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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 10 2015 03:51 GMT
#4521
/out before can be drawn into more fights
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 10 2015 04:00 GMT
#4522
On July 09 2015 02:18 ruXxar wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 08 2015 23:08 rsoultin wrote:
okay ruxxar. i've explained it all, but not concisely and not politely because i'm not polite

but i'll do it solely to have it in one place and to say this is the last time i am going to discuss my trfel toneread or my interactions/read on hf, whether you keep ignoring that and tunneling with the same points or not

reasons i'm tonereading truffle town: lightness with me (i catch him as mafia early, see student v where i opened with pressure on truffle for his weird read on ls, and greymist's game), joking that matches his dry humor, grumbling at me for saying i thought he was town (look at it this way: as scum he should be happy that he gets an rsoul townread and finally broke my streak...as town it makes a lot more sense to be irritated that i'm still getting a read off him off very few posts), and yes, not wanting to give an opinion on something he hasn't looked at is actually towny cause truffle holds himself to ridiculously high standards and spends an inordinate amount of time combing through posts before coming to a decision <- all of these things are very personal that i realize other people don't know about him and mean more to me than others, so i didn't go into it, just as i didn't go into it with my early toneread on damdy in himalayas

the first exchange with hf: you're misrepresenting/misreading it. when hf first said he didn't need my opinion i let it go. i was actually discussing things with bresh and truffle when hf said "see, this post means his question to you wasn't trying to determine your alignment"...to which i responded that i didn't think that was the purpose of the question anyway and made a joke about hf forgetting how stubborn i was...he then basically told me to shut up and go into a corner and color, so yeah, i got pissed at him. i actually broke it off BEFORE the mod ever intervened, which frankly was probably for the post hf made right before the mod post...because that was ad hominem to a tee, basically saying no one gives a shit what i say because of my tonereads

subsequently: i came back to the thread scumreading hf because i'd had time to cool down and where he said he was questioning truffle, he actually was saying, and yes i'm paraphrasing "you're scum cause you have mafiaitis. nothing you can say or do will change my mind. you may as well give up". plus the way he just threw shit at me when i wasn't doing anything. usually we only shitfight when he's scum, and i JUST came off a game where he and bugs did that to deliberately put me on tilt cause i'm fiery -_- i kept trying to get people to see what i was seeing and he kept on trying to say i was defending truffle and everyone else was taking that up, and it was supremely frustrating that people kept not understanding what i was trying to say...that hf never intended to get a read off truffle in the first place

that continued with ignoring the fact that truffle was quizzing ls between the time of his townread and scumread on ls and had said he was writing something on him, instead just going hey! look! nothing has happened between these reads! me saying he's not reading was his clue to go back and read. hts did it. she saw it. hf should have. he preferred to fight me instead

the only reason i left off hf was his point on truffle's case all coming from before he dropped the townread was actually good. i even tried to explain what my issue with him was more concisely, which works better when i'm not angry. it's still weird to me that he thinks telling someone they're scum and he won't ever change his mind is pressure, but i was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for the moment since yeah, even if he's scum not gonna lynch him d1 like ever >< was more productive to discuss reads

but here i come back to the thread and he's back to jumping on me for nitnoidisms

as for you, you're just parroting him like you two are butt buddies, and it feels a lot like being double-teamed...deja vu bugs and hf...plus i KNOW that you've seen i do this toneread thing and am willing to fight for it regardless if the so-called "evidence" when it comes to an actual lynch; see: GB, so why you find it so weird i'm doing it again this game i can't fathom

most of this i've already said

now i will ignore you unless you talk about something else or are actually willing to talk reads instead of whining about me being pissed at your misrepresentation and inattentiveness

was that polite enough?




also, yeah...i didn't get through the thread @.@ i'd just post a reads list, but it would only be for the sake of posting it cause it's outdated

i really don't like hf still, or ruxx (though this could be OMGUS i'm willing to admit), and damdy felt off to me, too, but i want to read the section of the day i missed that had people scumreading him before i come to a judgment on that

beyond that i think bresh/truffle/marv/geript are top townies for me...would add palmar to that but lol my track record with palmar >< someone else can read him


I appreciate the change in tone here. I can work with you like this.

