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On July 28 2015 02:41 rsoultin wrote:
84/90
i think you're wrong, rayn, but can you explain to me why you think clarity is town?
unless it's just because you're tunneled on me, in which case your read is already based on a false premise and it's not useful to me at all -_- i'd like to hear your read on palmar unless, again, it's just associative
Double scum.
Same thing agin.
Discrediting my argument with reasoning that has nothing to do with what i said in the first place.
why cant anyone see rsoultin does "not want to trust me" because "i am untrustable as i am scumreading her"??
Attack the person, not the argument. Basic scum strategy.
Palmar mafia because not cooperating with me at all.
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On July 28 2015 05:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 02:41 rsoultin wrote:
84/90
i think you're wrong, rayn, but can you explain to me why you think clarity is town?
unless it's just because you're tunneled on me, in which case your read is already based on a false premise and it's not useful to me at all -_- i'd like to hear your read on palmar unless, again, it's just associative Double scum. Same thing agin. Discrediting my argument with reasoning that has nothing to do with what i said in the first place. why cant anyone see rsoultin does "not want to trust me" because "i am untrustable as i am scumreading her"??
Attack the person, not the argument. Basic scum strategy. Palmar mafia because not cooperating with me at all.
85/90
damn it rayn ><
why can't you english?
i am saying
that IF your reason for townreading clarity
is because you are SCUMREADING me
then you are already WRONG, and there is no reason for me to reevaluate my read
if that is not the reason i want to know what it is! why else would i ask you?
why won't you talk to me? -_- you're arguing around me again instead of just trying to talk to me
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Clarity's play makes no sense from mafia perspective.
From the beginning to this point.
It's pretty easy to tell.
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And i amnot even talking about clasrity.
Iam talking about pslmar who is mafia.
L2R.
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huge post on gb
noone cares
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86/90
i know what you're talking about -_- i asked you a question that you ignored. i don't like it when you don't talk to me, because that looks like your fucking scum game and you're making me doubt my read on you, which i really DO NOT want to do if you're actually town cause that leads me into tinfoil territory
so if you're town here, can you put your ego aside for like two seconds, realize that i thought (and still do, to some extent) your preemptive scumreads of palmar and myself were
ASSOCIATIVE
and try to actually determine my alignment with your big head instead of your small one? i mean, seriously, you're being almost as bad as snickers here -_-
explain. it's not obvious to me. to me it makes no sense from TOWN perspective, it's not like clarity plays as town, he just saw wave pull off the same bullshit he's pulling in our last scumgame, gb is actually right in his assessment of this "shoot me q.q" shit he's pulling (i've done that as scum and wave just did it as scum so don't you dare tell me scum doesn't do it)
why should palmar cooperate with you? you arbitrarily decided we were scum (as far as i can tell) because you believed tofu was scum and we preferred a different lynch
well, NEWS FLASH
there are three fucking scum in this game
if you've got a GOOD reason to townread clarity, please explain it so i can understand
and don't you DARE attempt to say you're fucking scumreading me for my reaction to YOUR FIRST AS YET UNEXPLAINED SCUMREAD and not agreeing with you on palmar WHO YOU ALSO LUMPED IN FOR NO REASON
like literally you said i was "too good" to not see that FT was scum? okay? i never said he was town. i said I THOUGHT THAT CLARITY HAD A BETTER CHANCE OF FLIPPING SCUM
and i still think he's scum
and i STILL do not trust your reads based on what appears to be association...how the fuck do you know palmar and i weren't pushing scum ourselves? you could only know that for sure AS SCUM YOURSELF
if you're town you'll actually attempt to determine my alignment instead of
USING THE EXACT SAME ARGUMENT YOU USED TO MISLYNCH ME WHEN YOU ROLLED SCUM ON VENDETTA STRADA
i'm a good player. i'm not infallible. and there's no proof i was even wrong, which wouldn't make me scum ANYWAY
did you read my reads post? do you have any comments? or are you just going to keep this nonsensical tunnel up interminably?
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On July 28 2015 05:45 boxerfred wrote:
huge post on gb
noone cares
87/90
read my reads post. i don't think gb can be scum
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Yeah i am fucking scum i just lynched scum.
Try again.
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87/90
one word: xxx
now talk to me -_-
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On July 28 2015 03:42 boxerfred wrote:
if I die in the night, read my GB case. I have a feeling I hit something.
LOL
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On July 28 2015 06:00 rsoultin wrote:
87/90
one word: xxx
now talk to me -_-
Rayn was the counter wagon to Jat though.
It's not the same thing.
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On July 28 2015 06:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Rayn was the counter wagon to Jat though. It's not the same thing.
89/90
yeah, i know
he's still refusing to actually engage with me and that IS indicative of his scum game so don't sleep on it late game if it comes to that, ows
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rsoultin many caps.
maybe mafia.
