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On July 09 2015 23:08 Breshke wrote:
The way i see it we lynch damdred and hardon is around D3 or we lynch milo and either geript or ritoky is around D3 probably ritoky as he seems to be busy.
Let's say in some "bizarro world" in geript's words, that Damdred flips JK.
Absent Harkon's claim (and regardless of whom you think it is), do you have any behaviour related reason to scumread him?
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HtS, I would agree that vet + banisher + JK seems like a lot of protection, especially given scum don't have a vigi role
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On July 09 2015 23:11 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 23:08 Half the Sky wrote:
That all said, considering behaviour and all, the lynch should be Damdred. I just don't buy the explanation for JKing ritoky. I also very much believe ritoky's explanation for suggesting that a scum ritoky should be smart enough NOT to carry KP given the number of people scumreading him.
JK action N1, as Oats said should be a defensive one. I know in Himalayas, a scummer WAS JKed offensively but that individual (or I should say the original individual) was also likely mistakenly townread, that was more coincidence than intentional. But I feel that Damdred is exp enough he should know how to JK. To add on to this if he wasn't sure what to do with his night action i don't see why he didn't jsut abstain since he only has 2 charges and i don't think he was in too much danger of getting NK'd nor was he at the top of peoples lynch lists so he probably could have gotten two more nights
I'd like to think a town damdred would habe JK'ed marv especially if unsure. I certainly would have.
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On July 09 2015 23:09 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 23:07 marvellosity wrote:On July 09 2015 23:07 rsoultin wrote:On July 09 2015 23:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Should I sheep you on this thing on Damdred Tina? 100% it's not quite the same as HF's red check, but if there's one thing i'm fucking amazing at it's evaluating claims, and i see absolutely no scum benefit for harkon to fakeclaim vet here this doesn't take a genius I was about to say this. Not to insult rsoultin but why on earth does LS need rsoultin to sheep her on this.
eh i'm not insulted
i called it simple for a reason. it is. i don't understand all the waffling
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On July 09 2015 23:10 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 23:08 Breshke wrote:
Rsoul why do you specifically point out HF wants to lynch milo over damdred. If damdred is 95% scum then milo is basically 95% scum add on to that the weird way he handled damdreds claim i don't see a problem with lynching either of them.
The way i see it we lynch damdred and hardon is around D3 or we lynch milo and either geript or ritoky is around D3 probably ritoky as he seems to be busy.
So yeah damdred is probs a better lynch today because mafia rb xP thought that was obvious in my post but you know
Yeah but the RB doesn't mean much at this point really. This is a dumb thing to talk about thought because it doesn't matter my bad
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On July 09 2015 23:12 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 23:11 Breshke wrote:On July 09 2015 23:08 Half the Sky wrote:
That all said, considering behaviour and all, the lynch should be Damdred. I just don't buy the explanation for JKing ritoky. I also very much believe ritoky's explanation for suggesting that a scum ritoky should be smart enough NOT to carry KP given the number of people scumreading him.
JK action N1, as Oats said should be a defensive one. I know in Himalayas, a scummer WAS JKed offensively but that individual (or I should say the original individual) was also likely mistakenly townread, that was more coincidence than intentional. But I feel that Damdred is exp enough he should know how to JK. To add on to this if he wasn't sure what to do with his night action i don't see why he didn't jsut abstain since he only has 2 charges and i don't think he was in too much danger of getting NK'd nor was he at the top of peoples lynch lists so he probably could have gotten two more nights I'd like to think a town damdred would habe JK'ed marv especially if unsure. I certainly would have.
yes, it's the fact that jailing me takes literally zero thought. it's not like he or anyone else was umming and ahhing on my alignment this game.
Plus Damdy <3s me anyway.
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On July 09 2015 23:13 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 23:10 rsoultin wrote:On July 09 2015 23:08 Breshke wrote:
Rsoul why do you specifically point out HF wants to lynch milo over damdred. If damdred is 95% scum then milo is basically 95% scum add on to that the weird way he handled damdreds claim i don't see a problem with lynching either of them.
The way i see it we lynch damdred and hardon is around D3 or we lynch milo and either geript or ritoky is around D3 probably ritoky as he seems to be busy.
So yeah damdred is probs a better lynch today because mafia rb xP thought that was obvious in my post but you know Yeah but the RB doesn't mean much at this point really. This is a dumb thing to talk about thought because it doesn't matter my bad
you srs?
killing RB is huge
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On July 09 2015 23:13 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 23:13 Breshke wrote:On July 09 2015 23:10 rsoultin wrote:On July 09 2015 23:08 Breshke wrote:
Rsoul why do you specifically point out HF wants to lynch milo over damdred. If damdred is 95% scum then milo is basically 95% scum add on to that the weird way he handled damdreds claim i don't see a problem with lynching either of them.
The way i see it we lynch damdred and hardon is around D3 or we lynch milo and either geript or ritoky is around D3 probably ritoky as he seems to be busy.
So yeah damdred is probs a better lynch today because mafia rb xP thought that was obvious in my post but you know Yeah but the RB doesn't mean much at this point really. This is a dumb thing to talk about thought because it doesn't matter my bad you srs? killing RB is huge
Yep. It is the best role scum has and even more reason to kill damdred and only damdred.
