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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 07 2015 20:16 GMT
#2681
On July 08 2015 05:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Scratch that last Palmar idea - he looks fine for now. Can't come up with a reason to lynch him and I'd rather not derail the wagon onto someone with a couple of decent posts.

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 05:13 boxerfred wrote:
bluehunter disappeared, bringing him up hereby.


I've been doing this for a while. Thoughts?

None that I wouldn't have said before.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 07 2015 20:16 GMT
#2682
On July 08 2015 05:10 Holyflare wrote:
Can someone remember a single scum read other than me that rsoul had? I can't really. She also was adamant about how she'd ignore everyone if she thought she was right and push the person (like she pushed marv ages ago) and dropped her push on me because marv said so. Super easily.

Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 20:16 GMT
#2683
On July 08 2015 05:01 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 04:56 Holyflare wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:55 ritoky wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:54 Holyflare wrote:
anyone wanna do some crazy shenanigans onto people that nobody has mentioned for ages? :D


Who we considering?


well that's the problem you see, i dunno!


people who left no impression on me: BM, vivax, breshke, WoS

people i would lynch cuz they were wrong: damdred

if we're gonna shennanie onto some1 not mentioned, probably be one of these for me.


BM I can see but the concern was raised there'd be no information if he was MLed. He very well could be scum.

wos I'd already read but nothing had jumped out as scummy for me, ignoring meta obvoiusly since I've not played with him.

Breshke is scumreading Trfel and Scott atm. Hm, someone said he was likely town for interacting WITH the thread instead of around (was that Harkon? geript? I forget....) but in his posts, he's talking about them, but I imagine timezones are the reason he can't push effectively. In any case, I mentioned before that by end of day he has troubel getting scumreads as scum, and the fact he has a few plus a look at Ras means he's probably town.

Vivax had scumreads on geript, Damdred and Trfel....the nature of those reads, I didnt' agree on his read on Damdred, but...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 07 2015 20:17 GMT
#2684
I need to leave soon, and I haven't caught up in the thread.

I see that milo109 claimed two-shot cop, and Holyflare claimed vigilante.

If it's between milo109 and ritoky, I think I lynch ritoky.

I don't want to lynch Half the Sky, but I also don't know why people are scumreading her?

Anyway, (very) short version of why Holyflare is scum:

Someone once said that Holyflare gets mad as town, but not as scum. This isn't really true, but Holyflare's tone seems to be a fairly good way of reading him.

For example, in Linux Mafia, Holyflare was mad at most people in the game and towards the end of Day 1 started throwing suspicion more wildly at everyone. His anger didn't really have justification. Contrast with Guardians of the Galaxy, where Holyflare and Alakaslam scumread each other early on. Despite Alakaslam being somewhat scummy (he always is, to some extent), Holyflare eventually agreed that Alakaslam could be town, despite objectively having little reason for it. And he didn't let his anger get in the way of scumhunting.

Here, Holyflare's felt way too angry, way too often. One example of this is that he was angry at me. If Holyflare is very confident that I am scum, he should be happy at having caught me, not angry at me for doing scummy things. It makes sense for him to be angry at townies who don't want to lynch me. However, Holyflare's posting didn't at all seem interested in showing people why I am mafia, but instead focused on pointless arguing with me. Holyflare knows when an argument isn't going anywhere, especially when it's with one of his scumreads. Holyflare has no problem filling the thread with nonsense and arguing with no goal in mind.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
July 07 2015 20:18 GMT
#2685
Vote Count


Milo109 (7): rsoultin, Scott31337, Holyflare, KelsierSC, Harkon, ruXxar, Half the Sky
ritoky (7): Palmar, Bill Murray, Clarity_nl, Oatsmaster, marvellosity, geript, boxerfred
Trfel (2): XEliteBlueHunter69X, Vivax
Half the sky (2): milo109, ritoky
Scott31337 (1): Breshke
Clarity_nl (1): Damdred

Not Voting (5): WaveofShadow, Meapak_Ziphh, Trfel, LightningStrike, ObiWanShinobi

Currently, no one is set to be lynched. With 25 alive it takes 13 to lynch. Day ends at Tuesday, Jul 07 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in .

