EPTI didn't say he is suspicious, and I'm not trying to convince you (or anyone else) to vote for him. I only mean that you shouldn't take the phrasing he used to be Town-indicative. It seemed like you wanted to do that. Don't do that.
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n00bKing
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I didn't say he is suspicious, and I'm not trying to convince you (or anyone else) to vote for him. I only mean that you shouldn't take the phrasing he used to be Town-indicative. It seemed like you wanted to do that. Don't do that. | ||
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n00bKing
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...really? You said "posting so I don't get modkilled." That's a throwaway post. | ||
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n00bKing
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On July 25 2015 05:43 disformation wrote: + Barakos read of me is super strange/wonky. + Barakos stance on NocturneMage is super indecisive. + Barakos gives a lot of town credit to n00bKing for something that is done very easily. 1) What read do you mean? 2) I completely agree. 3) Come on, man. You mentioned earlier that Barakos might have been "buddying" with that comment. But he's not, it's obviously just a joke. He's not actually trying to give me town credit for knowing how to count. How could you think that? I've seen players try to buddy up to me before (or "pocket" me, as it seems to be called around here), and I'm definitely wary of it. But this is not an instance of that. For him to name me top town for knowing how to count is the same as if he named rayn top town for having the most letters in his screen name. Pay attention. | ||
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n00bKing
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On July 25 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: n00bking do you think it's more likely that Sulfurus will flip mafia than that Barakos will? Can't really say, I guess. Sulfurus seems to me like a good place for votes to go because: He plays little as Town, but barely plays at ALL as Scum, and that's exactly what we've seen here. In one game where he was Scum, he did almost nothing at the beginning of the game but attack me (specifically) without grounds, saying that he was the cop and had a redcheck on me. Here in this game he has done nothing but say that he thinks he's had an easy time differentiating my scum game and town game, when he's never even seen my scum game. It would be really odd to me for him to go down this road again, when it has already gotten him killed in another game. I don't know, how often do newbie scum players repeat the same mistakes that have gotten them lynched before? Barakos seems to me like a good place for votes to go because: Even though some of the arguments used against him look leaky to me, his attempts to combat them have been pretty feeble. I would expect Town Barakos to do a better job than this of defending himself. And to ALSO do a better job than this of pushing someone that would be a better lynch target than he is. Who does Barakos want to lynch today? I'm not sure I could even tell you without going and reading his filter again. Rels seems to me like a good place for votes to go because: His posts are actively scummy, and he has already been forced to retcon his story on two separate issues. I haven't seen Rels play as scum yet, so maybe he's just no good at it. If he's scum in this game, his teammates are probably not too happy with him in the QT right now. | ||
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n00bKing
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On July 25 2015 06:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: If this is about rels (i am a bit confused here) please elaborate more with quotes. The part above the quote is me talking about the previous quote. It is not about the quote that is about to follow. The part after the quote is talking about the quote. Hopefully that helps. | ||
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n00bKing
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On July 25 2015 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: what do i post as the first post of the game that is not a throwaway post in your opinion? I can't tell what you're asking. | ||
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n00bKing
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On July 25 2015 06:30 ruXxar wrote: For what it's worth I 100% agree with disformation nation here. Barakos read on n00b was cheap as they go, and I did not get the impression it was a joke at all. Okay, then I agree with Moosy. You are dumb.  I cannot begin to imagine how anyone could take that comment from Barakos seriously. Not for a moment did I think he was trying to buddy up to me, or pocket me, or give a read on me. It's clearly a joke. And in fact, the post from me that he was responding to when he made the joke, was ALSO a joke. His joke plays off of mine. | ||
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n00bKing
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On July 25 2015 06:38 disformation wrote: 1) This one Okay. I guess I don't see that read on you as being "wonky." It's just WEAK. So again, I would expect Town Barakos to be able to give us better analysis on a preferred lynch target, and to do a better job of defending himself, based on prior examples of his Town play. If that doesn't happen, then he'll stay in the group of players (that also includes Sulfurus and Rels) that I would be perfectly happy to punt out of the game on Day 1. | ||
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n00bKing
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On July 25 2015 06:46 Damdred wrote: I really don't get the big deal over rayns entry post. Its Nai, he's doing things...so it's dumb and pointless I think rayn is the only one making a big deal over rayn's entry post. I don't think anyone disagrees that it was NAI. There just also shouldn't be anyone who disagrees that it's a throwaway post. *shrug* | ||
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n00bKing
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On July 25 2015 07:00 Bill Murray wrote: [blue][b][u][big]Day 1 Votecount As has been the case in every game I've played here...the vote count is inaccurate. | ||
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n00bKing
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Oh? Is there any reason why you think Rels might be Town? I don't see one, from viewing your filter. | ||
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n00bKing
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On July 25 2015 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why is my post more of a throwaway post than these two? ruxxar, noobking. i DO want an answer. ruXxar's post is not a throwaway post because it has game-relevant information in it. He is making a roleclaim. disformation's post is every bit as much a throwaway post as yours. As was the first post from Barakos. As was the first post from Damdred (even though it didn't come until Page 10). A lot of people's first posts will be throwaways posts. I wasn't making a big deal of yours being one. Find something worthwhile to talk about. | ||
