EPTMini Mafia Down Under 3 - Page 27
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
I have to get up at 4am, i am going soon, i need your input. I hate rsoultin is not here and Clarity is probably scum. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
I would love to lynch ft for being awful... But it feels like a revenge lynch to me | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On July 27 2015 04:17 KelsierSC wrote: obi can you tell me why you think ft is the better lynch over scott? What changed your mind? I said I wanted to lynch both of them. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
I need to run but will be back before the deadline | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On July 27 2015 04:23 Palmar wrote: Yeah for now im gonna vote clarity I need to run but will be back before the deadline Why? I feel like I've asked like 3459863498 times but nobody has answered me. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
why is noone i expect to play is playing?  | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On July 27 2015 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar are you sure Kelsier is more likely to be mafia than FT is? I have to get up at 4am, i am going soon, i need your input. I hate rsoultin is not here and Clarity is probably scum. lol i'm here...i actually had a social life this weekend, wonder of wonders eh, i didn't like gb's case on ksc :/ blah, but that's more because it seems to me that gb isn't understanding what's being said in a lot of kelsier's posts. i guess i could be somewhat pocketed here but i don't think so? | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On July 27 2015 04:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: goddamn Palmar. At least comment on what i said about FT?!?!? why is noone i expect to play is playing? Well you have me. :> Why is clarity probably scum? | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
Everyone NOT voting Kelsier needs to tell me either why my points doesn't hold water or why someone else is a better lynch. He is goddammn Mafia!!! | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On July 26 2015 11:21 Snickers wrote: Boxer is mafia. why? because everything he has done is to benefit himself and not town.His reads / posts are not helpful at all. so he feels the need to share this information with us. but then I call him scum. and wow he pops into the thread a few hours later. and he never mentions something like.... "oh wow i got sick today and couldnt go to work" so he feels the need to share why he is gone but not why he all of a sudden shows up. On July 25 2015 07:45 boxerfred wrote: Hmpf, I just now see the "lol more seriously" part of your post, so nvm I guess. This is one. ONE. Post after I asked rsoul for the "too obvious" thing. Makes your awesome "look he's lieing big time" theory look bad. Or stupid. As you prefer. On July 26 2015 11:21 Snickers wrote: informs us again he is gone and assures us he is drunk probably he is trying to coast into the night be like "oh fuck i had such a bad hangover" extremely scummy for ur first serious post to have a fucking vote in it? why does he only have one serious post. well read his (5?) one liners and he also said he wants to focus on big posts in the pre game. Now here comes his big post at a fun time. 1. Me bringing up the post you for some reason missed makes your "LOOK HE'S DOING IT AGAIN" post invalid. But okay, I "pop in a few hours later" after you call me scum. Whoa, you caught me. Dude, it's normal to pop in to the thread "some hours later" and it's completely irrelevant if someone calls me scum or town or anything in that time. 2. Also I said I want to focus on big posts and look what I did, I did a huge post. You're just bullshitting about some weird timing things that are nonexistant. there is so much shit wrong with this. Again first serious post = vote. Also just fucking looking at it before reading it made me fucking cringe cause i can post at least one other post that is so identical to this from another mafia. (the guy was also german and he had excuse galores too) his first two points in the post is literally him commenting on the game. which is extremetly scummy. he is pratically asking us questions on what we think about this rather than him assertng anything. and holy shit he is just quoting people instead of picking up on something new. now onto the part about me. makes me looks worse and rsoul look better. its filled with a bunch of bs. snickers is wasting posts.... he doesnt even show an example and he does the dumbtell of snickers is wasting posts. well good job being less efficient with ur one post than i have with my w/e the fuck. I really think ur going to run out of votes at this fucking rate boxer. he thinks ksc is town welcome to mafia down under 3 he is protecting onegu here but if u actually thought about onegu's original post and how he dodged my follow up questions it makes onegu look super fucking scummy if you want i will explain why onegu looks scummy if you dont see it. says onegu claim is stronger than rains but back it up with no fucking facts. mind you hes still on stuff from what the first page of the game? next part. rains claim was a fucking joke stop fucking talking about it. and this is a semi open game who the fuck cares onegu claimed named town. why did he claim it? to make himself look town which he isnt. oh and he wants to lynch hopeless who is the easy lynch but probably wouldnt reveal shit. maybes hope is scum but there are many others comparable to his posts. and he talks about no follow up = scummy except he doesnt know what a follow up is. lynch him plz. and realize onegu claim is fake as shit This whole paragraph is one big pile of shit. You're fabricating a weak as fuck case on me, including lies, not reading properly, making shit up, having a kind of ad hom tone. This is not even something I see as a "dumb town" move. I'm fine with a scott or snickers lynch people. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On July 27 2015 04:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: There are things that make people town or mafia. Palmar did things that make him mafia to FT. Then he did some other things. Those other things should either make him a townread, not null (like idk, he seems to be saying here, unless he is saying Palmar is still scummy). Based on what FT said about Palmar earlier i don't believe he actually thinks Palmar did townie things (since he was pretty much just clarifying his reads and/or saying new stuff which changed nothing), or if he does, it should make him think Palmar is town, because he is now doing things against FT's original case. I am bad at explaining shit, he is mafia. Palmar played like mafia for the first half of the day, now he's playing like town, so he's a null read. The fact that he is playing more like a townie now does not vindicate him for his bad play earlier in the game. I'm not sure why this is so hard for him to understand. On GB's case. His first point seems like GB is just ranting on Kelsier's personality. I don't think point 1 proves anything. I really like point 2. This is actually why I think hopeless is town. When hopeless said something to the effect of "you're scum because you called me scum" to scott, he was behaving like a townie. He's shocked that anyone could call him scum so he immediately pounces on scott for accusing him. Kelsier is doing the opposite. My scum sirens are blaring already. On point 3, I think this just makes GB look super town. It's basically a "hopeless" post. Kelsier is scum because he he thinks I'm scum. It says more about GB than it does Kelsier. On point 4, I think he's just getting really emotional at this point and really wants Kel dead. Makes me think GB is town but doesn't tell me much about Kel. Overall, point two is powerful. I like it. I'll lynch kel. ##unvote ##vote:KelsierSC | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On July 27 2015 04:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: goddamn Palmar. At least comment on what i said about FT?!?!? why is noone i expect to play is playing? i need you to articulate it better for me, rayn how is the thought process contradictory? his explanation for it (palmar having new reads on people he was actually interested in) seemed okay? granted, it's obvious palmar won't be lynched and it's pretty coincidental that he doesn't seem to think he's scum anymore | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On July 27 2015 03:46 GlowingBear wrote: .:Case on KelsierSC:. 1) Constantly whining about having to waste posts with bad things without actually using his remaining 50+ posts for anything else + Show Spoiler + On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote: It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with. After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both. bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me. scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum? On July 25 2015 19:21 KelsierSC wrote: Seems like a really important use of your time. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/489370-lost-but-not-forgotten-mini-mafia?user=KelsierSC On July 25 2015 19:39 KelsierSC wrote: See the better question would be , do you have any reads yet? Because that might be something interesting, instead your question looks to misrepresent what has actually happened in the game. unfortunately everyone is playing like shit so I have absolutely no one as town. If he is so worried about wasting posts with useless stuff, WHY DOES HE WASTE POSTS TO KEEP SAYING HE IS ANNOYED? "Yes, one person is enough to annoy me", really? Why is he so annoyed, man? "Everybody is playing like shit". No, nobody is playing like shit in this game. This game is pretty concise and to the point. His annoyance is unjustified, it's ridiculous. Looks like mafia trying to fake being emotional. 2) Deflecting any early suspicions brought on him + guilty conscience THIS IS HIS SECOND POST IN THE GAME! This is an unnatural reaction to what scott posted. In town mindset, the reaction I would expect would be "then you're stupid because I'm town" and not "ok, you think I'm scum, am I the only one lol". It reveals mafia's guilty conscience. More than that, and more important, it is a deflection of early pressure. He sees someone calling him scum and softly tries to shift pressure to someone else. If you ask "am I the only one?" a common response would be "no, I didn't like X as well" and if they keep talking about X, the pressure is shifted. The same reaction can be seen here: + Show Spoiler + On July 25 2015 19:54 KelsierSC wrote: This isn't going to lead to anything productive so I think it's best to just end it here. It can be interpreted in both ways: town not wanting to shit the thread, or scum deflecting pressure. Since Kelsier already displayed the deflection behaviour, the second option is more likely. 