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On July 18 2015 07:52 plotspot wrote: I think jesus was policy lynched right? A lot of crying women 'we know you're innocent, but god forgive us'. XD what the fuck are you talking about? | ||
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On July 18 2015 08:16 plotspot wrote: Ok, I see what's up with this game. I'm gonna sleep now. 0:00 AM deadline is really perfect.^^ what is up with this game? I thought you were asking where people were, people are here. I asked you a question, lets go | ||
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On July 18 2015 08:18 JonnyLaw wrote: and man, ksc you're so angry out the door. it was a fair question | ||
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his posts feel forced, emote usage is wrong, didn't respond to me but instead just disappeared complaining about the game. ##Vote plotspot | ||
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On July 18 2015 09:13 Fecalfeast wrote: I want to get my page of posts done before I finish work but I don't want them all to be fluff. What is the policy on plot based on? it's not policy | ||
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On July 18 2015 09:22 Damdred wrote: The policy part of the plot lynch is that he claimed a role and sorta rescinded in the first post it shortens the field that mafia, shoot into,to,find,blues. The non policy part is he complained about the game being slow didn't do,anything bit complain,about kels question,and went to sleep when people,showed up. I don't know if it makes him scum but it doesn't make him town. However oneg is interesting plus forced posts and the emote usage is wrong | ||
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On July 18 2015 19:04 plotspot wrote: Why did I claim vanilla cop? I think it won't hurt town and it leaves mafia guessing whether I really am Cop or VT. 1. If i'm VT than the real cop is fine, mafia still wants to check out what I am or possibly kill me and might waste a turn. If we have Medic for example they could protect me with a chance mafia will kill me. If I die we still only lose a VT. 2. If I'm cop I wifomed Mafia into taking other targets, and I would be safe. If there is a medic they could protect me. I guess it's not that significant in the end. It keeps mafia guessing a bit. The medic role in both scenarios is interesting, if we have one, but the question is will mafia risk it? You told damdred that "it would be fun" but now apparently there is some next level night kill play. interesting as this is, do you have any reads so far ? | ||
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I like rayn, rels and Damdred I want yamato and geript to explain their reads on eachother. I don't like plotspot | ||
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On July 19 2015 00:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Kelsier why do you like Damdred? Tone and the fact he is explaining things well I don't mind him pushing ff | ||
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On July 19 2015 01:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: but the reasoning for his read is terribad. mhmm...I mean it's not like you can look at it and say "damdred made a great case, he thinks this guy is 100% mafia let's sheep. " it's more of damdred giving reasons for a scum lean. it's not terribad for early d1 though. | ||
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On July 19 2015 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: well it kinda is. half of his case didn't even happen. well, all of his case didn't even happen the way he puts it. ![]() it's not really a case though. just wait and see what happens | ||
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On July 19 2015 01:04 VayneAuthority wrote: hm what do you think of jonnylaw so far? should i be thinking anything about him? | ||
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On July 19 2015 01:43 VayneAuthority wrote: well all his posts so far are nitpicking things but making no conclusion from it. oh kelsier is angry, geript is doing reads with no backing (majority of game is doing that) but thats it he doesnt make any sort of conclusion from that. Just sorta tries to paint people in a bad light and leaves it at that. then you have the typical RL post that mafia like to fill their filters with. Idk he rubs me the wrong way so far with no meta to work with Yeh I can see it that way. I don't have a read either way but leaning scum now. | ||
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On July 19 2015 01:50 VayneAuthority wrote: yamato im undecided, geript probably town, rels leaning mafia. thats probably a good start can you explain both your geript read and the rels read. | ||
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On July 19 2015 02:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: Fucking quotes: EBWOP: Kelsier: How do you go from this.... ...to this: ??? ...because I read VA's post | ||
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yes but i disagree with you. I think it is easy for any alignment to say geript doesn't have any reasons for his reads. Saying it doesn't make sense for mafia Jonny to say it to town geript just isn't true. | ||
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On July 19 2015 02:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: Vayne can you go read the argument i had with Damdred and tell me what you think about it and his read on FF? Kelsier for some reason doesn't give a fuck. I think the problem is you are treating it like Damdred has given a big case on FF and is calling him scum trying to get him lynched. Whereas Damdred has a scum lean and gave his reasons for it. So asking him to "find proof in the thread" etc. is unreasonable | ||
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On July 19 2015 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: rofl. just look at what you are posting?!?! you posted this On July 19 2015 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: You actually never said any of those things. The conversation you had with FF about Onegu - well FF comes out of it MUCH better looking than you do, because what he said is right. You somehow managed to turn it into "I had to pry ff to interact" when YOU were the one that bailed out of the conversation for whatever reason. Your point (1) is really dumb. It just is. Because it is not alignment indicative in any way, and you should know it. Your point (2) is fluff. That's how you interpret his posting. It doesn't make it true, because you can always say "X sounds [insert any word here]". You can interpret people's "tone" however you want and noone can say anything about it because you COULD actually think that. Furthermore you show no actual proof from the thread that makes FF mafia. Literally none. Like can i say here "you sound awfully angry Damdred, that probably makes you mafia"?? Because you do, however i do not think it's alignment indicative, but as per your definition that should make you mafia, no? which is you asking to damdred to "support a case" when in fact Damdred is given a scum lean. your response is disproportionate. | ||
