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TJHuggins
Profile Joined July 2015
39 Posts
July 06 2015 02:02 GMT
#51
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TJHuggins
Profile Joined July 2015
39 Posts
July 11 2015 02:06 GMT
#141
On July 11 2015 07:29 Fidei86 wrote:
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On July 11 2015 07:02 Half the Sky wrote:
YAY confirmed town <3

If only posting first did somehow make you confirmed town. That would sure make this game a lot easier

So that everyone knows, the only players I know in the game are scott and NHM. I tunnelled scott pretty hard in the game we played together (Holy Guardians) but he was actually town. I null read NHM in HGand he was mafia, then town read him in Himalayas and he was town. I've also chatted a fair bit to HTS, but I don't know how she plays mafia.


Yo I have no clue wtf those acronyms mean can u put like Nydushermain (NHM) the first time you use an acronym so I can understand what you're talking about? Who is HTS?

On a game note, I think it's pretty good if we all say like what our mafia background 1) I don't know anyone except for nydus and 2) i always judge my reads on people against a background of their experience (e.g. easier to read someone new to mafia based on little things they do).

I have played video mafia on DailyMafia for almost two years and have never played forum mafia before. I am basically a god. I am in a clan called the elo angels because im so good and my elo is so high. My day job involves working with and for lawyers every day so i think about thinks pretty logically and might write formally at some points based on my mood. In video mafia I usually pick up on and push on (sometimes minor) logical inconsistencies and ive noticed ive been tunnelling a bit too hard lately so that may happen this game.

My only read so far is that Half the Sky is spamming.

[purple]Also it allowed if i just put every post I type in purple so taht you guys always know its me?[/purple]
TJHuggins
Profile Joined July 2015
39 Posts
July 11 2015 16:31 GMT
#156
I looked on the first page to figure out who is even in the game because I'm having a hard time keeping everyone straight. I see "silentwarrior" is living up to his name.
TJHuggins
Profile Joined July 2015
39 Posts
July 11 2015 16:49 GMT
#157
My initial reads so far is that i am town leaning on Fidei. I like the things he said in relation to spamming, and I think that him relating the perspective to a previous game where he was town feels like he's looking at the game from the perspective of a town. When he responded to HTS regarding talking about anti-spam being easy, he seems genuine. Or maybe it's just because I like his writing. No clue.

My initial scum read is Grokken. It's nothing all that strong but I'm getting a wierd feeling about the things he's posted. To me it feels like he is trying to find ways to participate and seem town by chiming in now and again but really has no clue what to write about.

On July 11 2015 09:36 Grokken wrote:
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On July 11 2015 09:32 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
My blood sense is telling me to lynch everyone who knows what theyre doing


We should listen to this guy, he seems to know what he is doing.


On July 11 2015 13:27 Grokken wrote:
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On July 11 2015 10:44 NydusHerMain wrote:
Hi, back home. You guys are fucking boring me.

##Vote: Fidei

I don't like the way this guy posts early


Can you elaborate on this? What in particular is it that you don't like?


I think that one sentence posts that appear to contribute to the game and don't really offer anything just kind of irk me the wrong way. I guess it's worth noting he did write that thing about Dota as well which was also one sentence but that's neither here nor there when it comes to the game I think. When I went back and read the post about him showing off his dota stats that actually reads to me a bit more towny now that I think about it, so not really sure.

just an initial read.
TJHuggins
Profile Joined July 2015
39 Posts
July 11 2015 16:52 GMT
#158
I also loved how Fidei says its weird the NHM refers to him as "this guy" when they were friendly before the game started.
TJHuggins
Profile Joined July 2015
39 Posts
July 11 2015 18:10 GMT
#167
I agree that it was grokken's town prodding question that got me suspicious of him in the first place.
TJHuggins
Profile Joined July 2015
39 Posts
July 12 2015 00:57 GMT
#191
I agree with most about what has been said about Moosy. I'm trying to read this game similar to how I would read someone in video mafia (whether or not that is going to work remains to be seen). One way people often get on my "radar" if you will is by dropping sort of key phrases or acting in a certain way after being called out. In my first few months of playing, sometimes this scenario would happen:

A particular player, who may be lurking, or just doesn't sound the same (voice tone, pattern, activeness, etc.) would get pinged out by another player who would say that they "feel different this game" or ask "why they're not playing the same as X game they played with them in." In some of these cases, the person would respond back by saying some variation of the phrase "I'm trying to switch up my play this game" or "I'm trying something new this game." I started to realize that when someone came back with this response most of the time they ended up being a mafia trying to cover up for there change in playstyle due to the change in alignment, or sometimes it was just an excuse to lurk e.g. "I'm going to try to sit back and listen and try to get town reads this game instead of trying to pressure the mafia to see how it works."

