TL Mafia LXXI: Gaiden
Forum Index > TL Mafia |
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 03 2015 06:34 Blazinghand wrote: ok, my trip is turning out to be a shitshow, so We start on July 5th | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 06 2015 06:13 Blazinghand wrote: yes, this game starts in like 45 minutes oh, i just figured i would have a role pm an hour out. was confused. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 06 2015 09:21 geript wrote: You better start caring because you're not going to lynch him because I don't get to play with him often and we're both town. So find a different lynch to push. Over-emphasized defense at this point in the game. In the event geript ever flips mafia, WoS is likely town cuz blatant attempted pocket/spew. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 07 2015 00:10 Palmar wrote: boxer is town agreed | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 07 2015 03:55 marvellosity wrote: do you think he might have reason to be reading you wrongly? I think no1 clicked my filter and read the 2nd post in it before the game even started. I don't mind your read, mostly cuz we don't like eachother and you give that read every game that I don't dodge out on cuz you're playing. People who sheeped it that I recall: damdred, kels, hts, hf kels and hts wrote more about I am mafia than I had typed the entire game. Seems pointless. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
I am not going to die today. You are wrong or mafia. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 07 2015 04:03 Half the Sky wrote: Do you think this makes either of us (KSC or myself) mafia? Do you find any of the above cited's scumreads on you reasonable? I am assuming you understand why you are being scumread. It's not for shits and giggles. People are scum reading me for not reading my filter. I think you're more likely scum cuz of it than KSC cuz KSC has done things to earn townie check marks. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 07 2015 04:06 Half the Sky wrote: So you don't have to post much, but providing simple reads with simple explanations doesn't mean we're (or at least I) am scumreading you for having a short filter. A short filter is not why I'm scumreading you. You had the 1 in 3 post which some took issue with. My prior argument where you can still be confident on a scumread doesn't require you have a large filter. Oats came into the thread and did a bunch of stupid shit. 3 people stupidly townread him for doing stupid shit quite quickly. 1 of them is probably mafia handing out an "easy read". As I said, more to come later on which 1 it is. It is pretty simple to follow if you read the thread. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 07 2015 04:10 Harkon wrote: No, it is not. He either plays and is towny or he dies. This is not a pure pressure vote. You shouldn't be so whilly-nilly about placing your vote on town in a majority lynch game. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
move on. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 07 2015 04:15 Harkon wrote: Why would you claim this early without even trying to get townread instead? Not buying it. It is majority lynch, halfway to a majority; no point in risking it. I am a low priority rb/nk at this point so bullets and abilities wasted on me is as beneficial to the town as a check. Plus pregnant wife close to giving birth and not caring about wanting to defend myself. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 07 2015 04:19 Vivax wrote: Somehow in every game your wife is always an argument, I think it's time she starts playing mafia. Believe it or not pregnancy takes 9 months. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 07 2015 04:22 Vivax wrote: Remember a vague graph of how most pregnanies go to shit. Which isn't the case for you, don't wanna scare you. In fact I'll gratulate you to your luck. Now can you play mafia or do you have to talk to her belly for the next 6 hours? I have to go to the dentist in 30 minutes; and I have been playing. Should I be doing other things? | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 07 2015 04:25 Clarity_nl wrote: There's just wasn't anything to talk about in regards to ritoky, he hasn't done anything. Marv asked for sheeples and I obliged. Your association logic is absurd. We're not even halfway into day 1... and he just claimed 1-shot vig, lol 1-shot cop, not vig; you didn't even bother to check the op about roles? | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 07 2015 04:33 Harkon wrote: So ritoky sees his wagon growing after basically not playing the game so far and his immediate response as town is to claim cop? He is rendering his role useless without even trying to convince anyone. This is so bad. He is probably mafia trying to buy himself time knowing that he will never have to prove himself. It is minds like this that have made it much easier to win as mafia on this website in recent times. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 07 2015 04:35 Harkon wrote: Why did you claim without trying anything else first? I posted for a bit, everyone thought I was more mafia. Damdred came in with a well known soul read on me, which people were going to sheep cuz it is historically accurate. He is wrong or mafia, so I nipped it in the bud and claimed. Simple as pie. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 07 2015 04:37 Harkon wrote: Ritoky, can you tell me with a straight face that people should have townread you for your play prior to the claim? Probably not. Maybe someone who is crazy like Alakaslam would pick up that all I cared about were reads and associations and see the cop claim coming, and maybe someone thinks I am slightly town for ignoring people, but otherwise I should be generally null to everyone except marv. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
