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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On July 27 2015 04:43 FirmTofu wrote: Calling this game now. Mafia team is Clarity, scott, and Kelsier. It's just so perfect. And this doesn't make any fucking sense at all. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
Yes superb evidence, it really makes me look "terrible" can we lynch tofu already. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On July 27 2015 04:40 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 27 2015 04:39 GlowingBear wrote: On July 27 2015 04:36 KelsierSC wrote: On July 27 2015 04:34 GlowingBear wrote: On July 27 2015 04:29 KelsierSC wrote: On July 27 2015 03:46 GlowingBear wrote: .:Case on KelsierSC:. 1) Constantly whining about having to waste posts with bad things without actually using his remaining 50+ posts for anything else + Show Spoiler + On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote: It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with. After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both. bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me. scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote: Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far. considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum? On July 25 2015 19:21 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 16:50 boxerfred wrote: Kelsier, I couldn't find a game where you roll VT and claim it D1, though you have had "VT 3 times in a row" games before. Seems like a really important use of your time. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/489370-lost-but-not-forgotten-mini-mafia?user=KelsierSC On July 25 2015 19:39 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 19:27 Snickers wrote: what is with you defending yourself more than anything else See the better question would be , do you have any reads yet? Because that might be something interesting, instead your question looks to misrepresent what has actually happened in the game. unfortunately everyone is playing like shit so I have absolutely no one as town. On July 25 2015 20:10 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 19:57 Snickers wrote: On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote: It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with. After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both. bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me. scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly On July 25 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote: Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far. considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum? okay so lets start with this. One simple post. ur talking about wasting ur post which most people would find slightly scummy. your post has a complaining tone to it even though we are not even a 20 posts into the game. "two people" mention it but you think it is enough to get angry about. one of the two people you say has a silly post? so following your thought process one person is enough to make you angry and have to fill a post with weird stuff. Also one person making you mad when there is three scum..... yes one person is enough to annoy me If he is so worried about wasting posts with useless stuff, WHY DOES HE WASTE POSTS TO KEEP SAYING HE IS ANNOYED? "Yes, one person is enough to annoy me", really? Why is he so annoyed, man? "Everybody is playing like shit". No, nobody is playing like shit in this game. This game is pretty concise and to the point. His annoyance is unjustified, it's ridiculous. Looks like mafia trying to fake being emotional. 2) Deflecting any early suspicions brought on him + guilty conscience On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote: It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with. After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both. bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me. scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly On July 25 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote: Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far. considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum? THIS IS HIS SECOND POST IN THE GAME! This is an unnatural reaction to what scott posted. In town mindset, the reaction I would expect would be "then you're stupid because I'm town" and not "ok, you think I'm scum, am I the only one lol". It reveals mafia's guilty conscience. More than that, and more important, it is a deflection of early pressure. He sees someone calling him scum and softly tries to shift pressure to someone else. If you ask "am I the only one?" a common response would be "no, I didn't like X as well" and if they keep talking about X, the pressure is shifted. The same reaction can be seen here: + Show Spoiler + On July 25 2015 19:54 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 19:50 Snickers wrote: complains about shit play continues shit play This isn't going to lead to anything productive so I think it's best to just end it here. It can be interpreted in both ways: town not wanting to shit the thread, or scum deflecting pressure. Since Kelsier already displayed the deflection behaviour, the second option is more likely. 3) Wanting to lynch me then backtracking when having no reasons to + Show Spoiler + On July 26 2015 03:00 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2015 02:56 Palmar wrote: On July 26 2015 02:55 FirmTofu wrote: On July 26 2015 02:50 Palmar wrote: This is kinda scummy. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am also a cop. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: i mean detective fuck OP's are hard to read. The reason being is that the latter post tries too hard to make it obvious his claim is bullshit. It's more likely that mafia would semi-waffle on their claim or make it weaker than a townie who is just trolling. On July 25 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote: On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote: beautiful warm day birds chirping bugs chirring the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes but guys, guys, guys... rayn is scuuum ^^ he totes just scumslipped and i'm totes 100% serious ^^ guys! guys! guys! listen to me... lol more seriously, i dunnae, bf...that's a bit too obvious to really mean anything, don't you think? -fades back into the ether- This is also kinda scummy for almost the same reason. The overemphasis that it's a joke. I'm not going to try to hang either of them based on only this, but at least it's something. On July 25 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote: OH IS A POST RESTRICTED GAME! Don't worry, we still have a storage with Onegu This is more likely to be townbear, I can't explain exactly why and it's super weak. Just to give you an idea if everyone starts at 50/100 on the mafia scale, the people I've mentioned so far are just a few points above or below null. If I reach a strong read this readthrough I'll be sure to let you know. Speak of the devil. Translation: "Hey, this guy looks a little scummy and this guy looks a little towny. Don't lynch me and let me go back to my mafia corner." Why are you giving us your town reads? How does that help us find mafia? This post you made here was completely pointless. There is nothing of substance here. Shut up Lol I think palmar is town I want to ask snickers why he thinks defending yourself makes you mafia? I was going to say I like the new guy early on but his like second attack on palmar after he posted felt really forced. you scum read palmar for having a "skimpy" (awesome word) filter, now he is here to contribute going crazy on him feels like an overcompensation. I don't like Glowingbear so would happily lynch him. On July 26 2015 03:13 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2015 03:03 FirmTofu wrote: On July 26 2015 03:00 KelsierSC wrote: On July 26 2015 02:56 Palmar wrote: On July 26 2015 02:55 FirmTofu wrote: On July 26 2015 02:50 Palmar wrote: This is kinda scummy. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am also a cop. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: i mean detective fuck OP's are hard to read. The reason being is that the latter post tries too hard to make it obvious his claim is bullshit. It's more likely that mafia would semi-waffle on their claim or make it weaker than a townie who is just trolling. On July 25 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote: On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote: beautiful warm day birds chirping bugs chirring the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes but guys, guys, guys... rayn is scuuum ^^ he totes just scumslipped and i'm totes 100% serious ^^ guys! guys! guys! listen to me... lol more seriously, i dunnae, bf...that's a bit too obvious to really mean anything, don't you think? -fades back into the ether- This is also kinda scummy for almost the same reason. The overemphasis that it's a joke. I'm not going to try to hang either of them based on only this, but at least it's something. On July 25 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote: OH IS A POST RESTRICTED GAME! Don't worry, we still have a storage with Onegu This is more likely to be townbear, I can't explain exactly why and it's super weak. Just to give you an idea if everyone starts at 50/100 on the mafia scale, the people I've mentioned so far are just a few points above or below null. If I reach a strong read this readthrough I'll be sure to let you know. Speak of the devil. Translation: "Hey, this guy looks a little scummy and this guy looks a little towny. Don't lynch me and let me go back to my mafia corner." Why are you giving us your town reads? How does that help us find mafia? This post you made here was completely pointless. There is nothing of substance here. Shut up Lol I think palmar is town I want to ask snickers why he thinks defending yourself makes you mafia? I was going to say I like the new guy early on but his like second attack on palmar after he posted felt really forced. you scum read palmar for having a "skimpy" (awesome word) filter, now he is here to contribute going crazy on him feels like an overcompensation. I don't like Glowingbear so would happily lynch him. If what Palmar is doing could be considered contribution, I wouldn't have a problem here. Like I said, he hasn't done anything of substance. What exactly has Palmar contributed? Also, why do you think Palmar is town? Do you agree with his reads? well he is here reading the game and giving leans either way on quite a few players. your contribution so far has been to attack palmar for a small filter, and now he is here to attack him again. Like I said it didn't really make sense. From my perspective if I had someone as scum for being skimpy i'd give them more of a chance to post and maybe read some other players, not just tunnel the shit out of them. The way you acted, didn't feel correct. @snickers - You called rsoul mafia for defending herself Show nested quote + On July 26 2015 02:00 Snickers wrote: let me defend myself then say im not defending myself let me bitch about people not doing anything and then proceed to do prty much nothing and you seemed to have a problem when you thought I was doing it Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 19:27 Snickers wrote: what is with you defending yourself more than anything else Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 19:41 Snickers wrote: whoa u didnt fall for the trap of defending urself again. the fact you even asked me to qualify that statement is suspicous. so tell me why does it make people scummy. GB - because I read your posts and they felt stupid On July 26 2015 03:18 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2015 03:17 GlowingBear wrote: On July 26 2015 03:13 KelsierSC wrote: On July 26 2015 03:03 FirmTofu wrote: On July 26 2015 03:00 KelsierSC wrote: On July 26 2015 02:56 Palmar wrote: On July 26 2015 02:55 FirmTofu wrote: On July 26 2015 02:50 Palmar wrote: This is kinda scummy. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am also a cop. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: i mean detective fuck OP's are hard to read. The reason being is that the latter post tries too hard to make it obvious his claim is bullshit. It's more likely that mafia would semi-waffle on their claim or make it weaker than a townie who is just trolling. On July 25 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote: On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote: beautiful warm day birds chirping bugs chirring the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes but guys, guys, guys... rayn is scuuum ^^ he totes just scumslipped and i'm totes 100% serious ^^ guys! guys! guys! listen to me... lol more seriously, i dunnae, bf...that's a bit too obvious to really mean anything, don't you think? -fades back into the ether- This is also kinda scummy for almost the same reason. The overemphasis that it's a joke. I'm not going to try to hang either of them based on only this, but at least it's something. On July 25 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote: OH IS A POST RESTRICTED GAME! Don't worry, we still have a storage with Onegu This is more likely to be townbear, I can't explain exactly why and it's super weak. Just to give you an idea if everyone starts at 50/100 on the mafia scale, the people I've mentioned so far are just a few points above or below null. If I reach a strong read this readthrough I'll be sure to let you know. Speak of the devil. Translation: "Hey, this guy looks a little scummy and this guy looks a little towny. Don't lynch me and let me go back to my mafia corner." Why are you giving us your town reads? How does that help us find mafia? This post you made here was completely pointless. There is nothing of substance here. Shut up Lol I think palmar is town I want to ask snickers why he thinks defending yourself makes you mafia? I was going to say I like the new guy early on but his like second attack on palmar after he posted felt really forced. you scum read palmar for having a "skimpy" (awesome word) filter, now he is here to contribute going crazy on him feels like an overcompensation. I don't like Glowingbear so would happily lynch him. If what Palmar is doing could be considered contribution, I wouldn't have a problem here. Like I said, he hasn't done anything of substance. What exactly has Palmar contributed? Also, why do you think Palmar is town? Do you agree with his reads? well he is here reading the game and giving leans either way on quite a few players. your contribution so far has been to attack palmar for a small filter, and now he is here to attack him again. Like I said it didn't really make sense. From my perspective if I had someone as scum for being skimpy i'd give them more of a chance to post and maybe read some other players, not just tunnel the shit out of them. The way you acted, didn't feel correct. @snickers - You called rsoul mafia for defending herself On July 26 2015 01:59 Snickers wrote: lol youve done so much scummy shit On July 26 2015 02:00 Snickers wrote: let me defend myself then say im not defending myself let me bitch about people not doing anything and then proceed to do prty much nothing and you seemed to have a problem when you thought I was doing it On July 25 2015 19:27 Snickers wrote: what is with you defending yourself more than anything else On July 25 2015 19:41 Snickers wrote: whoa u didnt fall for the trap of defending urself again. the fact you even asked me to qualify that statement is suspicous. so tell me why does it make people scummy. GB - because I read your posts and they felt stupid Tell me what's stupid in them. Also, tell me why stupidity is a sign that I'm Mafia. for you it's not I'd still lynch you though On July 26 2015 05:39 KelsierSC wrote: simple reason why rsoul is angry? probably the same reason i appear "annoyed" idiots and snickers. but i repeat myself On July 26 2015 21:14 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2015 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why does he say his spreadsheet is shitty? Why would anyone keep a shitty spreadsheet? Also why does he say there are scummy voters on Hopeless? Who is scummy on Hopeless? i am apparently not, so it has to be Clarity. I don't know how he ends up in Clarity being mafia when he is voting for the same person (Hopeless) and Clarity thinks Hopeless is mafia. It doesn't make any sense. It also doesn't make any sense he uses a plural on "voters", because it is impossible he thinks more than one person on Hopeless is mafia. Unless he is lying about his read on me or his read on himself. This is a really good post. Snickers I think you're town and I love the energy you're bringing but Onegu is not the lynch today. I'd lynch Scott or Tofu. Scott is partly because of his early play which I questioned him on and I think rayn's point about his spreadsheet is good. Tofu, his second "push" on palmar felt bad. his secondary scum also felt like he didn't really give a shit "rayn's been quiet"...yeh well it's a post restricted game but rayn had stepped up by that point. Then a throw away bf has a small filter. I don't like obi either People I think are town rayn, rsol, snickers, onegu, palmar there are others that I should try to work out; hopeless, clarity, obi, bf. I want to read more from them. GB you can just say nothing and that would be fine. The progression is this, for people that doesn't want to read the posts: Kelsier says he doesn't like me and he would lynch me happily. I ask him why he doesn't like me. He says everything I post looks stupid. I asked him what is stupid in them and why does that makes me mafia. He said it doesn't make me mafia but he would lynch me anyway, and that he is annoyed because idiots (like me) are annoying him, but never says what are the problems with my posts. He then comes to the thread and says he wants to lynch "hopeless, clarity, obi and bf", not wanting to lynch me. It's simple: he said he didn't like me hoping to have me as an option for mislynch. When I confront it, he says I look stupid but he forgets it's something he doesn't believe is alignment indicative for me. Then he says he would lynch me anyway implying that I annoy him. Well, I wasn't raising suspicions on him since that time. Now I've being pressuring him for the rest of day1 and he doesn't want to lynch me anymore LOL. He is not annoyed with it. What I mean with this is: his actions does not follows his discourse, which is mostly a scum trait. Add to this the fact that he answers almost NOTHING of my posts directed to him. He just deflects them, adding to point (2) of this case. 4) HE IS VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT HE IS FUCKING VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT. SCOTT WAS THE FIRST GUY TO ANNOY HIM (AND KELSIER WOULD LYNCH PEOPLE DOING THAT)! Why he doesn't prefer a scott lynch? Hell, a lot of people thinks he is mafia! Instead of going against the guy that certainly looked as mafia for him, he is going against questionmark!Tofu. More than that, he wasn't advocating for a lynch on Scott, but opened a range of possible lynches he would go against (tofu, scott, obi, clarity). IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, PEOPLE! COME ON!!! + Show Spoiler [WIFOM] + Points on Kelsier were brought many times and no one quickly jumped on it, not even Scott, who was suspicions on Kelsier in the first place. The quick and unreasonable town reads Kelsier got points out that scum didn't want him as a possible mislynch. I am POSITIVE Kelsier is mafia. Vote him with me. ##Vote: KelsierSC 1. I didn't "constantly whine about wasting posts" I made one comment because it was a stupid point and boxerfred couldn't look up a game from last week. At the time I posted "everyone was playing shit" I didn't have one single person as town because people kept posting stupid things. 2. I thought scott had posted scummy things, I quoted something he posted that didn't make sense. I'm giving scum leans snickers posting wasn't productive so I ended that whole argument 3. You are an idiot, that is why I would lynch you, it doesn't matter your alignment. If you are mafia I would happily lynch you. If you are town, you are a complete imbecile who will spout nonsense and actively harm town, for example , making terrible cases against people who are town. so I would happily lynch you. 4. I would lynch tofu or scott, at the time I was in the thread I thought tofu was the better lynch and voted him. you can sit down and be quiet now. Then do work and lynch me. Lynch the imbecile. You fail to point out ONE STUPID ARGUMENT I've brought. And no, I'm not falling for the shit fight invite, I'm sorry. Even if you're town here, you're not worth it. I don't care about lynching you today because I have scum reads. Just assume that everything you post and will ever post in any future game is stupid. Safe bet You are just disrupting town with terrible cases as usual. So be quiet So, another excuse to deflect pushes on you  We are agreed then. You ignore me and I'll advocate your lynch until the end of the game. I answered your "push" with a bullet to the head But go ahead and waste more of town's time. No, you defended yourself against a case that convinced some people that you could be Mafia. They started discussing you so you saw the need to defend yourself. But when I talked to you directly, you never answered. You just asked me to be quiet. And you see, I'm open to listen to why my case is wrong, because I'm not a douche. People are pointing out problems in some points and I'm okay with it. You could simply help me realising I'm wrong, but you decide to antagonise me without any reason. And I don't remember you being acting this douchey to anyone since your first game here. Which makes me think you are either Mafia or having serious IRL problems | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On July 27 2015 04:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On July 27 2015 04:39 rsoultin wrote: why not clarity, rayn? i really think he's scum :/ I ma not sure about it. I am not sure about Kelsier being mafia. I actually think you and Palmar are more likely to be mafia. lol then you're at least 50% wrong and i dunnae...i'm shit at reading palmar but i don't think i've seen him play this way as scum? i agree with the stream of consciousness doubty thing mentioned by tofu i think it was so most likely you're 100% wrong...tofu you may be right on but i don't feel strongly about him? i don't really know how to explain it, apart from clarity doing nothing to progress the thread in any way and knowing that he's capable of it. he even "sheeped" you without making it clear what his read on you even was, which is something that i don't believe comes from a towny mindset | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On July 27 2015 04:44 GlowingBear wrote: Show nested quote + On July 27 2015 04:40 KelsierSC wrote: On July 27 2015 04:39 GlowingBear wrote: On July 27 2015 04:36 KelsierSC wrote: On July 27 2015 04:34 GlowingBear wrote: On July 27 2015 04:29 KelsierSC wrote: On July 27 2015 03:46 GlowingBear wrote: .:Case on KelsierSC:. 