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On July 20 2015 05:56 scott31337 wrote: GB wants to play? hmmmm Walk with me And see the world I see It is our home It's where we are belong | ||
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On July 23 2015 02:44 scott31337 wrote: *rolls Mafia with GB* oh boy... Hey! I'm 6/8 in Mafia win! (6/7 if you don't consider my smurf wreckage) You should be fine if you roll Mafia with me. I'll play optimally as any alignment in this game, too. | ||
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On July 23 2015 03:57 LightningStrike wrote: No because we lacking coaches as we only got the 1 coach sign up  I bet you can get coaches until tonight. Try PMing marv, kita, HF, etc., inviting them, and saying that you're having a hard time finding coaches | ||
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On July 23 2015 04:10 NocturneMage wrote: If I replace as a newbie into this game, will I still get a coach? Yes, most probably. Why not /in, instead? I promise we will treat you well | ||
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He will take the last /in:Open slot then if he wants to play. That's why there are two different types of slots in this game | ||
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On July 23 2015 05:44 Barakos wrote: you mean scotts spot? ^^ Oh Scott Well, if nocturne Mage wants to play this I can out and coach instead | ||
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On July 23 2015 05:50 NocturneMage wrote: Also the deadline....if the deadline is 2300 that means votes at 2300 count? Or they don't? Or they don't count at 2301? I saw this issue pop up in another game I was reading. I forget what is normal. Think that's all questions I have. It depends on the host's preferences. It is generally specified in the OP or in the Voting Thread. Something like this will be written: "Votes on :59 will be counted. Votes on :00 will not" Are you replacing in because there are no spots left? If that's so, I'll give you my slot | ||
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On July 23 2015 08:10 NocturneMage wrote: I feel bad taking someone else's spot but whatever works. /in if someone drops then. Up to whoever. And thanks LightningStrike. So deadline is actually one minute before. /out /coach | ||
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On July 23 2015 04:54 geript wrote: /town coach Geript already offered himself as a coach, I think 1 more should be fine I'm pretty sure there are some vets willing to coach. LS needs to reach them out. | ||
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On July 23 2015 12:32 ritoky wrote: Up to you, 2 coaches is pretty ruff; if you can't find more just let me know. Also, can't be having GB and rsoul coaching all these young'uns. We'll end up with a bunch of spammers in the next generation  I teach all my coachees not to spam. I know, shocking. I do everything I tell them not to. I bet they get pretty confused when they play with me On July 23 2015 17:12 Fidei86 wrote: No hate for LS please, he was hitting up people last night in voice Mafia. That's my boy!!!!! | ||
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On July 24 2015 02:55 scott31337 wrote: Flexes can have my spot if he would like - the Bear already left so... :/ /out /replace Come to down under 3 with me! | ||
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On August 04 2015 08:10 geript wrote: I read this game mostly in passing, so take what I say with a grain of salt. I forget why I thought Barakos was a good lynch D1, but there was a really good reason that a bunch of people (even a vet or two) missed that someone had posted. Regardless, the result of his lynch (because it was so lopsided) should basically be ignored. It's both possible and probable that he was bussed so for the most part, no one should think that anyone on that wagon is town for being on or starting the wagon. The NK was a good choice, but in games where roleblocking a Veteran prevents their bulletproof vest from going off, then mafia should heavily consider "burying" the RB on the NK. The setup is random equally split between Medic and Veteran, but it's usually correct to err on the side of Veteran because Medics do crazy shit sometimes; or Medics guess wrong. Another good reason to "bury" the RB is because this setup states that RB's are notified and should the NK flip anything but Veteran, then you can have a plan for mafia to claim the RB for town cred later. The D2 lynch was really bad. I didn't keep notes, but I remember thinking that TickTock was almost assuredly town. That said, how both mafia treated this lynch was really terrible. It's fine to townread someone who's about to get lynched. But neither had a good reason for it and and both looked really terrible for it AND for not really organizing a counter wagon. The 5 off the wagon looked significantly more suspect than the 7 on the wagon. Somewhere around here, Ruxxar got into a big fight with n00bKing and MoosyDoosy stepped in to townshield his read. There's nothing wrong with any of this. However, how n00bKing approached the situation was not how a towny would whatsoever. He didn't want to really explain things and the explanations he gave were really piss poor. In addition, he was quite happy to let Moosy townshield the hell out of him while n00bKing proceeded to do practically nothing except continue to stir the pot between Mossy and Ruxxar. 