No1 currently, maybe damdred for being wrong. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 07 2015 04:41 Harkon wrote: Then I don't get why instead of playing the game you just decide to claim like a moron. I typed a giant message in response to this, then erased it because I would have been modkilled. Short answer: mechanics, thinking majority lynch = instant majority lynch (cuz no game i have played that i can remember that is majority isn't also instant), and life interference. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 07 2015 04:46 KelsierSC wrote: how many votes did you have on you before you claimed? 6 or 7; with 3 or 4 active people in the thread not voted on me. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
And why his drive-by posting is being ignored, but mine wasn't. Thanx. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 07 2015 12:30 Holyflare wrote: This does not answer the point at all and is most concerning. I do not care if he builds a narrative on LS. I care that he earlier said LS is not scum after reading LS' filter. Nothing had happened since then. Trfel then returns and asks LS a question about Ritoky. Suddenly Trfel's read on LS changes to LS being mafia. Then he posts a case on LS and none of the things in the case on LS being mafia contain the questions about Ritoky. So why is his case a different version than his opinion in the thread? This is a good post. This post should be answered. Unfortunately for HF he would make this post as either alignment so he only gets half the credit he deserves for it. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 07 2015 14:01 Oatsmaster wrote: Who is hf talking to in that quote ritoky? It is in response to milo's giant post a couple to 5 pages back. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 07 2015 13:58 ritoky wrote: This is a good post. This post should be answered. Unfortunately for HF he would make this post as either alignment so he only gets half the credit he deserves for it. thanx. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 07 2015 15:01 Trfel wrote: In the event that I'm wrong about LightningStrike, answering this question would be the most harmful thing I could possibly do for town. And I guess I'm not convinced enough about LightningStrike to do that. If it means I get lynched for it, so be it. How would it be detrimental to town? You said you read his filter and he was town, then there was people being idiots around my claim, then you said he was mafia; but everything you said made him mafia was stuff that you had already previously read in his filter. Is this an incorrect representation? Correct me if it is wrong. Aka, answer the post. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 07 2015 15:14 Trfel wrote: I was scumreading LightningStrike. Then, I changed my read on him to town. Something about those questions changed the read back to scum, and the actual reasons that he was scum were the initial things I was scumreading him for. Okay nevermind, I didn't understand. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
people sheeping marv calling me mafia when marv hates me on a personal level, and misreads me every game makes me laugh. voted on hts cuz some1 else did, don't really care at this point; could be convinced to vote for milo cuz "not enough time so vote on claimed cop" is the stupidest thing ever with 4 hrs left. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 08 2015 03:30 Holyflare wrote: everyone seems to be dodging hts like a leper voted on her, i remember he giving a scum read on me early that contained more words than i had posted in the game up to that point. also she has adamantly refused to acknowledge on any level that i am the cop, which is not town. especially since i am a cop. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
if you're not voting on me or HtS I am going to badger you until you give a reason that makes me want to make that person a train instead of the two of us or you need to vote on one. let's begin. RUXXAR: Why are you not voting on me or HtS? | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 08 2015 03:39 ruXxar wrote: I don't see why those are the only 2 options. I already gave a reason why I don't want to vote for you. As for HTS: in my interaction with her in the thread I didn't get a vibe of scumminess, more like genuine curiosity. Haven't had time read her filter in detail but that's my initial feelings. Those are currently the 2 options because they lead in votes, feel free to make a compelling case and replace one of the two of us. Are those reasons for not lynching me or HtS worth potentially no lynching on day 1? They don't sound worth a no-lynch to me. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 08 2015 03:41 marvellosity wrote: good news: i'm kinda here bad news: i'm here because i abandoned my workout because i was feeling nauseous so i'm not up to much from this page i gather we're congregating on ritoky/hts. was milo abandoned for some reason? i really don't have the energy to read anything. I am willing to vote on milo for his "no time so vote on cop" bit, do you have a more compelling reason? | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 08 2015 03:45 Harkon wrote: We still have a few hours. There is no need to be dramatic right now. This is majority, and to lynch a cop there still need to be 5 more votes. To lynch anyone else there need to be at least 10. It is time to get ducks in a row. No-lynching is the worst outcome almost always for town. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
