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On July 11 2015 07:29 Fidei86 wrote: If only posting first did somehow make you confirmed town. That would sure make this game a lot easier  So that everyone knows, the only players I know in the game are scott and NHM. I tunnelled scott pretty hard in the game we played together (Holy Guardians) but he was actually town. I null read NHM in HGand he was mafia, then town read him in Himalayas and he was town. I've also chatted a fair bit to HTS, but I don't know how she plays mafia. Yo I have no clue wtf those acronyms mean can u put like Nydushermain (NHM) the first time you use an acronym so I can understand what you're talking about? Who is HTS? On a game note, I think it's pretty good if we all say like what our mafia background 1) I don't know anyone except for nydus and 2) i always judge my reads on people against a background of their experience (e.g. easier to read someone new to mafia based on little things they do). I have played video mafia on DailyMafia for almost two years and have never played forum mafia before. I am basically a god. I am in a clan called the elo angels because im so good and my elo is so high. My day job involves working with and for lawyers every day so i think about thinks pretty logically and might write formally at some points based on my mood. In video mafia I usually pick up on and push on (sometimes minor) logical inconsistencies and ive noticed ive been tunnelling a bit too hard lately so that may happen this game. My only read so far is that Half the Sky is spamming. [purple]Also it allowed if i just put every post I type in purple so taht you guys always know its me?[/purple] | ||
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My initial scum read is Grokken. It's nothing all that strong but I'm getting a wierd feeling about the things he's posted. To me it feels like he is trying to find ways to participate and seem town by chiming in now and again but really has no clue what to write about. On July 11 2015 09:36 Grokken wrote: We should listen to this guy, he seems to know what he is doing. On July 11 2015 13:27 Grokken wrote: Can you elaborate on this? What in particular is it that you don't like? I think that one sentence posts that appear to contribute to the game and don't really offer anything just kind of irk me the wrong way. I guess it's worth noting he did write that thing about Dota as well which was also one sentence but that's neither here nor there when it comes to the game I think. When I went back and read the post about him showing off his dota stats that actually reads to me a bit more towny now that I think about it, so not really sure. just an initial read. | ||
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A particular player, who may be lurking, or just doesn't sound the same (voice tone, pattern, activeness, etc.) would get pinged out by another player who would say that they "feel different this game" or ask "why they're not playing the same as X game they played with them in." In some of these cases, the person would respond back by saying some variation of the phrase "I'm trying to switch up my play this game" or "I'm trying something new this game." I started to realize that when someone came back with this response most of the time they ended up being a mafia trying to cover up for there change in playstyle due to the change in alignment, or sometimes it was just an excuse to lurk e.g. "I'm going to try to sit back and listen and try to get town reads this game instead of trying to pressure the mafia to see how it works." I got a similar feeling looking back at what Moosy said (the quote that many have already noted), though I'll admit I didn't catch it the first time. One thing that I did catch, which I thought was kind of odd, is the quote below, though I'm not quite sure what it means yet. On July 12 2015 02:27 MoosyDoosy wrote: I don't agree with this but let's see what Ghandi says. It's a pretty innocuous post on it's face, but what stood out for me is that he is deferring to Ghandi before making judgment. But Ghandi's role in the context of the quoted posts is so minor that I can't think what he could possibly add to the conversation that would in turn color your judgment on Grokken's alignment. In fact, I never even mentioned Ghandi in my post. If he disagrees, ok, but why is he saying he needs to wait and see what Ghandi says? Not sure if I want to lynch him today, but he's on my radar. I still want to hear more. On July 12 2015 08:56 Fidei86 wrote: You said about ten posts ago that you were going to be town-hunting at first. Now you're saying that you're scum-hunting. Which is it?? I think you're reaching a bit here. This post seems so opposite to everything else you've written this game. What gives? | ||
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On July 12 2015 22:26 KelsierSC wrote: ##Vote: Wonnaplay Kelsier, I'm wondering if you would care to explain what factors weighed in on your decision here to vote for Wonnaplay as opposed to Grokken when from your previous post it appears you considered them equally scummy for the same reason? | ||
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On July 12 2015 22:43 WonnaPlay wrote: "Sheep me, I'm good at this game" or "I act as scum and see if anyone bites, then I attack them" - Onegu Card? So basically Kelsier is trying to get newer players to attack him, because he is sowing nonsense. To see if other people just blatantly follow those new players, which means that those followers or "sheep" are probably mafia players looking to get an easy kill? If this is what he's doing, then I think that his posts make more sense indeed, however I think it's provoking the wrong reactions in a newbie game. I think it's more like: Act like a fool and get town read for it. | ||
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I woke up this morning to see more posts from MD that read scum to me. I didn't think you were even allowed to vote for yourself. To me I haven't seen any protown content coming out of any of his posts, and his recent ones seem blatantly anti-town. And what really stands with me is that these are posts from someone who claims to apparently have been unanimously townread by all players but one in some recent previous forum mafia game. See his post on July 11 2015 at 16:30, ("I was an earnest townie last Newbie Student Mafia game with a monster filter. :3 Besides ruXxar everyone pretty much knew I was a townie which is why I want to change things up here and make things interesting.") I'm not buying it that this is a result of you switching up your play. | ||