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+ Show Spoiler +On July 26 2015 06:44 Snickers wrote:
okay so here is where i am at. I am not going to post who i think is town but im at 6 people who i feel are very towny. not including myself.
as for the rest of people i would say ur crazy if you dont want to see a lot more posting from onegu and obi.
lastly i will say i do have three mafia in mind but i only want to mention that scott is probably mafia so far.
no one talk about this last part of this post but i am prty sure one person is mafia and once i make a case everyone will agree.but this is for tomorrow. On July 26 2015 10:00 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 02:50 Palmar wrote:This is kinda scummy. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am also a cop. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i mean detective fuck OP's are hard to read. The reason being is that the latter post tries too hard to make it obvious his claim is bullshit. It's more likely that mafia would semi-waffle on their claim or make it weaker than a townie who is just trolling. On July 25 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote:On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
beautiful warm day
birds chirping
bugs chirring
the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes
but guys, guys, guys...
rayn is scuuum ^^ he totes just scumslipped and i'm totes 100% serious ^^ guys! guys! guys! listen to me... lol more seriously, i dunnae, bf...that's a bit too obvious to really mean anything, don't you think? -fades back into the ether- This is also kinda scummy for almost the same reason. The overemphasis that it's a joke. I'm not going to try to hang either of them based on only this, but at least it's something. On July 25 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote:
OH IS A POST RESTRICTED GAME!
Don't worry, we still have a storage with Onegu This is more likely to be townbear, I can't explain exactly why and it's super weak. Just to give you an idea if everyone starts at 50/100 on the mafia scale, the people I've mentioned so far are just a few points above or below null. If I reach a strong read this readthrough I'll be sure to let you know. I agree with this post, although I don't like the last part, it's just too weak and I cannot reproduce it. GlowingBear gave me a hard time with this: Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 02:15 GlowingBear wrote:On July 26 2015 02:02 rsoultin wrote:On July 26 2015 02:01 GlowingBear wrote:On July 26 2015 01:50 rsoultin wrote:okay, you can be town lol >< now learn to sarcasm xP On July 25 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote:On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
beautiful warm day
birds chirping
bugs chirring
the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes
but guys, guys, guys...
rayn is scuuum ^^ he totes just scumslipped and i'm totes 100% serious ^^ guys! guys! guys! listen to me... lol more seriously, i dunnae, bf...that's a bit too obvious to really mean anything, don't you think? -fades back into the ether- ^ it's partially an inside joke and you speak Portuguese so you're somewhat forgiven, but i actually haven't been defending myself because there's nothing to defend myself from apart from idiocy as for the hopeless thing...i'm willing to lynch him, there's nothing more to be said about him and i don't like clarity now, if you're town, find another tree to bark up ^^ talk to me about clarity, actually Ok, it could be sarcasm, but what do you do of his joke? It's odd. Lemme see clarity lol, it is sarcasm. what are you asking? what do i do of whose joke what? Dear, Rayn's cop claim was a joke. He even said "oh no it's detective OP's are hard to read". I felt this joke was a bit off. But it could be town trying to generate discussion, and that's okay. But he came to the thread and said his plan was to stay in the shadows? How come he expects that he will stay in the shadows when he does a controversial joke claim in the beginning of the game? It doesn't make sense Like, one the one hand, he doesn't get the sarcasm in rsoultin's post. On the other hand, he identifies Rayn's cop claim as a joke. Why is that? The sarcasm was way easier to identify as sarcasm than the claim as a joke. Why is he so sure the claim is a joke? When I saw the claim, I was thinking "nahh, probably not cop, this op thingy is totally try-hard dumbtelling". However, seeing it as a dumbtell or as a lie - neither of that is an actual joke. Also, if that was a joke, that wouldn't just have been "a bit off", but instead a really really bad! _____________ Snickers - I don't understand him, don't understand the shitfight he kinda got into with rsoul (rsoul blocked it rather quickly, thankfully so). Would be fine with a lynch, he's causing too much trouble without actually contributing. I don't like that style at all, especially in a post restricted game - the goal for post restriction is to increase post quality and lots of his posts are just useless. _____________ Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 05:42 GlowingBear wrote:On July 26 2015 05:39 KelsierSC wrote:
simple reason why rsoul is angry? probably the same reason i appear "annoyed"
idiots and snickers. but i repeat myself Whining is 90% of what you're doing. Maybe you should move you ass and explain what is stupid in people's play Fun fact: he started off with a frustrated "I'm VT again fuck me" post. When he was scum in Gaiden, he was not whining at all. I can see town KSC do this. This, plus a tone thing which I cannot really get a grip upon as of now, make me think KSC is town. ________________ Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 06:42 Onegu wrote:On July 26 2015 06:38 Snickers wrote:
clarity why the fuck is onegu on ur do not lynch list. Because I am the uncounterclaimed named town, who claimed in my first post. No way in hell does scum onegu do that as it is suicide if I am CC. And I enjoy playing scum and dont want to get lynched day 1 or 2... This feels genuine and legit. Not lynching Onegu. ________________ As for scott: Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 01:20 scott31337 wrote:On July 25 2015 16:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Last thought before bed:
I want to know why scott gave ksc posts + what his read on ksc is now.
He had this whole bit on not liking ksc's entrance, ksc came back with "you can't find me scummy if you don't find anyone else scummy" (which makes no sense at all) and then scott immediately left him alone and gave him posts.
Made no sense at all. Not sure how this didn't make any sense - KSC posted about how he had to waste a post on replying to my post and seemed angry about it - so I gave him five posts. Does that make sense? Rsoul gets a slight townlean for now, her second list is slightly better than the first one I wasn't really caring for though. Not lynching Rayn today, probably not Onegu either - Obi's question to me was weird but I don't see any scum motivation for it. If GB doesn't show up today we can lynch him - Firm and Hopeless are on that list too. This doesn't make sense. Onegu's claim is way stronger than Rayn's claim. Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 07:13 scott31337 wrote:
Scotty's shitty spreadsheet at the moment -
1 KelsierSC null - questioned me on the VT claim, but it felt weird how he did it.
2 FirmTofu null/scumlean - little posting, nothing sticks out.
3 Onegu named town no CC, going after rsolutin for being angry too early, but she doesn't seem that angry (scummy angry) YET.