your being quiet into opportunism....are we sure we want to move off her? | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 08 2015 04:20 marvellosity wrote: milo/ritoky - any restrictions on when you can use your role? no | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
When a lynch goes through very easily on day 1 and there's little resistance it is usually on town or derp mafia. That's why I am more inclined to believe milo. The speed at which he garnered votes indicates he is likely town. Conversely there is so much resistance against lynching HtS, and I don't really understand why people have town reads on her or are averse to it. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
A no-lynch is worse than lynching a 1-shot cop imo. So please consolidate on me or HtS. I do not want a no-lynch on day 1, it is awful. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
It is very true actually. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 08 2015 04:36 LightningStrike wrote: Well 2 Cop claims is very unlikely esp because ritoky claims 1 shot cop Milo 2 shot cop it still doesn't make sense to have two of the same role except different limitations on them with can only be used once or twice respectively but even then I find it highly unlikely they both cops with limitations on how often they can use their power. This isn't m13. This is a 25 person game with 3 types of every role; you should get rid of this kind of thinking now, it will cause you problems. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 08 2015 04:49 Clarity_nl wrote: I'm just saying mafia can make this post, the post in itself does not make mafia. But I do think ti looks desperate. I agree town doesn't always does what it should but this whole "I'm town, lynching confirmed town is better than no-lynching" is very likely to come from scum. This post contains so much derp, I can't even. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
As I said, consolidate onto HtS or me. Vote movement please. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 08 2015 04:54 Holyflare wrote: anyone wanna do some crazy shenanigans onto people that nobody has mentioned for ages? :D Who we considering? | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 08 2015 04:55 scott31337 wrote: He'll be roleblocked/killed anyway - why would it matter two shot one shot? I don't see the reasoning here. He looks scummier then you. Because a two-shot ability does more potential good for town than a 1 shot ability, thus the mechanically correct play is to keep the 2-shot over the 1-shot. doesn't matter though, we're both cops. i am like 96% certain he is a cop. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
people who left no impression on me: BM, vivax, breshke, WoS people i would lynch cuz they were wrong: damdred if we're gonna shennanie onto some1 not mentioned, probably be one of these for me. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 08 2015 04:58 Harkon wrote: Even if both of you are town this is completely irrelevant because none of you will ever get a check off unless we get incredibly lucky. and lynching cops increases the likelihood of getting a check out of these claims, A+ logic. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 08 2015 05:03 boxerfred wrote: oh wait it is lol if there's a counter claim ritoky's fucked. ? are you even reading? | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 08 2015 05:04 geript wrote: I'm kinda tempted to leave them both alive and tell them to check one another. Why would you waste 67% of the checks to have 2 conf townies for a day before they both get shot? (assuming we don't both get rb'd or shot tonight) | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 08 2015 05:11 geript wrote: Clarity_nl Vivax Bill Murray Meapak_Ziphh Trfel ObiWanShinobi Damdred rsoultin XEliteBlueHunter69X I still think I'd rather lynch Damdred or Bill Murray. Damdred doesn't seem to be thinking anything like how he thinks as town and BM is a great fall back if we don't want to lynch into claims. Of the claims, I think Ritoky's the better lynch. I like this list a lot if you remove Obi from it. I actually think Obi is my #1 town. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 08 2015 05:38 Holyflare wrote: ok while we are afk voting mz can someone please actually fucking converse with me about rsoultin and not give shitty reads that just say "no", nothing even answered anything I asked for she reminded me a bit of bugs from last game where she was fighting beyond the point where it was actually useful and pushing for the sake of pushing rather than pushing to find scum. but it wasn't a strong enough impression to land her on a scum list for me. slight red lean is pretty much where she is. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 08 2015 06:08 Breshke wrote: Anyone wanna summarise the last 40 pages for me hf -> lynch hts some people -> sounds good a lot of people -> nah hf + marv -> lynch milo everyone -> okay milo -> 2-shot cop lot of people -> lynch ritoky lot of people -> rip there might actually be 2 cops everyone -> who to lynch meapak -> 1st post + ninja vote everyone -> o, he not getting subbed/modkilled now. spam votes | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 08 2015 13:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I have literally 0 interest in even discussing MZ anymore. I don't care. You can resolve it amongst yourselves. Clarity is mafia. Discuss. i can see this. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
