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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 07 2015 17:46 GMT
#2401
I'm saying we lynch Oats over ritoky because Oats is actively throwing more trash in the thread.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 07 2015 17:47 GMT
#2402
On July 08 2015 02:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 02:41 Half the Sky wrote:
Also for BF and WoS, the meta comparison to my last game is flawed.

1 I play/approach large games differently than I do minis as either alignment so comparing this game to Not Themed is really weak
2 I have pushed two players (HF can believe whatever he wants to believe on this point, I've again demonstrably shown it) this game so far which happen to be two (now one apparently) of the same players that HF is pushing
3 Large games mean I take more time looking at more people, since it's pretty easy for scummers to skate by. I can see how people can see that as scummy but when necessary I will consolidate on people (and will do now, seeing as people are voting ritoky) that I am finding scummy.

This is kind of weird. I don't know if I've ever heard anyone say that before.
I'm not really considering meta anyway especially when I have little to no experience with you.


I don't think she's weird for saying that - she said it in Aperture and was town.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 07 2015 17:47 GMT
#2403
I'm reading this Hf case now but it's gonna take me a little bit - I'm doing important stuff atm and my attention is divided.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 17:49 GMT
#2404
On July 07 2015 19:02 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 18:09 boxerfred wrote:
Also I might refrain from my HF scum lean, the read change from Trfel that he observed was really good. Still need to catch up.


I thought it was good when I first saw his post too. But HF is really good at taking things out of context if/when he's scum. Even if he's town the post is flawed because LS' filter showed some reasonable basis for the change.

The easiest way to cross check that is to look at LightningStrike's filter against the time stamps provided. It is a little annoying to do because the time stamps are in Korean time but once I did I found three quotes that I objectively found scummy in his filter before Trfel even explained it. (You hit the quote button and you'll find time stamp quoted in KST.)


Like this entire post dismisses the entire case on Trfel based on absolutely nothing.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 17:49 GMT
#2405
On July 08 2015 02:46 boxerfred wrote:
I'm saying we lynch Oats over ritoky because Oats is actively throwing more trash in the thread.

We should lynch the scummiest player and not the dumbest.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 07 2015 17:50 GMT
#2406
On July 08 2015 02:46 boxerfred wrote:
I'm saying we lynch Oats over ritoky because Oats is actively throwing more trash in the thread.

Stop pushing your old unupdated read.

No gg, No skill.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 17:51 GMT
#2407
"I objectively found some of LS's posts scummy" means nothing. No way a post can be objectively scummy at all, firstly. Secondly, if those posts were objectively scummy, were they contained in Trfel's post? I utterly doubt it because Trfel's post was based on so much nonsense that it was hard to believe he could even believe it.

So basically this is a defence for the sake of defending and is completely out of whack response for someone with imperfect information.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 17:53 GMT
#2408
On July 08 2015 02:43 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 02:41 Half the Sky wrote:
Also for BF and WoS, the meta comparison to my last game is flawed.

1 I play/approach large games differently than I do minis as either alignment so comparing this game to Not Themed is really weak
2 I have pushed two players (HF can believe whatever he wants to believe on this point, I've again demonstrably shown it) this game so far which happen to be two (now one apparently) of the same players that HF is pushing
3 Large games mean I take more time looking at more people, since it's pretty easy for scummers to skate by. I can see how people can see that as scummy but when necessary I will consolidate on people (and will do now, seeing as people are voting ritoky) that I am finding scummy.


That said, who are you top scum reads and why?


milo and ritoky -

Milo was scummy for coming off the gate and making scumreads without explanations - I question him on his reads - he comes back and responds with why he saw KSC a certain way and the LS read also made no sense to me given how he phrased it. I didn't like his response re: KSC and since left a few more questions for him.

ritoky made several "drive by" reads and I questioned him on these reads as well. First he starts off with the one of "milo/ls/third person I cannot remember offhand" must be scum, just assuming someone in there is scum because they all gave what he considered easy reads on Oats. That's great but where's the follow through. Even regardless of the fact he'd say he'd have to afk, I took same issue with what he raised with KSC and myself - why is he discounting that both of us if town could be misreading him. He's not looking further at our gameplay. And then when pressured, he claims the 1 shot dt which I had agreed is a safe role to claim and I unvoted thinking he'd follow through on some of his initial concerns. Separate of my scumread, since then he's scumread and dropped OWS, so I have no idea where he's going at this point.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 07 2015 17:53 GMT
#2409
On July 08 2015 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 02:46 boxerfred wrote:
I'm saying we lynch Oats over ritoky because Oats is actively throwing more trash in the thread.

Stop pushing your old unupdated read.


Stop talking to me
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 07 2015 17:54 GMT
#2410
Oats still has not delivered anything useful by the way. Only responding, derailing, not throwing in anything that would bringt town any further.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 07 2015 17:55 GMT
#2411
...okay so i'm not going to catch up before lab, and definitely not before EoD while y'all continue to spam this up

i'd appreciate a rundown...? like why everyone switched back over to ritoky?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 07 2015 17:58 GMT
#2412
On July 08 2015 02:54 boxerfred wrote:
Oats still has not delivered anything useful by the way. Only responding, derailing, not throwing in anything that would bringt town any further.

I do actually do this and every time I do this, Im wrong.
By this I mean constant remind people how scummy my scum read is but not actually play the game.

Relax dude, just play the game.
Im not getting lynched.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 07 2015 17:58 GMT
#2413
On July 08 2015 02:55 rsoultin wrote:
...okay so i'm not going to catch up before lab, and definitely not before EoD while y'all continue to spam this up

i'd appreciate a rundown...? like why everyone switched back over to ritoky?

read page 100-now
No gg, No skill.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
July 07 2015 17:58 GMT
#2414
Would lynch Wave.

He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.

There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 17:59 GMT
#2415
On July 08 2015 02:55 rsoultin wrote:
...okay so i'm not going to catch up before lab, and definitely not before EoD while y'all continue to spam this up

i'd appreciate a rundown...? like why everyone switched back over to ritoky?


Consolidation I believe it was, what some were talking on earlier in the thread - the two I personally want to lynch are milo/ritoky provided I don't find something eye popping in the filters I'm looking through but HF is having this weird (at best) push on me despite wanting to also lynch milo (and ritoky earlier before he just dropped that now)
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 17:59 GMT
#2416
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.

He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.

There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.


Are you still getting the same scum vibes from Damdred?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 07 2015 18:00 GMT
#2417
@Oats.
Your interaction with geript here is like a flashback to the conversation between batsnacks and geript in our last game.
I like you slightly better due to the way you reacted.
I don't want to lynch you today.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 18:00 GMT
#2418
hey hts why are you ignoring all of my posts and constantly trying to add fuel to the fire when people mention me?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 07 2015 18:01 GMT
#2419
~4 hours. I'll consolidate on Ritoky, but meh. I'd really rather lynch Oats or Vivax or Damdred or idk lots of other people. But meh. I'm pretty blah about who to lynch right now and I feel like being lazy for a bit.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
July 07 2015 18:02 GMT
#2420
On July 08 2015 02:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.

He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.

There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.


Are you still getting the same scum vibes from Damdred?


Dunno have to read him in his entirety.

For now I'd like to ask why we're voting the claimed cop.
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