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On July 19 2015 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you think someone might be mafia you have something to support your read. These reads comes from what people post in the thread, NOWHERE else. Like what the fucking fuck, i am soon getting angry here. Because you are being really obtuse and saying something that makes zero fucking sense. it's pretty clear the scumlean damdred had is based on his conversation with fecal feast. Just read it, I don't really see how you want someone to "prove" a scum lean. Again you are trying to attack this like damdred has made a big case on ff being mafia which just isn't what happened. | ||
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On July 19 2015 02:44 geript wrote: He's only being a little dickish. Like usually he's more short/assholey as town. On July 18 2015 11:32 yamato77 wrote: Geript also not a terrible lynch. Neither is FF for that matter. But I'm getting ahead of myself. you found this not short or assholey then? | ||
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i'm asking you a question so just answer it rather than dodge | ||
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On July 19 2015 03:09 geript wrote: I'm telling you that you're asking a retarded question that would be answered by basic reading comprehension. just humour me and answer the question, | ||
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On July 19 2015 03:30 geript wrote: How can it be not short/assholey when the point I'm making is that he's more short/assholey as town? right but i am curious how you read that post as anything but short or being an asshole. | ||
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On July 19 2015 03:43 geript wrote: I lied. I want to lynch Kelsier now. I don't understand how he can even make the argument he's trying to make if he's town. So there's one. which argument? | ||
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On July 19 2015 03:38 KelsierSC wrote: right but i am curious how you read that post as anything but short or being an asshole. | ||
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On July 19 2015 03:41 geript wrote: I'm actually pretty sure that there's exactly 1 between JohnnyLaw and Rayn and I'm not sure who's the town. Yam might be town, but I didn't really like his response to me. It felt like it was lacking something. Plus he didn't really terribly respond to my vote on him, but I kinda think that would happen as either alignment. Onegu is probably the best lynch today. Either him or maybe plotspot. Plot's a good policy lynch, but Onegu's really missing something. I think it's that his joke isn't actually funny and it's a minor joke. Vayne I'm kinda guessing is town. But I think that's because he's only townread me as town. It kinda scares me that he kinda seems to care about the game. I have a hard time thinking that he'd actively consider or follow how he reads me. Damdred is my mason partner. So I don't have to bother reading him. It's pretty sweet and shit at the same time. I want to look in Rels/Kels read. I forget which, but I'm feeling extra lazy. Otherwise I'm kinda meh on people. where did yamato even respond to you? a lot of the plotspot thing isn't even polict | ||
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On July 19 2015 03:48 geript wrote: Like this is basic reading comprehension. How can he get that I'm trying to say that Yam's post was not short/assholey? Like me using the word more literally means that I found the post lacking an amount of shortness/assholery that town yam levels usually are. Then he's trying to make the point that the post is short/assholey but I'm not reading it that way. Like I've been really fucking clear about this. i was wanting you to really explain how that post made you read yam as mafia because On July 18 2015 11:07 geript wrote: I want to lynch Onegu or yam... maybe kelsier On July 18 2015 11:32 yamato77 wrote: Geript also not a terrible lynch. Neither is FF for that matter. But I'm getting ahead of myself. you had yamato as mafia before that post even happened. so you say he is town when he is short and dickish, but essentially you first mafia read him for these posts. On July 18 2015 07:46 yamato77 wrote: I propose a policy lynch of plotspot On July 18 2015 08:31 yamato77 wrote: I still want to lynch plotspot. where clearly he is being long-winded mafia? =) | ||
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On July 19 2015 03:49 KelsierSC wrote: where did yamato even respond to you? a lot of the plotspot thing isn't even polict | ||
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##Vote geript | ||
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On July 19 2015 03:58 geript wrote: Kelsier confirmed taking all of my arguments and twisting them. right | ||
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On July 19 2015 04:12 geript wrote: Nope it's not. People seem to be happy to let everyone be fine with townreads on Johnny. But he has done basically nothing to be townread; and anyone who's townreading him is doing so awfully. So when that continues, it's generally because the guy is mafia. Yet you haven't cared about the fact that I'm not townreading Johnny whatsoever. You haven't even bothered with it. Plus the reasoning that I quoted is shit. Quite often as mafia, you call people town to look good for awful reasons. Just so that you can emulate your townplay. You could be not wanting to bus, but I find that unlikely. Second, you've failed to go through and actually analyze the argument I'm making and Kelsier is making. Like if you followed the thread in context, you'd understand the point I've made. It's not me taking things out of context whatsoever. Rather, Kelsier has continued to ask stupid questions and try to make points that are literally not following any reality in the thread. For example, he's quoted the post where Yam responded to me, and yet as asked where Yam responded to me. He's constantly asked why I don't find his posts to be short/assholey. Yet my wording has specifically and clearly pointed out that I find them short/assholey. Rather the point I've been making is that Yam doesn't feel short/assholey enough; that as town, he's usually more prone to being extra dumb/short/assholey. Which is why I'm thinking he might be town considering his follow up. But Kelsier isn't actually trying to think about what I've said. He's just trying to be active. yam didn't respond to you , he was saying you would be a good lynch. You have mentioned his response to you, and to your vote. where is this? The reason I had to ask constantly was because it was important to establish the timeline. You stated that you thought yamato was mafia for being "not short/not an asshole". This didn't ring right in my head so I checked the timeline and I asked you specifically about that post. you confirmed that the post i quoted led you to believe that yamato was mafia. But as I pointed out you had yamato as mafia before he even posted that. It was for two short posts about plynching plotspot. which goes against your reasoning I don't have to convince you that you're mafia, I just have to convince town. | ||