I got a similar feeling looking back at what Moosy said (the quote that many have already noted), though I'll admit I didn't catch it the first time. One thing that I did catch, which I thought was kind of odd, is the quote below, though I'm not quite sure what it means yet.

On July 12 2015 02:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On July 12 2015 01:49 TJHuggins wrote:
My initial reads so far is that i am town leaning on Fidei. I like the things he said in relation to spamming, and I think that him relating the perspective to a previous game where he was town feels like he's looking at the game from the perspective of a town. When he responded to HTS regarding talking about anti-spam being easy, he seems genuine. Or maybe it's just because I like his writing. No clue.

My initial scum read is Grokken. It's nothing all that strong but I'm getting a wierd feeling about the things he's posted. To me it feels like he is trying to find ways to participate and seem town by chiming in now and again but really has no clue what to write about.

On July 11 2015 09:36 Grokken wrote:
On July 11 2015 09:32 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
My blood sense is telling me to lynch everyone who knows what theyre doing


We should listen to this guy, he seems to know what he is doing.


On July 11 2015 13:27 Grokken wrote:
On July 11 2015 10:44 NydusHerMain wrote:
Hi, back home. You guys are fucking boring me.

##Vote: Fidei

I don't like the way this guy posts early


Can you elaborate on this? What in particular is it that you don't like?


I think that one sentence posts that appear to contribute to the game and don't really offer anything just kind of irk me the wrong way. I guess it's worth noting he did write that thing about Dota as well which was also one sentence but that's neither here nor there when it comes to the game I think. When I went back and read the post about him showing off his dota stats that actually reads to me a bit more towny now that I think about it, so not really sure.

just an initial read.

I don't agree with this but let's see what Ghandi says.


It's a pretty innocuous post on it's face, but what stood out for me is that he is deferring to Ghandi before making judgment. But Ghandi's role in the context of the quoted posts is so minor that I can't think what he could possibly add to the conversation that would in turn color your judgment on Grokken's alignment. In fact, I never even mentioned Ghandi in my post. If he disagrees, ok, but why is he saying he needs to wait and see what Ghandi says?

Not sure if I want to lynch him today, but he's on my radar. I still want to hear more.

On July 12 2015 08:56 Fidei86 wrote:
You said about ten posts ago that you were going to be town-hunting at first. Now you're saying that you're scum-hunting. Which is it??


I think you're reaching a bit here. This post seems so opposite to everything else you've written this game. What gives?
TJHuggins
Profile Joined July 2015
39 Posts
July 12 2015 14:16 GMT
#232
On July 12 2015 22:26 KelsierSC wrote:
##Vote: Wonnaplay


Kelsier, I'm wondering if you would care to explain what factors weighed in on your decision here to vote for Wonnaplay as opposed to Grokken when from your previous post it appears you considered them equally scummy for the same reason?
TJHuggins
Profile Joined July 2015
39 Posts
July 12 2015 14:18 GMT
#233
On July 12 2015 22:43 WonnaPlay wrote:
"Sheep me, I'm good at this game" or "I act as scum and see if anyone bites, then I attack them" - Onegu Card?

So basically Kelsier is trying to get newer players to attack him, because he is sowing nonsense. To see if other people just blatantly follow those new players, which means that those followers or "sheep" are probably mafia players looking to get an easy kill?

If this is what he's doing, then I think that his posts make more sense indeed, however I think it's provoking the wrong reactions in a newbie game.







I think it's more like: Act like a fool and get town read for it.
TJHuggins
Profile Joined July 2015
39 Posts
July 12 2015 14:33 GMT
#235
Right now I'm at the point where I feel comfortable enough to ##vote MoosyDoosy. (reasons here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488742-newbie-student-mafia-xii?page=10#191)

I woke up this morning to see more posts from MD that read scum to me. I didn't think you were even allowed to vote for yourself. To me I haven't seen any protown content coming out of any of his posts, and his recent ones seem blatantly anti-town. And what really stands with me is that these are posts from someone who claims to apparently have been unanimously townread by all players but one in some recent previous forum mafia game. See his post on July 11 2015 at 16:30, ("I was an earnest townie last Newbie Student Mafia game with a monster filter. :3 Besides ruXxar everyone pretty much knew I was a townie which is why I want to change things up here and make things interesting.")

