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Yes! Pretty happy about that lynch (=
And as geript said, this seems weird now:
On July 19 2015 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:Vayne why i read JohnnyLaw as town is because he kinda attacks geript (and only geript) in his posts. If they were both mafia he sure would have something else to talk about. If he was mafia and geript was town well... he sure would have something else to talk about.  Attacking geript is like really dumb at this point, over basically nothing.
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Alright if anybody wants to do some vote analysis you can use that:
Day 1 Votecount
fecalfeast (1): Onegu, Fecalfeast, plotspot
plotspot (0): KelsierSC, Rels
yamato77 (0): geript
kelsiersc (0): geript
geript (2): raynpelikoneet, KelsierSC, yamato77, JonnyLaw
rayn (1): Onegu
damdred (1): raynpelikoneet
onegu (1): VayneAuthority
raynpelikoneet (0): Damdred
jonnylaw (6): Rels, Damdred, Fecalfeast, geript, VayneAuthority, KelsierSC
yamato (0): KelsierSC
Onegu voted for fecalfeast
Fecalfeast voted for fecalfeast
KelsierSC voted for plotspot
geript voted for yamato77
Rels voted for plotspot
Rels unvoted
geript unvoted
geript voted for KelsierSC
raynpelikoneet voted for geript
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for geript
Fecalfeast unvoted
Onegu unvoted
Onegu voted for Rayn
yamato77 voted for geript
raynpelikoneet unvoted
raynpelikoneet voted for Damdred
VayneAuthority voted for Onegu
Damdred voted for raynpelikoneet
Rels voted for JonnyLaw
Damdred unvoted
Damdred voted for Jonnylaw
JonnyLaw voted for geript
Fecalfeast voted for jonnylaw
geript unvoted
geript voted for jonnylaw
KelsierSC unvoted
VayneAuthority unvoted
VayneAuthority voted for JonnyLaw
KelsierSC voted for Yamato
KelsierSC unvoted
KelsierSC voted for Jonnylaw
plotspot voted for fecalfeast
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My analysis:
Damdred: Was pushing for JL all game + was the second to vote for him: town read.
VA: Pushed JL from the very beginning: town read.
FF: came back to vote for JL at a time where the vote wasn't sure: town lean.
geript: hammered JL ... but against himself, so he would have done that even if mafia. Still, JL tried to push him when I started questionning him; he was the only viable lynch for a long time and nothing moved, suggesting that mafia was happy with geript being lynched: so town lean.
rayn: weird read on JL; but did call the "too EZ to be true" geript lynch: null.
KSC: tried as hard as possible to get a lynch on geript; finally changed his mind at the last moment and tried to get yamato lynched, even though he said my JL case was good; last vote on JL: scum lean.
Onegu: Seems too active for his town game day 1. Tried to discuss my argument of JL forgetting his explanation. Said he could be lynching JL but didn't vote him: scum lean.
yamato77: came back before deadline to post two things, including this one where he called JL's lynch a "crapshoot", at a time when I didn't make the case and we were only two people voting JL. So: scum lean.
Outside the vote analysis:
milo: really thought he was getting modkilled for the <1 page of activity )= let's hope he does day 2 so we don't have the disadvantage of not having day 1 reads / vote on him.
plot: don't know.
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On July 20 2015 17:37 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +rayn: weird read on JL; but did call the "too EZ to be true" geript lynch: null. rels what do you mean that rayn called the geript lynch too good to be true?
Here:
On July 20 2015 01:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
there is no way geript is mafia and none of his team isn't doing anything to save him.
so he has to be town and mafia doesn't give a fuck who (geript at the time) we are lynching.
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yamato still hasn't posted ??
If we have a vig, he should shoot him because :
- if he stays silent, we lose a day not talking about anything
- I feel almost everyone wants to lynch him, so if he is town, we won't gain any info
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On July 21 2015 04:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
meh no Damdred. It actually makes no sense for FF to be mafia.
Based on the votes and the timing geript would be more likely to be mafia.
At the time FF jumped on JL geript was still pursuing other lynches. There is a really good reason for FF to in fact go with geript against the world because if geript gets support it's more likely he will yell his lynch through over you & Rels.
Wanted to respons Damdred's post about viging FF, but this one above is what I would wrote.
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On July 21 2015 04:22 geript wrote:
I disagree. I see newer mafia attack things they think look like scumslips all the time. And his first two attacks on JL are pretty odd.
If you're talking about me, are you saying these two posts are suspicious ?
On July 18 2015 18:36 Rels wrote:@People still in this thread (yamato and rayn). Do you find this first post forced ? Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 08:17 JonnyLaw wrote:
hi guys
What's a scut? Fecalfeast is your id picked from an awesome band or....? Too scared to google it.
On July 18 2015 18:39 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 18:07 JonnyLaw wrote:
well seems dead here. 3am and head full of beer i'll be back in the morning. ff seems relaxed to me. comfortable acting as a townie even.
kelsier's aggressive. geript's posts make no sense to me. I don't understand this sentence. Are you town or scum reading his "relaxed" posts ?