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On July 19 2015 04:45 Fecalfeast wrote: After reading geript I thought he didn't seem too bad but kelsier is correct that yamato never actually responded to geript. I personally don't think this alone is enough to lynch geript though. I would much rather kill plotspot at this juncture right..because that's all i posted did you really read? | ||
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On July 19 2015 05:02 Damdred wrote: I noticed that you don't really have much justification, why is geript not so bad here? Why plot here? yeh damdred, give him lessons on justifying towngeript! | ||
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On July 19 2015 07:23 geript wrote: I'm not sure what to think of ff. His reasons for thinking me town are really weak. And he doesn't think much of Damdred's reasons for thinking I'm town which are actually quite good. He also seems to ignore Vayne's read on me which I thought wasn't terrible. Kelsier is I'm pretty sure the best lynch. I don't get why nobody else doesn't see it. lol you actually still believe this, you haven't even responded to my points, your main issue with me is about me "consntantly asking a question" i did this because , partly because you didn't answer and because it was an issue for me when you gave your yamato reasons. so considering i cleared that up how can you still have me as scum? | ||
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i'm catching up | ||
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no reason to change my mind you should all vote geript | ||
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On July 20 2015 01:54 geript wrote: Or we can just lynch Kelsier for his stupidity. Basic run down of analogous conversation: Geript: "Yam is mafia for not being able to strong enough to bench 300" Kelsier: "So you're saying Yam is weak" Geript: "English motherfucker. Do you speak it?" Kelsier: "So Yam benching 200 makes him not strong?" Geript: "ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER!!! DO YOU SPEAK IT??????" Kelsier: "Geript clearly maf." Everything else is basically random inane pushes in the most god awful way. that isn't what happened thanks for being incredibly rude to me though, it makes me feel better about lynching you | ||
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Again where is the response that yamato gives to you or his response to your vote because I don't see it? If someone wants to actually answer the case I raised against him and tell me why it's wrong and why you are not voting for him I would be interested, "uh i have a town read" does not count as a reason. | ||
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On July 20 2015 03:24 Rels wrote: OK there it is. Why I think JonnyLaw is mafia: an event timeline One Early in the game, JonnyLaw makes a comment on FecalFeast being relaxed. + Show Spoiler + On July 18 2015 18:07 JonnyLaw wrote: well seems dead here. 3am and head full of beer i'll be back in the morning. ff seems relaxed to me. comfortable acting as a townie even. kelsier's aggressive. geript's posts make no sense to me. Two Wanting to know more, I ask why he posted this. + Show Spoiler + On July 18 2015 18:39 Rels wrote: I don't understand this sentence. Are you town or scum reading his "relaxed" posts ? Three His explanation is the following: JonnyLaw posted to defend FecalFeast against someone saying that FecalFeast was doing "weird smilies". This explanation is false, as the one being accused of doing "weird smilies" was plotspot. + Show Spoiler + On July 20 2015 02:41 JonnyLaw wrote: @rels when i said he feels relaxed someone was accusing him of being scum for using "weird smilies." is this really a thing? i thought he just posted whatever he wanted since it was a couple hours into day 1 at the time. Forth When I ask Jonny to confirm that explanation, he backs off and abandon his previous explanation. + Show Spoiler + On July 20 2015 03:04 JonnyLaw wrote: oh uhh...sure I don't know what I was thinking there to be honest. I was writing a quick post before I passed out after a late night. Apparently it's what I felt at that particular moment. We can debate this one line if that's what you want but I'd rather talk about someone important. Conclusion The problem here isn't that he made a sentence without explanation. Lots of people here have posted "tone reads" or stuff like that. The problem is that he made up a false explanation, then gave it up when asked to confirm it. This is a pretty good case actually. I'm reading his post again where he ends up voting geript. | ||
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On July 20 2015 03:25 plotspot wrote: In the spoilers are basically the summary of notable events to me from p18 to 23. + Show Spoiler + Damdred 0. pushing off a lynch on Geript and suggests Jonny or FF. 3. doesn’t want to lynch yamato 5. wants to consider lynching rayn, 14. reinforces reason on why ff is mafia Geript: 1. wants to lynch yamato, accusing him all sort of stuff, (yamato is a girl? ok), 2. wants to lynch Rayn for doing less than he could as town, basically much from the meta-soup, 4. wants to lynch Kelsier for asking stupid questions and being stupid in general 6. thinks either Rayn or jonny is mafia. 7. back to the circle of lynching among yamato/Rayn/Kelsier 8. (geript never thought of ff as scum, rather town) 9. add Onegu to the circle of possible mafia 20. more yamato Vayne: 10. thinks Onegu might be scum 11. 50/50 on jonny 12. ff looks town 18. Damdred is town Rels: 13. thinks geript is town XX. votes jonny Rayn: 15. votes Damdred 16. geript is town 17. Onegu might be scum 19. explains why Damdred is scum Yamato: 21. geript is mafia 22. Rayn and damdred both probably town It kinda boils down to Damdred, geript VS Rayn, Kelsier I am still thinking which side makes more sense. @geript: would be nice if you could provide the reasons why there is one town/mafia between Rayn and Jonny. I've thought damdred was town the whole game | ||
