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Especially like a "That's not true" or "I do that as town too"... I dunno, I'm just not feeling it and I'm tempted to vote on you but I want to at least give you a day where you're not on your phone.
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So what exactly is wrong with my reads that are scummy at this juncture?
Being as this is a Hts game I'm trying not to be abbrassive XD
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On June 17 2015 14:59 Damdred wrote: So what exactly is wrong with my reads that are scummy at this juncture?
Being as this is a Hts game I'm trying not to be abbrassive XD
I don't think your reads are scummy. I think I mentioned it before. I just have a horrible feeling... It's like a mix of gut and meta.
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Anyways, time to go to bed. Breshke give me scum reads pl0x.
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Egg I'm afraid my meta is harder to understand than one game. Hehe
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I just saw there is a new legend of zelda coming to the 3DS and it is like a four swords 2.
Not in a good mood.
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I'm not very good at getting scumreads in games that move this fast I tend to focus too much on the moment and not the big picture of the game and dont go back and really read stuff so you are probably going to be dissapointed nydus
I currently have three people I would lynch.
boxerfred bill Murray shockey
Boxer for his one post on a joke then leaving. Makes me think he isn't intrested in people allighnments
Bill murray for HF's thing. I can see him confirming and then not being bothered to play it out if he rolled scum again after last game.
and shockey because he disagrees with basically everyone on LS yet didn't seem to enquire with anyone about it. Which also makes me think he didn't really care about his read.
All 3 of these are obviously very inactive which is probably a bad thing.
I do however think GB and rsoultin are both really town. GB for his general play and how he has been treating bugs and how fluid his reads have been and rsoultin for how she claimed to get a read on me this game.
I also still think LS is town for all earlier reasons and it doesn't change my read that he hasn't been around.
Damdred is also in my town pile even though I havn't looked into him much at all but i trust rso's read and I like it even more because my other top town gb said to trust rso's read.
I also like this post for ritoky
On June 17 2015 13:52 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 13:51 Breshke wrote:On June 17 2015 13:51 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 13:49 Breshke wrote:On June 17 2015 13:47 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 13:46 Breshke wrote:On June 17 2015 13:15 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 13:11 Breshke wrote:On June 17 2015 12:58 GlowingBear wrote: By the way, trust the tone read rsoultin gives on damdred and me
I've been discussing games with her for a long while and he does that every time. And she does it correctly.
Like, I told her I was freezingfoot last game and she said: you're scum right? you don't feel like town gb
I trust her tone reads as genuine
What is rubbing me the wrong way is the shitfight she entered and the refusal to get off of it. I agree the shitfight is not helping town but I don't think it is alignment indicative. Even before they interacted i knew her and bugs would not get along no matter their alignment unless they were mafia together. That is like the only thing I got out of that shitfight the fact that they i think they can not be mafia together. But yeah I don't think you should judge them on the shitfight because it is jsut their personalities and yeah its boring as fuck but it is because they are both stubborn. They both seem likely town to me now another reason the shitfight is boring as hell. GB why are you sheeping HF? Wheres the townread come from you might have said but i missed it. What about each of their play outside of the shitfight gave you these town reads then? Bugs is very similar to last game and is acting exactly how i expect him too as town for example almost started going after nydus because he thought he was a smurf, continued to hunt for good players to try and get their opinions. I also liked the effort he out in when i asked him to dive damdred. Rsoul i wont count the most recent thing i said because that was after i posted that. I don't actually remember the reason I think it was a gut thing or because she was being difficult. have you ever played with bugs when he was mafia? No. I understand the failures of the read but I don't care So you're saying you have town reads on them outside of their fighting and the reasons are: -incomplete meta read -i don't remember ?????? wat? Yeah that sums it up fairly well. content wise this is such trash mafia crap. but tone wise your defiance gives me a town chub. fuck you for sending mixed signals.
Because I think it would have been so easy for him to shit on me there but he didn't.
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I really don't like that post uhh
GB my scum list is like the top of your lynch list is it bad that they are all afk's
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On June 17 2015 16:10 Breshke wrote: I really don't like that post uhh
GB my scum list is like the top of your lynch list is it bad that they are all afk's
It probably means we are wrong lol.