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Still in favor of viging yamato. 'cause if he doesn't say shit all day tomorrow we will have nothing to talk about.
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On July 21 2015 04:37 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2015 04:36 Rels wrote:On July 21 2015 04:22 geript wrote:
I disagree. I see newer mafia attack things they think look like scumslips all the time. And his first two attacks on JL are pretty odd. If you're talking about me, are you saying these two posts are suspicious ? On July 18 2015 18:36 Rels wrote:@People still in this thread (yamato and rayn). Do you find this first post forced ? On July 18 2015 08:17 JonnyLaw wrote:
hi guys
What's a scut? Fecalfeast is your id picked from an awesome band or....? Too scared to google it. On July 18 2015 18:39 Rels wrote:On July 18 2015 18:07 JonnyLaw wrote:
well seems dead here. 3am and head full of beer i'll be back in the morning. ff seems relaxed to me. comfortable acting as a townie even.
kelsier's aggressive. geript's posts make no sense to me. I don't understand this sentence. Are you town or scum reading his "relaxed" posts ? The first more than the second. The second has some obvious wording that catches the eye.
Alright I can see why you're asking. I found this post forced for that reason:
What's a scut? : Serious question about something that happened inside the game.
Fecalfeast is your id picked from an awesome band or....? Too scared to google it. Funny comment on something outside the game.
So the two parts of this post are not connected, as if JL didn't write his first post in one go. I think it's a scum sign if you need to think before your first post.
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On July 21 2015 05:12 Onegu wrote:
onegu is here and like how you guys go on about how only one and most likely zero scum were on the JL wagon is so bad. Like looking back on it he was a good bus target.
Like rels is the only really townie guy on there.
I agree in principle. But the truth is that before geript's vote (and excluding it), JL didn't look he was going to be lynched at all. So who is bussing for you ?
jonnylaw (6): Rels, Damdred, Fecalfeast, geript, VayneAuthority, KelsierSC
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On July 21 2015 05:39 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2015 05:26 Damdred wrote:
Honestly I will admit that some of the people on the wagon do have some flaws.
However what's the point of bussing your team mate into the ground that early when you an take out a strong player in geript, or a lynch in Yamato where half the game wouldn't blame anyone for voting? Then look bad when JL does get lynched? FF/VA look the worst on the wagon btw.
I really don't agree at all with you.
FF was the third vote on JL, at a time when I didn't make the case, so geript's train was still strong, and there were other alternative.
VA attacked JL all game.
But I'll let them talk to you.
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On July 21 2015 06:09 Damdred wrote:
Like I would rather Yamato not be shot at all and like oneg or someone else shot just a feeling though
I feel the exact opposite.
Lynching yamato tomorrow will bring no info, town or mafia.
I think getting Onegu lynched will be much more interesting.
At the end of the day I think they're both likely to be scum so I'm OK to kill them both. But if I was vig I'll shoot yamato.
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The mixture of being happy for a mafia death and sad for mine! Go town
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On July 21 2015 21:16 plotspot wrote:
Nah, I concede, It’s difficult enough for me to scumhunt D1, now I actually have to make them up? Sorry, I’m not there yet. Lol and I hate lying, maybe I will if I can summarize lying into a greater concept.
And yeah rayn, while your reasons for scumreading me are good, it’s still only because I suck as town. D1 was my genuine towngame (and some people read it like that), because I only checked my role at the beginning of N1. That’s the reason why I didn’t know whether jonny was town or mafia, and really struggled with voting for him or not. I also honestly thought FF could be mafia, well not now anymore. I was thinking scumreading him, but no it’s stupid, I won’t do that.
The game you read where I had the chart thing, it was also D1 blind. I could have been mafia there too. The chart thing didn’t matter.^^. I guess Kelsier who cohosted this game with cakepie, never knew about it?
I just wanted to see what you guys will post for a while, but it’s kinda dead so yeah. Sorry I wanted to make it a bit more entertaining for you guys, but I guess it’s quite settled that you will win anyway so you are rather bored by it. It’s ok. I just thought I give you guys some time to “think” about stuff some more.XD
I think it was my fault, why this mafia game went to crap. I was never there D1. Jonny has 1 “hi”. Milo had one “hello” after 36 hours into D1. If they came here and say they lost motivation and didn’t see the chance to win because we lacked coordination for I was never there, I’d accept it.
Hmm anything else? I thought geript was funny. Lol scumato. FF was really scummy and yet so townish in his own way, I felt sorry. Suppose I was town, I could really go on, and I think I would have failed that reaction test by Kelsier, because I tend to stay back and analyze first even as town, because we still had so much time and so much things were going on.
I hope Jonny’s dog is fine, I love dogs too.
Yeah, sorry if you guys felt underwhelmed by this game. Lots of stuff came together.^^
GG.
Intrigued by this way of playing without knowing your role D1. With your two experiences now, what do you think of it ?