Voting is Mandatory! Voting is done in the voting thread: (link)
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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 07 2015 20:18 GMT
#2686
Basically here's the wagon options. If you're not on one of these, then you're not helping/mafia:
1. Ritoky--Of the claims, he's my preferred lynch. Plus he'll do anything as any alignment re: claiming. But I think he might be town from a few posts he's made
2. Damdred--Not playing his town game whatsoever. Maybe he's busy. Maybe he's trying new things. Maybe his wife's pregnant. Maybe his wife got shot again. IDK. But he's really off imo.
3. Rsoultina--I don't have a great read on her. HF thinks she's scum. I don't have a reason to townread her.
4. Bill Murray--A good D1 lynch if we can't find something better. He's been exceptionally useless and usually he says at least 1 interesting thing as town.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 07 2015 20:19 GMT
#2687
Anywho shower then gotta get some food. WIll be on phone for rest of day.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 07 2015 20:19 GMT
#2688
hi fam I'm here, let me read thread and shit
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Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 20:20 GMT
#2689
On July 08 2015 05:17 Trfel wrote:
I need to leave soon, and I haven't caught up in the thread.

I see that milo109 claimed two-shot cop, and Holyflare claimed vigilante.

If it's between milo109 and ritoky, I think I lynch ritoky.

I don't want to lynch Half the Sky, but I also don't know why people are scumreading her?

Anyway, (very) short version of why Holyflare is scum:

Someone once said that Holyflare gets mad as town, but not as scum. This isn't really true, but Holyflare's tone seems to be a fairly good way of reading him.

For example, in Linux Mafia, Holyflare was mad at most people in the game and towards the end of Day 1 started throwing suspicion more wildly at everyone. His anger didn't really have justification. Contrast with Guardians of the Galaxy, where Holyflare and Alakaslam scumread each other early on. Despite Alakaslam being somewhat scummy (he always is, to some extent), Holyflare eventually agreed that Alakaslam could be town, despite objectively having little reason for it. And he didn't let his anger get in the way of scumhunting.

Here, Holyflare's felt way too angry, way too often. One example of this is that he was angry at me. If Holyflare is very confident that I am scum, he should be happy at having caught me, not angry at me for doing scummy things. It makes sense for him to be angry at townies who don't want to lynch me. However, Holyflare's posting didn't at all seem interested in showing people why I am mafia, but instead focused on pointless arguing with me. Holyflare knows when an argument isn't going anywhere, especially when it's with one of his scumreads. Holyflare has no problem filling the thread with nonsense and arguing with no goal in mind.

This is really all you have? Really?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 07 2015 20:20 GMT
#2690
Don't lynch rsoultin, that's really stupid.

Voting ritoky for now, will check back in a bit, hopefully.

Damdred didn't play very well last game (as town), and I did like his play early on (the LightningStrike push).

##vote ritoky
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 07 2015 20:20 GMT
#2691
On July 08 2015 05:20 Trfel wrote:
Don't lynch rsoultin, that's really stupid.

Voting ritoky for now, will check back in a bit, hopefully.

Damdred didn't play very well last game (as town), and I did like his play early on (the LightningStrike push).

##vote ritoky

explain.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 07 2015 20:21 GMT
#2692
Trfel you say this is the worst you have played any game. Rsoultin town reads you before you even play despite you playing at your worst. You don't bat an eyelid. Explain?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 07 2015 20:21 GMT
#2693
On July 08 2015 05:20 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 05:17 Trfel wrote:
I need to leave soon, and I haven't caught up in the thread.

I see that milo109 claimed two-shot cop, and Holyflare claimed vigilante.

If it's between milo109 and ritoky, I think I lynch ritoky.

I don't want to lynch Half the Sky, but I also don't know why people are scumreading her?

Anyway, (very) short version of why Holyflare is scum:

Someone once said that Holyflare gets mad as town, but not as scum. This isn't really true, but Holyflare's tone seems to be a fairly good way of reading him.

For example, in Linux Mafia, Holyflare was mad at most people in the game and towards the end of Day 1 started throwing suspicion more wildly at everyone. His anger didn't really have justification. Contrast with Guardians of the Galaxy, where Holyflare and Alakaslam scumread each other early on. Despite Alakaslam being somewhat scummy (he always is, to some extent), Holyflare eventually agreed that Alakaslam could be town, despite objectively having little reason for it. And he didn't let his anger get in the way of scumhunting.

Here, Holyflare's felt way too angry, way too often. One example of this is that he was angry at me. If Holyflare is very confident that I am scum, he should be happy at having caught me, not angry at me for doing scummy things. It makes sense for him to be angry at townies who don't want to lynch me. However, Holyflare's posting didn't at all seem interested in showing people why I am mafia, but instead focused on pointless arguing with me. Holyflare knows when an argument isn't going anywhere, especially when it's with one of his scumreads. Holyflare has no problem filling the thread with nonsense and arguing with no goal in mind.

