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On July 21 2015 21:24 Rels wrote: GG. Intrigued by this way of playing without knowing your role D1. With your two experiences now, what do you think of it ? It's actually 3.^^ Not sure, it's interesting. Presume I play blind and I play it perfectly, than it will come down to me scumreading myself if I was scum, because of PoE right? This game I really had most towns as town reads, maybe not Kelsier and ff because they were a bit strange. Bur for example if I was scum and actually lynched another scum on D1, then find out about it N1, I basically have some town creds. If I had enough guts to point fingers and townies with actually another partner still alive and supporting, I think it's still no problem. If I die as scum on D1 with that sort of play, the benefit would be that there is no connection established between me and my other scum mates. Also this means my town-game sucked and I got lynched D1. Fine too. Improve next time. The thing is 75% of the time I should roll as town and whether I play a towngame as town or not knowing my role, it should be the same. 25% when I roll scum, the situation is still not lost as I decribed above, there are advantages and disadvantages, it totally depends on the scumteam too, like you see in this situation. I'm not sure whether they were disheartened or were simply absent for some reason. I think I'll definitely try this in a next game too, it will be interesting to see how people react to it too, when they actually know or suspect that I actually do this stuff. Like what would you do to a guy who doesn't know his role? Policy lynch him? As town you'd think "ok this guy is definitely helping town with scumhunting here, but it obviously depends on how good he is at it, and then he could be still scum 25% of the time, do I wait and someone cop-check hims later or what?" Many options. As scum you'd think "ok, I know definitely this guys is town. Do we get rid of him and slowly push a policy lynch on him, would that not make us suspicious? Is he any good as town? Should we let him live and push a lynch later?" or they go "ok this guy is stupid, he is scum, but doesn't come here, we have to decide what we do with him, not that he busses us without knowing, is he smart enough to scumread us?" I could go on with this but it's just so many things. I was actually intending to continue playing in the dark. But the whole milo thing and that I basically read almost everyone town kinda makes think I might be scum here, and so it was.^^ | ||
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On July 21 2015 21:41 Damdred wrote: Also yeah you didn't play horrible plot it basically came down to there weren't enough scummy people for you to get enough ml. Its no fault of your own, it was the reaction that got it for me though on the red check yeah that's the main point, not enought scummy people. But I really think Kel could still be cop here, he got his reactions regardless and established so many people town. On July 21 2015 21:55 Damdred wrote: I think you will find that 9/10 people will policy lynch you for not reading your role pm, it was a thing awhile ago and I think if people know/find out you will get lynched d1 regardless. It makes you unreadable to an extent but meh Milo is usually pretty active idk what was up with that weird. ok, I kinda understand that. The whole uncertainty is something nobody especially a townie can bear for very long am I right? So they just kill to have the certainty, otherwise there is always this guy floating around, which you cannot absoluetely town or scumread for ANY reason. I think it really gets on their nerves. I thought it was the same for the Onegu redcheck, if you think about it for a while even as town, it makes no sense like geripts points it town. Let's assume you come to the conclusion that Onegu is town, you lynched another person and the game doesn't end. You still have this redcheck piercing your eyes the whole time. ^^ | ||
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On July 21 2015 22:02 Rels wrote: BTW you were vanilla goon too ? geript was right I suppose! nah you'll see why I believe Kels is cop.^^ | ||
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On July 21 2015 22:17 KelsierSC wrote: also my fake claim led to a concede, clearly best strat NA, will do it every game from now on I think you were townie enough to do it. | ||
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On July 22 2015 03:31 Holyflare wrote: basically because i got tired of twat faces claiming blues so i eliminated all of them and if there were no gf you'd probably figure that out quite quickly and just potentially win from being an un-cc'd blue so it makes it more risky on your end I think I should have claimed a blue role, then shoot myself at night to be conform with claimed blues being shot at night. Would have made a for a slightly more entertaining end.^^ | ||
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On July 22 2015 04:15 VayneAuthority wrote: all blue games are my favorite. one of my personal favorite setups is 4 cops and a mafia, with one cop being naive (always green), one cop paranoid (always red), insane cop (reverse read), normal cop. no one knows which cop they are if that wasnt clear so it's only 5 players? expand it to 12 of those cops plus 3 mafia and I'd be interested in hosting it. Hmm let's see but it should become pretty clear that the only useful cops will be the insane and normal cop, but you'd have to find them, yea it's quite intriguing, especially if a cop lies about his checks.^^ | ||
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On July 22 2015 04:25 Damdred wrote: I didn't mind the setup tbh hf had talked about doing it before though all millers 1 cop 3 godfathers would of been hilarious to. Don't use that one though I think Jonny lynch was a really good lynch as town decided to lynch him instead of super active geript, and what I thought was town Yamato. After that its sorta a wash as Milo didn't try but plot gave himself away. ty for the game hf that's something I didn't understand, why so quick to jump on the redcheck, was it a normal expression or did your game experiences/senses tell you to vote the redcheck right now or it will become problematic later, you had all day. I kinda get that late votes are never good. You either waste them like I did or you basically just jump on a wagon and your vote still has no value as to your alignment. It also appears you haven't figured things out fast enough and are actually not convinced of your vote. Late votes never look good, if they are not the decisive vote, or is there any contrary example? | ||
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