On August 07 2015 02:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 02:40 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 07 2015 02:36 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: rsoultin i can explain to you what the problem with ruxxar is if you really want to. If i am wrong then i am wrong but i think he is playing you and Damdred, and you are just incapable of seeing it. i'm fine with you explaining it? he could be playing us...he's actually a good player from what i've seen lol but i don't think he is? what makes you think he is? just because he townread us quick? no, because he is not "being stupid or irrational or whatever". he is ACTING like he is. ??? okay, prove it? i think i have already. 
eh ye
well i get your point of view...just think we're gonna have to agree to disagree at this point lol >< i understand you think the tone is easy to replicate, too, but i don't necessarily agree with that even if i can see why you'd think so
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On August 07 2015 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 02:52 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 02:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 07 2015 02:40 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 07 2015 02:36 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: rsoultin i can explain to you what the problem with ruxxar is if you really want to. If i am wrong then i am wrong but i think he is playing you and Damdred, and you are just incapable of seeing it. i'm fine with you explaining it? he could be playing us...he's actually a good player from what i've seen lol but i don't think he is? what makes you think he is? just because he townread us quick? no, because he is not "being stupid or irrational or whatever". he is ACTING like he is. ??? okay, prove it? i think i have already.  eh ye well i get your point of view...just think we're gonna have to agree to disagree at this point lol >< i understand you think the tone is easy to replicate, too, but i don't necessarily agree with that even if i can see why you'd think so If i am right here you should never ever do tonereads anymore. 
but then i wouldn't be able to godread damdy even when he can't play much! lol ><
no deal
that said, i'm probably right anyway and it doesn't even matter ^^
if you want to bet me something for lolz we can do that...maybe another drunk "piano man" session? you have to siiiiing for me if i'm right lol
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##unvote ##vote EdgarAllenPoE
and a certain host better double-check cause this hasn't necessarily been working well for everyone -_-
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On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters.
I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.
##vote iGrok
I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier.
this is a general sheeple post
yes i agree with rayn that it's awkward wording, "impasse" but you vote on grok
why do you single me out, since we're asking why questions today?
you managed to sheeple the opinion of ruxx who you're also wary of, didn't present a read on me, cited reasons: coatchingesque <- my read, and bad case <- ruxx's read...but didn't go into how that made him scum? hint: bad cases don't make people scum
how as his case bad? what was coatchingesque and how does that make him scum?
and you also incorporated two excuses into your one and only post
1. don't blame you for being awful cause no filters 2. not going to be active
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lol meh damdy he's got ego the rayn does
it's okies. if he really thought we were "dumb" he'd ignore us -pokes at a rayn- and not constantly try to read us by how intelligent we're playing, for that matter lol
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you called us dumb. pretty obv rayn
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pretty sure it is. don't hurt the damdy feelings! though that confirms my read some more cause lol...he's shit at faking emotions
anyway
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On August 07 2015 04:18 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: None of that answers my question rsoultin. Please respond.
i did. what don't you understand?
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On August 07 2015 04:31 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 04:18 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: None of that answers my question rsoultin. Please respond. i did. what don't you understand?
to be clear, i described all the things i didn't like about your post and asked you questions that you have yet to answer
your assumption that just because you point out things i already said should make me townread you is faulty at best
if there's something you don't understand, i'll answer, but i already have responded to your question lol ><
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On August 07 2015 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##unvote ##vote ruxxar rsoultin i assure you he is mafia.
i'm okay with being wrong d1? i'm sure if he's really mafia it'll become clear to me too before like...i die lol ><
edgar is prob mafia. let's kill him
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