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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 08 2015 19:47 GMT
#1502
On August 09 2015 04:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
iGrok, most of your posts were about playing the game and complaining about us as well as separating the old players from the new. These all create bad town atmosphere.

Rather than complaining about the new style of play, why don't you try to combine minds? n00bKing is a good player who plays a lot like you. Rather than fighting with him I try and collaborate my tone/feel reads with his concrete analysis. I often give him the starting point to base his reads off of while he keeps me from going haywire with theories. We combine our different styles of play rather than fighting. Just a thought.

I wasn't separating old/new players, the separation was already there. This was made particularly obvious when HF pulled his stuff. Me, Rayne, and Yamato were the most pissed about it, most other players seemed to not particularly care.





@RS:

Here's most of your filter from the start of game.

On August 06 2015 05:01 rsoultin wrote:
ye i'm being lazy today lol >< see you scrubs tomorrowish

On August 06 2015 06:13 rsoultin wrote:
bad reasons

townreads

teehee

has some won't share

pfffftt @ igrok

On August 06 2015 06:15 rsoultin wrote:
okay i'll share the damdy read of win

town town

now we can both be lazy <3

-fades into the ether-

On August 06 2015 06:38 rsoultin wrote:
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On August 06 2015 06:38 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:37 rsoultin wrote:
ruxx town too prob

the preaching, it is absent


careful about town reading me too hard or I might start tunneling you


i'm a goddess ^^

it's prelim, though...lol

On August 06 2015 06:41 rsoultin wrote:
meh i may actually vote iGrok too :/

the activity fixation is real

and now

drumroll please!

engage lazy!rsoul mode

-poofs-

On August 06 2015 06:57 rsoultin wrote:
ye

no soul

it is soulless o.0

no+soul = soul+less = less a soul = demon!

grab your torch and pitchfork! or is it garlic?

On August 06 2015 07:09 rsoultin wrote:
lol ruxx you have no off button xP

without filters we have to try not to run away with the thread, ye?

bueno, yeah igrok whenever you stop lecturing and actually playing, let us know? k?

k ^^

On August 06 2015 07:10 rsoultin wrote:
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On August 06 2015 07:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
well ruxxar is mafia.
##vote ruxxar


think you're wrong

fite me!

On August 06 2015 07:14 rsoultin wrote:
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On August 06 2015 07:13 iGrok wrote:
@rayne, even if he is, he isn't lurking. Right now I still think Tina is an excellent lynch. People who haven't posted at all have the excuse of perhaps not even knowing the game has started.

If there's someone who hasn't posted at all by tomorrow, I'll definitely move to lynch them, but for right now Tina the "active lurker" is the best target.


lynch lurkers

tina so lurky

lolol ><




On August 06 2015 07:17 rsoultin wrote:

igrok igrok talk to me about igrok/ksc

rayn prob town

dunnae bout scott but don't really care right now lol ><

On August 06 2015 07:21 iGrok wrote:

What about myself and KSC?

What are your reasons for finding rayne town?

On August 06 2015 07:24 rsoultin wrote:
ye, reading is a skill ^^


Can you point out what exactly I was supposed to read there? I left out posts such as:

On August 06 2015 07:18 rsoultin wrote:
nu

damdy is my name for him ;o;

-slaps ruxxy's hands-

find your own name!


or

On August 06 2015 07:20 rsoultin wrote:
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On August 06 2015 07:19 iGrok wrote:
ruXxar, can you please try to consolidate your posts? You've had a triple post on every page since you joined the game. It makes things needlessly difficult to read through, particularly while filters are down.


coaching alert


because those -really- don't seem relevant to the question you asked me, but let me know if I'm wrong about that.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-08 19:57:36
August 08 2015 19:54 GMT
#1506
You posted that after I asked my question.

Like, I asked you a question, you answered by talking to someone else, and then quoted my question and essentially called me dumb for asking the question to begin with because you had already answered it.

If I was in the "not gonna talk to RS mode", I wouldn't have asked you the question to begin with, nor asked you for clarity on what you meant by "talk about igrok/ksc" (which you never commented on either).
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 08 2015 20:09 GMT
#1513
Except that I did ask you to elaborate, and all I got was that insult.

I posted my case on you at least once, maybe twice before I started ignoring you, because it's a really short case. I set a trap, you got caught in it, that makes you scummy and a good D1 lynch. When literally rayne was the only person who recognized the trap, I reposted the case multiple times.