cuz he seemed to mechanically think and explain twice why it was better to not lynch the cops then still kept voting and going on about lynching them. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 08 2015 14:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Honestly I was going to go for Clarity because the reasoning behind almost all of his votes was completely awful. I guess that works too. Show me where it happened and why it's scummy? On July 07 2015 04:57 Clarity_nl wrote: This is absurd. ritoky if you're town this is retarded and when you come back you need to put some effort in and give us some reads. I kinda don't want to lynch you but that's just cause I'm a pussy Since kp won't go down if we lynch scum is it the mechanical play to let him live at least 1 day so that if he's town, scum either kills him or they have to use a RB? On July 08 2015 00:25 Clarity_nl wrote: It's literally only the claim that makes me not lynch him today. I definitely think he's not 100% scum so the mechanical play for me is to let him live at least today, probably tomorrow too, then reevaluate if needed. That way if he is town he might show it, and if he is town then scum might have to deal with him anyway On July 08 2015 00:27 Clarity_nl wrote: I mean if he's town and mafia wanna roleblock him two nights in a row that's great for town. On July 08 2015 00:27 Clarity_nl wrote: EBWOP OP states that if roleblocked it gets refunded. On July 08 2015 01:19 Clarity_nl wrote: ritoky train doesn't feel very magical to me On July 08 2015 01:22 Clarity_nl wrote: ##Vote ritoky ....choo choo here's him explaining mechanics then going against said mechanics. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 08 2015 14:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Well marv told him to sheep him. Which is usually enough for almost anyone, so I don't know if that read flip is as damning as I first thought. On July 08 2015 06:21 Clarity_nl wrote: Consolodating on mz okay gotcha ##Vote Meapak_ziphh On July 08 2015 06:28 Clarity_nl wrote: I'm actually willing to switch back to ritoky if there's enough people around. independent of marv here. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
rsoul thinks so, why don't you? he mechanically explained why it was bad, then did went back on said mechanics to sheep marv, then after he didn't want to lynch MZ defaulted back to me contrary to what he already said. how is that not odd? | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 08 2015 15:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I rethought it and I think that it could be. I gave my reasons, your turn. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 09 2015 08:30 Damdred wrote: Jk can be offensive and defensive shrug, I really could care more but I won't fuck town over completely by leaving no reads Why did you choose to jail me? | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
Because there is no way scum would use me to deliver KP, I was a high priority person to be targeted by abilities last night. I am still working it out, but I think geript and I are pretty much confirmed town. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
ritoky claims rb'd milo claims rb'd geript claims track damdred -> ritoky damdred confirms -> ritoky damdred claims JK In the night there is 1 kp on palmar and a banish notification on marv. 1 kp missing. Damdred claiming a role and confirming he visited me means that geript is either confirmed tracker or mafia with damdred in some tinfoil world. Going with the simple solution for now and geript conf town unless tinfoil needed late in game. The missing kp could mean a couple things. 1) Damdred is JK and stopped mafia from killing ritoky 2) Damdred is scum RB, targeted me; KP used on marv or other protected target 3) Damdred is JK or scum RB; KP was carried by marv 4) Damdred is JK and stopped scum ritoky from delivering KP From these explanations, I know 4 is false but if you need a reason it is this: I am good enough as mafia to not allow my team to have me deliver the KP last night. #3 is also probably false because Marv has enough of an ego to believe he would be targeted by a JK or a banisher based on his play so he wouldn't risk putting kp on himself. Which to me says me and geript are confirmed. Does this make sense or have I not thought this out properly? | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 09 2015 13:05 geript wrote: Sorry Ritoky, but you're actually the perfect mafia player to deliver 1 KP. No town player with half a brain roleblocks a claimed cop without a magic read. Could not disagree with you more mechanically. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
This is why I win so much as mafia, I don't let plays like this happen lol. It is mechanically inferior to put a KP on a target of mass discussion and likely target of abilities. Particularly in games w/ potential trackers. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 09 2015 14:08 Oatsmaster wrote: Scum might have a vig. No, it's not in the role list. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
