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On July 26 2015 03:38 Palmar wrote: The first sentence refers to the time where I wrote the "that's just blatantly false" post. At that time I had read along and knew you later would comment on some of the people I had originally complained you didn't talk about. I don't get what the "i just wanted to see if you are paying attention" has to do with anything. It looks like a reason you made your post. But it cannot be a reason for your post by your later explanation. | ||
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##vote FirmTofu | ||
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Hopeless said something really bright. | ||
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Otherwise there is no reason you should think Onegu is mafia based on his claim. | ||
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On July 26 2015 02:55 FirmTofu wrote: Speak of the devil. Translation: "Hey, this guy looks a little scummy and this guy looks a little towny. Don't lynch me and let me go back to my mafia corner." Why are you giving us your town reads? How does that help us find mafia? This post you made here was completely pointless. There is nothing of substance here. Here is why FirmTofu is mafia. Especially the underlined part is something that is impossible for a townie to believe is true. | ||
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On May 03 2012 07:40 FirmTofu wrote: Gummy, I think I know what you're doing. Let it be known to posterity that I think its a terrible strategy. We aren't going to have a lynch today. I think both Claw and Gummy are town, and no one else has enough evidence on top of them for me to even consider lynching them. Get over yourself Gummy. There is no way you can deduce everyone's alignment from a handful of Day 1 posts. Let's wait a day and see if we get some REAL information. ##vote: No Lynch On May 03 2012 08:02 FirmTofu wrote: This. All I see with Gummy is a guy who thinks he is better than everyone else here and thinks he has the game figured out. He wants everyone to see how right he is, so he is pushing Claw with a single-minded focus with utter disregard for any legitimate strategy. I am not one who will vote with someone who allows his emotions to sway his decisions. As you can see with all his bolded posts, he is simply spewing rhetoric and nonsensical arguments to get people to listen to him at this point. As I mentioned earlier, we should adopt a strict policy of ignoring Gummy until he gets his emotions in check. FirmTofu why were you giving townreads on D1? It is a scumtell and doesn't help anyone finding mafia remember? | ||
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Yeah you should be, Onegu is 100% right here. | ||
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Like let me clarify: Rels; is the first one who points out Barakos' scummy post. Calls him mafia. Votes for him early on (tbh i pushed him to do it but i also pushed everyone else to do it). Does not push anything else on D1, doesn't even think about it. n00bKing; Admits Barakos' post is bad. I don't remember what you called him, it's already evident you at least REALLY didn't call him mafia (because i DO remember when people ACTUALLY call someone mafia). Is one of the last people to vote for him. Pushes Rels all day long, never touches the case on Barakos aside from off-hand comments on him. And from these actions you decide that "Rels is not clear but my stance on things make no sense from scum perspective"?!??! | ||
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![]() wrong thread. | ||
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There is no way one thinks giving out townreads (especially with reasoning, as you did) does not help the town finding mafia, even regardless of your affiliation. | ||
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On July 26 2015 11:26 GlowingBear wrote: I think that boxer's post was genuine although he is wrong about Kelsier. Which means I think boxer is most likely town He is also voting for Scott who i think could be mafia. | ||
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Why would anyone keep a shitty spreadsheet? Also why does he say there are scummy voters on Hopeless? Who is scummy on Hopeless? i am apparently not, so it has to be Clarity. I don't know how he ends up in Clarity being mafia when he is voting for the same person (Hopeless) and Clarity thinks Hopeless is mafia. It doesn't make any sense. It also doesn't make any sense he uses a plural on "voters", because it is impossible he thinks more than one person on Hopeless is mafia. Unless he is lying about his read on me or his read on himself. | ||
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It's basically his post. | ||
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On July 26 2015 21:28 KelsierSC wrote: Because outside of that associative read (scott is mafia therefore hopeless must be town) I can't get a read on hopeless either way. It's not an associative read. You read me town from my point that is actually Hopelesswonder's point, yet you don't townread him. | ||
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On July 27 2015 02:20 FirmTofu wrote: I have played many games since then(not on this site) and I have since changed my view on this matter. When we give town reads, we are vocally informing mafia of most town-read people in the game. These helps them choose their targets and doesn't do an effective job of eliminating mafia candidates for town. It is far better as town, statistically speaking, to talk about mafia candidates because talking about who you think is scummy helps us figure out who to lynch without compromising our town reads. Most importantly, even if I fundamentally disagree with you on this view that townreads are bad town play, that doesn't make me mafia. I just disagree with you on how to play the game. Lynching someone for a disagreement is bad play. You should be lynching me for scummy behavior. I am voting for you because i do not believe you believe what you are saying. Like it's literally harder to find mafia amongst 10 people than it is to find mafia amongst 6 people. Arbitary numbers, but it is a fact. If someone is town and someone else does not get it, it helps them to come to the same (correct) conclusion, and therefore helps the whole town to find mafia. Giving out townreads helps you prove you are town. Because it shows your thought process and people can then evaluate if the thought process is legitmate and coming from the town or not. Simple fact. Many people do not have scumreads early on, because finding town is generally a fuckton easier than to find mafia. Alot of this game is about process of elimination. Here is the real kicker; If you believe in what you say aren't you voting for Palmar for "disagreeing with you on how to play the game", which, by your definition, is not scummy? | ||
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On July 27 2015 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Scott who are the scummy people you were talking about who were voting for Hopeless at that time? Also: Scott why did you give posts to Kelsier? | ||
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