You kept saying (and continue to say) that I never asked you for clarification, but I literally just demonstrated that I did.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-08 20:27:01
August 08 2015 20:25 GMT
#1518
On August 09 2015 05:15 justanothertownie wrote:
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On August 09 2015 04:07 iGrok wrote:
I don't have anything against you personally, I want to make that clear. Honestly it felt like you were playing a pretty good recovery from the slip. However, knowing now that you're town, I really take issue with some of your comments, particularly "ye reading is a skill ^^". Your posts aren't clear, and as town, if someone is asking you to clarify, you should try to clarify rather than be condescending. This also contributed to my scumread of you. It was extremely frustrating to try to engage in any sort of conversation with you, because your reasoning for anything we disagreed on was that I just didn't know how you played and/or "can't english", which was even more infuriating as I was the one posting in proper english while you posted in incomplete sentences, little capitalization/punctuation, and emotes.

That's just how she is (as either alignment btw.). For some reason she just won't ever answer questions (even easy ones) in a straight up way. Instead you will be mocked and directed at her filter. It is always the same and you will need to get used to it like everyone else :/

Your trap is garbage btw. - this is never alignment indicative.

Then she's a bad townie. If you're pro-town, you want to convince people of your scumreads, but more than that you want to convince them that you're town. Being evasive and dismissive is objectively bad town play. Why should town put up with it? Lynch her, eliminate either scum or unhelpful town whatever her alignment is, and move on with the next day.

That goes for anyone, not just RS. Townies who play anti-town styles should be lynched Day 1. Eventually they adapt and the game gets better for it.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 08 2015 20:28 GMT
#1520
On August 09 2015 05:27 justanothertownie wrote:
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On August 09 2015 05:25 iGrok wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 09 2015 04:07 iGrok wrote:
I don't have anything against you personally, I want to make that clear. Honestly it felt like you were playing a pretty good recovery from the slip. However, knowing now that you're town, I really take issue with some of your comments, particularly "ye reading is a skill ^^". Your posts aren't clear, and as town, if someone is asking you to clarify, you should try to clarify rather than be condescending. This also contributed to my scumread of you. It was extremely frustrating to try to engage in any sort of conversation with you, because your reasoning for anything we disagreed on was that I just didn't know how you played and/or "can't english", which was even more infuriating as I was the one posting in proper english while you posted in incomplete sentences, little capitalization/punctuation, and emotes.

That's just how she is (as either alignment btw.). For some reason she just won't ever answer questions (even easy ones) in a straight up way. Instead you will be mocked and directed at her filter. It is always the same and you will need to get used to it like everyone else :/

Your trap is garbage btw. - this is never alignment indicative.

Then she's a bad townie. If you're pro-town, you want to convince people of your scumreads, but more than that you want to convince them that you're town. Being evasive and dismissive is objectively bad town play. Why should town put up with it? Lynch her, eliminate either scum or unhelpful town whatever her alignment is, and move on with the next day.

If you lynch every townie that plays somewhat suboptimally you will never win a game of mafia ever. Unless you rolled scum that is.

I didn't say sub-optimally, I said anti-town. Refusing to communicate or answer questions is actively anti-town.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 08 2015 20:32 GMT
#1523
On August 09 2015 05:28 rsoultin wrote:
are you going to talk to me igrok? i'm being very civil

I was responding to JAT. I'm not sure what you want me to respond to on your end, you've made your point actually clear. You think you're clear enough, and if you think someone doesn't understand you assume they're bad and not reading. I don't know how I'm supposed to respond to that.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 08 2015 20:33 GMT
#1525
On August 09 2015 05:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 05:28 iGrok wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:25 iGrok wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 09 2015 04:07 iGrok wrote:
I don't have anything against you personally, I want to make that clear. Honestly it felt like you were playing a pretty good recovery from the slip. However, knowing now that you're town, I really take issue with some of your comments, particularly "ye reading is a skill ^^". Your posts aren't clear, and as town, if someone is asking you to clarify, you should try to clarify rather than be condescending. This also contributed to my scumread of you. It was extremely frustrating to try to engage in any sort of conversation with you, because your reasoning for anything we disagreed on was that I just didn't know how you played and/or "can't english", which was even more infuriating as I was the one posting in proper english while you posted in incomplete sentences, little capitalization/punctuation, and emotes.

That's just how she is (as either alignment btw.). For some reason she just won't ever answer questions (even easy ones) in a straight up way. Instead you will be mocked and directed at her filter. It is always the same and you will need to get used to it like everyone else :/

Your trap is garbage btw. - this is never alignment indicative.

