EPTTalk to me a bit.
What do you make of Damdred? Should I accept his town read on rayn?
What do you think of Moosy?
Oh and of course, the card I drew for you...
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Tictock
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Talk to me a bit. What do you make of Damdred? Should I accept his town read on rayn? What do you think of Moosy? Oh and of course, the card I drew for you... + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Tictock
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However his posting has gotten much better and has been seeming more like his usual self. This post especially sold me: On July 25 2015 10:09 n00bKing wrote: Well then, sorry to burst your bubble (hey, at least you'll know I'm not trying to pocket you!) but I think there is a reason why you were the only one in that game giving yourself any credit for "trapping" Sulfurus. I don't think the fact that you nearly got yourself lynched should be a point of pride. I think the behavior from Sulfurus was scummy independent of anything that you were doing. I don't think Sulfurus himself would say that you were a significant part of why he was killed. I didn't see anything productive about your Day 1 "strategy" in that game, which is why I was disappointed to see ruXxar doing something similar in this game. And Ticktock is no better, by the way. But if there's any silver lining to it, I guess it would be that although I don't feel like ruXxar or Ticktock have contributed much to helping me solve the game, they have at least helped me determine their own alignments. ruXxar playing the same way you did likely makes him Town just like you were. And I don't know how a scum player would decide that his best course of action is to show up to the thread late and then start posting tarot cards. And if the answer is "cuz WIFOM" then I continue to think that the Newbie games are not the best place to be trying that kind of thing, and that TickTock would understand that. So I didn't really get Breshke scumreading ruXxar (though I see he's backing off of that now) and I didn't really get Damdred and rayn scumreading TickTock (though all 3 of them are on the vets list, so maybe Damdred and rayn are using some kind of l33t meta reads to catch TickTock). I'll also mention that there was a silver lining to all of rayn's nonsense about his throwaway entry post. That, too, made me more confident in ruXxar's towniness, since Rux's reaction to all of it was basically "go fuck yourself with this crap, rayn" which is a mindset that is...umm...relatable, shall we say. So n00b stands a solid green for me now, pretty much never lynching the guy. | ||
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Tictock
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I kinda agree about Mossy, I'll get to my read of him a little later. I did give him a card earlier for a reason. As for the Tarot... Well you should recall that I enjoyed batsnacks little I-ching read that game. I've been wanting to do something similar. Mostly people decided to ignore it, which is possibly the correct response ^.^ It does kinda force me to stop, not that I ever intended to be that useless all game. So Bre, tell me. Why do you seem so off this game? Like, you don't seem to be trying very hard to get reads. The first half of the day you really only talked about ruXx or MD, now your suddenly jumping on board this Bara wagon (which I'm not sold on) and are giving away a town read on sulf for basically nothing. | ||
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Tictock
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On July 25 2015 14:02 Sulfurus wrote: I'll start with my read on Barakos since it was the easiest to figure out, just look at this post. [indent]At first I was very excited to see this since it has the same 'shape' as his posts from NSMX where he had nothing but good logic. However the actual content of the post has none of the strong conclusions that I associate with Barakos. It looks like it was written so people couldn't say he hasn't given reads instead of trying to catch mafia. Also please don't listen to his excuse about how that post was a 'trap' for NSMX people. He knows he messed up and he's trying to cover up. Besides the bolded line, you are saying nothing new here. Was commenting about the "shape" of his posts in comparison to another game really something you wanted to share with us? Or are you trying to add more padding to your filter? | ||
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Tictock
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Struck me as odd that you ignored the nonsense I was doing with no comments, and yea just in general weren't really engaging a lot. Based on your responses to me here I'm willing to shrug it off for the time being. As for Sulf... He's really just floating doing his own thing? This "auto" list seems somewhat towny, but it's timing is weird. Also his PoE list looks too much like the majority sentiment of the game right now. I could be wrong but especially after that last post about Bara I really have the sense he might just be trying to show effort without really doing anything. | ||
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Tictock
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Why are you so certain that Flex and Damdred are town? | ||
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Tictock
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Posting this auto-lynch concept and selling it could very well be a last ditch effort of doing "something". I don't like it because a lot of my scum reads are in his town pile ^.^ Also I have at least 2 maybe 3 solid town reads in his PoE list so that makes me nervous as well... | ||
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Tictock
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On July 25 2015 14:55 Tictock wrote: Also I have at least 2 maybe 3 solid town reads in his PoE list so that makes me nervous as well... Upon reflection I realize how stupid this sounds... Carry on. | ||
