EPTTL Mafia LXXI: Gaiden
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On June 26 2015 06:46 Blazinghand wrote: If this game is slated to start on Independence Day weekend, I'll delay the start until Monday the 6th. July the 4th is Independence Day in USA. We celebrate declaring independence from the British and I will be far too drunk for game launch. And yes, I will be so drunk that I'll be drunk on the 3rd and the 5th as well. To be honest you guys had to fight a war to stop being a colony. The more clever way of declaring independence is to wait patiently until the Nazis capture your colonial overlords and then go "nananana we're free now and you can't do anything about it cause you are infested with the Nazis" | ||
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On June 26 2015 20:50 marvellosity wrote: Having to declare independence? Does not compute. Not everyone has always been free and never been conquered like the glorious | ||
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I'm now looking into if it's a conspiracy to make me actually read the games I play. | ||
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Well not super, but half good. | ||
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Oats probably town ruXXAREAr probably town clarity could be mafia but no strong feelings some other guy... milano09? said something towny. | ||
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On July 06 2015 19:59 marvellosity wrote: thank goodness i await your later hand-wringing with anticipation Oh don't worry I'll waffle later. | ||
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Now that we're ganging up on you, how do you feel clarity? | ||
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On July 06 2015 20:35 Clarity_nl wrote: Not really bothered. I thought you said you were undecided on me, what changed your mind? opportunism | ||
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On July 06 2015 21:45 ruXxar wrote: K so here's a mini list for you all: Scum: Trfel Clarity. Town: Damdred, Kelsier, Glorious leader, you are clearly best player so you get my vote today. | ||
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On July 06 2015 12:35 geript wrote: lynch the fuck out of oats. he's definitely not town. If you think this... On July 07 2015 00:38 geript wrote: Awe.... That's cute. You still believe in scumslips. This is what you're second or third game. Don't worry. You'll grow up at some point. This makes little sense. The reason being that if he is indeed mafia, he doesn't have to believe in scumslips to use them against you. You worrying about whether or not he believes in scumslips only makes sense if you think he's town, because if he's mafia he's clearly just making shit up to throw on you. | ||
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On July 07 2015 00:59 Oatsmaster wrote: clarity and rux thought I was. LOL Thanks Palmar for making a better case than I ever could I don't necessarily think being inconsistent/bad makes geript scum. It wasn't really a case just pointing it out. | ||
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Morning btw. | ||
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On July 07 2015 18:38 marvellosity wrote: hey Plam. I'm either 28 or 38 pages behind. hurray! That's ok, I'm like 93 pages behind. I'm not even pretending to be trying to read everything. | ||
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btw I'm retroactively adding a disclaimer: I'm being super candid with all my reads this game and trying not to care too much about being wrong. So don't think I have some magical reads on the people I'm throwing out. I'm trying to force myself to be more okay with being wrong. (notice how being wrong one game after a very successful streak of games caused me to just drop off the face of mafia for like 2 months). I care way too much about being wrong. | ||
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I like milo I sortof like breshke I do not like scott | ||
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On July 07 2015 12:42 Breshke wrote: I also think scott is probably mafia. His reads list was lackluster and jsut seems to be some surface level stuff without actually trying to work anything out. The only interesting thing is this But it feels like he is reaching and i don't really get why the AFK's get a mention halfway through. Here it is. Initially I read this post because Breshke was throwing around weird "general" type accusations like: "His reads list was lackluster" "some surface level stuff without actually trying to work anything out" "But it feels like he is reaching" Like this is why I'm only half liking breshke even though I sorta like his case. This is the type of accusations people make when they don't know what they should be saying. But it's both conceivable that Breshke made this shit up as mafia, and that he simply doesn't quite know how to present his findings as town. As almost an afterthought I read scott's post that Breshke highlighted and it's really a terrible post. The biggest thing I'm worried about is that it seems rather unlikely that scott would try to call out the entire mafia team like that if he is mafia. So... as I write this I'm officially waffling. idk what to think about either of them. | ||
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On July 07 2015 20:14 marvellosity wrote: Wave isn't a bad lynch. I can't point to a single post in his filter that i don't think he could easily make as mafia. anyone agree/disagree? Didn't know wave was playing but he was really obvious mafia last time I played with him, I'll actually read some. | ||
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It's not interesting, people do this shit every fucking game and no one should give a fuck. The fact he tried to appear interested in something so completely and obviously worthless (nevermind that HF is the worst "dick around with claims" offender on TL) is actually kinda scummy and the reason I threw my vote on him yesterday. Like I think it's sort of mafia like but I don't know if I can convince people that calling something interesting that isn't interesting is a solid case for someone being mafia. | ||
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On July 06 2015 12:46 ruXxar wrote: The way that he hard defended holy fire and then used "but a mafia wouldn't do this" to excuse his actions. I think that sounds pre-planned. I got a scum vibe off that. This guy is town hero btw, I think I already said so. Found this looking for the clarity/WoS thing. But to be fair, WoS did try to somewhat defend Clarity. Although I don't know if that's exactly what marv meant with his thing. | ||
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On July 07 2015 20:29 milo109 wrote: That is odd. Someone town reading you is not a reason to do the same. Mafia do have to town read town. That's super situational though. If someone townreads you for the right reasons it makes you feel super warm and fuzzy. | ||