4 Snickers others like him but I don't see why? (notably Clarity, rsoul) Calls me mafia - suspicious
5 raynpelikoneet Started off good but has faided, slight town lean
6 Clarity_nl null / slight scum? Wants to lynch me
7 boxerfred Nothing special, six posts of meh - scumlean
8 ObiWanShinobi Didn't see scum motivation from his post to me - little posting - null
9 rsoultin Slight townlean, not too angry - keep an eye to see if she does the magic trick if not just lynch D4.
10 GlowingBear second part d1 looking better, not too angry either - asking townie questions - townlean
11 Palmar townlean for a Palmar d1 day.
12 scott31337 town
13 Hopeless1der scumlean, first post was bad - but suspicious/scummy voters on him so need to watch for that. Then he states one of the reasons why Onegu's claim is strong - no CC, doesn't townread him though? Then gives a town lean to rayn who "started good" - since when is a cop claim D1 good? Earlier, there was this: Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 06:52 scott31337 wrote:On July 26 2015 02:29 GlowingBear wrote:On July 26 2015 01:20 scott31337 wrote:On July 25 2015 16:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Last thought before bed:
I want to know why scott gave ksc posts + what his read on ksc is now.
He had this whole bit on not liking ksc's entrance, ksc came back with "you can't find me scummy if you don't find anyone else scummy" (which makes no sense at all) and then scott immediately left him alone and gave him posts.
Made no sense at all. Not sure how this didn't make any sense - KSC posted about how he had to waste a post on replying to my post and seemed angry about it - so I gave him five posts. Does that make sense? Rsoul gets a slight townlean for now, her second list is slightly better than the first one I wasn't really caring for though. Not lynching Rayn today, probably not Onegu either - Obi's question to me was weird but I don't see any scum motivation for it. If GB doesn't show up today we can lynch him - Firm and Hopeless are on that list too. Your reads seems fabricated. You call Kelsier out but don't put him in your lynch list. You prefer to put me on the list for a reason that doesn't make me scum, and you follow thread sentiment on hopeless, and even brings firm to the table without a good reason behind it. Can you explain these things to me? I called Kel on his VT claim and I thought that was scummy - but his responses have seemed okay. Your reponses have been pretty good today, as that you are interested in solving the game. I'm not seeing these magical townreads on Snickers - he requoted his huge ass vote post and that's half of his three page filter right there. The post I do like of his though On July 26 2015 05:49 Snickers wrote:
the amount of people that got caught up on the kelsier bs and the post giving is unreal lol And while writing this up, he goes and posts On July 26 2015 06:44 Snickers wrote:
okay so here is where i am at. I am not going to post who i think is town but im at 6 people who i feel are very towny. not including myself.
as for the rest of people i would say ur crazy if you dont want to see a lot more posting from onegu and obi.
lastly i will say i do have three mafia in mind but i only want to mention that scott is probably mafia so far.
no one talk about this last part of this post but i am prty sure one person is mafia and once i make a case everyone will agree.but this is for tomorrow. He wants me as the lynch though - and doing the Kelsier thing - "There's three mafia, one of them is scott, I don't want to name the other two, ignore this post." - I'm not going to if you call me out on it when I'm town though, buddy, or waiting until tomorrow. Okay, so what's the "Kelsier" thing? Because at first, you back off of the "are you really VT?" pressure you put on KSC, then you put out the other bolded part which does exactly what? It's hard to read, hard to understand, and does not have any real use. In the end, KSC appears in your list as a null read. I don't know why at all. Concluding, I'm gonna put my vote on scott. As for hope, I don't like his postsbecause as of now, he asks lots of questions but doesn't follow up. That might change during the next hours when he re-enters the thread. if he keeps lurking, I'm fine with a close-to-policy lynch. For now:
##Vote scott31337 On July 28 2015 02:39 boxerfred wrote:I actually think we should go for someone who tried to stop the scum train: scott31337 (4): boxerfred, Hopeless1der, FirmTofu, GlowingBear, FirmTofu That would include me. So, regarding me: - I'm town. Har har, I can tell from my role PM. - I was the first on scott so technically, I didn't jump a train but instead stayed on who I chose to vote for.
Hopeless1ider: Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 08:59 Hopeless1der wrote:
Anyone interested in contesting the claims or are we going to just ignore that? For reference, my thoughts are onegu good, rayn indifferent.
I also don't get how Palmar literally claiming Mafia is conducive to being "blunt and to the point" as town.
Or kenpachI ruling people. Someone teach me how to kenpachI rule.
This is really a concerning post. Like "interested in contesting" - the usage of this word implies that the claim is not legit. Also while it appears like a proactive thing, trying to raise interest, there is no follow up to it when such thoughts didn't get much grip. Reading his filter: He says something on palmar, then on scott (casts his vote on him), a bit on Onegut ("Null/town lean") and a bit of blabla ("can't read him") on Rayn. Lots of flailing, nothing that's really helpful for town, not in the slightest tbh. GlowingBear: Well he did a huge case on Kelsier D1, biggest argument being Show nested quote +4) HE IS VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT
HE IS FUCKING VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT. SCOTT WAS THE FIRST GUY TO ANNOY HIM (AND KELSIER WOULD LYNCH PEOPLE DOING THAT)! Why he doesn't prefer a scott lynch? Hell, a lot of people thinks he is mafia! Instead of going against the guy that certainly looked as mafia for him, he is going against questionmark!Tofu. More than that, he wasn't advocating for a lynch on Scott, but opened a range of possible lynches he would go against (tofu, scott, obi, clarity).