This is really all you have? Really?
It's all I have time to share right now.

If you actually take time to check what I'm saying, you will see it. Read some Holyflare games if you need to.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 20:21 GMT
#2694
On July 08 2015 05:11 geript wrote:
Clarity_nl
Vivax
Bill Murray
Meapak_Ziphh
Trfel
ObiWanShinobi
Damdred
rsoultin
XEliteBlueHunter69X

I still think I'd rather lynch Damdred or Bill Murray. Damdred doesn't seem to be thinking anything like how he thinks as town and BM is a great fall back if we don't want to lynch into claims. Of the claims, I think Ritoky's the better lynch.


Alright, lemme take a pass at Damdred's/rsoultin's filters.
I had been townreading them before and I have been tricked by both.

If we're going to talk about Damdred though I think we should also talk about whether his reads on LS were fabricated or grasping for straws or baitworthy - Vivax seemed to really push that idea, so if he's town this is the time to talk about that. Personally I did NOT think there was problems with that but there was an expectation that he'd follow up on Trfel or what have you.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 07 2015 20:21 GMT
#2695
K i'll just ninjavote from my phone before deadline
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21991 Posts
July 07 2015 20:21 GMT
#2696
On July 08 2015 05:18 geript wrote:
Basically here's the wagon options. If you're not on one of these, then you're not helping/mafia:
1. Ritoky--Of the claims, he's my preferred lynch. Plus he'll do anything as any alignment re: claiming. But I think he might be town from a few posts he's made
2. Damdred--Not playing his town game whatsoever. Maybe he's busy. Maybe he's trying new things. Maybe his wife's pregnant. Maybe his wife got shot again. IDK. But he's really off imo.
3. Rsoultina--I don't have a great read on her. HF thinks she's scum. I don't have a reason to townread her.
4. Bill Murray--A good D1 lynch if we can't find something better. He's been exceptionally useless and usually he says at least 1 interesting thing as town.


What is this trash. Rso is town, BM claimed, ritoky claimed and you think he's town anyway.
And why is Damdred not playing his town game?

You or Trfel are the best options.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 07 2015 20:21 GMT
#2697
It can be argued that BM would sit back and do as little as possible as mafia, but I'm fairly certain we beat that idea to death earlier on.

I'd lynch him over the claimed cops at this point.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 07 2015 20:22 GMT
#2698
spoiler alert, I get angry at ineptitude
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21991 Posts
July 07 2015 20:24 GMT
#2699
On July 08 2015 05:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hi fam I'm here, let me read thread and shit


Would shenanny onto this poo
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 07 2015 20:24 GMT
#2700
On July 08 2015 05:17 Trfel wrote:
I need to leave soon, and I haven't caught up in the thread.

I see that milo109 claimed two-shot cop, and Holyflare claimed vigilante.

If it's between milo109 and ritoky, I think I lynch ritoky.

I don't want to lynch Half the Sky, but I also don't know why people are scumreading her?

Anyway, (very) short version of why Holyflare is scum:

Someone once said that Holyflare gets mad as town, but not as scum. This isn't really true, but Holyflare's tone seems to be a fairly good way of reading him.

For example, in Linux Mafia, Holyflare was mad at most people in the game and towards the end of Day 1 started throwing suspicion more wildly at everyone. His anger didn't really have justification. Contrast with Guardians of the Galaxy, where Holyflare and Alakaslam scumread each other early on. Despite Alakaslam being somewhat scummy (he always is, to some extent), Holyflare eventually agreed that Alakaslam could be town, despite objectively having little reason for it. And he didn't let his anger get in the way of scumhunting.

Here, Holyflare's felt way too angry, way too often. One example of this is that he was angry at me. If Holyflare is very confident that I am scum, he should be happy at having caught me, not angry at me for doing scummy things. It makes sense for him to be angry at townies who don't want to lynch me. However, Holyflare's posting didn't at all seem interested in showing people why I am mafia, but instead focused on pointless arguing with me. Holyflare knows when an argument isn't going anywhere, especially when it's with one of his scumreads. Holyflare has no problem filling the thread with nonsense and arguing with no goal in mind.


HF jokes as vigi in like every game he's town - did you think his claim was serious?
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