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On July 09 2015 23:07 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 23:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Should I sheep you on this thing on Damdred Tina? 100% it's not quite the same as HF's red check, but if there's one thing i'm fucking amazing at it's evaluating claims, and i see absolutely no scum benefit for harkon to fakeclaim vet here
Alright fair enough I will sheep you this time around because I love and Damdred being weird about early Day 1(Although I do tend find scum but mainly if I get put in a corner against all odds).
##Vote: Damdred
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okay yes i do understand the waffling
banisher got shot and we don't want to lose jk if damdy was having a major herpaderp
but it's just so much more likely he's scum here + he doesn't survive the night anyway if he's jk pretty sure so either way his usefulness is spent if that's the only reason people are considering not lynching him today
if you've got a townread on him for his play for whatever reason, i'd like to hear it
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Sorry let me rephrase. Killing the RB today as opossed to killing the RB tomorrow doesn't seem like a big deal to me
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If damdred is mafia and we lynch him then unless mafia has 2 rbs scum is forced to kill both ritoky and geript unless they want to let them get another check. Which means marv and me are both alive day3.
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On July 09 2015 23:15 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 23:07 rsoultin wrote:On July 09 2015 23:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Should I sheep you on this thing on Damdred Tina? 100% it's not quite the same as HF's red check, but if there's one thing i'm fucking amazing at it's evaluating claims, and i see absolutely no scum benefit for harkon to fakeclaim vet here Alright fair enough I will sheep you this time around because I love you and Damdred being weird about me early Day 1(Although I do tend find scum but mainly if I get put in a corner against all odds). ##Vote: Damdred
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On July 09 2015 23:15 Harkon wrote:
If damdred is mafia and we lynch him then unless mafia has 2 rbs scum is forced to kill both ritoky and geript unless they want to let them get another check. Which means marv and me are both alive day3.
fuck
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On July 09 2015 23:08 Breshke wrote:
Rsoul why do you specifically point out HF wants to lynch milo over damdred. If damdred is 95% scum then milo is basically 95% scum add on to that the weird way he handled damdreds claim i don't see a problem with lynching either of them.
The way i see it we lynch damdred and hardon is around D3 or we lynch milo and either geript or ritoky is around D3 probably ritoky as he seems to be busy.
So yeah damdred is probs a better lynch today
On July 09 2015 23:15 Harkon wrote:
If damdred is mafia and we lynch him then unless mafia has 2 rbs scum is forced to kill both ritoky and geript unless they want to let them get another check. Which means marv and me are both alive day3.
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plus still haven't read! \o/
>> i may be pushing this hard partially so i don't have to read the game until the weekend when i have the time -swt-
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On July 09 2015 23:16 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 23:15 Harkon wrote:
If damdred is mafia and we lynch him then unless mafia has 2 rbs scum is forced to kill both ritoky and geript unless they want to let them get another check. Which means marv and me are both alive day3. fuck
lazy mofo
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On July 09 2015 23:16 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 23:15 Harkon wrote:
If damdred is mafia and we lynch him then unless mafia has 2 rbs scum is forced to kill both ritoky and geript unless they want to let them get another check. Which means marv and me are both alive day3. fuck
the horror xP
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On July 09 2015 23:01 rsoultin wrote:
-_-
this is really much simpler than y'all are making it
even ignoring that the best people at reading damdred were having trouble/scumreading him this game (not to be confused with the usual range of scrubs who can't get a read on him), it's still very simple
jat's claim - no scum benefit to claiming vet here. if damdy is town jk scum can get him lynched anyway without taking the risk of a claim + the way he's been talking since EoD reeked of extra info rather than it coming out of the blue like "hey, what if i do this, guys? hehehe!"
both kp accounted for
if ritoky wasn't shot and he's town, he was roleblocked, or scum are completely inept
jk doesn't protect one of the two contested cop claims in this scenario. 30 mins before EoN and in a hurry or not. just no -_- it's more valuable to leave them alone in case if by some miracle they can get a check, or hope scum is stupid enough to resolve the dispute for town by killing one
9 times out of 10 damdred is scum here. probably more like 19 out of 20 xP
as a sidenote:
- we have hf wanting to lynch milo over damdred when damdred is like 95% mafia rb and there are a ton of blue claims, plus nks on palmar/harkon strong suggestion one of the "bigs" is scum
- if two mafia rbs ever flip lynch ruxxar with fire for tmi
believable claims: geript (suspecting damdy the whole time, and he reads damdy similarly to how i do so chances are his reads are just as good), harkon (see above), ritoky is cleared if (when) damdred flips scum, flipped banisher
milo most likely scum flailing
fifth scum is most likely a low impact player keeping their head low
^ quoted for awesomeness btw
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On July 09 2015 23:17 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 23:16 marvellosity wrote:On July 09 2015 23:15 Harkon wrote:
If damdred is mafia and we lynch him then unless mafia has 2 rbs scum is forced to kill both ritoky and geript unless they want to let them get another check. Which means marv and me are both alive day3. fuck lazy mofo
So you mean to him JAT 
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