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n00bKing
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On July 25 2015 07:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't defend my townreads unless i have a reason to. Right now i am lynching mafia and you are not. If you somehow gather the votes then i can elaborate. This is extremely faulty reasoning, if you're a Town player. If you are Town, and if you think Rels is Town, then the only reason for you to not care that I have my vote on him is if you think I am Scum. If you think all 3 of us are Town, you have a responsibility to help me see why Rels is not the right lynch today. Because every Town vote that is on a Town player gives Scum more control over the Noose. My vote being on a Town player would increase the odds of a mislynch, even if Rels is not the target of that mislynch. I am a reasonable, rational person. If you think there are reasons to townread Rels, let's talk about them. On July 25 2015 07:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: btw, I don't see one reason, from viewing your filter, why Barakos is not mafia. This doesn't argue with anything I've said. Correct, my filter offers no reasons why Barakos isn't Mafia. However, my filter DOES offer reasons why Rels IS Mafia. No one can read my posts about Rels and then ask me "How come you're voting Rels over Barakos or Sulfurus?" | ||
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n00bKing
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On July 25 2015 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: In fact you kinda did. Do you believe ruxxar's claim then? No. In fact, I really, REALLY didn't. And I don't know whether I believe ruXxar's claim. That doesn't keep the claim from being game-relevant information. | ||
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n00bKing
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On July 24 2015 12:15 n00bKing wrote: As I see it, you're saying that ruXxar's play in this game is different from his scum games in these two ways: A) He is free/happy B) He is not giving his rsoultin/oprah impersonation My follow-up questions would be: 1) Anything else? Or do those two things cover it for now? 2) What is an rsoultin/oprah impersonation? That means nothing to me. | ||
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n00bKing
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Yeah, I didn't. disformation said only 4 of 13 players had posted. I corrected him, because 6 of 13 players had posted. The players he was missing were you and Barakos. You and Barakos had each made only 1 throwaway post, which explains why it was so easy for disformation to miss them. I never made a big deal over those throwaway posts, because IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL, and you're the only one who wants to keep talking about it. I then made the joke that if we want to lynch all liars, we can start with disformation because of his poor count. So Barakos responded to my joke by making a joke that I was top town because I know how to count. Everything make sense now? | ||
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n00bKing
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On July 25 2015 07:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: and by that i mean the fact you call it a throwaway post makes it alignment indicative for you. WRONG. I never said there was anything alignment-indicative about the post from you, the one from Barakos, the one from disformation, or the one from Damdred. If you try to decide that you understand my thought processes better than *I* understand my thought processes, you're going to come up with the short end every time. I promise. | ||
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n00bKing
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On July 25 2015 07:37 Damdred wrote: I never did address this, probably just forgot along the way. Anyway, bit different now obviously with the game progressing. But a) basically at that point B) you get a town read, you get a town read, everyone gets a town read. Okay, thanks. I didn't know that ruXxar had a tendency to town-read everyone, in his scum games. | ||
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n00bKing
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On July 25 2015 07:48 ruXxar wrote: Your case on rels is based on a faulty premise. He already explained what he meant by prepared statement, yet you get stuck in details if his original accusation instead of evolving reads from the post where he clarifies his post. I already explained why his explanation of what he meant by prepared statement is NOT believable. He wants us to believe that he used it to mean something other than how the term is actually used in these games. "Prepared statement" means before the Phase begins. His explanation looks like a retcon, to cover his tracks, after it has been pointed out that what he initially said cannot be true. I think his explanation looks like a LIE. His NEW explanation actually still does not make any sense (which is no surprise to me, because it probably isn't what he originally meant). Rels now says that the comments were thought about a lot before they were posted, rather than meaning that they were prepared before the game began. I call bullshit again. There is nothing about those comments that indicate they were thought about a lot before being posted, as opposed to being off-the-cuff reactions in the moment. When I point this out, Rels tries to tell me that he can understand why the comments being thought about a lot before they were posted isn't scum-indicative for me, even though it is for him. When that's not even what I said in the first place. He has taken my words and twisted them into something else, before dismissing an argument I didn't actually make. When I point out that the post in question didn't actually contain a VT claim, he says my point is "useless" and tries to discuss it no further. Only after follow-up pressure from rayn does Rels eventually decide that when he said VT, he actually meant "Townie." Another retcon job, when someone has again shown that his initial post doesn't make any sense. And here again, the new explanation doesn't make any better sense than the first one, because if he actually meant "Townie" instead of "VT" then why did he even mention it at all? He thought it would be worthwhile to take time pointing out to everyone that someone had a "prepared post" in which they said they were Town? Really? You're swallowing that, ruXxar? | ||
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n00bKing
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If the mind-meld between rayn and myself is real, then why do you have one of us on your Town reads and one on your Scum reads? lol | ||
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