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On July 21 2015 21:52 plotspot wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2015 21:24 Rels wrote:On July 21 2015 21:16 plotspot wrote:
Nah, I concede, It’s difficult enough for me to scumhunt D1, now I actually have to make them up? Sorry, I’m not there yet. Lol and I hate lying, maybe I will if I can summarize lying into a greater concept.
And yeah rayn, while your reasons for scumreading me are good, it’s still only because I suck as town. D1 was my genuine towngame (and some people read it like that), because I only checked my role at the beginning of N1. That’s the reason why I didn’t know whether jonny was town or mafia, and really struggled with voting for him or not. I also honestly thought FF could be mafia, well not now anymore. I was thinking scumreading him, but no it’s stupid, I won’t do that.
The game you read where I had the chart thing, it was also D1 blind. I could have been mafia there too. The chart thing didn’t matter.^^. I guess Kelsier who cohosted this game with cakepie, never knew about it?
I just wanted to see what you guys will post for a while, but it’s kinda dead so yeah. Sorry I wanted to make it a bit more entertaining for you guys, but I guess it’s quite settled that you will win anyway so you are rather bored by it. It’s ok. I just thought I give you guys some time to “think” about stuff some more.XD
I think it was my fault, why this mafia game went to crap. I was never there D1. Jonny has 1 “hi”. Milo had one “hello” after 36 hours into D1. If they came here and say they lost motivation and didn’t see the chance to win because we lacked coordination for I was never there, I’d accept it.
Hmm anything else? I thought geript was funny. Lol scumato. FF was really scummy and yet so townish in his own way, I felt sorry. Suppose I was town, I could really go on, and I think I would have failed that reaction test by Kelsier, because I tend to stay back and analyze first even as town, because we still had so much time and so much things were going on.
I hope Jonny’s dog is fine, I love dogs too.
Yeah, sorry if you guys felt underwhelmed by this game. Lots of stuff came together.^^
GG. Intrigued by this way of playing without knowing your role D1. With your two experiences now, what do you think of it ? It's actually 3.^^ Not sure, it's interesting. Presume I play blind and I play it perfectly, than it will come down to me scumreading myself if I was scum, because of PoE right? This game I really had most towns as town reads, maybe not Kelsier and ff because they were a bit strange. Bur for example if I was scum and actually lynched another scum on D1, then find out about it N1, I basically have some town creds. If I had enough guts to point fingers and townies with actually another partner still alive and supporting, I think it's still no problem. If I die as scum on D1 with that sort of play, the benefit would be that there is no connection established between me and my other scum mates. Also this means my town-game sucked and I got lynched D1. Fine too. Improve next time. The thing is 75% of the time I should roll as town and whether I play a towngame as town or not knowing my role, it should be the same. 25% when I roll scum, the situation is still not lost as I decribed above, there are advantages and disadvantages, it totally depends on the scumteam too, like you see in this situation. I'm not sure whether they were disheartened or were simply absent for some reason. I think I'll definitely try this in a next game too, it will be interesting to see how people react to it too, when they actually know or suspect that I actually do this stuff. Like what would you do to a guy who doesn't know his role? Policy lynch him? As town you'd think "ok this guy is definitely helping town with scumhunting here, but it obviously depends on how good he is at it, and then he could be still scum 25% of the time, do I wait and someone cop-check hims later or what?" Many options. As scum you'd think "ok, I know definitely this guys is town. Do we get rid of him and slowly push a policy lynch on him, would that not make us suspicious? Is he any good as town? Should we let him live and push a lynch later?" or they go "ok this guy is stupid, he is scum, but doesn't come here, we have to decide what we do with him, not that he busses us without knowing, is he smart enough to scumread us?" I could go on with this but it's just so many things. I was actually intending to continue playing in the dark. But the whole milo thing and that I basically read almost everyone town kinda makes think I might be scum here, and so it was.^^
LOL can imagine your feeling EOD1 "fuck I must be scum right ?"
It seems like a super interesting experience I wanna try one day. But sorry, if I know you're doing this in a game I'm in, I will be part of the policy lynch. (=
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BTW you were vanilla goon too ? geript was right I suppose!
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On July 21 2015 22:11 plotspot wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2015 22:02 Rels wrote:
BTW you were vanilla goon too ? geript was right I suppose! nah you'll see why I believe Kels is cop.^^
I suppose that reduces the possibility to GF or framer.
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On July 21 2015 22:27 plotspot wrote:
lol Rels, you're actually not supposed to enter the thread like this. It could be a fake-concede.^^
Yeah maybe you're still not sure if you're mafia ? So you Schrodinger-conceding (=
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On July 22 2015 04:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
See damdred, 2 mafia down before night 2 means the game usually just works it self out
Lol that made me laugh. (=
Thanks HF for hosting and for the incredible flavor!
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On July 22 2015 05:26 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 05:21 Rels wrote:On July 22 2015 04:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
See damdred, 2 mafia down before night 2 means the game usually just works it self out Lol that made me laugh. (= Thanks HF for hosting and for the incredible flavor! haha after i saw the mafia qt had like 1 post i knew this game would end in like 1 night and didn't write anything
Héhé
But really the pictures in the OP were super nice
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