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On July 20 2015 03:04 JonnyLaw wrote: oh uhh...sure I don't know what I was thinking there to be honest. I was writing a quick post before I passed out after a late night. Apparently it's what I felt at that particular moment. We can debate this one line if that's what you want but I'd rather talk about someone important. I want to know where geript's tunneled idea comes from that either rayn OR I have to be scum. Checking now, but as far as I recall he's picking out two players who didn't interact in the thread and calling one of them scum. it feels like a ploy, i mean like a set up play to divert attention. Think this way. "i'm going into this game with this plan to keep town focused on two people." that's not town behavior. It's a way to get town lynched, possibly two of them. this keeps the town distracted when one of them flips green. brilliant but i'm not digging it geript. ##vote geript geript has made that point about rayn and yourself. But he has also talked about yamato and wanting to lynch me so he isn't trying to keep town focused. that point about you is enough to make you vote geript or did you read my case aswell? | ||
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On July 20 2015 03:34 Damdred wrote: Rels make sure you vote for jonny. Kel as stubborn as you are, tell keywords the vote on,Geript doesn't look,horrible by jonny i'm trying to figure him out right now. I don't think im being particularly stubborn, again there has been no refutation to my case and geript refuses to answer questions but instead says horrible things about me so I have no reason to change my read right now, | ||
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On July 20 2015 03:40 Damdred wrote: And tell me how that's good mafia play by geript? In assassination when you were heavily suspicious of him didn't he bend,over backwards to get you off his back? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me do Geript as scum to basically say f you I think,x y z is scum. geript wasn't in that game. | ||
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additionally I am presenting a clear case here with evidence from this game, so "look how he behaved in this game X months ago" does not hold much sway with me. | ||
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On July 20 2015 03:46 Damdred wrote: That's to bad the,because what you are saying doesn't make him,scum at all just dick town so you didn't even read the case against him then | ||
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On July 20 2015 03:49 Damdred wrote: No I just think,it'd a bad case. Where Geript doesn't care. And I see no mafia motivation in what he's doing My reads are clear plot, Kel is dumb town. Geript also thinks rayn is town why is it a bad case? I actually think my case against geript is well thought out, so calling me "dumb" is ridiculous. | ||
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On July 20 2015 03:59 geript wrote: Mafia struggle to make good cases. And I was right about my points on your worthless original push. So get rekt mafia. you didn't respond to the case at all you just said that i asked stupid questions and called me mafia for it. | ||
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On July 19 2015 03:52 KelsierSC wrote: i was wanting you to really explain how that post made you read yam as mafia because you had yamato as mafia before that post even happened. so you say he is town when he is short and dickish, but essentially you first mafia read him for these posts. where clearly he is being long-winded mafia? =) On July 19 2015 04:18 KelsierSC wrote: yam didn't respond to you , he was saying you would be a good lynch. You have mentioned his response to you, and to your vote. where is this? The reason I had to ask constantly was because it was important to establish the timeline. You stated that you thought yamato was mafia for being "not short/not an asshole". This didn't ring right in my head so I checked the timeline and I asked you specifically about that post. you confirmed that the post i quoted led you to believe that yamato was mafia. But as I pointed out you had yamato as mafia before he even posted that. It was for two short posts about plynching plotspot. which goes against your reasoning I don't have to convince you that you're mafia, I just have to convince town. posted again so people actually read this and can think clearly without other people trying to disrupt the game. | ||
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On July 20 2015 04:04 geript wrote: So I correctly stated your alignment and what you were doing. And I've correctly pointed out an EXACT conversation that is a homolog so that people can see it if they read back. So how does that make me wrong again mafia? you have tried to muddy the waters , personally insult me and deliberately change the conversation because my case is correct. | ||
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On July 20 2015 04:09 geript wrote: Perhaps if you weren't mafia you'd be able to understand the meaning of the words "short" and "more". i'm not sure what you are talking about here | ||
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i've made my case. read it, comment etc. give some input | ||
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On July 20 2015 04:16 geript wrote: Then grab a dictionary and read what the words mean especially as it regards the context I used them in. Because short can mean brief, the opposite of tall or rude/curt among other things. More is an adjective that enumerates a larger amount. So when I say she is more short and assholey as town. And that I'm not reading her town. That does not mean that she's not being rude/jerk/short/assholey. It means that she is not being those thing as much as she would be as town. It's literally the English language and how it works. DO YOU SPEAK IT?????????? The case I made is that you claimed to be scum reading yamato over the post I quoted, yet in your timeline you had yamato as mafia before this for two short asshole posts. So what you are claiming is you expected him to make more of the shorter posts and that just the two you saw weren't enough? What do you mean by you didn't like yamato's response to you and your vote because I didn't see him say anything to you at all. | ||
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On July 20 2015 04:22 Damdred wrote: Both of you stop being assholes and vote for mafia jonny. Your confirmation biased at this point Kel. You are omgus biased Geript. Her over it and vote jonny i'm actually asking fair questions and not insulting anyone so i don't know why you feel the need to traffic cop this. | ||
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On July 20 2015 04:34 Damdred wrote: You are trapped in a narrative and can't explain to me how anything I brought up has scum motivation behind it. You are stuck in the narrative and everything that happens you aren't looking at it and trying to,'re evaluate even when your town reads are saying Geript is probably town what are you talking about, my case is still the same, the only thing that changed is that geript hadn't actually answered the case against him but instead went ahead and called me scum. I'm questioning someone I think is mafia so please if you have nothing to add apart from "it's a bad case" with no reasons why. then let me get on with it. | ||