I am super tired, but as of right now I am leaning towards believing all the claims and lynching outside them. I am also SUPER wary of HF not being targeted N1...but if it was something like Palmar and Marv as the targets I suppose I can hold off on that paranoia 1 more day. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
Someone was bugging him about limitations on his shots and he responded: On July 08 2015 04:40 milo109 wrote: No restrictions I dont think I am afraid to explain it much more than that cuz of rules. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 09 2015 14:25 Clarity_nl wrote: So this is the only world that can be true in: Scum kp palmar + ritoky. damdred JK > ritoky Scum roleblock > milo That's the conclusion I got to too, it's the whole basis of my case. Milo does not recognize this is the only world that exists for town!milo other than scum having two roleblockers, which he himself says is not possible. How can you say both you and milo are cops and then expect scum to shoot palmar+marv and give one of you guys a check. They would only do this if they were able to roleblock both of you, which is only true if damdred is mafia roleblocker. You should absolutely not want to lynch outside of the claims. scum kp -> marv + palmar damdred jk -> rit scum rb -> milo also works and allowing a cop to get a check in a 25 man game isn't a horrible thing...i would consider letting a solitary check through if i were mafia especially considering the credibility of both cops. 23 people to investigate, probably 5 mafia ~20% success rate of check? Not a bad gamble, + screaming over them to potentially extend 1 phase? A lot more worthwhile risk imo than people saying I could have carried kp last night. hold on though let me re-read and reconsider your post see if it touches me differently. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 09 2015 14:32 Clarity_nl wrote: In your scenario, scum doesn't know damdred the town JK is gonna JK rit. right hence the whole paragraph i wrote. it is a 1-shot check with a ~20% success rate of finding mafia and even if it comes red they may think they can out-yell me and extend their player's life an extra phase. it isn't an asinine risk to take letting a 1-shot cop through and hoping he misses or sucks. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 09 2015 14:38 Breshke wrote: Rit why would scum let you get the check and not milo. I think most people here would think you could yell better than him. That's a good point actually.....hadn't thought about it much was moreso thinking about me being 1-shot vs him being 2-shot. Wow, did I get shot last night? | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 10 2015 05:17 milo109 wrote: Here we go again: Town Marvellosity geript ritoky Breshke Oatsmaster Damdred Mafia Scott31337 Holyflare boxerfred Clarity/MZ One of the many others. People I can't read because they play.. oddly rsoultin LightningStrike Why is harkon not town? | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 10 2015 05:21 milo109 wrote: I've had you scum since Day 1. I hate the way you're playing. Honestly, you seem easy to read as scum to me. Maybe I'm wrong and you're town and you appear more towny as a scum player. You've been trying to push the conspiracy worlds of me being Mafia even if Damdred is town. Obviously if Damdred flips framer then we lynch Ritoky. But that is like a .1% percent chance. It would be mildly good for town. Why is harkon not town? | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 10 2015 05:28 milo109 wrote: Ritoky, Because he uses this read too. And it's dumb. No, you're not understanding this. Harkon claimed veteran who had kp on him last night. So either he is mafia knowing the KP went on marv last night and is using the wifom to gain cred, or he is the veteran. He is on neither of your lists. So it makes 0 sense to me. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 10 2015 05:29 Holyflare wrote: mafia could have shot you and jat could be mafia fake claiming the hit which lynches town jk damdred and probably milo after that (who could be town, yet super unlikely) thus they never expected you to get saved and had to make up some bs less than 0% chance but probably like 5% Yeah I just looked at op and saw no save notification, so possible. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 10 2015 05:09 ritoky wrote: Random thought as I am catching up right now. Don't people usually ping out LS as mafia for basically doing nothing? Hasn't he done nothing since the end of d1? Also, does anyone know any of his reads at all, cuz I don't.... | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 10 2015 05:35 Harkon wrote: Not possible. If you have a problem with the notification ask the mod - I am sure he will tell you veterans get a notification after being hit. He is talking about the world where you're mafia knowing a save happened on marv or me and since no save notifications you made wifom play and claimed vet who got shot. Low % world that is unlikely, but possible. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 10 2015 05:42 Clarity_nl wrote: If damdred is town JK, milo is scum and scum roleblocker hit you as well. Can you explain this to me more thoroughly please. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 10 2015 05:50 ritoky wrote: Hey milo, can you make an accusation on one of your other scum reads instead? scott, BF, clarity, and MZ were all on your list. pick one and go. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 10 2015 05:56 Clarity_nl wrote: So a scenario in which damdred is JK, harkon is vet and milo is scum: 1 kp on marv 1 kp on harkon damdred JK > ritoky scum RB > ritoky milo claims he was roleblocked. Tah dah, a scenario where damdred is town and it all fits. Like I don't believe it's the case, but it's possible, just saying. My problem with this is that I think milo is cop for a very admittedly stupid reason, but it is the unshakable kinda stupid....so there's that... | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 10 2015 06:03 Damdred wrote: Hi guys, so I think we should move votes off me and onto Milo or Rsoultin, maybe lightning strike Paint me your likely scenario of night actions this past night. Also open to hearing cases on LS and rsoul. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 10 2015 06:03 LightningStrike wrote: I wont let you guys lynch me that easily. so you're here and reading and electing to contribute nothing. isn't that your mafia meta? | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 10 2015 06:10 LightningStrike wrote: Rolf I am the 2 Shot Gunsmith I already gave someone a gun I wont name them and if they are reading this: Don't claim that you have a gun. 15 votes on some1 else, no real lynch pressure, probably no way you're getting lynched today....just why... | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 10 2015 06:14 Damdred wrote: Smh anyway I can't fully explain last night night actions to an extent. I want you to try your damdest (punny) to explain as much of what you think likely happened. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 10 2015 06:13 milo109 wrote: Sorry. Lots to address. Who is BF? Am I blanking? Anyway. The case on Scott.. I only just started and I found this gem, He slight town reads everybody but Holyflare. Odd. The only person he calls scum is rsoultin, OWS and I. Millions of town leans can be indicative of mafia. He lobs a softball to MZ, and then says this later, Why? He offered Ziphh another day to play. Why did he want to switch back? Also... Why does no one call Scott on TMI? -_- I'm not, because I think it's a dumb argument. But you notice that they only used the TMI on me. And then his latest post is an attempted catch on me that is dumb. List post is atrocious, but he made atrocious list posts as town in the newbie game I was coaching so it isn't necessarily scum indicative. (here's the link http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486978-newbie-student-mafia-xi?user=scott31337 ) The rest is meh to me and seems like fairly arbitrary reasons to put someone on your mafia list.... Also BF = boxerfred | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 10 2015 06:22 milo109 wrote: I mean. I don't have much to work with with him. I also hate filter dives. Then why did he make your "scum" list with only 4 other people.....wat? If you didn't have much to work with, then why is he scum over 20 other people? | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 10 2015 09:46 Holyflare wrote: Much ded many afk Nobody even talked about rsoul even though ritoky asked and i presented a case? I just got back, gonna go read it; but she has done literal nothing this phase amidst a lot of stuff happening, so I don't need much more help to get there where she herself has said she has activity troubles as scum beyond day1. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
I know it is a drastic over-simplification but is that the jist of the case? | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 10 2015 11:20 Holyflare wrote: I mean. Her whole premise of every scum read seems so like it's clutching at straws. Her d1 scum read of ruxxar (queen of tone reads scum reading this guy after last game is baaaaaaaaad) is based on the phrasing of one post. Her scum read on me is for nothing that I even can comprehend because she keeps pushing useless stuff like it means something?? And That Is All Her Scum reads Lolololol She has a d2 scum read on ruxxar for tmi...or is that a carryover from d1? Cuz I just read through ruxxar's day 2 and he doesn't to seem to be tmi to me... | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 10 2015 10:53 milo109 wrote: What discussion? I agree that rsoultin needs to be considered. By the time we have the next lynch, we will have much more information though. There's more than 1 mafia, and if you're actually a cop you should be worried that this is your last day phase and trying to solve the game/give what you can before you're shot. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 10 2015 11:57 milo109 wrote: First of all, if I got shot that would be fantastic. Second of all, I have all the night phase to update my reads after Damdred's flip. Third of all, I don't know what else to give. My reads haven't changed over the last three hours. Oh and fourth, god knows if I'm even close to correct. rsoul, breshke, kelsier, waveofshadow, vivax, boxerfred, trfel here's a list of people who haven't done a whole lot today (compared to a lot of others). give reads on all of them, no null reads allowed, scum or mafia lean is the weakest you can give. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 08 2015 15:03 rsoultin wrote: look ruxx i attempted to get you to engage with me. you refused. you claim to be asking me questions that i not only already answered, but after i said as much you said you were trying to convince everyone ELSE which by definition means you didn't give a flying shit what i responded in the first place maybe this is some en masse hf channeling thing where all "townies" think tunneling and sniping at players is the same as questioning them/pressuring them, but if you want me to actually address your concerns (lol concerns ><) 1. actually phrase them in a way where it's not obvious you've already made up your mind 2. actually read my responses to the questions you've already asked and i've already answered 3. engage with me on your other reads cause you won't convince me i'm scum, and you're not posting in a way that would actually help determine my alignment; you're flat-out tunneling case and point? you literally have no other scumreads right now like i don't see how this is townplay, but obviously i'm biased (btw it's not thread derailment to call shit reasoning and pretend "questioning" shit. you already revealed your hand by saying you weren't trying to engage with me in the first place. also, kindly don't refer to your paraphrasing as "fact" that's just ridiculous) i'll try to get a reads list up tonight at least lol >< This post sticks out to me a lot in rsoul's filter, because it has absolutely no point and I don't understand the point of it. The first part is actually a legitimate concern: "Hey this guy is asking me leading questions, giving 0 fucks about my replies, and just pushing an agenda"; followed by complaining, more complaining, a pot calling a kettle black cuz I don't really know rsoul's reads, then she discredits her entire post by saying "could be wrong cuz bias" (....doesn't town rsoul have more conviction than that?) and then caps it off with an undelivered promise of reads. i just don't understand the post. it makes no legitimate attempt to place lynch pressure on ruxxar, doesn't really develop a read, doesn't definitively state anything, and then promises something that never happens... | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 10 2015 12:02 milo109 wrote: rsoul Sigh. Town. Hate myself Breshke Sigh. Town kelsier Sigh. Town waveofshadow mafialean vivax mafialean boxer Mafia trfel town could you give a sentence about why on each? or am i pushing for too much here babycakes? | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 08 2015 07:52 rsoultin wrote: do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction? go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims i've answered all your leading questions already i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information? lol >< | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 08 2015 05:18 Blazinghand wrote: Vote Count Milo109 (7): rsoultin, Scott31337, Holyflare, KelsierSC, Harkon, ruXxar, Half the Sky ritoky (7): Palmar, Bill Murray, Clarity_nl, Oatsmaster, marvellosity, geript, boxerfred Trfel (2): XEliteBlueHunter69X, Vivax Half the sky (2): milo109, ritoky Scott31337 (1): Breshke Clarity_nl (1): Damdred Not Voting (5): WaveofShadow, Meapak_Ziphh, Trfel, LightningStrike, ObiWanShinobi Currently, no one is set to be lynched. With 25 alive it takes 13 to lynch. Day ends at Tuesday, Jul 07 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in . Voting is Mandatory! Voting is done in the voting thread: (link) On July 08 2015 05:43 Blazinghand wrote: Vote Count Meapak_Ziphh (7): Holyflare, ObiWanShinobi, geript, marvellosity, ruXxar, Harkon, ritoky ritoky (6): Palmar, Bill Murray, Clarity_nl, Oatsmaster, boxerfred, trfel Milo109 (4): rsoultin, Scott3133, KelsierSC, Half the Sky Trfel (2): XEliteBlueHunter69X, Vivax Clarity_nl (2): Damdred, Meapak_Ziphh Scott31337 (1): Breshke Half the sky (1): milo109 Not Voting (2): WaveofShadow, LightningStrike Currently, no one is set to be lynched. With 25 alive it takes 13 to lynch. Day ends at Tuesday, Jul 07 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in . Voting is Mandatory! Voting is done in the voting thread: (link) On July 08 2015 06:31 Blazinghand wrote: Vote Count Meapak_Ziphh (16): Holyflare, ObiWanShinobi, marvellosity, ruXxar, Harkon, ritoky, scott31337, boxerfred, Vivax, Half the Sky, milo109, WaveofShadow, LightningStrike, rsoultin, Clarity_nl, breshke ritoky (4): Palmar, Bill Murray, Oatsmaster, trfel Clarity_nl (2): Damdred, Meapak_Ziphh Bill Murray (1): geript Milo109 (1): KelsierSC Trfel (1): XEliteBlueHunter69X Not Voting (0): Currently, Meapak_Ziphh is set to be lynched. With 25 alive it takes 13 to lynch. Day ends at Tuesday, Jul 07 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in . Voting is Mandatory! Voting is done in the voting thread: (link) On July 08 2015 07:01 Blazinghand wrote: Vote Count Bill Murray (17): geript, Holyflare, rsoultin, Clarity_nl, Damdred, Scot31337 Half the Sky, Ritoky, Breshke, LightningStrike, KelsierSC, Meapak_Ziphh, Harkon, marvellosity, ruXxar, boxerfred, ObiWanShinobi Meapak_Ziphh (3): Vivax, milo109, WaveofShadow ritoky (4): Palmar, Bill Murray, Oatsmaster, trfel Trfel (1): XEliteBlueHunter69X Not Voting (0): Currently, BM is set to be lynched. With 25 alive it takes 13 to lynch. Day ends at Tuesday, Jul 07 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in . Voting is Mandatory! Voting is done in the voting thread: (link) On July 10 2015 08:55 Blazinghand wrote: Vote Count Damdred (16): XEliteBlueHunter69X, scott31337, Harkon, Half the Sky, rsoultin, WaveofShadow, ruXxar, LightningStrike, geript, Boxerfred, Meapak_Ziphh, KelsierSC, ObiWanShinobi, trfel, marvellosity, clarity_nl Milo109 (2): Holyflare, Breshke Clarity_nl (1): Damdred Holyflare (1): Milo109 Not Voting (2): vivax, ritoky Currently, Damdred is set to be lynched. With 23 alive it takes 12 to lynch. Day ends at Friday, Jul 10 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in . Voting is Mandatory! Voting is done in the voting thread: (link) | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 10 2015 10:57 ritoky wrote: What was the goal of your play there Damdred? On the off chance you're town, what reaction or information were you hoping to gain from that claim? please answer this: On July 08 2015 00:39 Damdred wrote: You Trfel Wave I wanted to lynch LS earlier, but idk it could be a bad read based on a meta hes trying to break i'd rather give him the night so i can look into his actions a bit more. What happened to this? Why have you mentioned literal 0 of these people today if this is your scum list from the previous day? | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
