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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 27 2015 14:05 GMT
#781
On July 27 2015 22:57 Clarity_nl wrote:
Welp irl is shit and everything is shit. If there's a vigi they should shoot me as it doesn't look like I'll get the chance to play properly. I gtg


lol
Retired.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 27 2015 14:08 GMT
#782
On July 27 2015 23:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 22:57 Clarity_nl wrote:
Welp irl is shit and everything is shit. If there's a vigi they should shoot me as it doesn't look like I'll get the chance to play properly. I gtg


lol


lol
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 27 2015 15:54 GMT
#783
Lol

And palmar, stop overreacting?
You guys are too over sensitive with people calling you suspicious. The game gets unpleasant.

Well, this is my last post and I know I'll be alive in the next day so, that's it.

To the thread: listen to rsoultin as she probably is town. If she wants to lynch clarity, lynch clarity.
You guys have plenty of mislynches by now.

Palmar COULD be Mafia but that's something you should look after only in later days. He had the opportunity to lynch clarity and he didn't. He could've tried to lynch Scott and he didn't. Palmar could be Mafia only if scott is Mafia imo.
What I'm trying to advise is: don't take Palmar's hammer as a sign of him being town. Also, there isn't much to call him town either. So, just keep an eye on him

Rayn is probably town. Onegu is probably town. Kelsier is probably town. Snickers is probably town.

No townie asks to me shot at night like clarity did. If he is busy he would ask a replacement, but not do that. Trust rsoultin. Shoot him or lynch him day2.

That's it. I'll see you until tonight.
I'm adorable.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 27 2015 17:32 GMT
#784
When clarity flips town gonread my posts again.
I know i cant do anything about the lynch on D2.
But Clarity is not mafia.

Then look at what i said about rsoultin and Palmar.
Thank you.
table for two on a tv tray
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 27 2015 17:39 GMT
#785
I actually think we should go for someone who tried to stop the scum train:

scott31337 (4): boxerfred, Hopeless1der, FirmTofu, GlowingBear, FirmTofu

That would include me.

So, regarding me:

- I'm town. Har har, I can tell from my role PM.
- I was the first on scott so technically, I didn't jump a train but instead stayed on who I chose to vote for.

Hopeless1ider:

On July 25 2015 08:59 Hopeless1der wrote:
Anyone interested in contesting the claims or are we going to just ignore that? For reference, my thoughts are onegu good, rayn indifferent.

I also don't get how Palmar literally claiming Mafia is conducive to being "blunt and to the point" as town.

Or kenpachI ruling people. Someone teach me how to kenpachI rule.


This is really a concerning post. Like "interested in contesting" - the usage of this word implies that the claim is not legit. Also while it appears like a proactive thing, trying to raise interest, there is no follow up to it when such thoughts didn't get much grip.

Reading his filter:
He says something on palmar, then on scott (casts his vote on him), a bit on Onegut ("Null/town lean") and a bit of blabla ("can't read him") on Rayn. Lots of flailing, nothing that's really helpful for town, not in the slightest tbh.

GlowingBear:

Well he did a huge case on Kelsier D1, biggest argument being

4) HE IS VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT

HE IS FUCKING VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT. SCOTT WAS THE FIRST GUY TO ANNOY HIM (AND KELSIER WOULD LYNCH PEOPLE DOING THAT)! Why he doesn't prefer a scott lynch? Hell, a lot of people thinks he is mafia! Instead of going against the guy that certainly looked as mafia for him, he is going against questionmark!Tofu. More than that, he wasn't advocating for a lynch on Scott, but opened a range of possible lynches he would go against (tofu, scott, obi, clarity).
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, PEOPLE! COME ON!!!


Well. That'd be a bit of way-too-hardcore bussing wouldn't it? Although I think KSC actually is capable of doing it, he bussed and double bussed in Gaiden, too. However how likely is it to role scum twice in a row? Not too likely. I know this is not bullet proof but it's another indicator of KSC being town.