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On July 20 2015 04:50 geript wrote: No. Please continue to be wrong Mr Mafia. The post you quoted was why I continued to scum read him. ok so before that post you were scum reading him your reason for scum reading him is because as town he makes short/asshole posts. Before the one i quoted he only had those two short posts about plotspot. so you're saying you thought he would have made more of those shorter posts ? | ||
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On July 20 2015 04:59 geript wrote: ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER. DO YOU SPEAK IT???!!!!???j?!!!! I've literally explained this shit multiple times. It doesn't take a PhD in English to understand what I wrote in context. Yet you continue to try and make the same argument over and over again while continuing to take things out of context. Would you like to claim mafia now or would you like to claim mafia when I lynch you for being mafia? ok please stop insulting me it is rather unpleasant I am actually asking you a question here i'm not taking things out of context. Before the one i quoted he only had those two short posts about plotspot. so you're saying you thought he would have made more of those shorter posts ? I also want you to answer about yamato's response to you because he never said anything to you at all. | ||
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On July 20 2015 04:56 Rels wrote: Not talking to you. I read what you actually wrote and I think you're town. Please read. I want KSC to explain his accusation 'cause I'm not seeing it. I mean.. I thought you did understand it On July 20 2015 01:13 Rels wrote: Caught up with the thread. I agree that geript is weird today. This post in particular: geript, if you've been clear about this, I didn't understand. I had the same interrogation than KSC. But I don't want to lynch him today, 'cause I can't imagine a mafia being that loud about something day 1, when it's the easiest way to being lynch. I think Damdred said something similar about geript, like if he was mafia he would be way nicer than that. I also think i've explained this a few times but ok. 1.geript gave his scum read on yamato and a vote. reason "yamato is short/ a dick when he is town" he makes it clear than in the post i quoted he thinks yamato is being longer winded and not that much of an ass. 2. however before yamato even made that post geript had called yamato mafia, until that point yamato had only made two short/asshole posts about plotspot. so this reasoning made no sense. I may have got the wrong end of the stick about this because I think geript is saying he expected to see more of the short posts. where as I looked at the two short posts and saw "short/asshole posts" how does geript see yamato as being long winded here. he also mentions yamato's response to him which I don't see. | ||
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On July 20 2015 05:14 geript wrote: SHe's actually responded to me a few time even though neither of us have directly aimed comments at each other. Because you see, that is how she plays. You can troll her and poke her and get an easy read on her. So even though she didn't say "Geript,.... blah blah blah." and even though I didn't say "Yamato... blah blah blah" we can actually respond back and forth. Crazy I know. Again. You're continuing to fail at the English language. You see, words can be both an adjective and a noun. You see, words, even when used as an adjective, don't necessarily have to be directly modifying a noun. Rather when an adjective is the predicate, the noun the adjective modifies is the subject. This is literally taught and understood by 7 year olds. If you would like to continue asking a question I've already answered, then perhaps you should find a dictionary and look up all of the meanings of the word "short." Then, if you take a look at how I used the word short in context of what I said, then you would be able to realize what I've been saying. Perhaps. Maybe. Not likely, because you're mafia. Can you answer this question for me QUOTE]Before the one i quoted he only had those two short posts about plotspot. so you're saying you thought he would have made more of those shorter posts ?[/QUOTE] So what was yamato's response to you then? | ||
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On July 20 2015 05:14 Rels wrote: I asked myself the same question regarding yamato's post; but rereading geript's post, he clearly said that yamato post was dickish, just not dickish enough. That's not true though right ? Yamato made this post: Then geript made this one: Looking at the timestamps, geript's one come after yamato's. no geript gave a scum list that had yam as mafia on it | ||
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On July 20 2015 05:16 KelsierSC wrote: Can you answer this question for me So what was yamato's response to you then? formatting | ||
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On July 20 2015 05:18 geript wrote: You mean this post that I've already told you about if you had read anything I'd posted. You me this post. Take your choice. It literally doesn't matter. Because you die soon. Unfortunately not today. oh, he's not really responding to you, he is just saying he wants to lynch you. what response did you want him to have? | ||
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On July 20 2015 05:22 geript wrote: There's literally zero point to lynch JLaw when we could lynch Kelsier who is pretending to have the mental acuity of a potato. We could lynch Yamato for being on the rag and literally doing absolutely nothing whatsoever or making anything other than the barest hint of appearance to do anything. totally makes sense for you to vote him then | ||
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On July 20 2015 05:24 geript wrote: It is a response to provocation. That is in fact responding to me. Perhaps if you had pretended to listen or read or think about anything I write whatsoever, you'd realize how awful you look and start to bus your least pretty cheerleader teammate. if you had explained that earlier then I wouldn't have questioned you about it. you said he responded to you and I didn't see it. you are actually an unbearable person bye | ||