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On July 12 2015 23:20 Fidei86 wrote: TJH - slightly weird question here, but are you NHM's boyfriend? I only ask because he said he was going to ask his BF to play, and I was wondering if that was you. Yes. | ||
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On July 12 2015 23:38 Fidei86 wrote: Do you know whether NHM has any OOC reasons for not being in the thread over the last day or so? Yes. | ||
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On July 13 2015 03:31 MoosyDoosy wrote: This is not a classic scum tell. It's pretty obvious I'm being a shitty townie so his analysis is pretty on point as usual. I really don't see how you guys think I'm Mafia. XD Can you explain to me how I am supposed to differentiate "shitty townie" play from Mafia play? The way your posts are reading to me now it sounds like you are a mafia resigned to their fate. If that's not the case then what is your play here? Do you have anyone you think is mafia? Anyone that you think is town? Any reasons for those reads? Any reasoning for why you have been writing/acting like a 14 year old for the last 12 hours? I'm going to be seriously upset if you are lynched and flip town because all that I will be thinking is: "What the fuck?" | ||
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On July 13 2015 03:42 KelsierSC wrote: their lists are just LR's of a very small thread with no interesting opinions. Shit lists = mafia What's LR? | ||
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1. MoosyDoosy 2. Sulfuras 3. Grokken Scott, NHM, and silentwarrior are all in a 3rd category for me which includes players that haven't impressed me with their content and have not left any last impact on me. Might be mafia, might be town. I would rather wait until day 2 to deal with this group since it may give them more time to provide content for me to figure out their alignment. Personally, I'd rather kill someone whos acting scummy than someone whos just a crap shoot (actually if this were video mafia I would pressure them and force them to talk but I can't really do that here.) If at EOD 2 I still have nothing on those three, I would advocate to shooting, cop checking, lynching them. I would caution against vig shooting or cop checking any of the lurkers this night because I don't think it will really help progress our scum leads much. A vig shot is better saved on a clearly scummy person (same logic as above) and cop check better on someone whos a bit more active. | ||
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On July 13 2015 07:13 Half the Sky wrote: We pointed that out in page 15. Nothing was changed after the fact. I'd have responded to you but some mods modkill if you post after deadline and as a moderator myself I didn't want to chance that. You pointed that out but none the less his vote was included in the voting thread for quite some time both before and after. I thought that perhaps it was frowned upon but no strictly forbidden. The fact that it was not corrected until after the time in the day ended is unacceptable imo. I feel very strongly about the integrity of games that I am in and it just annoys me when something like this happens. | ||
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On July 13 2015 07:16 KelsierSC wrote: I can give you a hint + Show Spoiler + sulf was mafia! also please don't criticise mods the way you did, they run games for us and it isn't easy. The mistake was made: that's fine. Everyone makes mistakes. To retroactively correct the mistake after the day ends instead of leaving it as is? Unacceptable from a game integrity standpoint. But we got a mafia; it's whatever. I get passionate about lynches. | ||
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On July 13 2015 07:20 n00bKing wrote: That's odd that you would think that, considering that this happened, all the way back on Page 13: My point is the vote remained on the voting thread and was included in the vote counts until a minute or two after the day concluded. | ||
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I would have voted for Grokken. I think Ghandi was a mistake. | ||
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On July 16 2015 08:18 Half the Sky wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488742-newbie-student-mafia-xii?page=11#210 Those of you looking into Grokken consider this from D1. This was actually one of the major reasons I put him as #2 on my mafia list on day 1. I thought that it was probable he was caught and a lie and was tying to "talk" his way out of it. | ||
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On July 16 2015 08:23 MoosyDoosy wrote: If you die where does that leave us? I would like it if you could post it now for me and HtS to dissect. I may die. But, considering a significant amount of people think that I am mafia (see the three players who voted on me this day), understandably so since I have been very inactive this day, I think it wouldn't be terrible for town if I did die. It will save me from potentially getting mislynched, and keep someone who is much more towny in the game. So I will let the Mafia make the decision. | ||
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anyone im off to sleep. posting on twitter #lynchsilentwarrior | ||
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obv maf | ||
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On July 18 2015 10:36 MoosyDoosy wrote: k we'll kill u then silentwarrior. Thanks for the information. <3 btw it's bad play to say you have "critical information" and not participate. So we're not terrible but your play was more abysmal than GhandiEAGLE's. Your role claim is terrible too and there's a huge thread in TL Mafia that says role claiming is very bad. Should have waited until Day was almost over if you had to reveal that information. lynching me then him is fine with me gnight | ||
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