However, his case doesn't get grip. But by that time, Tofu has 5 votes upon him and it becomes rather likely that he'd be the lynch! GB knows that, he already soft defends Tofu:

On July 27 2015 04:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 04:33 rsoultin wrote:
@ GB

1. he's used his posts to contribute and make reads - point is wrong
2. could be if the point is the very last sentence...but i interpreted it as him saying that (scott? i think it was?) shouldn't be shutting down my reads just because he thought ksc was "scummiest"
3. yeah, null read is null here still - point is wrong
4. you're still stuck on "annoyance" meaning that ksc thinks you're scum - point is wrong

the only point that holds any water here, gb, is the second, just as rayn said, and frankly i can still easily see it coming from town so it doesn't outweigh all the things that i think makes ksc town this game


Well, I think point 2 is damning enough.

I can get what you're saying about the others.

But, as I stated, he repeatedly deflected pressure. It wasn't only on that post. He never answered my other pushes on him, he shut snickers down too.

I think it's very damning

I don't see the points on tofu. I do see the point on scott


On July 27 2015 05:00 GlowingBear wrote:
Rayn we have so much information to deal with tofu tomorrow. Scott and clarity are way better lynches


Then, he joins the train:

On July 27 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Nah actually I'm voting tofu

I just saw that he is clearly voting every other wagon other than him.

##vote: FirmTofu


He does that, being the 6th vote. He brings up a totally NEW reason though, like as if he had to justify why he jumps the train on Tofu. However 20 minutes later, he again starts soft defending Tofu, indirectly:

On July 27 2015 05:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar, lynch Scott
Or, if you want to do the correct thing, lynch keksier


On July 27 2015 05:39 GlowingBear wrote:
Town isn't bad, any of these options are okay lynches, I just think we have better targets other than tofu (I.e. Scummy lurkers)

The possibility of having a Mafia between one of those is high

Also, note how he says "scummy lurkers" without any follow up though. Like, 0 follow up.

Next up, scott:

On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.


Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him.


I must say I also think it could be possible

Scott, who are the Mafia doing that?

So the guy he wants to hang (of course along with KSC) says something about an obscure feeling and GB simply asks who scott is referring to? Well, GB (as quoted above!) actually says quite a lot of times that Tofu is not a good lynch. That clarity is better. Kelsier is better. Scott is better. How is he so sure?

He then goes on with some words on mafia trying to get another train than tofu running. And BOOM, GB tries to get another train starting:

On July 27 2015 06:28 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 05:40 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:44 KelsierSC wrote:
I thought scott was scummy, I posted a quote of his that was scummy.

Yes superb evidence, it really makes me look "terrible"

can we lynch tofu already.


Why do I get this feeling we are right on Tofu and mafia are trying to get us to swap?


Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.


Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him.


Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 05:57 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.


Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him.


I must say I also think it could be possible

Scott, who are the Mafia doing that?


I do not know if you are mafia but you seem to be fighting his lynch pretty strongly (posted your case on Kelsier a couple hours ago when it looked like Tofu's getting the noose when maybe it would be better for day 2, asked rayn to vote me, asked palmar to vote me, etc.)


Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 06:14 scott31337 wrote:
I have just re-read Clarity's filter, never mind it's really bad - a vote on me and a comment on Hopeless's post (although Hopeless did a bit better) and nothing much else.

I could vote for him too.


Thought process does not compute.

You think Tofu is Mafia
Then you say Mafia is trying to take people out of the tofu wagon.
The alternate wagon is clarity. I suppose you may think Mafia could be there.
But you call Mafia people that were in other wagons and does not consider people that moved to the clarity wagon.
You even raise suspicions on me but you don't call me Mafia (?), what's the point then?
Then you dive clarity and suddenly he is bad? What about Mafia protecting tofu by forming another wagon?????