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, PEOPLE! COME ON!!! Well. That'd be a bit of way-too-hardcore bussing wouldn't it? Although I think KSC actually is capable of doing it, he bussed and double bussed in Gaiden, too. However how likely is it to role scum twice in a row? Not too likely. I know this is not bullet proof but it's another indicator of KSC being town. However, his case doesn't get grip. But by that time, Tofu has 5 votes upon him and it becomes rather likely that he'd be the lynch! GB knows that, he already soft defends Tofu: Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:37 GlowingBear wrote:On July 27 2015 04:33 rsoultin wrote:
@ GB
1. he's used his posts to contribute and make reads - point is wrong
2. could be if the point is the very last sentence...but i interpreted it as him saying that (scott? i think it was?) shouldn't be shutting down my reads just because he thought ksc was "scummiest"
3. yeah, null read is null here still - point is wrong
4. you're still stuck on "annoyance" meaning that ksc thinks you're scum - point is wrong
the only point that holds any water here, gb, is the second, just as rayn said, and frankly i can still easily see it coming from town so it doesn't outweigh all the things that i think makes ksc town this game Well, I think point 2 is damning enough. I can get what you're saying about the others. But, as I stated, he repeatedly deflected pressure. It wasn't only on that post. He never answered my other pushes on him, he shut snickers down too. I think it's very damning I don't see the points on tofu. I do see the point on scott Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:00 GlowingBear wrote:
Rayn we have so much information to deal with tofu tomorrow. Scott and clarity are way better lynches Then, he joins the train: Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Nah actually I'm voting tofu
I just saw that he is clearly voting every other wagon other than him.
##vote: FirmTofu He does that, being the 6th vote. He brings up a totally NEW reason though, like as if he had to justify why he jumps the train on Tofu. However 20 minutes later, he again starts soft defending Tofu, indirectly: Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar, lynch Scott
Or, if you want to do the correct thing, lynch keksier Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:39 GlowingBear wrote:
Town isn't bad, any of these options are okay lynches, I just think we have better targets other than tofu (I.e. Scummy lurkers)
The possibility of having a Mafia between one of those is high Also, note how he says "scummy lurkers" without any follow up though. Like, 0 follow up. Next up, scott: Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.
unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.
if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him. Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him. I must say I also think it could be possible Scott, who are the Mafia doing that? So the guy he wants to hang (of course along with KSC) says something about an obscure feeling and GB simply asks who scott is referring to? Well, GB (as quoted above!) actually says quite a lot of times that Tofu is not a good lynch. That clarity is better. Kelsier is better. Scott is better. How is he so sure? He then goes on with some words on mafia trying to get another train than tofu running. And BOOM, GB tries to get another train starting: Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 06:28 GlowingBear wrote:On July 27 2015 05:40 scott31337 wrote:On July 27 2015 04:44 KelsierSC wrote:
I thought scott was scummy, I posted a quote of his that was scummy.
Yes superb evidence, it really makes me look "terrible"
can we lynch tofu already. Why do I get this feeling we are right on Tofu and mafia are trying to get us to swap? On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.
unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.
if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him. Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him. On July 27 2015 05:57 scott31337 wrote:On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.
unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.
if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him. Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him. I must say I also think it could be possible Scott, who are the Mafia doing that? I do not know if you are mafia but you seem to be fighting his lynch pretty strongly (posted your case on Kelsier a couple hours ago when it looked like Tofu's getting the noose when maybe it would be better for day 2, asked rayn to vote me, asked palmar to vote me, etc.) On July 27 2015 06:14 scott31337 wrote:
I have just re-read Clarity's filter, never mind it's really bad - a vote on me and a comment on Hopeless's post (although Hopeless did a bit better) and nothing much else.
I could vote for him too. Thought process does not compute. You think Tofu is Mafia Then you say Mafia is trying to take people out of the tofu wagon. The alternate wagon is clarity. I suppose you may think Mafia could be there. But you call Mafia people that were in other wagons and does not consider people that moved to the clarity wagon. You even raise suspicions on me but you don't call me Mafia (?), what's the point then? Then you dive clarity and suddenly he is bad? What about Mafia protecting tofu by forming another wagon????? Your thought process makes no sense and it completely fits Mafia perspective GUYS VOTE SCOTT PLEASE Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 06:35 GlowingBear wrote:
I mean, if you THINK Mafia is trying to take votes off of Mafia!Tofu you MUST consider they are forming the alternate wagon INSTEAD of ignoring people forming the alternate wagon and placing votes somewhere else. There is no other option
EVEN if you believed in what you just said, it would make me completely Mafia, and not just something you would say "I don't know you're Mafia". Then other Mafia are boxerfred (?) and PROBABLY A VET? Why a vet, which vet, why not me.
Then you simply say you could lynch clarity, man. You just said Mafia was taking votes off of tofu.
You can't me town.
PEOPLE PLEASE, SCOTT CAN'T BE TOWN Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 06:45 GlowingBear wrote:On July 27 2015 06:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah we don't have the people to switch to scott.
Even then I still want to lynch FT.