3) Wanting to lynch me then backtracking when having no reasons to + Show Spoiler + On July 26 2015 03:00 KelsierSC wrote: Lol I think palmar is town I want to ask snickers why he thinks defending yourself makes you mafia? I was going to say I like the new guy early on but his like second attack on palmar after he posted felt really forced. you scum read palmar for having a "skimpy" (awesome word) filter, now he is here to contribute going crazy on him feels like an overcompensation. I don't like Glowingbear so would happily lynch him. On July 26 2015 03:13 KelsierSC wrote: well he is here reading the game and giving leans either way on quite a few players. your contribution so far has been to attack palmar for a small filter, and now he is here to attack him again. Like I said it didn't really make sense. From my perspective if I had someone as scum for being skimpy i'd give them more of a chance to post and maybe read some other players, not just tunnel the shit out of them. The way you acted, didn't feel correct. @snickers - You called rsoul mafia for defending herself and you seemed to have a problem when you thought I was doing it the fact you even asked me to qualify that statement is suspicous. so tell me why does it make people scummy. GB - because I read your posts and they felt stupid On July 26 2015 05:39 KelsierSC wrote: simple reason why rsoul is angry? probably the same reason i appear "annoyed" idiots and snickers. but i repeat myself On July 26 2015 21:14 KelsierSC wrote: This is a really good post. Snickers I think you're town and I love the energy you're bringing but Onegu is not the lynch today. I'd lynch Scott or Tofu. Scott is partly because of his early play which I questioned him on and I think rayn's point about his spreadsheet is good. Tofu, his second "push" on palmar felt bad. his secondary scum also felt like he didn't really give a shit "rayn's been quiet"...yeh well it's a post restricted game but rayn had stepped up by that point. Then a throw away bf has a small filter. I don't like obi either People I think are town rayn, rsol, snickers, onegu, palmar there are others that I should try to work out; hopeless, clarity, obi, bf. I want to read more from them. GB you can just say nothing and that would be fine. The progression is this, for people that doesn't want to read the posts: Kelsier says he doesn't like me and he would lynch me happily. I ask him why he doesn't like me. He says everything I post looks stupid. I asked him what is stupid in them and why does that makes me mafia. He said it doesn't make me mafia but he would lynch me anyway, and that he is annoyed because idiots (like me) are annoying him, but never says what are the problems with my posts. He then comes to the thread and says he wants to lynch "hopeless, clarity, obi and bf", not wanting to lynch me. It's simple: he said he didn't like me hoping to have me as an option for mislynch. When I confront it, he says I look stupid but he forgets it's something he doesn't believe is alignment indicative for me. Then he says he would lynch me anyway implying that I annoy him. Well, I wasn't raising suspicions on him since that time. Now I've being pressuring him for the rest of day1 and he doesn't want to lynch me anymore LOL. He is not annoyed with it. What I mean with this is: his actions does not follows his discourse, which is mostly a scum trait. Add to this the fact that he answers almost NOTHING of my posts directed to him. He just deflects them, adding to point (2) of this case. 4) HE IS VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT HE IS FUCKING VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT. SCOTT WAS THE FIRST GUY TO ANNOY HIM (AND KELSIER WOULD LYNCH PEOPLE DOING THAT)! Why he doesn't prefer a scott lynch? Hell, a lot of people thinks he is mafia! Instead of going against the guy that certainly looked as mafia for him, he is going against questionmark!Tofu. More than that, he wasn't advocating for a lynch on Scott, but opened a range of possible lynches he would go against (tofu, scott, obi, clarity). IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, PEOPLE! COME ON!!! + Show Spoiler [WIFOM] + Points on Kelsier were brought many times and no one quickly jumped on it, not even Scott, who was suspicions on Kelsier in the first place. The quick and unreasonable town reads Kelsier got points out that scum didn't want him as a possible mislynch. I am POSITIVE Kelsier is mafia. Vote him with me. ##Vote: KelsierSC 1. I didn't "constantly whine about wasting posts" I made one comment because it was a stupid point and boxerfred couldn't look up a game from last week. At the time I posted "everyone was playing shit" I didn't have one single person as town because people kept posting stupid things. 2. I thought scott had posted scummy things, I quoted something he posted that didn't make sense. I'm giving scum leans snickers posting wasn't productive so I ended that whole argument 3. You are an idiot, that is why I would lynch you, it doesn't matter your alignment. If you are mafia I would happily lynch you. If you are town, you are a complete imbecile who will spout nonsense and actively harm town, for example , making terrible cases against people who are town. so I would happily lynch you. 4. I would lynch tofu or scott, at the time I was in the thread I thought tofu was the better lynch and voted him. you can sit down and be quiet now. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On July 27 2015 04:27 rsoultin wrote: lol i'm here...i actually had a social life this weekend, wonder of wonders eh, i didn't like gb's case on ksc :/ blah, but that's more because it seems to me that gb isn't understanding what's being said in a lot of kelsier's posts. i guess i could be somewhat pocketed here but i don't think so? Tell me what I'm not understanding, then. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On July 27 2015 04:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Why? I feel like I've asked like 3459863498 times but nobody has answered me. Because he's not trying to solve the game or really helping much at all And unlike FT I know he's not awful. | ||
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