Your thought process makes no sense and it completely fits Mafia perspective

GUYS VOTE SCOTT PLEASE


On July 27 2015 06:35 GlowingBear wrote:
I mean, if you THINK Mafia is trying to take votes off of Mafia!Tofu you MUST consider they are forming the alternate wagon INSTEAD of ignoring people forming the alternate wagon and placing votes somewhere else. There is no other option

EVEN if you believed in what you just said, it would make me completely Mafia, and not just something you would say "I don't know you're Mafia". Then other Mafia are boxerfred (?) and PROBABLY A VET? Why a vet, which vet, why not me.

Then you simply say you could lynch clarity, man. You just said Mafia was taking votes off of tofu.

You can't me town.

PEOPLE PLEASE, SCOTT CAN'T BE TOWN


On July 27 2015 06:45 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 06:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah we don't have the people to switch to scott.
Even then I still want to lynch FT.

Let's go with that.


This is bullshit, we only need 3 more votes on scott


On July 27 2015 06:54 GlowingBear wrote:
God!!! It's so clear his thought process is fabricsted!!!!! Fucking vote him!!!!!



So yeah. I'm pretty convinced that GB is scum.

raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 27 2015 17:40 GMT
#786
On July 27 2015 04:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:48 rsoultin wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you're shit at reading Palmar but i am wrong on him?


lol you guys love to focus in on this

i've told you why i think he's town and i've admitted i could be wrong cause i know i'm not good at reading him. so what? like, do you have a case on palmar i didn't see? i'm not just going to sheep you on him when i think he's town and i have no clue if i should trust your read over mine because i don't know how good you are at reading him. i suspect not very. he's fucking palmar -_-

I ma very good at reading Palmar.


proof or it didn't happen

i trust myself
i trust certain players on particular other players if i'm townreading them
i trust a townread palmar's d1 reads to some extent if i at least get a similar feel

like, seriously, how can you expect me to trust you when you're not even sure and you're scumreading me in the same breath for god knows what reason?

i suspect association, personally, which just makes me want to facepalm. maybe you're right on tofu but i really think clarity is the better lynch today because i see scum there where tofu could just be bad town?

here is why rsoultin is mafia.

I said this before and i say this again. I don't care to google the english words for what this is, look at foolishness' post about "book of bad arguments".

"I cant trust your other reads because you cant even read me here".

I am serious i have never seen rsoultin say anything this stupid in a game of mafia.
She is scum, i dont care what she posts. This is enough.

Palmar is also scum.
table for two on a tv tray
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 27 2015 17:41 GMT
#787
84/90

i think you're wrong, rayn, but can you explain to me why you think clarity is town?

unless it's just because you're tunneled on me, in which case your read is already based on a false premise and it's not useful to me at all -_- i'd like to hear your read on palmar unless, again, it's just associative
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 27 2015 17:42 GMT
#788
tl;dr:

GB pushed some people, soft defended the scum lynch quite a lot of times, tried to get another train rolling. I think that's scummy.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 27 2015 18:04 GMT
#789
Gb who would you shoot instead of clarity?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 27 2015 18:08 GMT
#790
What's the point of even giving him extra days if he constantly refuses to do stuff?
Retired.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 27 2015 18:17 GMT
#791
On July 28 2015 02:42 boxerfred wrote:
tl;dr:

GB pushed some people, soft defended the scum lynch quite a lot of times, tried to get another train rolling. I think that's scummy.


yeh that's basically what I thought of GB when I read his posts through again.
My reason for suspecting you is that you were happy on scott and you didn't give a read on tofu that I can see. how come?