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Tictock
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I'm not a fan of this Bara wagon, the reasons seem flimsy to me and it's mostly just one post that people keep pushing to show that he's scum. Him saying it was a reaction test is meh. The only thing that really seems off to me is that he stopped posting after rayn kept putting pressure on him. This would mean more to me if I weren't reading rayn as scum. I was going to include my read on rayn here, but since he has managed to fill 6 pages of filter already this might need it's own post. | ||
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Tictock
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stuff I dont like about ryan -Used a couple of questions with fordrawn conclusions while pushing Bara -very pushy and argumentative -2 scum reads (Noc & Bara) were largely parroting other peoples reads -spammy filter of quick one liner-ish posts a few other things that are kinda meh and probably nai sorry, my mind just started wandering in circles when I was trying to do quotes and dig through filters right now.... especially when I was looking at the Bara stuff. | ||
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Tictock
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Thought you were kinda scummy off that entrance post it felt forced, since then you've been more like a weak town read. I don't have much trouble seeing newbie town opening like that. Trying to comment about a few things to start then asking a few questions. Pretty null overall imo. | ||
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Tictock
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On July 24 2015 22:48 MoosyDoosy wrote: I still hate you. Spot spouting poetry shit and get to business you fool. Traps D1 like this are so bad it's ridiculous. It's completely dependent on the Mafia making a slip while people jump on your wagon. In either case, no one is taking you seriously at this point because of your poetry nonsense so you might as well just stop at this point. It's the last few hours we have. Get down to business. This post is rather Ironic due to the way Moosy himself played D1 as town in the last NSM, interesting as well since Moosy's ploy worked in that game. I also find it very interesting that MD is focusing so heavily on RuXx both in this post and in most of his filter. At the time of this post I had begun posting my tarot stuff which was clearly more nonsensical than ruxx's poetry, yet MD ignores my nonsense and focuses entirely on ruxx. In fact most of MD's filter is just arguments with ruxx over silly points, and none of it ever really goes anywhere. This leads me to believe that MD is not really interested in people focusing on the game (as he would have mentioned my Tarot stuff) and is actually just trying to create some filter by fighting and calling a few minor points out. There was also the overly long and drawn out stuff between MD and Breshke where MD kept dodging some questions. To me it looked like MD was trying to stir up something but when he got called out had to scramble to justify it. I actually think MD is a pretty good lynch here today. So gunna leave my vote on him and take another look at things nearer EoD. ##Vote: MoosyDoosy | ||
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Tictock
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@ Rels Noc reads overall null to me right now, I don't recall if it was you or someone else but the comment about Flex having done more in fewer posts was solid. Still not enough for me to really think he's scum. Noob is my strongest townread atm. Dis also looks to be pretty towny and as I remember him in past games. I'm thinking scum is somewhere in MD, ryan, Dam, Sul, and possibly Bre. The stuff on Bara isn't convincing me, but it's also not bad and Bara hasn't responded in awhile now... I've got no real issues if he gets lynched. | ||
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Tictock
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@rayn Used a couple of questions with fordrawn conclusions while pushing Bara Both of these are begging the question, "why are you scummy" On July 24 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Barakos claims he is scummy. Barakos why would you make intentionally scummy posts as town? On July 24 2015 22:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: Barakos i would like you to elaborate onto your read on Barakos. Why is the post you have been called out for scummy? very pushy and argumentative So obviusly you have to be somewhat pushy and make arguements, but there are a few instances where it looks more like you are picking little things and pushing stuff that isn't as big a deal as you are making it. For example: the reaction to people talking about your very first post. Also to some extent your push on Bara has a bit of an odd buildup where you ignore his reactions then push on the fact that he didn't react to your vote on him. It's like... you have a point there but he also stated long before you pushed on him that he was mostly interested in reactions from people from a certain game, so the push looks a little off to me. It isn't a consistent thing in your filter though so maybe it's a tonal thing that's throwing me. It's also not terribly similar to what I was pointing out with MD kinda tunneling Ruxx for fairly bad reasons. 2 scum reads (Noc & Bara) were largely parroting other peoples reads You returned to the game after your first post by dropping a list of town and voting for Bara as scum, for no stated reason. Bara had been discussed by multiple other people at that point, your actual case was in regards to how Bara reacted to your vote... but what made you vote Bara in the first place? You've pushed Noc a lot as a scum read as well, but it was Rels who was jumped in with his open/case on Noc's open. You then agreed with his read and pushed from there. Other than those 2 I've been the other scum read, which is what it is since it was mostly a WTF reaction to my tarot stuff and not being super forthcoming earlier in the phase. spammy filter of quick one liner-ish posts Posting a lot without really saying a lot... definitely something scum would try to pull off. Makes you look active and involved and makes it harder to dig through your filter. | ||