- clarity and rsoul were slow onto MZ, but quick onto BM - oats, trfel, and EBH had planted votes - ruxxar and boxerfred are never near the front of any lynch i have to take a break for a bit, but i will bang my head into walls of text more later hopefully. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
be back after usa hopefully stomps on haiti | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
#shrekt #stupidshityoucansaywhenconfirmed | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
ritoky geript LS I would be there's exactly 1 mafia in this group: harkon marv HF rsoul Top town read since forever: OWS Shitty reason for thinking is really cop: milo Probably not mafia cuz meta: ruxxar scott People left (3 mafia prob in here): waveofshadow clarity vivax boxerfred MZ trfel KSC breshke oats hts XEBHX Most likely mafia from above list: trfel ksc | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 12 2015 02:11 Harkon wrote: Did you ever out your shitty reason for milo? I see no reason not to. On July 09 2015 14:25 ritoky wrote: This post is the reason why I really think milo is also a cop: Someone was bugging him about limitations on his shots and he responded: I am afraid to explain it much more than that cuz of rules. I still don't think I can explain it much more, but I can say this for context: I had already previously responded with "no" to the question a decent bit before milo posted this response to the same question so the lack of certainty if he is fake claiming is kinda ??????? | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 12 2015 02:24 rsoultin wrote: hey, rit...what's your meta read on scott? i went through his games earlier and couldn't find anything definitive one way or the other his kinda poopy list posts or stuff that looks like this and is kinda a bitch to read are pretty much identical to the way he was posting in the past newbie student game where i was a coach (he subbed into the game so it might not be in db) in which he was town. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 12 2015 02:22 Harkon wrote: But anyways. We will deal with him tomorrow - if there is a vig shoot MZ instead. Why do you think MZ could be town btw, ritoky? He could be town cuz he insulted people after basically not being here, read the thread upon re-entry, wanted a lynch that was not a primary wagon (could be tmi), and hasn't fucked off entirely. I think I have played 1 game with MZ when he was mafia and he legit just fucked off to dodge out on conversations he didn't wanna be a part of. He also seemed really obsessed with KSC, which probably means they aren't together....and I think KSC is kinda pretty mafia. If he is mafia, it is cuz of shit like this: On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had. On July 08 2015 09:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I think rsoultin is probably town and I also think the RS/HF dispute is green on green. idk about LS, not really on my radar but probably worth a read through when I finish. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
there's shitty good and shitty bad and then there's crusted shit that you can't wash off. this read is probably the 3rd. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
| ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 23 2015 11:31 Alakaslam wrote: I'm an example of this as well. I knowingly treat women differently. I try to accommodate the likely slight difference in preferences from me, though I am aware that it may be counter to what is actually preferable. This is unconscious in the moment, even though I am aware it happens. Slam also treats me differently. He caresses my cheek, and holds me tight through the night in his tender embrace. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
letras de chupazi | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On July 23 2015 11:49 Alakaslam wrote: Not exactly I just am not that close to anyone at all. as for the letters of chupazi, it's just a take on chutzpah and some kid saying "Gehazi" while I was thinking about it, BH reminded me of this with his recent use of the real word. I use it, and hijole, as enigma words. Enigma words are fun, if done right. Chupazi has been overdone for a while but that's part of the fun itself, creating paradox which is also fun. as for sexual and relational stuff, I have been broken-hearted too quickly too often. I am not easy with such sayings anymore. Overuse is an intrinsically paradoxical concept. If looking to the left is cool, all one has to do is keep turning to the left and they will reach as much coolness as turns they perform. It is quite simple. And I met someone in the hospital the other day who had cruel parents who named him gustavi instead of gustavo. I now know him only as chupazi, he likes how it sounds but knows not of its nature. It is a complex relationship. He looks without for meaning to the name, when he should look within. | ||
| ||