Zerg for Life
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 27 2015 18:40 GMT
#792
mostly disinterest in actually proofreading, was feeling people were just fine and didn't read him towny anyways so why bother with a defense/more pressure.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 27 2015 18:41 GMT
#793
like, thread was on him, why should I add to this if I don't have anything new to add.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 27 2015 18:42 GMT
#794
if I die in the night, read my GB case. I have a feeling I hit something.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 27 2015 18:42 GMT
#795
Fuck you rayn
Computer says mafia
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 27 2015 19:11 GMT
#796
On July 28 2015 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 04:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:48 rsoultin wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you're shit at reading Palmar but i am wrong on him?


lol you guys love to focus in on this

i've told you why i think he's town and i've admitted i could be wrong cause i know i'm not good at reading him. so what? like, do you have a case on palmar i didn't see? i'm not just going to sheep you on him when i think he's town and i have no clue if i should trust your read over mine because i don't know how good you are at reading him. i suspect not very. he's fucking palmar -_-

I ma very good at reading Palmar.


proof or it didn't happen

i trust myself
i trust certain players on particular other players if i'm townreading them
i trust a townread palmar's d1 reads to some extent if i at least get a similar feel

like, seriously, how can you expect me to trust you when you're not even sure and you're scumreading me in the same breath for god knows what reason?

i suspect association, personally, which just makes me want to facepalm. maybe you're right on tofu but i really think clarity is the better lynch today because i see scum there where tofu could just be bad town?

here is why rsoultin is mafia.

I said this before and i say this again. I don't care to google the english words for what this is, look at foolishness' post about "book of bad arguments".

"I cant trust your other reads because you cant even read me here".

I am serious i have never seen rsoultin say anything this stupid in a game of mafia.
She is scum, i dont care what she posts. This is enough.

Palmar is also scum.


I agree that palmar is pushing a very "don't lynch tofu" agenda d1.

On July 26 2015 18:22 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 17:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 26 2015 02:55 FirmTofu wrote:
On July 26 2015 02:50 Palmar wrote:
This is kinda scummy.

On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am also a cop.


On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i mean detective fuck OP's are hard to read.


The reason being is that the latter post tries too hard to make it obvious his claim is bullshit. It's more likely that mafia would semi-waffle on their claim or make it weaker than a townie who is just trolling.

On July 25 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote:
On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
beautiful warm day
birds chirping
bugs chirring
the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes

but guys, guys, guys...

rayn is scuuum ^^


he totes just scumslipped and i'm totes 100% serious ^^

guys!

guys! guys!

listen to me...

lol more seriously, i dunnae, bf...that's a bit too obvious to really mean anything, don't you think?

-fades back into the ether-


This is also kinda scummy for almost the same reason. The overemphasis that it's a joke. I'm not going to try to hang either of them based on only this, but at least it's something.

On July 25 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote:
OH IS A POST RESTRICTED GAME!

Don't worry, we still have a storage with Onegu


This is more likely to be townbear, I can't explain exactly why and it's super weak. Just to give you an idea if everyone starts at 50/100 on the mafia scale, the people I've mentioned so far are just a few points above or below null. If I reach a strong read this readthrough I'll be sure to let you know.

Speak of the devil.

Translation: "Hey, this guy looks a little scummy and this guy looks a little towny. Don't lynch me and let me go back to my mafia corner."

Why are you giving us your town reads? How does that help us find mafia? This post you made here was completely pointless. There is nothing of substance here.

Here is why FirmTofu is mafia.
Especially the underlined part is something that is impossible for a townie to believe is true.


This makes FirmTofu dumb and bad. I don't know if it makes him mafia.


On July 27 2015 04:20 Palmar wrote:
I think we lynch one of clarity kelsier and scott.

I would love to lynch ft for being awful... But it feels like a revenge lynch to me


On July 27 2015 04:31 Palmar wrote:
Btw after some more consideration I will only vote kelsier or clarity today



there is also this connection/signalling between palmar and FT

On July 27 2015 04:17 Palmar wrote:
This kelsier case is actually good


On July 27 2015 04:29 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 04:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There are things that make people town or mafia.
Palmar did things that make him mafia to FT. Then he did some other things.
Those other things should either make him a townread, not null (like idk, he seems to be saying here, unless he is saying Palmar is still scummy).