I'm just going to reevaluate everything tomorrow after we pass the 24 hours mark. I feel I will be flipping reads lol.
We had enough people posting, now we go for the lurkers and lynch them if nothing new come from them
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@GB I realise this is sort of inviting it upon myself, but I totally agree with a 'Lynch all Lurkers' policy, at least for d1. In HG you'll remember I pushed for a d1 lynch on Onegu because he was totally useless. We didn't, and it screwed town at the end because we were stuck with a total coin flip on him, where it was too easy for a ml to happen. You mentioned after the last game that it's stupid to lynch people who are active all over the thread and I agree with that also. Rsoult and bugs sound to me like two townies going after each other.
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Just to add to the above, I think we should focus on finding people who are 1 inactive and 2 have people defending or at least deflecting off of them. At the moment the thread is moving so fast that it would be super easy for Mafia to generally say nothing, but with a couple of clear targets already I think they'll also not allow a ml, or at least fight it.
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Good Morning, Catching up now
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Morning guys I had fun in my clan inhouses and did keep up with the thread but didn't post because I didn't have much time to post stuff but I going to answer questions from others:
On June 17 2015 09:17 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 09:14 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 09:00 KelsierSC wrote:On June 17 2015 08:45 LightningStrike wrote:Also my thoughts so far: Town: Bugs: Meta read says he's town he poking at others and having a big ego :O ritoky: Seemed to be posting freely which I usually associate with him being town just wish he had reads that weren't all null ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) Nydus: Has decent content so far this game just wish he would post more stuff! KSC: Despite the fact I hate his attitude towards me and bugs I think he's town he actually prodding stuff and trying to direct the thread a little bit which I normally seen from him in past games. GB: He seems like his care free self this game although I can see how he would react to a insult from Bugs but otherwise I liking him a little bit ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) Breshke: Didn't fall for a trap by GB and actually thinking critically this game. Null: Everyone else since not a lot posts by others from what I saw. you don't have an opinion on onegu? you asked a lot of questions about him. what about damdred aswell? Well he made like 2 posts although the first post seems pretty weirdish after talking with others about him and his 2nd post pretty much him calling rsoultin scum for bad reasons. Damdred seems okay for now would not lynch till Day 2 for now. I mean..you asked someone , can't remember, to comment on onegu's opening and related material so I figured you must have an opinion on the whole matter. Or where you just asking the questions for no reason? Honestly since it was a hot topic early on I want others thoughts and willing to listen to what others say on him but sadly at the time he didn't post much hence the null read at the time.
On June 17 2015 11:06 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 11:03 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 11:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 10:05 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 10:02 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 10:01 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 09:58 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 09:01 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 08:58 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 08:54 rsoultin wrote: [quote]
ahem hem hem
read again pretty no thanks. I don't put weight in tone reads, I expect you to have some justification for them. lol wow maybe if i just c/p the one little section it will stave off the reading comprehension rant: "best simple way to describe it to the uninitiated is fluidity...he's one stiff mofo as scum ^^" it's how i read him early. i tend to be right. if you don't like it, too bad -shoos- it's not a reading comprehension issue when you literally don't have justification. thanks for pointing me in the right direction, though. ##unvote ##vote rsoultin <3 how cute! it thinks it can lynch me (if you think that's going to prompt me to make shit up to satisfy you, think again lovely) is this supposed to be a fake strong response? I expect you to have reasons for reads. When I ask you for a reason and you literally quote a post of yourself instead of explaining I think there's a great chance you are bullshitting. So it's okay, you don't need to make MORE shit up, you already made up enough for me to call you scum. -yawns- didn't someone say you were supposed to be good? there's a world of difference between no reasoning and no reasoning you approve of Qualifying something as a tone read isn't a reason. It's a cop out. For anyone reading this, take a look at the following. Stuff like this s town but not town cause i'm bad about wrongly reading him town yay! i feel safer when others do it too, though! \o/ Is a great example of responsibility deflection. This is what scum do when they want to give the appearance of having reads but do not want to entrench themselves in any one position because they don't want to get held accountable for them. There's no reason rsoultin here needs to make any sort of statement on LS, but even so why qualify it like this? Let's say rsoultin actually thinks LS is town. This is not actually a reason to believe LS is town. All she is saying is that I think he's town now because other people think he's town, and providing a reason for not having a reason. "I think he's town but don't hold me to that cause I'm bad at reading him! hahaa but it's okay cause other people think he's town, right?" The last part is a great way for rsoultin to get further thread sentiment about LS. It doesn't make sense from a town perspective to say something like this because townies will make the read for themselves and will only qualify what other people say when necessary. Here it just feels forced. o.0 like...if we're taking a basic 3rd grade reading test you mean?