Let's go with that. This is bullshit, we only need 3 more votes on scott Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 06:54 GlowingBear wrote:
God!!! It's so clear his thought process is fabricsted!!!!! Fucking vote him!!!!! So yeah. I'm pretty convinced that GB is scum.
boxer followed me to the scott train. and boxer kept calling me scum trying to defend himself but now he has never mentioned me as scum to follow it up. also check my filter i am not repeating myself but his day one was trash. 1. his big post 2. he takes a lot longer to defend himself rather than try to lynch the right fucking person
now in the night he has all of a sudden started playing ???????????????????????????????????????
now i dont want to talk about too much but lets look into obi
On July 27 2015 22:34 Snickers wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 22:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm inclined to agree with Palmar's current list.
The only things I'd change would be moving hopeless down and moving kelsier up.
Hopeless currently fits into the same heuristic as FT did - someone who posted a case for the sake of posting a case. The scenario is slightly different, considering hopeless was under pressure and FT wasn't, but it still holds because hopeless basically threw his vote down and fucked off completely after people left him alone.
If we're lynching off the FT wagon, that's where I'd look. lol
so obi told the cop the check me or rso and maybe clarity i think but they he says that i m in his top tier of two and rso right below that tier but still town. yea that makes perfect sense.
and lol again at boxer saying we are ignoring his big posts on gb. yea i guess a few lines is big compared to one liners.
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Day 2
28 July 2015
Granite Gorge, Queensland, Australia
"So this morning we're headed to Granite Gorge to check out the wallabies," I told Fidei and Tictock as we took yet another long drive, this time we stuck around Queensland. "At this section of the desert will be much safer. Chiliagoe is also an awesome place to catch more wildlife."
"I'm going to try and feed some of the wallabies," remarked Tictock, "they look pretty cute."
"We're going to be joined by Foolishness and Ver when we get down there by the way," I added. "They've been in the Outback for about a week but they are back up here. Holyflare was there earlier but he got really sick and took back for Queensland."
"Well, that's a pity, I wanted to meet him," replied Tictock, "apparently this is his third trip down here, so he has some serious interest in this sort of thing."
We continued a good 200km into the northern strip of Queensland and got a good look at packs of wallabies.
"I sorta want to take one of them home," quipped Tictock, "they are so cute."
After several hours, we drove into Chiliagoe, where we met up with the rest of the crew.
"So how much adventuring have you done?" asked Ver when we all met up for lunch at the park cafe.
"Well we wanted to go deeper into the Outback but the poacher activity has been making it unsafe." Fidei complained.
"That's why we got out of there after a week," responded Foolishness, "we have been having some major issues with the unrest with some of the local settlements, even some tour guides had to cancel on us."
"I didn't realise it had gotten that bad," I said. "Wow."
I popped my tablet and started checking the news for updates on the escalating violence in the Outback and sure enough, the latest incidents in Alice Springs and near Lake Disappointment revealed more deaths, and only now was the government mobilising more law enforcement to take action in the area.
raynpelikoneet, of the Anangu (Town Vanilla), had died in the clashes.
Day 2 has begun.
The voting thread is here.
Day 2 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
At that time, the player with the most votes gets lynched.
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On July 28 2015 06:58 Snickers wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 26 2015 06:44 Snickers wrote:
okay so here is where i am at. I am not going to post who i think is town but im at 6 people who i feel are very towny. not including myself.
as for the rest of people i would say ur crazy if you dont want to see a lot more posting from onegu and obi.
lastly i will say i do have three mafia in mind but i only want to mention that scott is probably mafia so far.
no one talk about this last part of this post but i am prty sure one person is mafia and once i make a case everyone will agree.but this is for tomorrow. On July 26 2015 10:00 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 02:50 Palmar wrote:This is kinda scummy. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am also a cop. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i mean detective fuck OP's are hard to read. The reason being is that the latter post tries too hard to make it obvious his claim is bullshit. It's more likely that mafia would semi-waffle on their claim or make it weaker than a townie who is just trolling. On July 25 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote:On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
beautiful warm day
birds chirping
bugs chirring
the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes
but guys, guys, guys...
rayn is scuuum ^^ he totes just scumslipped and i'm totes 100% serious ^^ guys! guys! guys! listen to me... lol more seriously, i dunnae, bf...that's a bit too obvious to really mean anything, don't you think? -fades back into the ether- This is also kinda scummy for almost the same reason. The overemphasis that it's a joke. I'm not going to try to hang either of them based on only this, but at least it's something. On July 25 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote:
OH IS A POST RESTRICTED GAME!
Don't worry, we still have a storage with Onegu This is more likely to be townbear, I can't explain exactly why and it's super weak. Just to give you an idea if everyone starts at 50/100 on the mafia scale, the people I've mentioned so far are just a few points above or below null. If I reach a strong read this readthrough I'll be sure to let you know. I agree with this post, although I don't like the last part, it's just too weak and I cannot reproduce it. GlowingBear gave me a hard time with this: Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 02:15 GlowingBear wrote:On July 26 2015 02:02 rsoultin wrote:On July 26 2015 02:01 GlowingBear wrote:On July 26 2015 01:50 rsoultin wrote:okay, you can be town lol >< now learn to sarcasm xP On July 25 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote:On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
beautiful warm day
birds chirping
bugs chirring
the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes
but guys, guys, guys...