1) Constantly whining about having to waste posts with bad things without actually using his remaining 50+ posts for anything else + Show Spoiler + On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote: It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with. After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both. bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me. scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote: Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far. considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum? On July 25 2015 19:21 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 16:50 boxerfred wrote: Kelsier, I couldn't find a game where you roll VT and claim it D1, though you have had "VT 3 times in a row" games before. Seems like a really important use of your time. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/489370-lost-but-not-forgotten-mini-mafia?user=KelsierSC On July 25 2015 19:39 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 19:27 Snickers wrote: what is with you defending yourself more than anything else See the better question would be , do you have any reads yet? Because that might be something interesting, instead your question looks to misrepresent what has actually happened in the game. unfortunately everyone is playing like shit so I have absolutely no one as town. On July 25 2015 20:10 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 19:57 Snickers wrote: On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote: It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with. After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both. bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me. scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly On July 25 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote: Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far. considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum? okay so lets start with this. One simple post. ur talking about wasting ur post which most people would find slightly scummy. your post has a complaining tone to it even though we are not even a 20 posts into the game. "two people" mention it but you think it is enough to get angry about. one of the two people you say has a silly post? so following your thought process one person is enough to make you angry and have to fill a post with weird stuff. Also one person making you mad when there is three scum..... yes one person is enough to annoy me If he is so worried about wasting posts with useless stuff, WHY DOES HE WASTE POSTS TO KEEP SAYING HE IS ANNOYED? "Yes, one person is enough to annoy me", really? Why is he so annoyed, man? "Everybody is playing like shit". No, nobody is playing like shit in this game. This game is pretty concise and to the point. His annoyance is unjustified, it's ridiculous. Looks like mafia trying to fake being emotional. 2) Deflecting any early suspicions brought on him + guilty conscience On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote: It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with. After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both. bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me. scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly On July 25 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote: Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far. considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum? THIS IS HIS SECOND POST IN THE GAME! This is an unnatural reaction to what scott posted. In town mindset, the reaction I would expect would be "then you're stupid because I'm town" and not "ok, you think I'm scum, am I the only one lol". It reveals mafia's guilty conscience. More than that, and more important, it is a deflection of early pressure. He sees someone calling him scum and softly tries to shift pressure to someone else. If you ask "am I the only one?" a common response would be "no, I didn't like X as well" and if they keep talking about X, the pressure is shifted. The same reaction can be seen here: + Show Spoiler + On July 25 2015 19:54 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 19:50 Snickers wrote: complains about shit play continues shit play This isn't going to lead to anything productive so I think it's best to just end it here. It can be interpreted in both ways: town not wanting to shit the thread, or scum deflecting pressure. Since Kelsier already displayed the deflection behaviour, the second option is more likely. 3) Wanting to lynch me then backtracking when having no reasons to + Show Spoiler + On July 26 2015 03:00 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2015 02:56 Palmar wrote: On July 26 2015 02:55 FirmTofu wrote: On July 26 2015 02:50 Palmar wrote: This is kinda scummy. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am also a cop. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: i mean detective fuck OP's are hard to read. The reason being is that the latter post tries too hard to make it obvious his claim is bullshit. It's more likely that mafia would semi-waffle on their claim or make it weaker than a townie who is just trolling. On July 25 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote: On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote: beautiful warm day birds chirping bugs chirring the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes but guys, guys, guys... rayn is scuuum ^^ he totes just scumslipped and i'm totes 100% serious ^^ guys! guys! guys! listen to me... lol more seriously, i dunnae, bf...that's a bit too obvious to really mean anything, don't you think? -fades back into the ether- This is also kinda scummy for almost the same reason. The overemphasis that it's a joke. I'm not going to try to hang either of them based on only this, but at least it's something. On July 25 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote: OH IS A POST RESTRICTED GAME! Don't worry, we still have a storage with Onegu This is more likely to be townbear, I can't explain exactly why and it's super weak. Just to give you an idea if everyone starts at 50/100 on the mafia scale, the people I've mentioned so far are just a few points above or below null. If I reach a strong read this readthrough I'll be sure to let you know. Speak of the devil. Translation: "Hey, this guy looks a little scummy and this guy looks a little towny. Don't lynch me and let me go back to my mafia corner." Why are you giving us your town reads? How does that help us find mafia? This post you made here was completely pointless. There is nothing of substance here. Shut up Lol I think palmar is town I want to ask snickers why he thinks defending yourself makes you mafia? I was going to say I like the new guy early on but his like second attack on palmar after he posted felt really forced. you scum read palmar for having a "skimpy" (awesome word) filter, now he is here to contribute going crazy on him feels like an overcompensation. I don't like Glowingbear so would happily lynch him. On July 26 2015 03:13 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2015 03:03 FirmTofu wrote: On July 26 2015 03:00 KelsierSC wrote: On July 26 2015 02:56 Palmar wrote: On July 26 2015 02:55 FirmTofu wrote: On July 26 2015 02:50 Palmar wrote: This is kinda scummy. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am also a cop. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: i mean detective fuck OP's are hard to read. The reason being is that the latter post tries too hard to make it obvious his claim is bullshit. It's more likely that mafia would semi-waffle on their claim or make it weaker than a townie who is just trolling. On July 25 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote: On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote: beautiful warm day birds chirping bugs chirring the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes but guys, guys, guys... rayn is scuuum ^^ he totes just scumslipped and i'm totes 100% serious ^^ guys! guys! guys! listen to me... lol more seriously, i dunnae, bf...that's a bit too obvious to really mean anything, don't you think? -fades back into the ether- This is also kinda scummy for almost the same reason. The overemphasis that it's a joke. I'm not going to try to hang either of them based on only this, but at least it's something. On July 25 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote: OH IS A POST RESTRICTED GAME! Don't worry, we still have a storage with Onegu This is more likely to be townbear, I can't explain exactly why and it's super weak. Just to give you an idea if everyone starts at 50/100 on the mafia scale, the people I've mentioned so far are just a few points above or below null. If I reach a strong read this readthrough I'll be sure to let you know. Speak of the devil. Translation: "Hey, this guy looks a little scummy and this guy looks a little towny. Don't lynch me and let me go back to my mafia corner." Why are you giving us your town reads? How does that help us find mafia? This post you made here was completely pointless. There is nothing of substance here. Shut up Lol I think palmar is town I want to ask snickers why he thinks defending yourself makes you mafia? I was going to say I like the new guy early on but his like second attack on palmar after he posted felt really forced. you scum read palmar for having a "skimpy" (awesome word) filter, now he is here to contribute going crazy on him feels like an overcompensation. I don't like Glowingbear so would happily lynch him. If what Palmar is doing could be considered contribution, I wouldn't have a problem here. Like I said, he hasn't done anything of substance. What exactly has Palmar contributed? Also, why do you think Palmar is town? Do you agree with his reads? well he is here reading the game and giving leans either way on quite a few players. your contribution so far has been to attack palmar for a small filter, and now he is here to attack him again. Like I said it didn't really make sense. From my perspective if I had someone as scum for being skimpy i'd give them more of a chance to post and maybe read some other players, not just tunnel the shit out of them. The way you acted, didn't feel correct. @snickers - You called rsoul mafia for defending herself Show nested quote + On July 26 2015 02:00 Snickers wrote: let me defend myself then say im not defending myself let me bitch about people not doing anything and then proceed to do prty much nothing and you seemed to have a problem when you thought I was doing it Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 19:27 Snickers wrote: what is with you defending yourself more than anything else Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 19:41 Snickers wrote: whoa u didnt fall for the trap of defending urself again. the fact you even asked me to qualify that statement is suspicous. so tell me why does it make people scummy. GB - because I read your posts and they felt stupid On July 26 2015 03:18 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2015 03:17 GlowingBear wrote: On July 26 2015 03:13 KelsierSC wrote: On July 26 2015 03:03 FirmTofu wrote: On July 26 2015 03:00 KelsierSC wrote: On July 26 2015 02:56 Palmar wrote: On July 26 2015 02:55 FirmTofu wrote: On July 26 2015 02:50 Palmar wrote: This is kinda scummy. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am also a cop. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: i mean detective fuck OP's are hard to read. The reason being is that the latter post tries too hard to make it obvious his claim is bullshit. It's more likely that mafia would semi-waffle on their claim or make it weaker than a townie who is just trolling. On July 25 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote: On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote: beautiful warm day birds chirping bugs chirring the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes but guys, guys, guys... rayn is scuuum ^^ he totes just scumslipped and i'm totes 100% serious ^^ guys! guys! guys! listen to me... lol more seriously, i dunnae, bf...that's a bit too obvious to really mean anything, don't you think? -fades back into the ether- This is also kinda scummy for almost the same reason. The overemphasis that it's a joke. I'm not going to try to hang either of them based on only this, but at least it's something. On July 25 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote: OH IS A POST RESTRICTED GAME! Don't worry, we still have a storage with Onegu This is more likely to be townbear, I can't explain exactly why and it's super weak. Just to give you an idea if everyone starts at 50/100 on the mafia scale, the people I've mentioned so far are just a few points above or below null. If I reach a strong read this readthrough I'll be sure to let you know. Speak of the devil. Translation: "Hey, this guy looks a little scummy and this guy looks a little towny. Don't lynch me and let me go back to my mafia corner." Why are you giving us your town reads? How does that help us find mafia? This post you made here was completely pointless. There is nothing of substance here. Shut up Lol I think palmar is town I want to ask snickers why he thinks defending yourself makes you mafia? I was going to say I like the new guy early on but his like second attack on palmar after he posted felt really forced. you scum read palmar for having a "skimpy" (awesome word) filter, now he is here to contribute going crazy on him feels like an overcompensation. I don't like Glowingbear so would happily lynch him. If what Palmar is doing could be considered contribution, I wouldn't have a problem here. Like I said, he hasn't done anything of substance. What exactly has Palmar contributed? Also, why do you think Palmar is town? Do you agree with his reads? well he is here reading the game and giving leans either way on quite a few players. your contribution so far has been to attack palmar for a small filter, and now he is here to attack him again. Like I said it didn't really make sense. From my perspective if I had someone as scum for being skimpy i'd give them more of a chance to post and maybe read some other players, not just tunnel the shit out of them. The way you acted, didn't feel correct. @snickers - You called rsoul mafia for defending herself On July 26 2015 01:59 Snickers wrote: lol youve done so much scummy shit On July 26 2015 02:00 Snickers wrote: let me defend myself then say im not defending myself let me bitch about people not doing anything and then proceed to do prty much nothing and you seemed to have a problem when you thought I was doing it On July 25 2015 19:27 Snickers wrote: what is with you defending yourself more than anything else On July 25 2015 19:41 Snickers wrote: whoa u didnt fall for the trap of defending urself again. the fact you even asked me to qualify that statement is suspicous. so tell me why does it make people scummy. GB - because I read your posts and they felt stupid Tell me what's stupid in them. Also, tell me why stupidity is a sign that I'm Mafia. for you it's not I'd still lynch you though On July 26 2015 05:39 KelsierSC wrote: simple reason why rsoul is angry? probably the same reason i appear "annoyed" idiots and snickers. but i repeat myself On July 26 2015 21:14 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2015 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why does he say his spreadsheet is shitty? Why would anyone keep a shitty spreadsheet? Also why does he say there are scummy voters on Hopeless? Who is scummy on Hopeless? i am apparently not, so it has to be Clarity. I don't know how he ends up in Clarity being mafia when he is voting for the same person (Hopeless) and Clarity thinks Hopeless is mafia. It doesn't make any sense. It also doesn't make any sense he uses a plural on "voters", because it is impossible he thinks more than one person on Hopeless is mafia. Unless he is lying about his read on me or his read on himself. This is a really good post. Snickers I think you're town and I love the energy you're bringing but Onegu is not the lynch today. I'd lynch Scott or Tofu. Scott is partly because of his early play which I questioned him on and I think rayn's point about his spreadsheet is good. Tofu, his second "push" on palmar felt bad. his secondary scum also felt like he didn't really give a shit "rayn's been quiet"...yeh well it's a post restricted game but rayn had stepped up by that point. Then a throw away bf has a small filter. I don't like obi either People I think are town rayn, rsol, snickers, onegu, palmar there are others that I should try to work out; hopeless, clarity, obi, bf. I want to read more from them. GB you can just say nothing and that would be fine. The progression is this, for people that doesn't want to read the posts: Kelsier says he doesn't like me and he would lynch me happily. I ask him why he doesn't like me. He says everything I post looks stupid. I asked him what is stupid in them and why does that makes me mafia. He said it doesn't make me mafia but he would lynch me anyway, and that he is annoyed because idiots (like me) are annoying him, but never says what are the problems with my posts. He then comes to the thread and says he wants to lynch "hopeless, clarity, obi and bf", not wanting to lynch me. It's simple: he said he didn't like me hoping to have me as an option for mislynch. When I confront it, he says I look stupid but he forgets it's something he doesn't believe is alignment indicative for me. Then he says he would lynch me anyway implying that I annoy him. Well, I wasn't raising suspicions on him since that time. Now I've being pressuring him for the rest of day1 and he doesn't want to lynch me anymore LOL. He is not annoyed with it. What I mean with this is: his actions does not follows his discourse, which is mostly a scum trait. Add to this the fact that he answers almost NOTHING of my posts directed to him. He just deflects them, adding to point (2) of this case. 4) HE IS VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT HE IS FUCKING VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT. SCOTT WAS THE FIRST GUY TO ANNOY HIM (AND KELSIER WOULD LYNCH PEOPLE DOING THAT)! Why he doesn't prefer a scott lynch? Hell, a lot of people thinks he is mafia! Instead of going against the guy that certainly looked as mafia for him, he is going against questionmark!Tofu. More than that, he wasn't advocating for a lynch on Scott, but opened a range of possible lynches he would go against (tofu, scott, obi, clarity). IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, PEOPLE! COME ON!!! + Show Spoiler [WIFOM] + Points on Kelsier were brought many times and no one quickly jumped on it, not even Scott, who was suspicions on Kelsier in the first place. The quick and unreasonable town reads Kelsier got points out that scum didn't want him as a possible mislynch. I am POSITIVE Kelsier is mafia. Vote him with me. ##Vote: KelsierSC 1. I didn't "constantly whine about wasting posts" I made one comment because it was a stupid point and boxerfred couldn't look up a game from last week. At the time I posted "everyone was playing shit" I didn't have one single person as town because people kept posting stupid things. 2. I thought scott had posted scummy things, I quoted something he posted that didn't make sense. I'm giving scum leans snickers posting wasn't productive so I ended that whole argument 3. You are an idiot, that is why I would lynch you, it doesn't matter your alignment. If you are mafia I would happily lynch you. If you are town, you are a complete imbecile who will spout nonsense and actively harm town, for example , making terrible cases against people who are town. so I would happily lynch you. 4. I would lynch tofu or scott, at the time I was in the thread I thought tofu was the better lynch and voted him. you can sit down and be quiet now. Then do work and lynch me. Lynch the imbecile. You fail to point out ONE STUPID ARGUMENT I've brought. And no, I'm not falling for the shit fight invite, I'm sorry. Even if you're town here, you're not worth it. I don't care about lynching you today because I have scum reads. Just assume that everything you post and will ever post in any future game is stupid. Safe bet You are just disrupting town with terrible cases as usual. So be quiet So, another excuse to deflect pushes on you We are agreed then. You ignore me and I'll advocate your lynch until the end of the game. I answered your "push" with a bullet to the head But go ahead and waste more of town's time. No, you defended yourself against a case that convinced some people that you could be Mafia. They started discussing you so you saw the need to defend yourself. But when I talked to you directly, you never answered. You just asked me to be quiet. And you see, I'm open to listen to why my case is wrong, because I'm not a douche. People are pointing out problems in some points and I'm okay with it. You could simply help me realising I'm wrong, but you decide to antagonise me without any reason. And I don't remember you being acting this douchey to anyone since your first game here. Which makes me think you are either Mafia or having serious IRL problems you're just a massive twat with no brain so discussing anything with you is pointless. I answered your case and you are still trying to push it. | ||
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On July 27 2015 04:41 GlowingBear wrote: Show nested quote + On July 27 2015 04:39 rsoultin wrote: On July 27 2015 04:37 GlowingBear wrote: On July 27 2015 04:33 rsoultin wrote: @ GB 1. he's used his posts to contribute and make reads - point is wrong 2. could be if the point is the very last sentence...but i interpreted it as him saying that (scott? i think it was?) shouldn't be shutting down my reads just because he thought ksc was "scummiest" 3. yeah, null read is null here still - point is wrong 4. you're still stuck on "annoyance" meaning that ksc thinks you're scum - point is wrong the only point that holds any water here, gb, is the second, just as rayn said, and frankly i can still easily see it coming from town so it doesn't outweigh all the things that i think makes ksc town this game Well, I think point 2 is damning enough. I can get what you're saying about the others. But, as I stated, he repeatedly deflected pressure. It wasn't only on that post. He never answered my other pushes on him, he shut snickers down too. I think it's very damning I don't see the points on tofu. I do see the point on scott 2 isn't damning at all if it's how i interpreted it to be? like, i get it could be either way, i'm not ksc, but if i can interpret it as coming from both alignments and see nothing else to make me think ksc is scum, it's not enough for me to change my mind? that simple why not clarity, rayn? i really think he's scum :/ You're talking about the interpretation you have on his answer to scott, and I'm talking about him shutting down ANY pressure put towards him, that can't be object of double interpretation. It is a deflection of pressure. yeah, so? i do that as town? if it's stupid as shit half the time i tell you to take a hike, go read, etc. etc. if it doesn't make me scum i'm not sure how it makes him scum | ||
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On July 27 2015 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you're shit at reading Palmar but i am wrong on him? If you think it's possible I'm mafia when I'm tryharding like this as town you're also shit at reading me | ||