Now, I don't really feel like you're addressing the main point here.
The essence of all my posting is simply this: why did you feel the necessity to defend/answer for trfel? HF was not addressing you, so you shouldn't have felt any need to interject.

I can see these reasonable motives:

1 you are town, you and trfel are such close friends that you feel like you need to defend him since you think your read is correct and everyone else is wrong.(I don't see you defending other people being attacked)
2 you are mafia defending town trfel because you are certain of his alignment and you know he's an easy target.
If he flips you know you will look good for defending him.
3 you are mafia defending mafia trfel because he's your partner.

Right now I'm leaning toward options 2 and 3, because the composite of your play seems scummy to me.

That said, there's other people in the game, and I need to spend my time evaluating them as well.


^ his response, btw, and clear evidence that he DID NOT read the very post he replied to and keeps asking the same questions

not only was it explained in the post, but it also is very clear in my filter, which he claims to have read given his horrendous paraphrase

yet always the same question(s)

tell me hf, if you're really town here, why ruxxar would have an issue with me defending a TOWNREAD on TONE after GB and Damdred last game, anyway...much less when my point wasn't even that truffle was scum, but rather that your push was scummy?

he's making shit up if he's saying i'm scum for something i did as town

if you're really town, can't you see how far up your ass he's crawled with this push that he can't possibly even believe?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 10 2015 04:02 GMT
#4523
and yeah...i'm concentrating on people's interactions with me

tonereader and all that jazz

so i say again, if you don't like it...bite me ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 10 2015 04:06 GMT
#4524
On July 10 2015 12:50 milo109 wrote:
Based on that I have a new town list.
Confirmed:xP
Oats
Trfel
EBH
Ritoky
Scumdred
geript
LS
Harkon. Sigh.
Marvel
Ruxxar

My lynch order:
HF
Boxer
Clarity
Scott
Vivax
WoS
MZ
HtS
OWS
Kelsier
Breshke
Whoever I forgot


Scumdred..... such WIFOM But I busted out laughing so that was appreciated.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 10 2015 04:08 GMT
#4525
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THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 10 2015 04:09 GMT
#4526
yeah i'd ask people to actually respond to demonstrate they read

maybe even write a quiz for reading comprehension, since so many of you seem to need it ><

but honestly that would just be depressing and i'm just going to assume that y'all will continue to ignore my posts except the select few who actually give a shit what i say

those people can feel free to ask me things and i'll probably even answer before the weekend. those people know who they are -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 10 2015 04:10 GMT
#4527
On July 10 2015 13:02 rsoultin wrote:
and yeah...i'm concentrating on people's interactions with me

tonereader and all that jazz

so i say again, if you don't like it...bite me ^^


What is your scum team at the moment?
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 10 2015 04:10 GMT
#4528
also lol@milo forgetting my existence while i'm talking and after he just explained a read on me

zzz

i'm out >< i just...can't do this right now
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 10 2015 04:11 GMT
#4529
already said scott -_-

damdy
milo
hf
ruxx
????
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 10 2015 04:13 GMT
#4530
Thank you for just answering the question instead of taking twice the time about how you have already answered.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 10 2015 04:20 GMT
#4531
On July 10 2015 13:13 scott31337 wrote:
Thank you for just answering the question instead of taking twice the time about how you have already answered.


ignoring the passive aggressiveness in this post...it irritates me from people asking the same question over and over or misrepresenting my play over and over much more than just from people who don't remember one post in thousands in a 200+ page game
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 10 2015 04:23 GMT
#4532
On July 10 2015 13:00 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 02:18 ruXxar wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 08 2015 23:08 rsoultin wrote:
okay ruxxar. i've explained it all, but not concisely and not politely because i'm not polite

but i'll do it solely to have it in one place and to say this is the last time i am going to discuss my trfel toneread or my interactions/read on hf, whether you keep ignoring that and tunneling with the same points or not