rayn is scuuum ^^ he totes just scumslipped and i'm totes 100% serious ^^ guys! guys! guys! listen to me... lol more seriously, i dunnae, bf...that's a bit too obvious to really mean anything, don't you think? -fades back into the ether- ^ it's partially an inside joke and you speak Portuguese so you're somewhat forgiven, but i actually haven't been defending myself because there's nothing to defend myself from apart from idiocy as for the hopeless thing...i'm willing to lynch him, there's nothing more to be said about him and i don't like clarity now, if you're town, find another tree to bark up ^^ talk to me about clarity, actually Ok, it could be sarcasm, but what do you do of his joke? It's odd. Lemme see clarity lol, it is sarcasm. what are you asking? what do i do of whose joke what? Dear, Rayn's cop claim was a joke. He even said "oh no it's detective OP's are hard to read". I felt this joke was a bit off. But it could be town trying to generate discussion, and that's okay. But he came to the thread and said his plan was to stay in the shadows? How come he expects that he will stay in the shadows when he does a controversial joke claim in the beginning of the game? It doesn't make sense Like, one the one hand, he doesn't get the sarcasm in rsoultin's post. On the other hand, he identifies Rayn's cop claim as a joke. Why is that? The sarcasm was way easier to identify as sarcasm than the claim as a joke. Why is he so sure the claim is a joke? When I saw the claim, I was thinking "nahh, probably not cop, this op thingy is totally try-hard dumbtelling". However, seeing it as a dumbtell or as a lie - neither of that is an actual joke. Also, if that was a joke, that wouldn't just have been "a bit off", but instead a really really bad! _____________ Snickers - I don't understand him, don't understand the shitfight he kinda got into with rsoul (rsoul blocked it rather quickly, thankfully so). Would be fine with a lynch, he's causing too much trouble without actually contributing. I don't like that style at all, especially in a post restricted game - the goal for post restriction is to increase post quality and lots of his posts are just useless. _____________ Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 05:42 GlowingBear wrote:On July 26 2015 05:39 KelsierSC wrote:
simple reason why rsoul is angry? probably the same reason i appear "annoyed"
idiots and snickers. but i repeat myself Whining is 90% of what you're doing. Maybe you should move you ass and explain what is stupid in people's play Fun fact: he started off with a frustrated "I'm VT again fuck me" post. When he was scum in Gaiden, he was not whining at all. I can see town KSC do this. This, plus a tone thing which I cannot really get a grip upon as of now, make me think KSC is town. ________________ Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 06:42 Onegu wrote:On July 26 2015 06:38 Snickers wrote:
clarity why the fuck is onegu on ur do not lynch list. Because I am the uncounterclaimed named town, who claimed in my first post. No way in hell does scum onegu do that as it is suicide if I am CC. And I enjoy playing scum and dont want to get lynched day 1 or 2... This feels genuine and legit. Not lynching Onegu. ________________ As for scott: Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 01:20 scott31337 wrote:On July 25 2015 16:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Last thought before bed:
I want to know why scott gave ksc posts + what his read on ksc is now.
He had this whole bit on not liking ksc's entrance, ksc came back with "you can't find me scummy if you don't find anyone else scummy" (which makes no sense at all) and then scott immediately left him alone and gave him posts.
Made no sense at all. Not sure how this didn't make any sense - KSC posted about how he had to waste a post on replying to my post and seemed angry about it - so I gave him five posts. Does that make sense? Rsoul gets a slight townlean for now, her second list is slightly better than the first one I wasn't really caring for though. Not lynching Rayn today, probably not Onegu either - Obi's question to me was weird but I don't see any scum motivation for it. If GB doesn't show up today we can lynch him - Firm and Hopeless are on that list too. This doesn't make sense. Onegu's claim is way stronger than Rayn's claim. Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 07:13 scott31337 wrote:
Scotty's shitty spreadsheet at the moment -
1 KelsierSC null - questioned me on the VT claim, but it felt weird how he did it.
2 FirmTofu null/scumlean - little posting, nothing sticks out.
3 Onegu named town no CC, going after rsolutin for being angry too early, but she doesn't seem that angry (scummy angry) YET.
4 Snickers others like him but I don't see why? (notably Clarity, rsoul) Calls me mafia - suspicious
5 raynpelikoneet Started off good but has faided, slight town lean
6 Clarity_nl null / slight scum? Wants to lynch me
7 boxerfred Nothing special, six posts of meh - scumlean
8 ObiWanShinobi Didn't see scum motivation from his post to me - little posting - null
9 rsoultin Slight townlean, not too angry - keep an eye to see if she does the magic trick if not just lynch D4.
10 GlowingBear second part d1 looking better, not too angry either - asking townie questions - townlean
11 Palmar townlean for a Palmar d1 day.
12 scott31337 town
13 Hopeless1der scumlean, first post was bad - but suspicious/scummy voters on him so need to watch for that. Then he states one of the reasons why Onegu's claim is strong - no CC, doesn't townread him though? Then gives a town lean to rayn who "started good" - since when is a cop claim D1 good? Earlier, there was this: Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 06:52 scott31337 wrote:On July 26 2015 02:29 GlowingBear wrote:On July 26 2015 01:20 scott31337 wrote:On July 25 2015 16:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Last thought before bed:
I want to know why scott gave ksc posts + what his read on ksc is now.
He had this whole bit on not liking ksc's entrance, ksc came back with "you can't find me scummy if you don't find anyone else scummy" (which makes no sense at all) and then scott immediately left him alone and gave him posts.