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On July 27 2015 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you're shit at reading Palmar but i am wrong on him? lol you guys love to focus in on this i've told you why i think he's town and i've admitted i could be wrong cause i know i'm not good at reading him. so what? like, do you have a case on palmar i didn't see? i'm not just going to sheep you on him when i think he's town and i have no clue if i should trust your read over mine because i don't know how good you are at reading him. i suspect not very. he's fucking palmar -_- | ||
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On July 27 2015 04:48 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 27 2015 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you're shit at reading Palmar but i am wrong on him? lol you guys love to focus in on this i've told you why i think he's town and i've admitted i could be wrong cause i know i'm not good at reading him. so what? like, do you have a case on palmar i didn't see? i'm not just going to sheep you on him when i think he's town and i have no clue if i should trust your read over mine because i don't know how good you are at reading him. i suspect not very. he's fucking palmar -_- I ma very good at reading Palmar. | ||
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On July 27 2015 04:45 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 27 2015 04:44 GlowingBear wrote: On July 27 2015 04:40 KelsierSC wrote: On July 27 2015 04:39 GlowingBear wrote: On July 27 2015 04:36 KelsierSC wrote: On July 27 2015 04:34 GlowingBear wrote: On July 27 2015 04:29 KelsierSC wrote: On July 27 2015 03:46 GlowingBear wrote: .:Case on KelsierSC:. 1) Constantly whining about having to waste posts with bad things without actually using his remaining 50+ posts for anything else + Show Spoiler + On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote: It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with. After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both. bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me. scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote: Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far. considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum? On July 25 2015 19:21 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 16:50 boxerfred wrote: Kelsier, I couldn't find a game where you roll VT and claim it D1, though you have had "VT 3 times in a row" games before. Seems like a really important use of your time. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/489370-lost-but-not-forgotten-mini-mafia?user=KelsierSC On July 25 2015 19:39 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 19:27 Snickers wrote: what is with you defending yourself more than anything else See the better question would be , do you have any reads yet? Because that might be something interesting, instead your question looks to misrepresent what has actually happened in the game. unfortunately everyone is playing like shit so I have absolutely no one as town. On July 25 2015 20:10 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 19:57 Snickers wrote: On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote: It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with. After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both. bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me. scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly On July 25 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote: Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far. considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum? okay so lets start with this. One simple post. ur talking about wasting ur post which most people would find slightly scummy. your post has a complaining tone to it even though we are not even a 20 posts into the game. "two people" mention it but you think it is enough to get angry about. one of the two people you say has a silly post? so following your thought process one person is enough to make you angry and have to fill a post with weird stuff. Also one person making you mad when there is three scum..... yes one person is enough to annoy me If he is so worried about wasting posts with useless stuff, WHY DOES HE WASTE POSTS TO KEEP SAYING HE IS ANNOYED? "Yes, one person is enough to annoy me", really? Why is he so annoyed, man? "Everybody is playing like shit". No, nobody is playing like shit in this game. This game is pretty concise and to the point. His annoyance is unjustified, it's ridiculous. Looks like mafia trying to fake being emotional. 2) Deflecting any early suspicions brought on him + guilty conscience On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote: It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with. After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both. bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me. scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly On July 25 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote: Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far. considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum? THIS IS HIS SECOND POST IN THE GAME! This is an unnatural reaction to what scott posted. In town mindset, the reaction I would expect would be "then you're stupid because I'm town" and not "ok, you think I'm scum, am I the only one lol". It reveals mafia's guilty conscience. More than that, and more important, it is a deflection of early pressure. He sees someone calling him scum and softly tries to shift pressure to someone else. If you ask "am I the only one?" a common response would be "no, I didn't like X as well" and if they keep talking about X, the pressure is shifted. The same reaction can be seen here: + Show Spoiler + On July 25 2015 19:54 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 19:50 Snickers wrote: complains about shit play continues shit play This isn't going to lead to anything productive so I think it's best to just end it here. It can be interpreted in both ways: town not wanting to shit the thread, or scum deflecting pressure. Since Kelsier already displayed the deflection behaviour, the second option is more likely. 3) Wanting to lynch me then backtracking when having no reasons to + Show Spoiler + On July 26 2015 03:00 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2015 02:56 Palmar wrote: On July 26 2015 02:55 FirmTofu wrote: On July 26 2015 02:50 Palmar wrote: This is kinda scummy. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am also a cop. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: i mean detective fuck OP's are hard to read. The reason being is that the latter post tries too hard to make it obvious his claim is bullshit. It's more likely that mafia would semi-waffle on their claim or make it weaker than a townie who is just trolling. On July 25 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote: On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote: beautiful warm day birds chirping bugs chirring the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes but guys, guys, guys... rayn is scuuum ^^ he totes just scumslipped and i'm totes 100% serious ^^ guys! guys! guys! listen to me... lol more seriously, i dunnae, bf...that's a bit too obvious to really mean anything, don't you think? -fades back into the ether- This is also kinda scummy for almost the same reason. The overemphasis that it's a joke. I'm not going to try to hang either of them based on only this, but at least it's something. On July 25 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote: OH IS A POST RESTRICTED GAME! Don't worry, we still have a storage with Onegu This is more likely to be townbear, I can't explain exactly why and it's super weak. Just to give you an idea if everyone starts at 50/100 on the mafia scale, the people I've mentioned so far are just a few points above or below null. If I reach a strong read this readthrough I'll be sure to let you know. Speak of the devil. Translation: "Hey, this guy looks a little scummy and this guy looks a little towny. Don't lynch me and let me go back to my mafia corner." Why are you giving us your town reads? How does that help us find mafia? This post you made here was completely pointless. There is nothing of substance here. Shut up Lol I think palmar is town I want to ask snickers why he thinks defending yourself makes you mafia? I was going to say I like the new guy early on but his like second attack on palmar after he posted felt really forced. you scum read palmar for having a "skimpy" (awesome word) filter, now he is here to contribute going crazy on him feels like an overcompensation. I don't like Glowingbear so would happily lynch him. On July 26 2015 03:13 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2015 03:03 FirmTofu wrote: On July 26 2015 03:00 KelsierSC wrote: On July 26 2015 02:56 Palmar wrote: On July 26 2015 02:55 FirmTofu wrote: On July 26 2015 02:50 Palmar wrote: This is kinda scummy. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am also a cop. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: i mean detective fuck OP's are hard to read. The reason being is that the latter post tries too hard to make it obvious his claim is bullshit. It's more likely that mafia would semi-waffle on their claim or make it weaker than a townie who is just trolling. On July 25 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote: On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote: beautiful warm day birds chirping bugs chirring the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes but guys, guys, guys... rayn is scuuum ^^ he totes just scumslipped and i'm totes 100% serious ^^ guys! guys! guys! listen to me... lol more seriously, i dunnae, bf...that's a bit too obvious to really mean anything, don't you think? -fades back into the ether- This is also kinda scummy for almost the same reason. The overemphasis that it's a joke. I'm not going to try to hang either of them based on only this, but at least it's something. On July 25 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote: OH IS A POST RESTRICTED GAME! Don't worry, we still have a storage with Onegu This is more likely to be townbear, I can't explain exactly why and it's super weak. Just to give you an idea if everyone starts at 50/100 on the mafia scale, the people I've mentioned so far are just a few points above or below null. If I reach a strong read this readthrough I'll be sure to let you know. Speak of the devil. Translation: "Hey, this guy looks a little scummy and this guy looks a little towny. Don't lynch me and let me go back to my mafia corner." Why are you giving us your town reads? How does that help us find mafia? This post you made here was completely pointless. There is nothing of substance here. Shut up Lol I think palmar is town I want to ask snickers why he thinks defending yourself makes you mafia? I was going to say I like the new guy early on but his like second attack on palmar after he posted felt really forced. you scum read palmar for having a "skimpy" (awesome word) filter, now he is here to contribute going crazy on him feels like an overcompensation. I don't like Glowingbear so would happily lynch him. If what Palmar is doing could be considered contribution, I wouldn't have a problem here. Like I said, he hasn't done anything of substance. What exactly has Palmar contributed? Also, why do you think Palmar is town? Do you agree with his reads? well he is here reading the game and giving leans either way on quite a few players. your contribution so far has been to attack palmar for a small filter, and now he is here to attack him again. Like I said it didn't really make sense. From my perspective if I had someone as scum for being skimpy i'd give them more of a chance to post and maybe read some other players, not just tunnel the shit out of them. The way you acted, didn't feel correct. @snickers - You called rsoul mafia for defending herself Show nested quote + On July 26 2015 02:00 Snickers wrote: let me defend myself then say im not defending myself let me bitch about people not doing anything and then proceed to do prty much nothing and you seemed to have a problem when you thought I was doing it Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 19:27 Snickers wrote: what is with you defending yourself more than anything else Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 19:41 Snickers wrote: whoa u didnt fall for the trap of defending urself again. the fact you even asked me to qualify that statement is suspicous. so tell me why does it make people scummy. GB - because I read your posts and they felt stupid On July 26 2015 03:18 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2015 03:17 GlowingBear wrote: On July 26 2015 03:13 KelsierSC wrote: On July 26 2015 03:03 FirmTofu wrote: On July 26 2015 03:00 KelsierSC wrote: On July 26 2015 02:56 Palmar wrote: On July 26 2015 02:55 FirmTofu wrote: On July 26 2015 02:50 Palmar wrote: This is kinda scummy. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am also a cop. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: i mean detective fuck OP's are hard to read. The reason being is that the latter post tries too hard to make it obvious his claim is bullshit. It's more likely that mafia would semi-waffle on their claim or make it weaker than a townie who is just trolling. On July 25 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote: On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote: beautiful warm day birds chirping bugs chirring the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes but guys, guys, guys... rayn is scuuum ^^ he totes just scumslipped and i'm totes 100% serious ^^ guys! guys! guys! listen to me... lol more seriously, i dunnae, bf...that's a bit too obvious to really mean anything, don't you think? -fades back into the ether- This is also kinda scummy for almost the same reason. The overemphasis that it's a joke. I'm not going to try to hang either of them based on only this, but at least it's something. On July 25 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote: OH IS A POST RESTRICTED GAME! Don't worry, we still have a storage with Onegu This is more likely to be townbear, I can't explain exactly why and it's super weak. Just to give you an idea if everyone starts at 50/100 on the mafia scale, the people I've mentioned so far are just a few points above or below null. If I reach a strong read this readthrough I'll be sure to let you know. Speak of the devil. Translation: "Hey, this guy looks a little scummy and this guy looks a little towny. Don't lynch me and let me go back to my mafia corner." Why are you giving us your town reads? How does that help us find mafia? This post you made here was completely pointless. There is nothing of substance here. Shut up Lol I think palmar is town I want to ask snickers why he thinks defending yourself makes you mafia? I was going to say I like the new guy early on but his like second attack on palmar after he posted felt really forced. you scum read palmar for having a "skimpy" (awesome word) filter, now he is here to contribute going crazy on him feels like an overcompensation. I don't like Glowingbear so would happily lynch him. If what Palmar is doing could be considered contribution, I wouldn't have a problem here. Like I said, he hasn't done anything of substance. What exactly has Palmar contributed? Also, why do you think Palmar is town? Do you agree with his reads? well he is here reading the game and giving leans either way on quite a few players. your contribution so far has been to attack palmar for a small filter, and now he is here to attack him again. Like I said it didn't really make sense. From my perspective if I had someone as scum for being skimpy i'd give them more of a chance to post and maybe read some other players, not just tunnel the shit out of them. The way you acted, didn't feel correct. @snickers - You called rsoul mafia for defending herself On July 26 2015 01:59 Snickers wrote: lol youve done so much scummy shit On July 26 2015 02:00 Snickers wrote: let me defend myself then say im not defending myself let me bitch about people not doing anything and then proceed to do prty much nothing and you seemed to have a problem when you thought I was doing it On July 25 2015 19:27 Snickers wrote: what is with you defending yourself more than anything else On July 25 2015 19:41 Snickers wrote: whoa u didnt fall for the trap of defending urself again. the fact you even asked me to qualify that statement is suspicous. so tell me why does it make people scummy. GB - because I read your posts and they felt stupid Tell me what's stupid in them. Also, tell me why stupidity is a sign that I'm Mafia. for you it's not I'd still lynch you though On July 26 2015 05:39 KelsierSC wrote: simple reason why rsoul is angry? probably the same reason i appear "annoyed" idiots and snickers. but i repeat myself On July 26 2015 21:14 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2015 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why does he say his spreadsheet is shitty? Why would anyone keep a shitty spreadsheet? Also why does he say there are scummy voters on Hopeless? Who is scummy on Hopeless? i am apparently not, so it has to be Clarity. I don't know how he ends up in Clarity being mafia when he is voting for the same person (Hopeless) and Clarity thinks Hopeless is mafia. It doesn't make any sense. It also doesn't make any sense he uses a plural on "voters", because it is impossible he thinks more than one person on Hopeless is mafia. Unless he is lying about his read on me or his read on himself. This is a really good post. Snickers I think you're town and I love the energy you're bringing but Onegu is not the lynch today. I'd lynch Scott or Tofu. Scott is partly because of his early play which I questioned him on and I think rayn's point about his spreadsheet is good. Tofu, his second "push" on palmar felt bad. his secondary scum also felt like he didn't really give a shit "rayn's been quiet"...yeh well it's a post restricted game but rayn had stepped up by that point. Then a throw away bf has a small filter. I don't like obi either People I think are town rayn, rsol, snickers, onegu, palmar there are others that I should try to work out; hopeless, clarity, obi, bf. I want to read more from them. GB you can just say nothing and that would be fine. The progression is this, for people that doesn't want to read the posts: Kelsier says he doesn't like me and he would lynch me happily. I ask him why he doesn't like me. He says everything I post looks stupid. I asked him what is stupid in them and why does that makes me mafia. He said it doesn't make me mafia but he would lynch me anyway, and that he is annoyed because idiots (like me) are annoying him, but never says what are the problems with my posts. He then comes to the thread and says he wants to lynch "hopeless, clarity, obi and bf", not wanting to lynch me. It's simple: he said he didn't like me hoping to have me as an option for mislynch. When I confront it, he says I look stupid but he forgets it's something he doesn't believe is alignment indicative for me. Then he says he would lynch me anyway implying that I annoy him. Well, I wasn't raising suspicions on him since that time. Now I've being pressuring him for the rest of day1 and he doesn't want to lynch me anymore LOL. He is not annoyed with it. What I mean with this is: his actions does not follows his discourse, which is mostly a scum trait. Add to this the fact that he answers almost NOTHING of my posts directed to him. He just deflects them, adding to point (2) of this case. 4) HE IS VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT HE IS FUCKING VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT. SCOTT WAS THE FIRST GUY TO ANNOY HIM (AND KELSIER WOULD LYNCH PEOPLE DOING THAT)! Why he doesn't prefer a scott lynch? Hell, a lot of people thinks he is mafia! Instead of going against the guy that certainly looked as mafia for him, he is going against questionmark!Tofu. More than that, he wasn't advocating for a lynch on Scott, but opened a range of possible lynches he would go against (tofu, scott, obi, clarity). IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, PEOPLE! COME ON!!! + Show Spoiler [WIFOM] + Points on Kelsier were brought many times and no one quickly jumped on it, not even Scott, who was suspicions on Kelsier in the first place. The quick and unreasonable town reads Kelsier got points out that scum didn't want him as a possible mislynch. I am POSITIVE Kelsier is mafia. Vote him with me. ##Vote: KelsierSC 1. I didn't "constantly whine about wasting posts" I made one comment because it was a stupid point and boxerfred couldn't look up a game from last week. At the time I posted "everyone was playing shit" I didn't have one single person as town because people kept posting stupid things. 2. I thought scott had posted scummy things, I quoted something he posted that didn't make sense. I'm giving scum leans snickers posting wasn't productive so I ended that whole argument 3. You are an idiot, that is why I would lynch you, it doesn't matter your alignment. If you are mafia I would happily lynch you. If you are town, you are a complete imbecile who will spout nonsense and actively harm town, for example , making terrible cases against people who are town. so I would happily lynch you. 4. I would lynch tofu or scott, at the time I was in the thread I thought tofu was the better lynch and voted him. you can sit down and be quiet now. Then do work and lynch me. Lynch the imbecile. You fail to point out ONE STUPID ARGUMENT I've brought. And no, I'm not falling for the shit fight invite, I'm sorry. Even if you're town here, you're not worth it. I don't care about lynching you today because I have scum reads. Just assume that everything you post and will ever post in any future game is stupid. Safe bet You are just disrupting town with terrible cases as usual. So be quiet So, another excuse to deflect pushes on you We are agreed then. You ignore me and I'll advocate your lynch until the end of the game. I answered your "push" with a bullet to the head But go ahead and waste more of town's time. No, you defended yourself against a case that convinced some people that you could be Mafia. They started discussing you so you saw the need to defend yourself. But when I talked to you directly, you never answered. You just asked me to be quiet. And you see, I'm open to listen to why my case is wrong, because I'm not a douche. People are pointing out problems in some points and I'm okay with it. You could simply help me realising I'm wrong, but you decide to antagonise me without any reason. And I don't remember you being acting this douchey to anyone since your first game here. Which makes me think you are either Mafia or having serious IRL problems you're just a massive twat with no brain so discussing anything with you is pointless. I answered your case and you are still trying to push it. ksc can you please just answer gb's question? if he still pushes it just put him on mute like i did with snickers ^^ until he says something worth commenting on | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On July 27 2015 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On July 27 2015 04:48 rsoultin wrote: On July 27 2015 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you're shit at reading Palmar but i am wrong on him? lol you guys love to focus in on this i've told you why i think he's town and i've admitted i could be wrong cause i know i'm not good at reading him. so what? like, do you have a case on palmar i didn't see? i'm not just going to sheep you on him when i think he's town and i have no clue if i should trust your read over mine because i don't know how good you are at reading him. i suspect not very. he's fucking palmar -_- I ma very good at reading Palmar. Uhh. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On July 27 2015 04:43 FirmTofu wrote: Calling this game now. Mafia team is me, rsoultin, and Palmar. It's just so perfect. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On July 27 2015 04:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: Kelsier and GlowingBear STOP! You are both town. Focus for fucks sake. He isn't. But I will stop discussing with him because I don't want to give Mafia space to shit the thread or to keep causing him problems IRL. Kelsier, if you're town, I hope everything turns out okay for you. I'm not lynching tofu today. If I have to choose between him and scott, I prefer scott | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On July 27 2015 04:51 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 27 2015 04:45 KelsierSC wrote: On July 27 2015 04:44 GlowingBear wrote: On July 27 2015 04:40 KelsierSC wrote: On July 27 2015 04:39 GlowingBear wrote: On July 27 2015 04:36 KelsierSC wrote: On July 27 2015 04:34 GlowingBear wrote: On July 27 2015 04:29 KelsierSC wrote: On July 27 2015 03:46 GlowingBear wrote: .:Case on KelsierSC:. 1) Constantly whining about having to waste posts with bad things without actually using his remaining 50+ posts for anything else + Show Spoiler + On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote: It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with. After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both. bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me. scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote: Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far. considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum? On July 25 2015 19:21 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 16:50 boxerfred wrote: Kelsier, I couldn't find a game where you roll VT and claim it D1, though you have had "VT 3 times in a row" games before. Seems like a really important use of your time. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/489370-lost-but-not-forgotten-mini-mafia?user=KelsierSC On July 25 2015 19:39 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 19:27 Snickers wrote: what is with you defending yourself more than anything else See the better question would be , do you have any reads yet? Because that might be something interesting, instead your question looks to misrepresent what has actually happened in the game. unfortunately everyone is playing like shit so I have absolutely no one as town. On July 25 2015 20:10 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 19:57 Snickers wrote: On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote: It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with. After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both. bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me. scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly On July 25 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote: Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far. considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum? okay so lets start with this. One simple post. ur talking about wasting ur post which most people would find slightly scummy. your post has a complaining tone to it even though we are not even a 20 posts into the game. "two people" mention it but you think it is enough to get angry about. one of the two people you say has a silly post? so following your thought process one person is enough to make you angry and have to fill a post with weird stuff. Also one person making you mad when there is three scum..... yes one person is enough to annoy me If he is so worried about wasting posts with useless stuff, WHY DOES HE WASTE POSTS TO KEEP SAYING HE IS ANNOYED? "Yes, one person is enough to annoy me", really? Why is he so annoyed, man? "Everybody is playing like shit". No, nobody is playing like shit in this game. This game is pretty concise and to the point. His annoyance is unjustified, it's ridiculous. Looks like mafia trying to fake being emotional. 2) Deflecting any early suspicions brought on him + guilty conscience On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote: It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with. After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both. bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me. scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly [quote] considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum? THIS IS HIS SECOND POST IN THE GAME! This is an unnatural reaction to what scott posted. In town mindset, the reaction I would expect would be "then you're stupid because I'm town" and not "ok, you think I'm scum, am I the only one lol". It reveals mafia's guilty conscience. More than that, and more important, it is a deflection of early pressure. He sees someone calling him scum and softly tries to shift pressure to someone else. If you ask "am I the only one?" a common response would be "no, I didn't like X as well" and if they keep talking about X, the pressure is shifted. The same reaction can be seen here: + Show Spoiler + On July 25 2015 19:54 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 19:50 Snickers wrote: complains about shit play continues shit play This isn't going to lead to anything productive so I think it's best to just end it here. It can be interpreted in both ways: town not wanting to shit the thread, or scum deflecting pressure. Since Kelsier already displayed the deflection behaviour, the second option is more likely. 3) Wanting to lynch me then backtracking when having no reasons to + Show Spoiler + On July 26 2015 03:00 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2015 02:56 Palmar wrote: On July 26 2015 02:55 FirmTofu wrote: On July 26 2015 02:50 Palmar wrote: This is kinda scummy. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am also a cop. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: i mean detective fuck OP's are hard to read. The reason being is that the latter post tries too hard to make it obvious his claim is bullshit. It's more likely that mafia would semi-waffle on their claim or make it weaker than a townie who is just trolling. On July 25 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote: On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote: beautiful warm day birds chirping bugs chirring the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes but guys, guys, guys... rayn is scuuum ^^ he totes just scumslipped and i'm totes 100% serious ^^ guys! guys! guys! listen to me... lol more seriously, i dunnae, bf...that's a bit too obvious to really mean anything, don't you think? -fades back into the ether- This is also kinda scummy for almost the same reason. The overemphasis that it's a joke. I'm not going to try to hang either of them based on only this, but at least it's something. On July 25 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote: OH IS A POST RESTRICTED GAME! Don't worry, we still have a storage with Onegu This is more likely to be townbear, I can't explain exactly why and it's super weak. Just to give you an idea if everyone starts at 50/100 on the mafia scale, the people I've mentioned so far are just a few points above or below null. If I reach a strong read this readthrough I'll be sure to let you know. Speak of the devil. Translation: "Hey, this guy looks a little scummy and this guy looks a little towny. Don't lynch me and let me go back to my mafia corner." Why are you giving us your town reads? How does that help us find mafia? This post you made here was completely pointless. There is nothing of substance here. Shut up Lol I think palmar is town I want to ask snickers why he thinks defending yourself makes you mafia? I was going to say I like the new guy early on but his like second attack on palmar after he posted felt really forced. you scum read palmar for having a "skimpy" (awesome word) filter, now he is here to contribute going crazy on him feels like an overcompensation. I don't like Glowingbear so would happily lynch him. On July 26 2015 03:13 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2015 03:03 FirmTofu wrote: On July 26 2015 03:00 KelsierSC wrote: On July 26 2015 02:56 Palmar wrote: On July 26 2015 02:55 FirmTofu wrote: On July 26 2015 02:50 Palmar wrote: This is kinda scummy. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am also a cop. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: i mean detective fuck OP's are hard to read. The reason being is that the latter post tries too hard to make it obvious his claim is bullshit. It's more likely that mafia would semi-waffle on their claim or make it weaker than a townie who is just trolling. On July 25 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote: On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote: beautiful warm day birds chirping bugs chirring the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes but guys, guys, guys... rayn is scuuum ^^ he totes just scumslipped and i'm totes 100% serious ^^ guys! guys! guys! listen to me... lol more seriously, i dunnae, bf...that's a bit too obvious to really mean anything, don't you think? -fades back into the ether- This is also kinda scummy for almost the same reason. The overemphasis that it's a joke. I'm not going to try to hang either of them based on only this, but at least it's something. On July 25 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote: OH IS A POST RESTRICTED GAME! Don't worry, we still have a storage with Onegu This is more likely to be townbear, I can't explain exactly why and it's super weak. Just to give you an idea if everyone starts at 50/100 on the mafia scale, the people I've mentioned so far are just a few points above or below null. If I reach a strong read this readthrough I'll be sure to let you know. Speak of the devil. Translation: "Hey, this guy looks a little scummy and this guy looks a little towny. Don't lynch me and let me go back to my mafia corner." Why are you giving us your town reads? How does that help us find mafia? This post you made here was completely pointless. There is nothing of substance here. Shut up Lol I think palmar is town I want to ask snickers why he thinks defending yourself makes you mafia? I was going to say I like the new guy early on but his like second attack on palmar after he posted felt really forced. you scum read palmar for having a "skimpy" (awesome word) filter, now he is here to contribute going crazy on him feels like an overcompensation. I don't like Glowingbear so would happily lynch him. If what Palmar is doing could be considered contribution, I wouldn't have a problem here. Like I said, he hasn't done anything of substance. What exactly has Palmar contributed? Also, why do you think Palmar is town? Do you agree with his reads? well he is here reading the game and giving leans either way on quite a few players. your contribution so far has been to attack palmar for a small filter, and now he is here to attack him again. Like I said it didn't really make sense. From my perspective if I had someone as scum for being skimpy i'd give them more of a chance to post and maybe read some other players, not just tunnel the shit out of them. The way you acted, didn't feel correct. @snickers - You called rsoul mafia for defending herself Show nested quote + On July 26 2015 02:00 Snickers wrote: let me defend myself then say im not defending myself let me bitch about people not doing anything and then proceed to do prty much nothing and you seemed to have a problem when you thought I was doing it Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 19:27 Snickers wrote: what is with you defending yourself more than anything else Show nested quote + On July 25 2015 19:41 Snickers wrote: whoa u didnt fall for the trap of defending urself again. the fact you even asked me to qualify that statement is suspicous. so tell me why does it make people scummy. GB - because I read your posts and they felt stupid On July 26 2015 03:18 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2015 03:17 GlowingBear wrote: On July 26 2015 03:13 KelsierSC wrote: On July 26 2015 03:03 FirmTofu wrote: On July 26 2015 03:00 KelsierSC wrote: On July 26 2015 02:56 Palmar wrote: On July 26 2015 02:55 FirmTofu wrote: On July 26 2015 02:50 Palmar wrote: This is kinda scummy. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am also a cop. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: i mean detective fuck OP's are hard to read. The reason being is that the latter post tries too hard to make it obvious his claim is bullshit. It's more likely that mafia would semi-waffle on their claim or make it weaker than a townie who is just trolling. On July 25 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote: On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote: beautiful warm day birds chirping bugs chirring the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes but guys, guys, guys... rayn is scuuum ^^ he totes just scumslipped and i'm totes 100% serious ^^ guys! guys! guys! listen to me... lol more seriously, i dunnae, bf...that's a bit too obvious to really mean anything, don't you think? -fades back into the ether- This is also kinda scummy for almost the same reason. The overemphasis that it's a joke. I'm not going to try to hang either of them based on only this, but at least it's something. On July 25 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote: OH IS A POST RESTRICTED GAME! Don't worry, we still have a storage with Onegu This is more likely to be townbear, I can't explain exactly why and it's super weak. Just to give you an idea if everyone starts at 50/100 on the mafia scale, the people I've mentioned so far are just a few points above or below null. If I reach a strong read this readthrough I'll be sure to let you know. Speak of the devil. Translation: "Hey, this guy looks a little scummy and this guy looks a little towny. Don't lynch me and let me go back to my mafia corner." Why are you giving us your town reads? How does that help us find mafia? This post you made here was completely pointless. There is nothing of substance here. Shut up Lol I think palmar is town I want to ask snickers why he thinks defending yourself makes you mafia? I was going to say I like the new guy early on but his like second attack on palmar after he posted felt really forced. you scum read palmar for having a "skimpy" (awesome word) filter, now he is here to contribute going crazy on him feels like an overcompensation. I don't like Glowingbear so would happily lynch him. If what Palmar is doing could be considered contribution, I wouldn't have a problem here. Like I said, he hasn't done anything of substance. What exactly has Palmar contributed? Also, why do you think Palmar is town? Do you agree with his reads? well he is here reading the game and giving leans either way on quite a few players. your contribution so far has been to attack palmar for a small filter, and now he is here to attack him again. Like I said it didn't really make sense. From my perspective if I had someone as scum for being skimpy i'd give them more of a chance to post and maybe read some other players, not just tunnel the shit out of them. The way you acted, didn't feel correct. @snickers - You called rsoul mafia for defending herself On July 26 2015 01:59 Snickers wrote: lol youve done so much scummy shit On July 26 2015 02:00 Snickers wrote: let me defend myself then say im not defending myself let me bitch about people not doing anything and then proceed to do prty much nothing and you seemed to have a problem when you thought I was doing it On July 25 2015 19:27 Snickers wrote: what is with you defending yourself more than anything else On July 25 2015 19:41 Snickers wrote: whoa u didnt fall for the trap of defending urself again. the fact you even asked me to qualify that statement is suspicous. so tell me why does it make people scummy. GB - because I read your posts and they felt stupid Tell me what's stupid in them. Also, tell me why stupidity is a sign that I'm Mafia. for you it's not I'd still lynch you though On July 26 2015 05:39 KelsierSC wrote: simple reason why rsoul is angry? probably the same reason i appear "annoyed" idiots and snickers. but i repeat myself On July 26 2015 21:14 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2015 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why does he say his spreadsheet is shitty? Why would anyone keep a shitty spreadsheet? Also why does he say there are scummy voters on Hopeless? Who is scummy on Hopeless? i am apparently not, so it has to be Clarity. I don't know how he ends up in Clarity being mafia when he is voting for the same person (Hopeless) and Clarity thinks Hopeless is mafia. It doesn't make any sense. It also doesn't make any sense he uses a plural on "voters", because it is impossible he thinks more than one person on Hopeless is mafia. Unless he is lying about his read on me or his read on himself. This is a really good post. Snickers I think you're town and I love the energy you're bringing but Onegu is not the lynch today. I'd lynch Scott or Tofu. Scott is partly because of his early play which I questioned him on and I think rayn's point about his spreadsheet is good. Tofu, his second "push" on palmar felt bad. his secondary scum also felt like he didn't really give a shit "rayn's been quiet"...yeh well it's a post restricted game but rayn had stepped up by that point. Then a throw away bf has a small filter. I don't like obi either People I think are town rayn, rsol, snickers, onegu, palmar there are others that I should try to work out; hopeless, clarity, obi, bf. I want to read more from them. GB you can just say nothing and that would be fine. The progression is this, for people that doesn't want to read the posts: Kelsier says he doesn't like me and he would lynch me happily. I ask him why he doesn't like me. He says everything I post looks stupid. I asked him what is stupid in them and why does that makes me mafia. He said it doesn't make me mafia but he would lynch me anyway, and that he is annoyed because idiots (like me) are annoying him, but never says what are the problems with my posts. He then comes to the thread and says he wants to lynch "hopeless, clarity, obi and bf", not wanting to lynch me. It's simple: he said he didn't like me hoping to have me as an option for mislynch. When I confront it, he says I look stupid but he forgets it's something he doesn't believe is alignment indicative for me. Then he says he would lynch me anyway implying that I annoy him. Well, I wasn't raising suspicions on him since that time. Now I've being pressuring him for the rest of day1 and he doesn't want to lynch me anymore LOL. He is not annoyed with it. What I mean with this is: his actions does not follows his discourse, which is mostly a scum trait. Add to this the fact that he answers almost NOTHING of my posts directed to him. He just deflects them, adding to point (2) of this case. 4) HE IS VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT HE IS FUCKING VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT. SCOTT WAS THE FIRST GUY TO ANNOY HIM (AND KELSIER WOULD LYNCH PEOPLE DOING THAT)! Why he doesn't prefer a scott lynch? Hell, a lot of people thinks he is mafia! Instead of going against the guy that certainly looked as mafia for him, he is going against questionmark!Tofu. More than that, he wasn't advocating for a lynch on Scott, but opened a range of possible lynches he would go against (tofu, scott, obi, clarity). IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, PEOPLE! COME ON!!! + Show Spoiler [WIFOM] + Points on Kelsier were brought many times and no one quickly jumped on it, not even Scott, who was suspicions on Kelsier in the first place. The quick and unreasonable town reads Kelsier got points out that scum didn't want him as a possible mislynch. I am POSITIVE Kelsier is mafia. Vote him with me. ##Vote: KelsierSC 1. I didn't "constantly whine about wasting posts" I made one comment because it was a stupid point and boxerfred couldn't look up a game from last week. At the time I posted "everyone was playing shit" I didn't have one single person as town because people kept posting stupid things. 2. I thought scott had posted scummy things, I quoted something he posted that didn't make sense. I'm giving scum leans snickers posting wasn't productive so I ended that whole argument 3. You are an idiot, that is why I would lynch you, it doesn't matter your alignment. If you are mafia I would happily lynch you. If you are town, you are a complete imbecile who will spout nonsense and actively harm town, for example , making terrible cases against people who are town. so I would happily lynch you. 4. I would lynch tofu or scott, at the time I was in the thread I thought tofu was the better lynch and voted him. you can sit down and be quiet now. Then do work and lynch me. Lynch the imbecile. You fail to point out ONE STUPID ARGUMENT I've brought. And no, I'm not falling for the shit fight invite, I'm sorry. Even if you're town here, you're not worth it. I don't care about lynching you today because I have scum reads. Just assume that everything you post and will ever post in any future game is stupid. Safe bet You are just disrupting town with terrible cases as usual. So be quiet So, another excuse to deflect pushes on you We are agreed then. You ignore me and I'll advocate your lynch until the end of the game. I answered your "push" with a bullet to the head But go ahead and waste more of town's time. No, you defended yourself against a case that convinced some people that you could be Mafia. They started discussing you so you saw the need to defend yourself. But when I talked to you directly, you never answered. You just asked me to be quiet. And you see, I'm open to listen to why my case is wrong, because I'm not a douche. People are pointing out problems in some points and I'm okay with it. You could simply help me realising I'm wrong, but you decide to antagonise me without any reason. And I don't remember you being acting this douchey to anyone since your first game here. Which makes me think you are either Mafia or having serious IRL problems you're just a massive twat with no brain so discussing anything with you is pointless. I answered your case and you are still trying to push it. ksc can you please just answer gb's question? if he still pushes it just put him on mute like i did with snickers ^^ until he says something worth commenting on i've answered the case he raised against me, I didn't see any questions in it. Just The great wall of Stupid Tofu looksbad from that exchange. Saying I look "terrible" because of a case where 3 of the points he says aren't good and only agreeing with one point which is a bad point. He also tries to jump on clarity next but nothing original in what he said. | ||
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