Based on what FT said about Palmar earlier i don't believe he actually thinks Palmar did townie things (since he was pretty much just clarifying his reads and/or saying new stuff which changed nothing), or if he does, it should make him think Palmar is town, because he is now doing things against FT's original case.

I am bad at explaining shit, he is mafia.

Palmar played like mafia for the first half of the day, now he's playing like town, so he's a null read. The fact that he is playing more like a townie now does not vindicate him for his bad play earlier in the game. I'm not sure why this is so hard for him to understand.

On GB's case. His first point seems like GB is just ranting on Kelsier's personality. I don't think point 1 proves anything.

I really like point 2. This is actually why I think hopeless is town. When hopeless said something to the effect of "you're scum because you called me scum" to scott, he was behaving like a townie. He's shocked that anyone could call him scum so he immediately pounces on scott for accusing him.

Kelsier is doing the opposite. My scum sirens are blaring already.

On point 3, I think this just makes GB look super town. It's basically a "hopeless" post. Kelsier is scum because he he thinks I'm scum. It says more about GB than it does Kelsier.

On point 4, I think he's just getting really emotional at this point and really wants Kel dead. Makes me think GB is town but doesn't tell me much about Kel.

Overall, point two is powerful. I like it. I'll lynch kel.

##unvote
##vote:KelsierSC


FT spends time typing up his reasons why the case is good,it isn't then sees palmar has changed his mind

On July 27 2015 04:23 Palmar wrote:
Yeah for now im gonna vote clarity

I need to run but will be back before the deadline


QUOTE]On July 27 2015 04:39 FirmTofu wrote:
Looks like the Clarity train is catching. I am down for this as well. Let's see where this takes us.
##unvote
##vote:Clarity_nl[/QUOTE]






But then his idea that FT is just bad town isn't a totally unbelievable statement. Apparently he found GB's case on me compelling and I think clarity would have been an ok lynch.

Plus you also have town points in palmars favour

On July 27 2015 06:57 Palmar wrote:
I think a scott switch would be unadvisable.

Tofu is fine for bads
Clarity is fine for mafia
Kelsier is fine for maybe mafia

Anything else is meeeehhhh.


scott is another wagon here so arguing against it doesn't make much sense, unless scott is also mafia or he is trying to force the clarity lynch. I could check the votes at this point. But shutting down an alternative wagon doesn't seem very mafia esque.

Then FT went at palmar super hard for his first posts when no one really gave a shit about palmar. He did back off him but seems like a strange play between mafia partners.

Then finally his vote , he didn't know it ended up saving scott and getting FT lynched, but I had no idea what the vote count was and maybe palmar didn't either so he just wanted to ensure FT got lynched. which is towny.


Like I actually can't make up my mind on him. help




Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 27 2015 19:19 GMT
#797
I don't think scott is mafia though so again I can't see why mafia palmar would want to totally shutdown a scott wagon

mhmm I think palmar's town fuck it.
Zerg for Life
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 27 2015 19:28 GMT
#798
Oh man we are posting the lols?


I love to post the lols.



Lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol


I am really hoping I am the NK tonight. Would be so good and make me so happy. I can be all like bwhahahahahaha. And since I am like confirmed town and all like scum can't let me get to lylo because they know 100% I will figure the game out.

Anywho if I die lynch rsoul
Try TL Mafia!!!
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 27 2015 19:35 GMT
#799
Tomorrow I'd lynch Clarity, hopeless, GB

Town - rayn, obi, onegu, rsol, snickers, scott

probably town - bf, palmar



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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 27 2015 20:02 GMT
#800
Yeah I'm still of the mind to lynch hopeless/clarity.
Gb is a dark horse lynch for me at this juncture but he's steadily climbing my list.
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