reasons i'm tonereading truffle town: lightness with me (i catch him as mafia early, see student v where i opened with pressure on truffle for his weird read on ls, and greymist's game), joking that matches his dry humor, grumbling at me for saying i thought he was town (look at it this way: as scum he should be happy that he gets an rsoul townread and finally broke my streak...as town it makes a lot more sense to be irritated that i'm still getting a read off him off very few posts), and yes, not wanting to give an opinion on something he hasn't looked at is actually towny cause truffle holds himself to ridiculously high standards and spends an inordinate amount of time combing through posts before coming to a decision <- all of these things are very personal that i realize other people don't know about him and mean more to me than others, so i didn't go into it, just as i didn't go into it with my early toneread on damdy in himalayas

the first exchange with hf: you're misrepresenting/misreading it. when hf first said he didn't need my opinion i let it go. i was actually discussing things with bresh and truffle when hf said "see, this post means his question to you wasn't trying to determine your alignment"...to which i responded that i didn't think that was the purpose of the question anyway and made a joke about hf forgetting how stubborn i was...he then basically told me to shut up and go into a corner and color, so yeah, i got pissed at him. i actually broke it off BEFORE the mod ever intervened, which frankly was probably for the post hf made right before the mod post...because that was ad hominem to a tee, basically saying no one gives a shit what i say because of my tonereads

subsequently: i came back to the thread scumreading hf because i'd had time to cool down and where he said he was questioning truffle, he actually was saying, and yes i'm paraphrasing "you're scum cause you have mafiaitis. nothing you can say or do will change my mind. you may as well give up". plus the way he just threw shit at me when i wasn't doing anything. usually we only shitfight when he's scum, and i JUST came off a game where he and bugs did that to deliberately put me on tilt cause i'm fiery -_- i kept trying to get people to see what i was seeing and he kept on trying to say i was defending truffle and everyone else was taking that up, and it was supremely frustrating that people kept not understanding what i was trying to say...that hf never intended to get a read off truffle in the first place

that continued with ignoring the fact that truffle was quizzing ls between the time of his townread and scumread on ls and had said he was writing something on him, instead just going hey! look! nothing has happened between these reads! me saying he's not reading was his clue to go back and read. hts did it. she saw it. hf should have. he preferred to fight me instead

the only reason i left off hf was his point on truffle's case all coming from before he dropped the townread was actually good. i even tried to explain what my issue with him was more concisely, which works better when i'm not angry. it's still weird to me that he thinks telling someone they're scum and he won't ever change his mind is pressure, but i was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for the moment since yeah, even if he's scum not gonna lynch him d1 like ever >< was more productive to discuss reads

but here i come back to the thread and he's back to jumping on me for nitnoidisms

as for you, you're just parroting him like you two are butt buddies, and it feels a lot like being double-teamed...deja vu bugs and hf...plus i KNOW that you've seen i do this toneread thing and am willing to fight for it regardless if the so-called "evidence" when it comes to an actual lynch; see: GB, so why you find it so weird i'm doing it again this game i can't fathom

most of this i've already said

now i will ignore you unless you talk about something else or are actually willing to talk reads instead of whining about me being pissed at your misrepresentation and inattentiveness

was that polite enough?




also, yeah...i didn't get through the thread @.@ i'd just post a reads list, but it would only be for the sake of posting it cause it's outdated

i really don't like hf still, or ruxx (though this could be OMGUS i'm willing to admit), and damdy felt off to me, too, but i want to read the section of the day i missed that had people scumreading him before i come to a judgment on that

beyond that i think bresh/truffle/marv/geript are top townies for me...would add palmar to that but lol my track record with palmar >< someone else can read him


I appreciate the change in tone here. I can work with you like this.

Now, I don't really feel like you're addressing the main point here.
The essence of all my posting is simply this: why did you feel the necessity to defend/answer for trfel? HF was not addressing you, so you shouldn't have felt any need to interject.

I can see these reasonable motives:

1 you are town, you and trfel are such close friends that you feel like you need to defend him since you think your read is correct and everyone else is wrong.(I don't see you defending other people being attacked)
2 you are mafia defending town trfel because you are certain of his alignment and you know he's an easy target.
If he flips you know you will look good for defending him.
3 you are mafia defending mafia trfel because he's your partner.

Right now I'm leaning toward options 2 and 3, because the composite of your play seems scummy to me.

That said, there's other people in the game, and I need to spend my time evaluating them as well.