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I think I was wrong on geript, I misunderstood what he was trying to say and he did fight against me hard. I agree that johnny doesn't look good. VA made good points, Rels case is strong but I want to get his response. I'm also not liking yamato at this point, I basically get a dirty feeling when I read him because it felt like he was sort of pocketing me. from early d1 I don't really like plotspot either and his list post definitely isn't strong. Plus I don't like how he tried to clarify things into, "well it's these two worlds right." Saying there has to be scum between me and geript, rayn and damdred. that feels like setting up an excuse to vote another town d2 maybe. On July 20 2015 03:25 plotspot wrote: In the spoilers are basically the summary of notable events to me from p18 to 23. + Show Spoiler + Damdred 0. pushing off a lynch on Geript and suggests Jonny or FF. 3. doesn’t want to lynch yamato 5. wants to consider lynching rayn, 14. reinforces reason on why ff is mafia Geript: 1. wants to lynch yamato, accusing him all sort of stuff, (yamato is a girl? ok), 2. wants to lynch Rayn for doing less than he could as town, basically much from the meta-soup, 4. wants to lynch Kelsier for asking stupid questions and being stupid in general 6. thinks either Rayn or jonny is mafia. 7. back to the circle of lynching among yamato/Rayn/Kelsier 8. (geript never thought of ff as scum, rather town) 9. add Onegu to the circle of possible mafia 20. more yamato Vayne: 10. thinks Onegu might be scum 11. 50/50 on jonny 12. ff looks town 18. Damdred is town Rels: 13. thinks geript is town XX. votes jonny Rayn: 15. votes Damdred 16. geript is town 17. Onegu might be scum 19. explains why Damdred is scum Yamato: 21. geript is mafia 22. Rayn and damdred both probably town It kinda boils down to Damdred, geript VS Rayn, Kelsier I am still thinking which side makes more sense. @geript: would be nice if you could provide the reasons why there is one town/mafia between Rayn and Jonny. So I would lynch johnny, plot or yamato here I don't feel like I was insulting anyone today, i'm trying not to so I guess if I said something mean to geript then I apologise I was actually just trying to figure out what you were saying. | ||
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like when I made that push on geript he said On July 19 2015 04:01 yamato77 wrote: geript, you've dug your own hole here and On July 19 2015 04:09 yamato77 wrote: Well you should probably explain, given that a good portion of my townreads want to lynch him. then further on I got, I don't know it just felt a bit dirty. Nothing strong Plus he gives plots this weird easy town read and I don't like him either so. | ||
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final scum could be dispirited and not really giving a fuck trying to establish another push by themselves. or scum just wasn't around for EOD. | ||
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On July 20 2015 07:26 geript wrote: If there's mafia on the wagon, then I think it's more likely to be Rels, Vayne or Kelsier. But I kinda think the people on the wagon are far more likely to be town. Except maybe Kelsier. His vote was pretty superfluous and his read on me was literally insane. I don't want to argue with you about the read on you being "insane", you will just say mean things about me again. That was my interpretation of events and why I read you as scum. I was already suspicious of johnny and when he didn't come back to answer I voted him. | ||
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On July 20 2015 02:22 yamato77 wrote: Geript is not town. Rayn ands damdred both probably are Johnny lynch is a complete crapshoot. I'd lynch yamato tomorrow over onegu , like I said it felt like he was pocketing me , felt dirty. plus this doesn't look great | ||
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On July 20 2015 08:11 geript wrote: Why is why I've noted that I can see how you could be town just reading something wrong. I doubt it but it's possible. ok just to clarify how i saw things geript "yamato is short/asshole when he is town" kelsier "yamato posted short/asshole posts , and you called him mafia then, this makes no sense" what actually happened geript "yamato makes short/asshole as town, (i expect to see more of those short/asshole posts)" if you just explained the green earlier we were cool. | ||
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On July 20 2015 09:47 geript wrote: Random thought. Let's lynch Yam. i agree | ||
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rayn,onegu,yamato,plotspot,milo So in order of most town to scum I think of that group rayn has been the towniest, he may have been wrong a few times. (johnny,damdred,geript) but I think his thought process about the geript lynch was good and his read on damdred seemed like he believed it. Plus he claimed "lynch damdred if he is town lynch me d2" which feels very committal. Onegu - I have no idea what is happening , totally bizarre day. Plotspot, he's played weird. his early d1 seemed very strange, then his list post On July 19 2015 03:28 plotspot wrote: Thess are my rough reads so far. Damdred: general sense making which is NAI, but does seem very involving and effortful, hence town lean Fecalfeast: not sure if “angry” is the right word but IMO he overreacts with the “I concede”, voting himself, talking to yamato about bussing, it’s all NAI. KSC: claiming VT, kinda aggressive towards me, is he town for doing this? Could he be mafia setting up an agenda? Onegu: pff, town? He’s quite carefree in his posts, I’d read him town. Yamato: suggesting a policy lynch, yamato not explaining a lot of things in the beginning, the interaction with Rels later kinda gives him his first townpoints in my eyes, This kinda explains pretty well why I’d think yamato is town. JonnyLaw: ? too few posts, the tone looks towny though I don’t have any meta Geript: geript has a pregame excuse of being rather inactive, too few posts, I can’t read anything from him yet, though it is of course strange how he doesn’t explain why he wants to lynch Onegu, yamato or Kelsier Raynpelikoneet (mispelled filter name): I’d say town, but he draws so much ogi and meta, also some of his reads are quite mind-boggling to me: Like: 1. yamato is town after 3-4 posts of his 2. Vayne being town after 2 posts 3. jonnylaw 4-5 posts into town The thing is I kinda agree and have town vibes about them, but I don’t say “townpile” or “is town”, but that may just be the way he expresses himself. Rels: I’d tend to agree with VA, but Rels is like this, asking many questions, often citing unanswered questions from somebody else and asking them to be answered, it’s NAI imo. Not sure about Rels, could have been voting me to get info. VayneAuthority: late, but imo good entrance, he does provide reasons for his reads when prompted, townlean I have to eat dinner now. If you want my opinion on particular topics, I'll try to give my opinions later. he sort of slips johnny as town for no reason. @plotspot I want to know how your yamato read developed. @Rayn you brought up about how his EOD made no sense from a mafia perspective. Can you explain this to me. Milo - AFK Yamato - Again I have my own personal feeling that he was pocketing me, his reaction to having a mafia lynched was totally out of proportion. He was against a johnny lynch On July 20 2015 02:22 yamato77 wrote: Geript is not town. Rayn ands damdred both probably are Johnny lynch is a complete crapshoot. He then came back with this. On July 20 2015 10:01 yamato77 wrote: You are all retarded Don't pat yourselves on the back just because you lynched a mafia today this isn't how town should feel. Plus that d1 lynch was actually very good, VA and rels made good cases and he didn't come back for the defence. So calling people who voted him retarded just isn't a good assesment. Milo - AFK probably mafia. I'd lynch Yamato or Plotspot tomorrow. Milo probably gets modkilled. | ||