(he's beating out wbg though lol...
"you have no justification for your read" "it's right there" "no it's not" "here it is" "i think you're scum cause you quoted it" "well aren't you the sharpest tool in the shed"
for more paraphrases from rsoul, leave a message after the beep )
and this Yes, let's continue paraphrasing useless shit in an attempt to appear more townie. Repeating yourself by paraphrase is probably the worst way I've ever seen someone try to fake providing reads. You're digging yourself deeper every time you post. aw cutie, you're not reading me at all if you think i don't have reads -amused- narratives bore me. when you're done writing fairytales, let me know when you're done copping out I might consider unvoting you. however, you can just ask LS how hard I will tunnel you to death. And right now I can guarantee you will flip red once I'm done. His tunnels are deeper than the size of Jupiter's diameter and he still sticks to it no matter what esp as town you don't want him to tunell you I already experienced it and so did GB :O Also Bugs and rsoultiin been getting a weird shit fight although I think both are town esp because rsoultin is basically very stubborn as town and she being very stubborn to Bugs about her reads. Also BM haven't even posted idk why people say he's scum because when it's mostly null? Also I liking HF this game I just wish he didn't think I scum when I town this game -_- @GB: Is it alignment indicative that BM haven't posted yet in your mind and if so why?
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@LS are you an experienced player? I'm getting the vibe that you know everyone else here. What do you think about WBG's tunnel? In the last game I played, the people who were most tunnelled on people throughout the game all ended up being town - it was the mafia who were much more circumspect. That leads me to give him a town read, but I wanted to run my thinking by others who might know his 'meta' better...
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I think this should be highlighted more.
On June 17 2015 11:16 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 11:14 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 17 2015 11:13 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 11:12 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 11:06 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 11:05 Holyflare wrote:On June 17 2015 11:04 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 11:02 Holyflare wrote:On June 17 2015 11:00 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 10:59 Holyflare wrote: i'm not masons with ksc hf you are making me really want to push you day 1, despite knowing how unlikely that lynch would be well I know one alignment that wants to lynch confirmed town ^^ if you're gonna call me scum you better start early and directly, hf or you could give a rat's ass and play the game either or i don't see why you're so pissed at me for no reason? either i start playing or i don't i'm still waiting for the semblance of a contribution from you this game ^^ for someone who keeps being standoffish when people push her for responses, you sure are quick to notice a kettle. read hf's filter. read mine. then say we're the same rsoultin already knows the answer! they're not the same cause rsoultin is scum LOL so now you're saying hf is town, too?
This is a really good catch imo. bugs whole thing is about logic and how he dislikes tone reads and shit so why is he calling hf town here? I don't know but this seems like a slip to me.
The "shitfight" as it was so lovingly described, between bugs and rsol. It seemed like a clash of egos but from my character read of both players they wouldn't back down from a fight as either alignment. It didn't feel alignment indicative.
rsol can you explain to me why i'm scum?
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On June 17 2015 19:42 Fidei86 wrote: @LS are you an experienced player? I'm getting the vibe that you know everyone else here. What do you think about WBG's tunnel? In the last game I played, the people who were most tunnelled on people throughout the game all ended up being town - it was the mafia who were much more circumspect. That leads me to give him a town read, but I wanted to run my thinking by others who might know his 'meta' better... I am a experienced player to a degree as I only started play forum mafia in October November area but the tunnel WBG seems pretty townie esp given me knowing his meta he tends to tunnel more as town than scum.