99% of the time, Moosy is just a townie with a really bad read that he firmly believes in and n00bKing is mafia. Also fwiw, I think there were some pretty decent points made in cases against n00bKing this day (I can't remember whose were the best but I think disinformation, ruxxar and Rels all had some good points). D3 had a bunch of random things happen; not all of which I remember. But n00bking made a major mistake by not being on the nocturnemage wagon or not securing the sulfurous lynch. The 4-3-2 division where scum is lynched, generally means that mafia isn't on the wagon. So it basically stated that mafia was between Rels, disinformation, n00bKing and Ruxxar. Disinformation and Rels had both been really towny throughout the game. When you go back and look at the votes, Ruxxar's been wrong all game. Both n00bKing and NocturneMage were late on the D1 bus and then acted oddly around the D2 lynch. So the last mafia is probably n00bKing. Regarding N3. So mafia chose to roleblock himself and apparently forgot that the rules stated that KP was hand delivered. If I were the host, I would've let the KP go through because there isn't any potential setup with a town RB/JK/tracker so KP is essentially factional. Even still, mafia should've roleblocked the cop and shot him; he'll be dead and you can claim whatever the fuck you want (although claiming the RB there is pretty dumb because it will convince no one). I don't think it would've changed the outcome of the game because I find it hard considering thread sentiment and such that n00bKing wouldn't have been lynched; but he might have been able to avoid 1 day's worth of lynching. Either way, I'll be hanging out in the TLmafia teamspeak channel for a while if anyone want to talk about the game some more. Geript, in the other hand, mage was voting noob and refused to hammer sulfurus. This, objectively, draws connection between sulfurus and noob and distances noob and mage. I don't think it is that clear | ||
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I always had in mind that roleblocking self isn't possible because it uses the game mechanics to violate the game rules (shot not going through in a game mafia must shoot), which I consider cheating. It's abusive. If you have a rule that explicitly says Mafia can't skip a kill, game mechanics can't possibly overrule this. And I can rant as much as I want in obs QT. It wasn't fair that the team had their scum partner killed over nothing, and it wasn't fair that noob got his kill roleblocked and therefore checked by the cop. The fairness I'm saying here is not related to the host. What is related to the host is the duty he has to make the rules clear. You will never ask for clarification if you think your interpretation of something is right. You're putting the blame on the "victim" here. | ||
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But the host saw it (and I didn't). He should have reminded him. I think LS did wrong, which doesn't mean at all I'm mad at him or anything like that. But I think pointing out this will help him improve as a host | ||
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On August 06 2015 16:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: No GlowingBear. It is ONLY your job to remind your scumteam. Like it was literally told to to the scumteam that the KP is delivered on N1. The mafia team sent in DELIVERED KP on N1 and N2!!! How is anyone supposed to think they did "not understand how the KP works"?!?!?!? Like wtf are you guys even arguing about? Suddenly on N3 the scumteam just decided the KP is not delivered anymore.... There is nothing LS should have clarified at this point. And for the record Barakos was always going to get lynched whatever he says after his set of posts. See, you're saying that it should be known that kp is delivered and not factional. Okay. I, myself, am not arguing that. But tell why Mafia would roleblock himself. That shouldn't even be possible in the rules (as I already explained it is cheating) If you see the only Mafia sending a KP and roleblocking himself you won't think this guy got something wrong ESPECIALLY when it's a newbie game? It doesn't matter how many times it was stated that kp is delivered, you will realise that the message clearly didn't get to the player's knowledge when you see his actions in the game. You should not evaluate WHAT has been DISPLAYED but HOW the players are ACTING when you are dealing with this, IMO. In other words, I think a proper course of action by the host is to say something like "just a reminder: kp is delivered and you are not hitting someone tonight by taking those actions" instead of complying to those actions and saying "lol its your fault you did this because I've already said before" (I'm not saying LS did this, I'm saying that this is what you say is correct) I think the host has an active job of helping newbies understanding the game. So yes, I don't think host should clarify things only when asked. I think it is their duty to clarify stuff when they see someone obviously got something wrong. No, I'm not blaming LS for mafia's loss. Yes, I wasnt a good coach this game and I should've been guiding them more closely. I'm arguing things for future games. My points are:
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