TL Mafia LXXI: Gaiden

On July 07 2015 12:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Elaborate?

On July 07 2015 12:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
And I'm asking you to elaborate on why LS is scummy and how that's outweighed by Trfel being scummy.
You can't have both.

On July 07 2015 12:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Except the point is that you're capitalizing on a fight between two players, which is scummy.

I don't even understand your point on me asking someone to elaborate one time when I was scum.

On July 07 2015 12:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


1) This still reads like an excuse not to pick a side, and it's still scummy.
2) Okay I guess.

Who else is mafia?

On July 08 2015 13:15 Oatsmaster wrote:

So whats the difference between wanderer and scum carrying kp, or a scum doing other stuff?

Also we might not even have a tracker?

On July 08 2015 18:30 marvellosity wrote:

I'm terribly glad you showed all that care about it at the time then.

oh.

awks.

On July 08 2015 23:23 Breshke wrote:
so EBH all mafia should just lurk D1 and you will never lynch them because you wont get any information. Sounds like a good plan.

talk about something else not how shit a lynch was you weren't around to do anything about

On July 08 2015 23:37 Breshke wrote:


Cool. Why's that?

On July 06 2015 08:48 Breshke wrote:


I don't like this. I know you extensively looked into a meta read on me but it feels like that was a while back and that you wouldn't be this sure without looking at some of my more recent games to see if anything has changed.

It could also be because the last time you hard townread me you were scum and i was so easily pocketed haha

On July 09 2015 00:01 Breshke wrote:


What new information? You said i was an inconclusive scumlean so there must have been something you didn't like?

Why do i need to be frustrated if i think rsoultin being frustrated makes her town? That isn't how that read works I am not in the same situation as rsoultin nor are we the same person.

Also your main reason for wanting to lynch me being that I havn't done shit is fairly ironic since you have done even less and you also were jsut berating people for lynching someone for lurking which is the same as not doing anything.

If you didn't like that post why not bring it up at the time? No you obviously just went into my filter and tried to find something you could paint as scummy because you havn't actually tried to make a read on me as of yet and are jsut making this stuff up now.

I didn't like geripts read because im not a strong player i don't contribute much so when he read me as like 99 percent town that early it could have been because of only one thing and that is meta. Like i said in the post he had a very good grasp of my meta but very likely had not checked my current games to see if anything had changed. Felt hasty like he was going for a pocket because he has pocketed me before.

On July 09 2015 05:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

I really don't give a shit about activity, I give a shit about what they've said. Ritoky has basically fucked off all game using irl excuses, he claimed to avoid a lynch. I'm really not surprised he hasn't said anything since then.

Milo started a halfassed push on me after the day post and that's really it. Just being active doesn't give you an automatic green card. If shit was that simple then we'd just start lynching people based on post count. I don't believe milo's claim and I don't think anything he's said townie.

On July 09 2015 06:08 Clarity_nl wrote:


That's my towncircle pretty much

On July 09 2015 06:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Trying to meta me is a waste of time.

On July 09 2015 06:53 ruXxar wrote:
@:XEliteBlueHunter69X

Earlier you said this:



Can you give a re-evaluation on this, do you still hold this stance?

On July 09 2015 06:53 marvellosity wrote:
don't like anyone scumreading kels really :p

On July 10 2015 23:44 Half the Sky wrote:
My null/need to re-evaluate list is oats, ruXxar (I'm seeing both town and scum tells), EBH (I cannot wrap my arms around him), vivax and Scott.

Of those people I have town on I could be wrong on Boxerfred (he's a lean but still) and Ras (as stated).

I know some have their doubts on KSC and Breske I think both are town.

So two in the Damdred/milo/rit, and absent the claims all had reason to question their gameplay.

MZ and HF would be 4 for me and 5th scum is someone in my re evaluate list.

On July 12 2015 23:47 Holyflare wrote:


I've been here for like 20 minutes dude and hadn't posted a single thing the entire last night. That's a pretty fake post.

On July 13 2015 10:09 Holyflare wrote:


You know damdred fears palmar right?

On July 14 2015 07:04 Harkon wrote:

Idk either but I want to lynch EBH with fire for the stuff he said about milo. It's better if I take a long break before I post more though.

On July 14 2015 07:12 Harkon wrote:
No matter how I look at it this setup seems really really questionable balancewise with 2 roleblockers. Maybe we are lucky and there is still a good role out there.

On July 14 2015 07:41 Half the Sky wrote:
If we shoot outside of HF/Rasputin, then shoot into EBH or Scott, preferably Scott but I wouldn't cry over an EBH vig shot.

On July 14 2015 08:16 Holyflare wrote:
Yo yo yo i was correct AND trying to let him shit town rainbows and you're saying i might be mafia va :p

On July 15 2015 01:49 Holyflare wrote:


If you aren't mafia then you gotta point where people's town reads are wrong.