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On July 07 2015 20:35 marvellosity wrote: My point is this. So Clarity voted Wave at some stage. Wave originally said "clarity is town, tryhard as fuck" later when asked to elaborate on the read by HF, he said That's all that Wave says on Clarity. Clarity goes on to unvote Wave because "he talked a little about his townread on me" so he doens't like the lynch? How on earth is that Wave talking about the townread at all? ... So, I'm just jumping back and forth so my timeline may be off, and tbh I'm mostly doing this to force you to double check yourself, but I think he's talking about this: On July 06 2015 12:40 WaveofShadow wrote: What has been said about clarity? On July 06 2015 12:46 ruXxar wrote: The way that he hard defended holy fire and then used "but a mafia wouldn't do this" to excuse his actions. I think that sounds pre-planned. I got a scum vibe off that. On July 06 2015 12:50 WaveofShadow wrote: 'Pre planned' is dumb Nobody actually does that On July 06 2015 12:55 ruXxar wrote: It's kinda like avoiding the topic though. If someone asks you why you said something and your response is "I wouldn't say that as mafia", then that seems more like a last line of defense rather than explaining why you actually said something. On July 06 2015 12:59 WaveofShadow wrote: There's a difference between saying 'I wouldn't do this as mafia' and 'mafia wouldn't do this' in general. One is self meta and super shit. One is actually attempting to think. reading his post I actually don't think I know which that is On July 06 2015 13:03 ruXxar wrote: Do you find it strange that he's scum reading you for town reading him? | ||
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I'm literally giving him a townread for failing  | ||
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Why do you think boxerfred is mafia Oats? | ||
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I'm doing a face and wondering if I should call oats mafia. I'm not sure But this feels awful. | ||
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On July 07 2015 21:14 Oatsmaster wrote: Palmar, what exactly made you like my early day 1 posts? Can't even remember. But can probably find it if I go back and look. | ||
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On July 07 2015 21:15 Oatsmaster wrote: not you too. the madness is infectious. But lets discuss. Do you think my questions are "thread derailing" and "irrelevant"? What thread was there to derail even? I don't even care about that part. I have no idea what you asked him. | ||
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On July 07 2015 21:13 Oatsmaster wrote: If you make a scumlist, I am gonna assume that you think they are all on the same team. If so, I would like to know the connecting pieces. Especially for the 2 pairs you chose. Well if you think that hf and trfel are mafia together I would like to know why. same goes for clarity and wave considering they have significant interactions with each other. Actually this is complete bullshit but I'm not sure you're good enough to know that even if you happen to be town. Asking for connecting pieces between two people he has individually identified as mafia or scummy is flat out ridiculous. The connecting pieces may, depending on the quality of play by mafia, not even exist. Or he may also simply be wrong on one person from a pair or something. Unless there's backstory to this, this is awful. Like I think clarity and you may be mafia. I actually think WoS may be too, and maybe this scott guy. Do you need me to write an essay on how these are interconnected? | ||
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He isn't, I'm interrogating Oats. Pay attention please if you're gonna butt in. | ||
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Your choice of calling his read opportunistic. First of all his read can only be opportunistic if he is mafia. Town doesn't do opportunistic because by definition they will only jump things they actually believe in. Only mafia can have a cause without reason, because reason leads town to cause. However, if your own perception is that the read is opportunistic, you must have believed he had an opportunity. Something that he could actually call out. I assume this opportunity that you think he had is you asking him these questions, and thus the opportunistic read is to call you mafia for asking them. The problem I have with that is, it embeds another layer of why he should be mafia from your point of view. Not only does he randomly call you mafia for no good reason, he also flat out refuses talking about things that in your judgement are relevant to the thread. If all of this is true it's astonishing that anyone could be higher priority for lynching from your point of view than him, which is why it's strange that you want to lynch geript anyway. I haven't read the case on geript you have, but man this one looks like it should be a solid case. | ||
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On July 07 2015 21:23 Oatsmaster wrote: No, however the 4 people he picked can easily be split into 2 pairs because of their interactions and I was wondering if boxer had any thoughts on the connections between them, because the reasons he is calling them mafia involve them interacting with the other pair on the list. Does this make sense too? No, show me an example. To me associative reads are dumb and useless. | ||
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There's a good lynch. | ||
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On July 07 2015 22:49 marvellosity wrote: tbh i still think ritoky is mafia. could lynch BM but it feels like it would be a disaster if he flipped town. Why disaster? If we lynch a shitty useless town BM I would shrug and move on. Where is the disaster? | ||
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EBH is top town | ||
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He literally accused someone of being a member of a knitting circle. | ||
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On July 08 2015 01:25 Holyflare wrote: the last 5 posts of page 2 of his filter and all page 3 of his filter Don't care, this is now a "lynch cop claims on day 1" policy lynch. | ||
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MZ on the other hand deserves to die as a punishment for me not noticing he is in the game. But then again so did BM | ||
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I need to see if my NKs go through. | ||
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On July 09 2015 06:01 Harkon wrote: So Palmar, will you start playing at some point? I have been playing! | ||
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