I'm not buying it that this is a result of you switching up your play.
TJHuggins
Profile Joined July 2015
39 Posts
July 12 2015 14:33 GMT
#236
On July 12 2015 23:20 Fidei86 wrote:
TJH - slightly weird question here, but are you NHM's boyfriend? I only ask because he said he was going to ask his BF to play, and I was wondering if that was you.


Yes.
TJHuggins
Profile Joined July 2015
39 Posts
July 12 2015 14:40 GMT
#238
On July 12 2015 23:38 Fidei86 wrote:
Do you know whether NHM has any OOC reasons for not being in the thread over the last day or so?

Yes.
TJHuggins
Profile Joined July 2015
39 Posts
July 12 2015 15:02 GMT
#240
Yes, he does.
TJHuggins
Profile Joined July 2015
39 Posts
July 12 2015 18:43 GMT
#268
On July 13 2015 03:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On July 13 2015 02:43 Fidei86 wrote:
So I'm sitting here thinking "n00b just made a big case on Moosy, then immediately defended him and now wants to lynch elsewhere - classic scum tell!". But then I thought about it and realised that my approach has been exactly the same. I want Moosy to engage, since everything we have on him at the moment is tonal, and could be bad/lazy town. Bleh.

This is not a classic scum tell. It's pretty obvious I'm being a shitty townie so his analysis is pretty on point as usual. I really don't see how you guys think I'm Mafia. XD

Can you explain to me how I am supposed to differentiate "shitty townie" play from Mafia play? The way your posts are reading to me now it sounds like you are a mafia resigned to their fate. If that's not the case then what is your play here? Do you have anyone you think is mafia? Anyone that you think is town? Any reasons for those reads? Any reasoning for why you have been writing/acting like a 14 year old for the last 12 hours? I'm going to be seriously upset if you are lynched and flip town because all that I will be thinking is: "What the fuck?"
TJHuggins
Profile Joined July 2015
39 Posts
July 12 2015 18:46 GMT
#270
On July 13 2015 03:42 KelsierSC wrote:
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On July 13 2015 02:53 n00bKing wrote:
On July 12 2015 22:07 KelsierSC wrote:
Groken and Wp look like scum so far . Terrible list posts early in the game.

Looks like Fidei and WonnaPlay have both interpreted this post to mean that "list posts are terrible." I interpreted it to mean that you just think THEIR lists are terrible. Can you clarify on that? And if I'm right that you just mean THEIR lists are terrible, please expound on what you think makes the lists terrible.


their lists are just LR's of a very small thread with no interesting opinions.


Shit lists = mafia


What's LR?
TJHuggins
Profile Joined July 2015
39 Posts
July 12 2015 21:31 GMT
#289
Figured I would post where I am at before EOD (for obvious reasons). Here's a scum list for me right now in order:

1. MoosyDoosy
2. Sulfuras
3. Grokken

Scott, NHM, and silentwarrior are all in a 3rd category for me which includes players that haven't impressed me with their content and have not left any last impact on me. Might be mafia, might be town. I would rather wait until day 2 to deal with this group since it may give them more time to provide content for me to figure out their alignment. Personally, I'd rather kill someone whos acting scummy than someone whos just a crap shoot (actually if this were video mafia I would pressure them and force them to talk but I can't really do that here.)

If at EOD 2 I still have nothing on those three, I would advocate to shooting, cop checking, lynching them. I would caution against vig shooting or cop checking any of the lurkers this night because I don't think it will really help progress our scum leads much. A vig shot is better saved on a clearly scummy person (same logic as above) and cop check better on someone whos a bit more active.

TJHuggins
Profile Joined July 2015
39 Posts
July 12 2015 22:03 GMT
#309
Wait what... the vote count was changed after the day ended. This is some shitty modding.
TJHuggins
Profile Joined July 2015
39 Posts
July 12 2015 22:05 GMT
#311
I was refreshing the voting thread and never saw the change? Why was it even included in the first place if it wasn't allowed? That's silly.
TJHuggins
Profile Joined July 2015
39 Posts
July 12 2015 22:11 GMT
#319
Wow. Mod-error in town's favor. I'll take it.
TJHuggins
Profile Joined July 2015
39 Posts
July 12 2015 22:14 GMT
#323
I so strongly felt that MD is the most obvious mafia there could possible be... I was going to be so mad if Sulfuras flipped town. Now I'm not so sure since sulfuras was voting on MD. I need to reread Sulfuras posts to see why he was voting on MD.
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