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LS one of the issues I had is that you asked a few questions but there was no follow up to it.
On June 17 2015 08:04 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:02 Damdred wrote: Nydus and ls are my first hard town reads of the game.
Kel is a town lean.
I'm town, this is a good start Any thoughts on other people atm? I would like to know what you thinking that's all.
This one damdred gave thoughts, you press him for more. Then when you give your list damdred isn't on it..but then you say he's ok afterwards. I'd like you to walk me through your process here.
On June 17 2015 08:18 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:16 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 08:11 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:09 ritoky wrote:current state of the thread: ![[image loading]](http://www.gifbin.com/bin/012010/1264505362_cat-fight.gif) more updates to come. choppa 4 on the scene. Ugh can you tell me what your reads are atm based on stuff happening? stuff is happening? Interactions of KSC and Bugs plus what people were posting about Onegu's entrance.
Then with this one, Why did you ask ritoky about this? again I would like your thought process.
I also want to know what you think about shockeyy.
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On June 17 2015 20:20 KelsierSC wrote:LS one of the issues I had is that you asked a few questions but there was no follow up to it. Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:04 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:02 Damdred wrote: Nydus and ls are my first hard town reads of the game.
Kel is a town lean.
I'm town, this is a good start Any thoughts on other people atm? I would like to know what you thinking that's all. This one damdred gave thoughts, you press him for more. Then when you give your list damdred isn't on it..but then you say he's ok afterwards. I'd like you to walk me through your process here. Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:18 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:16 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 08:11 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:09 ritoky wrote:current state of the thread: ![[image loading]](http://www.gifbin.com/bin/012010/1264505362_cat-fight.gif) more updates to come. choppa 4 on the scene. Ugh can you tell me what your reads are atm based on stuff happening? stuff is happening? Interactions of KSC and Bugs plus what people were posting about Onegu's entrance. Then with this one, Why did you ask ritoky about this? again I would like your thought process. I also want to know what you think about shockeyy. I did like damdred's reads for the most part but I was again playing in LoL inhouses at 7:00 pm CST so I didn't post at all to give my thoughts O_o I wanted ritoky's input to get a outsider perspective on it and all I got from him was that it was pretty much null though so ya it ended being a waste Also shockeyy seems okayish content wise just wish he would post more honestly.
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Also fyi KSC sometimes I do tend to forget to follow through regardless of my alignment
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On June 17 2015 20:34 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 20:20 KelsierSC wrote:LS one of the issues I had is that you asked a few questions but there was no follow up to it. On June 17 2015 08:04 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:02 Damdred wrote: Nydus and ls are my first hard town reads of the game.
Kel is a town lean.
I'm town, this is a good start Any thoughts on other people atm? I would like to know what you thinking that's all. This one damdred gave thoughts, you press him for more. Then when you give your list damdred isn't on it..but then you say he's ok afterwards. I'd like you to walk me through your process here. On June 17 2015 08:18 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:16 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 08:11 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:09 ritoky wrote:current state of the thread: ![[image loading]](http://www.gifbin.com/bin/012010/1264505362_cat-fight.gif) more updates to come. choppa 4 on the scene. Ugh can you tell me what your reads are atm based on stuff happening? stuff is happening? Interactions of KSC and Bugs plus what people were posting about Onegu's entrance. Then with this one, Why did you ask ritoky about this? again I would like your thought process. I also want to know what you think about shockeyy. I did like damdred's reads for the most part but I was again playing in LoL inhouses at 7:00 pm CST so I didn't post at all to give my thoughts O_o I wanted ritoky's input to get a outsider perspective on it and all I got from him was that it was pretty much null though so ya it ended being a waste Also shockeyy seems okayish content wise just wish he would post more honestly.
well this is interesting. I completely disagree with this I think his posting has been terrible.
I think the list post with everyone on it and 1/2 words was scummy , he didn't read what damdred had posted and when he got called out on it he tried to cover up. In fact when the pressure went on him he went pretty defensive imo.
It is strange that you like his content when.