Then she's a bad townie. If you're pro-town, you want to convince people of your scumreads, but more than that you want to convince them that you're town. Being evasive and dismissive is objectively bad town play. Why should town put up with it? Lynch her, eliminate either scum or unhelpful town whatever her alignment is, and move on with the next day.

If you lynch every townie that plays somewhat suboptimally you will never win a game of mafia ever. Unless you rolled scum that is.

I didn't say sub-optimally, I said anti-town. Refusing to communicate or answer questions is actively anti-town.

Yeah, like lurking, lying and many other things. Still no matter how many people you policy lynch for it townies will keep doing it anyways.
The art of being good at town is to distinguish between anti-town and mafia behaviour.

I have a little faith in the people on TL that they can be better. We all can. You need both carrot and stick to train people.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 08 2015 20:39 GMT
#1528
On August 09 2015 05:32 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 05:28 iGrok wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:25 iGrok wrote:
On August 09 2015 05:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 09 2015 04:07 iGrok wrote:
I don't have anything against you personally, I want to make that clear. Honestly it felt like you were playing a pretty good recovery from the slip. However, knowing now that you're town, I really take issue with some of your comments, particularly "ye reading is a skill ^^". Your posts aren't clear, and as town, if someone is asking you to clarify, you should try to clarify rather than be condescending. This also contributed to my scumread of you. It was extremely frustrating to try to engage in any sort of conversation with you, because your reasoning for anything we disagreed on was that I just didn't know how you played and/or "can't english", which was even more infuriating as I was the one posting in proper english while you posted in incomplete sentences, little capitalization/punctuation, and emotes.

That's just how she is (as either alignment btw.). For some reason she just won't ever answer questions (even easy ones) in a straight up way. Instead you will be mocked and directed at her filter. It is always the same and you will need to get used to it like everyone else :/

Your trap is garbage btw. - this is never alignment indicative.

Then she's a bad townie. If you're pro-town, you want to convince people of your scumreads, but more than that you want to convince them that you're town. Being evasive and dismissive is objectively bad town play. Why should town put up with it? Lynch her, eliminate either scum or unhelpful town whatever her alignment is, and move on with the next day.

If you lynch every townie that plays somewhat suboptimally you will never win a game of mafia ever. Unless you rolled scum that is.

I didn't say sub-optimally, I said anti-town. Refusing to communicate or answer questions is actively anti-town.


admittedly i didn't answer your question

saying that i refused to communicate or answer questions on the whole is a gross misrepresentation of my play this game. if your only purpose here is to "win" by saying that it's not your fault for misreading me and it was my fault for playing that way, i've already accepted responsibility for the parts of my play that are subpar

the fact of the matter, though, is your read wasn't good. there was a reason most of the game didn't agree with you and it wasn't just because they're all bad and you're the only good player here, i can assure you

Cool, guess what, I didn't say that either.

Obviously there's an incredibly vast meta difference between when I last played and now. Now it isn't just palmar, wbg, and kenpachi that spam the thread with 1-liners, its everyone.

I still can't believe I got called scum because my post was in proper english.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 08 2015 21:05 GMT
#1531
On August 09 2015 05:54 Damdred wrote:
No... That wasn't why you were called scum. You were actively working against the thread, unable to communicate with anyone outside this old vet division you made up and overall refused to play or gave non factual representations of what was going on.

Tge meta has changed to some extent but its still mafia.

On August 06 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote:
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On August 06 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:40 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:39 iGrok wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:32 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 05:14 iGrok wrote:
On a serious note, I will be pushing to lynch lurkers hard this game. Particularly in mountainous setups, activity is all we have to read you on. You lurk, I'm coming for you.


Ugh this post.
So much try hard, I get tired just reading it.

#1 scum so far.

##Vote iGrok

Yeah, I get that you're just doing this because you want to look like you have some activity, but at least this is some activity? I don't think you really believe what you said, so I'll let it slide.


i actually believe that you are scummiest so far.

npnp, brush it off, you can take it.


you still haven't explained why try harding makes you scum , or what was wrong with the post he made?
what is wrong with his posts all being serious?


it felt like he put too much thought into it and spent too much time writing it.
bolding text and polishing it to make it look real nice as if he was like "yo look at me I'm super town and I'm gonna be like super scum hunter 1000%" <--- town actions town cred GG ez game.

gave me a scum vibe.

I got called scum because my 2-line post was proper english and used bold tags.
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