^ his response, btw, and clear evidence that he DID NOT read the very post he replied to and keeps asking the same questions

not only was it explained in the post, but it also is very clear in my filter, which he claims to have read given his horrendous paraphrase

yet always the same question(s)

tell me hf, if you're really town here, why ruxxar would have an issue with me defending a TOWNREAD on TONE after GB and Damdred last game, anyway...much less when my point wasn't even that truffle wasn't scum, but rather that your push was scummy?

he's making shit up if he's saying i'm scum for something i did as town

if you're really town, can't you see how far up your ass he's crawled with this push that he can't possibly even believe?


meh typing too fast again -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 10 2015 04:29 GMT
#4533
Rsoultin, you still think Holyflare is scum?
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 10 2015 04:37 GMT
#4534
On July 10 2015 13:11 rsoultin wrote:
already said scott -_-

damdy
milo
hf
ruxx
????


Add scott to your scumlist.
Retired.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 10 2015 04:46 GMT
#4535
Oh, wow, I'm blind.

That answers my question, then XD
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 10 2015 04:53 GMT
#4536
On July 10 2015 13:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 13:11 rsoultin wrote:
already said scott -_-

damdy
milo
hf
ruxx
????


Add scott to your scumlist.


Make a case on me please. You keep scumreading me and I've seen very little reasoning for it.

I was busy filter diving and found some things I think I will save for D3, but since you wanted to join in on the fun -

On July 08 2015 12:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
As an aside, I don't think milo is mafia.
I just wanted to point that out in case someone asks me about it later.


On July 08 2015 12:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 12:24 milo109 wrote:
If you think I'm actually getting a check off at any point in this game....


Still.
Just.
Don't use it on MZ.


What do you think of MZ and Milo at the moment?
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 10 2015 04:56 GMT
#4537
Hey guys I'm back, didn't realize we had another day lol.

So damdred is done, that bullshit with geript is like the final nail in an already nail filled coffin.

I see some people haven't let go of wanting me dead which is annoying but please don't waste a vigi shot on me. Use it on wave or vivax or someone else useless and scummy.

In the meantime I suppose we're deciding the next lynch. If you want me dead over someone like milo or wave or Vivax or Scott let's talk.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 10 2015 04:56 GMT
#4538
Can you also elaborate a bit more on your thoughts here Oats-

On July 08 2015 23:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 23:06 marvellosity wrote:
i somehow feel like i need to lead this town, but i don't feel like i have a good enough grasp on the game and i'm not really feeling the inclination to put in that much work.

what do


Is Damdred town? Normally I'd have a solid read on him at some point but I don't really have one right now and that bothers me.

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 23:07 Harkon wrote:
I also don't think MZ's defense of BM was towny at all.


The more I read it the less I like it.

THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 10 2015 04:58 GMT
#4539
On July 10 2015 13:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Hey guys I'm back, didn't realize we had another day lol.

So damdred is done, that bullshit with geript is like the final nail in an already nail filled coffin.

I see some people haven't let go of wanting me dead which is annoying but please don't waste a vigi shot on me. Use it on wave or vivax or someone else useless and scummy.

In the meantime I suppose we're deciding the next lynch. If you want me dead over someone like milo or wave or Vivax or Scott let's talk.

I want you dead.

Why dont you wanna get vigged?
No gg, No skill.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 10 2015 04:58 GMT
#4540
On July 10 2015 13:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 13:11 rsoultin wrote:
already said scott -_-

damdy
milo
hf
ruxx
????


Add scott to your scumlist.


like he's with a whole slew of eeeeeeh people there, honestly...i've got several nulls in this game, though maybe not so much once i actually get through the thread lol ><

apart from the people i already said i was townreading since early and the believable claims i mentioned...well obviously ls with the gunwhatever claim is believable and frankly that claim isn't as horrible as people painted it out to be anyway, given two guns and mafia has to waste an rb on him (if they even have an rb by then lol ><) to stop him n2 anyway

inclined to like you for reasons that are entirely just because you're fitting in neatly with bresh and myself xP in terms of thought process

hts' miller claim is within her town play and her pushes and interest in the game also align with that

nnnnh

yeah i think those are really the only 2/3 i haven't mentioned already several times who i'm townreading right now? everyone else falls in around null for various reasons (mostly that i can't remember much of them lol ><)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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