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Tictock
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On July 26 2015 01:59 Damdred wrote: Cleaning day has kept me busy so far but I'm here. Tge lynch makes me happy today I think, nothing he has done has screamed town to me and him not being back defending himself+leaving information behind is telling I think for a d1 lynch. I know someone asked me about my meta read on rayn, its kinda hard to explain and its about how he approaches the game and interacts with people. And he's not being an asshole a lovable asshole but still. Either way he's probably the towniest person in the game. So Damdred is also looking pretty off to me given what I've seen of his as town before. Mostly just an activity thing though after reading his filter. I just recall him being more interested and involved as town but he's kinda just been in and out like the above post implies. On July 24 2015 11:12 Damdred wrote: I'm not sure how I am not taking stances, most early reads be they gut/tone are extremely vague and frustrating for people at times. I think the general thought that I haven't taken a stance is incorrect. At least three stances have been taken. 1) Ruxxor is toen 2) Disinformation is town 3) barakas is a scum lean because of his post that says almost nothing definite. 4) vague feelings about breshke that I'll wait to expand on. Besides that ruxxor is a tone read in his postings I can just believe. He usually gives his rsoultin/oprah impersonation when he's scum he hasn't caught on to that yet though. On July 25 2015 06:20 Damdred wrote: Barakas is ny #1 lynch. TT, Breske are on the next level also here is sulfur Rels is also someone I'm really curious scum leaning on. Really it's really to many people and I need to refine my list a bit. These more or less sum up where Damdred is right now I think? Please correct me if not Damdred... Actually this looks pretty decent to me, I had similar reads at this point in the game and I was just doing my tarot stuff at that point. So Damdred... Who, after Bara, do you think is most likely scum? | ||
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Tictock
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On July 26 2015 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: You obviously aren't thinking much are you? Also I have posted more content and anyone else in this game so you are just straight out lying. Posted more, yes I'm questioning the real content of your posts How am I lying? Also can you explain what you meant by this earlier? When was I defending someone? On July 25 2015 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: no sorry, he is calling someone mafia for the things someone he is sorta defending did. Note: It took me wayyy longer than it should have to dig that post out of your filter because of all the one liner spam | ||
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Tictock
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My reads have been pretty clear all game even if it doesn't look like it, pretty much everyone I gave a card to when I first hopped in was a scum read or lean at that point I stated some of my reasons/concerns in my opening posts, and those have been some of the bigger things I've been reading people scum for. There is danger of in-fighting of loosing focus on the actual matters at hand. Be wary of those showing little focus, causing disruption, or trying to start arguments. Bara hasn't done much that really seems scummy to me, so that's why I've been kinda flaky about his lynch. I've stated this a few time I think. Anything else for me while I'm around? | ||
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Tictock
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Both I've discussed, but to elaborate on Sulf. The list post feels really odd to me and if I were to accept it and merge with my own reads would leave only one scum team of Bara/ Moosy/ Noc. While that is a totally possible team I just can't agree with things being that simple so early. Also I have a really hard time understanding why n00b, Damdred, Flex, Dis, and Bre all ended up where they are on those reads. The post about Bara really was weird too and really only makes sense as trying to show he thinks Bara is scummy for his own reasons. Like even if Bara is scum here this looks like a lame attempt to hop on that wagon without just sheeping. | ||
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Tictock
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I am? I made a push on Moosy and have been discussing Sul a lot. Also trying to figure out why rayn and you feel a bit off to me. | ||
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Tictock
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On July 26 2015 04:19 Damdred wrote: Its just a few hours till lynch though and instead of pushing your prefered lynch you say you don't like the lynch and you are instead putting attention on myself and rayn. It is counter productive at best with the time left if you are so against the lynch We started talking about me being flaky on the Bara lynch remember? You and rayn might be onto something with him, and I'm certainty not going to defend him when he is not around himself. His lynch could actually be really good, and at this point is probably going to happen. I'm not as convinced that he is scum and have been trying to reconcile a few things. Both Moosy and Sulf seem pretty scummy to me as I've been talking about since I got home from work last night. There's a pretty solid amount of afk players atm which is making it harder to push another wagon. | ||
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