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On July 20 2015 21:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: There is no way plotspot as mafia is going to save JL at that point. He would have bussed for cred if he was mafia most likely. well he'd already called johnny town so it looks bad if he just decides to jump on the wagon at the end | ||
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On July 20 2015 21:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: Kelsier: If my thought process on geript was good why did you continue pushing him? Because I just went back and read through. The first time I saw it I still thought geript was mafia so I kept pushing him. | ||
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On July 20 2015 22:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: So what has changed? Just because i was right and geript is most likely town does not mean i am town for it. Well I don't think geript is mafia anymore so I could go back and look at things with a different perspective. I looked over the people who didn't vote on Johnny. I had you as town from D1 anyway and I saw that post about geript being town because mafia just wasn't giving a fuck about saving him. That seemed to come from a town perspective. | ||
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On July 21 2015 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: My reasoning is obviously based on the first three posts. However, my question to you still stands and you still haven't answered me. Why is Damdred making the same read based on same posts a towntell but me doing it is not? i think he explained this already. The time he didn't read you town for it was because you hadn't given the explanation that Damdred had. | ||
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On July 21 2015 03:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: It is impossible because: (1) He posted AFTER i had given my reasoning (2) I gave my reasoning BEFORE Damdred you didn't give a reason for yamato being town after yamato's initial 3 posts that is what he is talking about | ||
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On July 21 2015 03:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: I understand. What i don't understand is Damdred did the EXACT same thing i did. Why does he come to a totally different conclusion regarding us two? Just because i say "toen and Damdred says "maybe town". Given the explanations we gave, especailly when i say "i am not 100% sure of this but.." it should be clear to anyone with any brain that is just how i word things - and that me and Damdred mean the exact same thing. oh yeh I see the first time Damdred read yamato as town now. that's a good point | ||
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On July 21 2015 03:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: I understand. What i don't understand is Damdred did the EXACT same thing i did. Why does he come to a totally different conclusion regarding us two? Just because i say "toen and Damdred says "maybe town". Given the explanations we gave, especailly when i say "i am not 100% sure of this but.." it should be clear to anyone with any brain that is just how i word things - and that me and Damdred mean the exact same thing. I think what he is getting at is your explanation of the read , specifically this post On July 18 2015 18:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dont think onegu has posted much alignment indicative thngs so far. Maaaaaayyyyybe he is town as he seems to be interested in my read on him. Idk yet. He uses alot of AtE as scum. We'll see. Yamato is town because there is a clarly seen thought process behind his posting. Imo his posts as mafia lack that. It's hard to explain. I'll elaborate further in case people think he is mafia when i get home in ~10h. comes at a point where yamato hasn't made that many posts and plot can't see this "thought process idea". whereas damdred just said, "yeh maybe he's town with no explanation. when damdred gave the longer explanation for why yamato is town it made more sense given that yamato had posted more. Basically you explained your read too early is the overall idea i guess. | ||
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I'm looking through his stuff and his responses to me, given how eager he is to explain his thought process and interact here I don't want to lynch him tomorrow | ||
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On July 21 2015 03:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: The problem still stands. Damdred says he has a townread on yamato at the same time i do (only 3-4 posts in). I explain my read. yamato posts more. Damdred gives his explanation after yamato posts more (but talks about only of those 3-4 first posts). I give more of an explanation which is the same as Damdred's (as it was at first aswell). plotspot agrees with Damdred's explanation but somehow mine isn't good (while he is even townreading yamato aswell). On July 19 2015 00:12 Damdred wrote: Rayn and I use the same metric for reading Yamato, and a lot of it comes from experience in playing with him For instance the somewhat pushing the policy lynch and some of his other posts just feel like he's thinking about the game a little bit at least. I can't quote atm but I'm pretty sure he is town. Oneg might be scum for actually trying early d1 instead of using the oneg rule or trolling around until later. I think rayn is town here, he seems much more measured. Like kels as well. And to ff statement about anger some of your posts fo feel angry or perturbed like when I had to drag a interaction out of you, and when you are willing to get your page of filter fast about nothing meh ff could still be scum When damdred posted this, that doesn't mean he is just talking about the first 2 posts. I can see where plotspot is coming from, because you explained the read early it came to his attention. I think that is reasonable. What's more important is his tone here, his willingness to explain and interact. He feels much townier to me than he did. | ||
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On July 21 2015 03:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: It also makes pretty much no sense to me he is interested in me amongst other three people. He can't make up his mind if one of us is mafia. I apparently hadn't answered him properly. He NEVER re-questions me about my yamato read while i am one of the people he considers possible mafia. He just sits with his "idk reads" for the whole day not wanting to figure out anything. mhmm yeh his day was pretty terrible I don't know | ||