On June 17 2015 07:34 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 07:32 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 07:31 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 07:29 GlowingBear wrote: OHAI
I'm town Really anyone can just claim town you know -_- On June 17 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote: Hi guys I finally rolled town and I hope bugs had rolled town too since he played really good in the last game I played with him when I was scum vs his town :o derp. LightningStrike already giving himself away again?...
On June 17 2015 09:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:rsoultin - idk wtf they're posting atm KelsierSC - reminds me of bugs, a butthole, but a town butthole Bill Murray - idk ritoky - Channel 4 Choppa ShoCkeyy - Town Onegu - Misclaim to VT? We'll see, I'll just give him the benefit of the doubt. Holyflare - Opening/Only post claims town lol. Damdred + Show Spoiler +On June 17 2015 07:09 Damdred wrote: So ok claiming town which means ls is scum On June 17 2015 08:29 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:25 KelsierSC wrote:On June 17 2015 08:21 Damdred wrote:On June 17 2015 08:15 KelsierSC wrote:On June 17 2015 08:09 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:08 NydusHerMain wrote: I don't think LS is being that towny o.O. Am I crazy? I'm not saying he's not town but how do people have a "probs town" or "hard town" read on him already. Because they know my meta? Check the database lpus Witchcraft III for my meta if you want any ![](/mirror/smilies/wink.gif) seriously can you shut the fuck up already with this shit you have just taken a shit in your hand and thrown whatever came out into the thread. I don't think your town and bringing up all this meta crap so early on is fucking irritating Even if I'm right and your town keep the bm out of thread. Its not needed even if you are annoyed at this point. I'll substantiate later, but I don't believe nhm or ls are capable of posting such as these as scum. Both are somewhat meta based reads. Kel is just a maybe town. I know I'm town obviously I also think gb is a decent shot as town but don't tell him I said that you can explain ls right now actually...what has he posted that makes him town? There's a lot of shit but nothing of real value. There are two types of people that play mafia 1. Players who are capable of changing meta and care 2. Players who only play for one alignment and either refuse or can't change meta LS belongs in group 2, he's already done several of his town tells at this point. Digging up old,meta cases on him to show how people know him. He's sort of jokey, and he's willing to get into,confrontations to a degree. As scum he's lazy, he is serious and skittish. He's town to me at this juncture. So Damdred, which one is it? Is LS scum cause you're town, or is LS town and you're scum? Or are you both town or scum? Also can you answer this? On June 17 2015 08:12 NydusHerMain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:11 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:09 ritoky wrote:current state of the thread: ![[image loading]](http://www.gifbin.com/bin/012010/1264505362_cat-fight.gif) more updates to come. choppa 4 on the scene. Ugh can you tell me what your reads are atm based on stuff happening? Give it a day or two... Damdred can you substantiate your reads a bit please? Especially on LS and that other guy? Last game you were one of the first ones to give content and you gave pretty good explanations on each of them... You posted afterwards but never responded to this. NydusHerMain - Town? Fidei86 + Show Spoiler +On June 17 2015 08:13 Fidei86 wrote: Evening guys. In case you haven't played with me before, this is my second game (first was Holy Guardians). Heading to bed now, but it looks like there'll be a ton of posts ready for me when I wake up ... Why post this if 40 mins later you're going to post again? On June 17 2015 08:57 Fidei86 wrote: Everyone I played with in HG seems to be carrying on as they left off, except Onegu isn't shit-posting as much, though that's probably because the end of the last game was pretty hype and probably got him jacked to play again. Others will know GB better than I do, but in the HG ins thread he was poking everyone to make reads super early, so that probably means it's his natural play style. He gets a slight town read. I better see poking this game Breshke - His posting currently comes off as town to me atm Mig - waiting GlowingBear - Who knows, acts like a child when things don't go his way in town/scum games. LightningStrike - Acting like he cares? I don't know yet, but his posting looks familiar with his last game where he was scum (not caring about what he writes)wherebugsgo - Ego town butthole VayneAuthority - Not much boxerfred - First post is what? Going to leave now, in-laws are in town.
you need to give me more than you like his content and it is "okayish" it feels like you didn't even read him at all...
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