On July 15 2015 02:03 Clarity_nl wrote:


So you're saying people are directing the lynch away from scott because he is scum, this means some of the people who mentioned you as an alternative are scum, who are they?

On July 15 2015 02:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Okay, I guess I'll just spitevote EBH until he either explains his scumread or dies.
I can do either.

On July 15 2015 02:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


The game is really big and I usually find it easier to sort scum through the people attacking me in a game of this size, since I know what I said pretty well.

I don't understand why it's so hard for you to explain it but whatever I guess.

On July 16 2015 04:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


I already knew what you were talking about, I just didn't feel like answering you.

On July 16 2015 05:36 Half the Sky wrote:


I have a town read on Breshke, in fact, I have had most of the game. You said you don't like Breshke you don't think he's trying to solve the game. Where are you getting that from?

I read his filter and from his filter he's narrowing down people and providing reads. Particularly the second half. Is he effective at it? That's another question.

If you are who I think you are, why aren't you taking his meta into account? Because he acts a certain way as scum and not so much as town in his reads, particularly earlier in the game.

On July 16 2015 06:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Then modkill yourself or something if you're not going to waste time playing the game.
Simple.

On July 16 2015 13:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


I am disinterested in pretty much everything/anything you say to me.

On July 16 2015 14:38 rsoultin wrote:


nope

On July 16 2015 14:44 rsoultin wrote:


nope as in anyone can read the op, go look vt has investigator in the role, and make that post

it's a ridiculous thing to townread someone for beyond maaaaaybe the very start of the game and an even more ridiculous thing to still be townreading someone for as your main reason

i didn't realize that was what you were referring to -_- and i know i've already commented on this and frankly this "oh i thought that too!" crap always makes me roll my eyes

On July 16 2015 14:49 rsoultin wrote:


^^ that's 100% it

has nothing to do with anyone with a smattering of intelligence being able to read the op and construct a post like that, or the fact that seriously claiming vt is retarded anyway as a town player. nope ^^

On July 17 2015 05:54 Holyflare wrote:



what changed here btw? why did obi read just drop completely?

On July 17 2015 08:16 rsoultin wrote:


the very definition of a non-reason

On July 17 2015 23:00 Half the Sky wrote:
VA is probably one of them for wanting to park his vote on Ras. Breshke I highly doubt is Mafia.

On July 17 2015 23:25 Half the Sky wrote:


But are you looking into the why? Offhand I believe he had a the on HF and that would fall in line with not wanting to autolynch HF or vote him and find another lynch instead. He's has been scumreadinv ruXxar for awhile. And I know he is not a player that has a lot of thread pull.

On July 18 2015 00:56 Clarity_nl wrote:


I don't think this is true if town is heading in the right direction.

On July 18 2015 04:17 rsoultin wrote:


why won't anyone talk about va?! like seriously, if what i'm saying is that stupid, tell me why

On July 18 2015 06:41 Clarity_nl wrote:


Being right doesn't mean jack shit if you can't convince others.

Bitching and moaning doesn't do shit either.

On July 18 2015 06:47 Clarity_nl wrote:


Because not being able to convince anyone is EVERYONE ELSES fault and not yours. Maybe if you act more antagonistic you'll make sure no one will listen to you just like HF, and you guys can tell eachother it's alright post-game. Assuming you're town, of course. But most of my townreads insist on doing nothing to the point that I have to reconsider and waste time on them.

On July 19 2015 05:34 ruXxar wrote:


Please elaborate.

On July 19 2015 08:18 Clarity_nl wrote:


Not a single person was scumreading vivax and LS was confirmed town. You can't wifom the night kills to call ruxxar mafia.

You can call ruxxar mafia for other things, though.

On July 21 2015 02:52 rsoultin wrote:


yeeeeah...do you disagree with anything on my reads list?

On July 23 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote:


lol hardly

hf and i are hard to lynch because we make a lot of noise and usually make at least some sense. it is really that simple

On July 23 2015 10:11 rsoultin wrote:
i just got mislynched last week, va

and i've been mislynched once here...and would have been lynched in my first scum game if i hadn't conceded

maybe there is a subconscious thing where people don't lynch people they like as frequently as others, and i will admit i know a lot of the players in these games more than passingly and i've made those mistakes myself, where i'm more likely to townread people i have some sort of attachment to (see: ls) however...if you're implying that the only reason i don't get lynched (as either alignment) is i'm female? that's kind of blah, va

On July 23 2015 10:33 Blazinghand wrote:


FWIW even if your theory of people being unwilling to lynch women were true, the problem would almost certainly lie with the men who make up the majority of mafia players and make that decision, not with the women who play. Again, not saying anything about the reasonableness of your theory, just pointing out that if your theory is true it's a statement about the behavior of men.