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On July 21 2015 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like the bolded part is LITERALLY yamato's opening post!! Why would you ever think Damdred's read on yamato comes from different posts than mine does, as he LITERALLY uses yamato's opening post as evidence - backed up by the fact Damdred says "yamato might be town" after only three posts of his. Like there is no reason to ever assume my read comes from different posts than Damdred*s. Damdred also says "some other posts" so he isn't necessarily only taking about the first 2. It's a really small detail rayn, like you explained the read early, that probably latched onto his mind. He might be scum , his day was bad and I didn't like the 2 world thing he was trying to set up. but I think his interactions this night have been ok. | ||
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On July 21 2015 04:03 Damdred wrote: Geript was starting to get support for a Yamato lynch actually kel was going for him to. And I believe I started pushing them back, simple truth I don't think geript could of convinced the people who were active to go I guess? there was no support for that lynch | ||
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On July 21 2015 04:12 Damdred wrote: Well one thing to consider with Yamato is that jl committed to lynching geript when it was easy to lynch him. Yamato only got a lot more attention when the geript wagon died down, so its super possible that mafia team was more afk and whoever was active might of thought it better foe the town cred. The Yamato push came a hit late in earnest to me at least well the geript wagon was started in earnest by me and when I reevaluated I thought yamato was scum so that isn't massively surprising | ||
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On July 21 2015 04:18 geript wrote: Information wise. That makes Yam the best vigi shot. Fg/Rayn/onegu/plots the cop check. Maybe even Rels noo way rels is clear town | ||
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On July 21 2015 04:22 geript wrote: I disagree. I see newer mafia attack things they think look like scumslips all the time. And his first two attacks on JL are pretty odd. That may be the case, but the person he attacked was mafia. | ||
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On July 21 2015 04:29 geript wrote: Like Rels case on Jlaw is pretty good. But there's something that really bugs me about kels picking up on jlaw's first post. Like I wouldnt lynch him yet, but I wouldnt hate a cop check on him. sorry geript I don't understand what you mean. | ||
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On July 21 2015 05:12 Onegu wrote: onegu is here and like how you guys go on about how only one and most likely zero scum were on the JL wagon is so bad. Like looking back on it he was a good bus target. Like rels is the only really townie guy on there. your only other lynch target is rayn and he wasn't on there. | ||
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On July 21 2015 05:24 yamato77 wrote: I have the rest of today and all day tomorrow to play this game. If I am vigged tonight you are all quite bad players and should be ashamed. #vigshot | ||
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On July 21 2015 06:09 Damdred wrote: Like I would rather Yamato not be shot at all and like oneg or someone else shot just a feeling though you and rayn read yamato the same way rayn wants to kill yamato now, so why is he wrong? | ||
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On July 21 2015 06:14 Damdred wrote: Idk, original stuff is ok but he can afk as either alignment meh. Idk how to explain my gut I think there's more than just the AFK stuff against him but ok if that's your gut. I agree this onegu stuff since entering the thread again is pretty bad, calling VA mafia is incorrect imo. onegu or yamato i'd be ok with | ||
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On July 21 2015 06:30 yamato77 wrote: I'll explain my reads later. considering there is a good chance you die here it would be good if you explain your reads. | ||
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On July 21 2015 06:51 yamato77 wrote: you are also a jubjub but I know you to be chronic jubjub so you're probably still town that is to say, geript is also bad but never quite this bad i'm just asking you to explain your reads you don't have to insult me | ||
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On July 21 2015 06:49 yamato77 wrote: Also, let's take a look at geript's posts about Johnny, since the best argument I can really make for geript being town at this point is that he voted for Johnny... Why is rayn's townread bad? Why is rayn having weak townreads early a bad thing? This post on its own makes little sense, and he's using it to set up this: Which is a post full of bullshit. Why is there exactly one mafia between Johnny and rayn, precisely? None of his mafia reads make a whole lot of sense and his townread of damdred is some stupid cop-out read. Doesn't really seem all that interested in actually lynching johnny zzzz more of this shit Siiiiiiiiiiiick And he wants to lynch johnny because? lawl ??????? He says while voting johnny In short, geript essentially fabricated horrible reasons for scumreading people all day and then managed to put his vote on the johnny wagon for ? reason and left it there while trying his best to get me lynched instead. And now there's no reason for me to read him town This is a pretty good post actually. | ||
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On July 21 2015 07:12 geript wrote: ##vote yamato 2 goons flip town gets a sane cop 3rd mafia isn't a gf Odds not very high good post | ||
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On July 21 2015 07:42 VayneAuthority wrote: did anyone besides rayn think rels was "the towniest player?" I cant remember. I mean im pretty much cleared just by that i would never NK some one that i dont even know who they are lmao. I made it clear I thought he was town. I don't think I explicitly said he was the towniest though | ||
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On July 21 2015 08:19 yamato77 wrote: stop fucking fakeclaiming I'm tempted to policy lynch you for this shit to prove a point but alas, geript still exists i haven't fake claimed in like 6 games or something so I have no idea what you are on about | ||
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On July 21 2015 08:20 yamato77 wrote: it's a message to EVERYONE to stop fakeclaiming as town it's incredibly fucking stupid how pleasant | ||
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ok i'm just playing a game and having fun but you go ahead and do your thing. | ||
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On July 22 2015 03:31 Holyflare wrote: basically because i got tired of twat faces claiming blues so i eliminated all of them and if there were no gf you'd probably figure that out quite quickly and just potentially win from being an un-cc'd blue so it makes it more risky on your end wow | ||
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