Made no sense at all. Not sure how this didn't make any sense - KSC posted about how he had to waste a post on replying to my post and seemed angry about it - so I gave him five posts. Does that make sense? Rsoul gets a slight townlean for now, her second list is slightly better than the first one I wasn't really caring for though. Not lynching Rayn today, probably not Onegu either - Obi's question to me was weird but I don't see any scum motivation for it. If GB doesn't show up today we can lynch him - Firm and Hopeless are on that list too. Your reads seems fabricated. You call Kelsier out but don't put him in your lynch list. You prefer to put me on the list for a reason that doesn't make me scum, and you follow thread sentiment on hopeless, and even brings firm to the table without a good reason behind it. Can you explain these things to me? I called Kel on his VT claim and I thought that was scummy - but his responses have seemed okay. Your reponses have been pretty good today, as that you are interested in solving the game. I'm not seeing these magical townreads on Snickers - he requoted his huge ass vote post and that's half of his three page filter right there. The post I do like of his though On July 26 2015 05:49 Snickers wrote:
the amount of people that got caught up on the kelsier bs and the post giving is unreal lol And while writing this up, he goes and posts On July 26 2015 06:44 Snickers wrote:
okay so here is where i am at. I am not going to post who i think is town but im at 6 people who i feel are very towny. not including myself.
as for the rest of people i would say ur crazy if you dont want to see a lot more posting from onegu and obi.
lastly i will say i do have three mafia in mind but i only want to mention that scott is probably mafia so far.
no one talk about this last part of this post but i am prty sure one person is mafia and once i make a case everyone will agree.but this is for tomorrow. He wants me as the lynch though - and doing the Kelsier thing - "There's three mafia, one of them is scott, I don't want to name the other two, ignore this post." - I'm not going to if you call me out on it when I'm town though, buddy, or waiting until tomorrow. Okay, so what's the "Kelsier" thing? Because at first, you back off of the "are you really VT?" pressure you put on KSC, then you put out the other bolded part which does exactly what? It's hard to read, hard to understand, and does not have any real use. In the end, KSC appears in your list as a null read. I don't know why at all. Concluding, I'm gonna put my vote on scott. As for hope, I don't like his postsbecause as of now, he asks lots of questions but doesn't follow up. That might change during the next hours when he re-enters the thread. if he keeps lurking, I'm fine with a close-to-policy lynch. For now:
##Vote scott31337 On July 28 2015 02:39 boxerfred wrote:I actually think we should go for someone who tried to stop the scum train: scott31337 (4): boxerfred, Hopeless1der, FirmTofu, GlowingBear, FirmTofu That would include me. So, regarding me: - I'm town. Har har, I can tell from my role PM. - I was the first on scott so technically, I didn't jump a train but instead stayed on who I chose to vote for.
Hopeless1ider: Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 08:59 Hopeless1der wrote:
Anyone interested in contesting the claims or are we going to just ignore that? For reference, my thoughts are onegu good, rayn indifferent.
I also don't get how Palmar literally claiming Mafia is conducive to being "blunt and to the point" as town.
Or kenpachI ruling people. Someone teach me how to kenpachI rule.
This is really a concerning post. Like "interested in contesting" - the usage of this word implies that the claim is not legit. Also while it appears like a proactive thing, trying to raise interest, there is no follow up to it when such thoughts didn't get much grip. Reading his filter: He says something on palmar, then on scott (casts his vote on him), a bit on Onegut ("Null/town lean") and a bit of blabla ("can't read him") on Rayn. Lots of flailing, nothing that's really helpful for town, not in the slightest tbh. GlowingBear: Well he did a huge case on Kelsier D1, biggest argument being Show nested quote +4) HE IS VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT
HE IS FUCKING VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT. SCOTT WAS THE FIRST GUY TO ANNOY HIM (AND KELSIER WOULD LYNCH PEOPLE DOING THAT)! Why he doesn't prefer a scott lynch? Hell, a lot of people thinks he is mafia! Instead of going against the guy that certainly looked as mafia for him, he is going against questionmark!Tofu. More than that, he wasn't advocating for a lynch on Scott, but opened a range of possible lynches he would go against (tofu, scott, obi, clarity).
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, PEOPLE! COME ON!!! Well. That'd be a bit of way-too-hardcore bussing wouldn't it? Although I think KSC actually is capable of doing it, he bussed and double bussed in Gaiden, too. However how likely is it to role scum twice in a row? Not too likely. I know this is not bullet proof but it's another indicator of KSC being town. However, his case doesn't get grip. But by that time, Tofu has 5 votes upon him and it becomes rather likely that he'd be the lynch! GB knows that, he already soft defends Tofu: Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:37 GlowingBear wrote:On July 27 2015 04:33 rsoultin wrote:
@ GB
1. he's used his posts to contribute and make reads - point is wrong
2. could be if the point is the very last sentence...but i interpreted it as him saying that (scott? i think it was?) shouldn't be shutting down my reads just because he thought ksc was "scummiest"
3. yeah, null read is null here still - point is wrong
4. you're still stuck on "annoyance" meaning that ksc thinks you're scum - point is wrong
the only point that holds any water here, gb, is the second, just as rayn said, and frankly i can still easily see it coming from town so it doesn't outweigh all the things that i think makes ksc town this game Well, I think point 2 is damning enough. I can get what you're saying about the others. But, as I stated, he repeatedly deflected pressure. It wasn't only on that post. He never answered my other pushes on him, he shut snickers down too. I think it's very damning I don't see the points on tofu. I do see the point on scott Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:00 GlowingBear wrote:
Rayn we have so much information to deal with tofu tomorrow. Scott and clarity are way better lynches Then, he joins the train: Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Nah actually I'm voting tofu
I just saw that he is clearly voting every other wagon other than him.
##vote: FirmTofu He does that, being the 6th vote. He brings up a totally NEW reason though, like as if he had to justify why he jumps the train on Tofu. However 20 minutes later, he again starts soft defending Tofu, indirectly: Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar, lynch Scott
Or, if you want to do the correct thing, lynch keksier Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:39 GlowingBear wrote:
Town isn't bad, any of these options are okay lynches, I just think we have better targets other than tofu (I.e. Scummy lurkers)
The possibility of having a Mafia between one of those is high Also, note how he says "scummy lurkers" without any follow up though. Like, 0 follow up. Next up, scott: Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.
unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.
if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him. Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him. I must say I also think it could be possible Scott, who are the Mafia doing that? So the guy he wants to hang (of course along with KSC) says something about an obscure feeling and GB simply asks who scott is referring to? Well, GB (as quoted above!) actually says quite a lot of times that Tofu is not a good lynch. That clarity is better. Kelsier is better. Scott is better. How is he so sure? He then goes on with some words on mafia trying to get another train than tofu running. And BOOM, GB tries to get another train starting: Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 06:28 GlowingBear wrote:On July 27 2015 05:40 scott31337 wrote:On July 27 2015 04:44 KelsierSC wrote:
I thought scott was scummy, I posted a quote of his that was scummy.
Yes superb evidence, it really makes me look "terrible"
can we lynch tofu already. Why do I get this feeling we are right on Tofu and mafia are trying to get us to swap? On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.
unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.
if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him. Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him. On July 27 2015 05:57 scott31337 wrote:On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.
unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.
if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him. Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him. I must say I also think it could be possible Scott, who are the Mafia doing that? I do not know if you are mafia but you seem to be fighting his lynch pretty strongly (posted your case on Kelsier a couple hours ago when it looked like Tofu's getting the noose when maybe it would be better for day 2, asked rayn to vote me, asked palmar to vote me, etc.) On July 27 2015 06:14 scott31337 wrote:
I have just re-read Clarity's filter, never mind it's really bad - a vote on me and a comment on Hopeless's post (although Hopeless did a bit better) and nothing much else.
I could vote for him too. Thought process does not compute. You think Tofu is Mafia Then you say Mafia is trying to take people out of the tofu wagon. The alternate wagon is clarity. I suppose you may think Mafia could be there. But you call Mafia people that were in other wagons and does not consider people that moved to the clarity wagon. You even raise suspicions on me but you don't call me Mafia (?), what's the point then? Then you dive clarity and suddenly he is bad? What about Mafia protecting tofu by forming another wagon????? Your thought process makes no sense and it completely fits Mafia perspective GUYS VOTE SCOTT PLEASE Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 06:35 GlowingBear wrote:
I mean, if you THINK Mafia is trying to take votes off of Mafia!Tofu you MUST consider they are forming the alternate wagon INSTEAD of ignoring people forming the alternate wagon and placing votes somewhere else. There is no other option
EVEN if you believed in what you just said, it would make me completely Mafia, and not just something you would say "I don't know you're Mafia". Then other Mafia are boxerfred (?) and PROBABLY A VET? Why a vet, which vet, why not me.
Then you simply say you could lynch clarity, man. You just said Mafia was taking votes off of tofu.
You can't me town.
PEOPLE PLEASE, SCOTT CAN'T BE TOWN Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 06:45 GlowingBear wrote:On July 27 2015 06:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah we don't have the people to switch to scott.
Even then I still want to lynch FT.
Let's go with that. This is bullshit, we only need 3 more votes on scott Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 06:54 GlowingBear wrote:
God!!! It's so clear his thought process is fabricsted!!!!! Fucking vote him!!!!! So yeah. I'm pretty convinced that GB is scum. boxer followed me to the scott train. and boxer kept calling me scum trying to defend himself but now he has never mentioned me as scum to follow it up. also check my filter i am not repeating myself but his day one was trash. 1. his big post 2. he takes a lot longer to defend himself rather than try to lynch the right fucking person now in the night he has all of a sudden started playing ??????????????????????????????????????? now i dont want to talk about too much but lets look into obi Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 22:34 Snickers wrote:On July 27 2015 22:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm inclined to agree with Palmar's current list.
The only things I'd change would be moving hopeless down and moving kelsier up.
Hopeless currently fits into the same heuristic as FT did - someone who posted a case for the sake of posting a case. The scenario is slightly different, considering hopeless was under pressure and FT wasn't, but it still holds because hopeless basically threw his vote down and fucked off completely after people left him alone.
If we're lynching off the FT wagon, that's where I'd look. lol so obi told the cop the check me or rso and maybe clarity i think but they he says that i m in his top tier of two and rso right below that tier but still town. yea that makes perfect sense. and lol again at boxer saying we are ignoring his big posts on gb. yea i guess a few lines is big compared to one liners.
1. i didn't "follow" you on scott.
2. i didn't say you're scum I said I'm fine with lynching you. That is because you're stupid af and throw out such a huge pile of bull shit that I will ignore you.
3. you ignored my post where i even brought up reasons why you are wrong. gtfo
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On July 28 2015 03:42 boxerfred wrote:
if I die in the night, read my GB case. I have a feeling I hit something.
A tree, probably. Check if you have any internal bleeding
God I was waiting until day post to make the joke
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