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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
I think there was a game recently where I was right and was basically lynched for being right. I forget what it was. But yeah. Should have been effortless but I fucked it up. | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
I am legit mad though cause like, it's not like this was a deadline game (where I'd understand the need to lynch someone in 48 hours) these dunderheaded buffoons killed me and shortened the day for no reason. Hell, most of them didn't even call me scum, they just said "well, we have to lynch SOMEONE" or said I annoyed them. I thought this was a good player list, and perhaps it is in some respects, but clearly I was wrong. The unsupported meta reads were the worst. Admittedly, I didn't have a lot of time to play in, but I used it well, and I put more effort in than like, 6 of the 8 other players. It's bad luck I happened to have my first two days at the new job yesterday and today; if this game had started earlier or later I'd have killed it. Even so, the deadline was extendable. Killing me was a moronic move and every town player who voted for me is a slovenly, disgusting, half-animate abortion who deserves the loss that they are now significantly more likely to incur without the best player there. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
I don't know who wrote that, but whoever they were was probably pretty skilled. Pretty good-looking, actually. I bet he's smart, handsome, and in general excellent. Probably a fast typist, and a good mafia player. I bet he makes decent money, too, and has to fend off the ladies with a stick. Just a thought. That guy is pretty cool and/or sexy, whoever he is. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On July 04 2015 11:01 Blazinghand wrote: I don't see any falsehoods in that quote...? I don't know who wrote that, but whoever they were was probably pretty skilled. Pretty good-looking, actually. I bet he's smart, handsome, and in general excellent. Probably a fast typist, and a good mafia player. I bet he makes decent money, too, and has to fend off the ladies with a stick. Just a thought. That guy is pretty cool and/or sexy, whoever he is. lol that big back bh that big back | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On July 04 2015 09:59 Breshke wrote: I feel like if you two were town you would have thought anyway though but it was still bad. Especially after ritoky asked me for my read on you two and i couldn't explain it AT ALL I would've pressured or asked rsoultin a question and probably backed off. I didn't this game because I chose to actually just try to erode town completely day 1. (also I knew no one would call me out) GB in particular was like the easiest target ever to sow chaos. Like you say anything to him and he just goes off, and his logic in general is very flaky so there are a lot of holes to attack. And there's no threat to his reads because they're generally all over the place, even if he's right he seems to be right by accident | ||
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NydusHerMain
Canada492 Posts
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
I mean that's not even considering that the cop made an associative play to try and trap another mafia with his red check and that guy the associated person flipped mafia. Not lynching the red check is inexcusable. | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On July 04 2015 13:15 ritoky wrote: You're in quadruple LYLO. A player is red checked by a confirmed cop. Lynch the red check. If there is a framer or he is a miller the game is already lost because in f3 you're probably lynching the red checked guy anyway. No point in leaving HF alive ever. I mean that's not even considering that the cop made an associative play to try and trap another mafia with his red check and that guy the associated person flipped mafia. Not lynching the red check is inexcusable. Moral of the story is always listen to onegu in lylo | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
DELETE Also, I've read criticism about my play and fakeclaims. I will talk about it just one more time. I didn't play optimally, yes. I've played badly in thread, probably yes. But I played optimally as town (convinced Mafia I wasn't blue/checked the right people - the green check on LS should be above any speculation on him, and the red check on HF talks about itself) The thing is that people called me Mafia for being bad/illogical. But being bad/illogical doesn't make anyone scum. My reads were all over the thread, and I changed stories accordingly to new things dropped in thread and NOT to fit thread sentiment. It's very hard for Mafia to do what I did with every information dropped in thread. Only Holyflare can be this carefree while posting as scum. Activity IS a town trait, and being carefree IS a general town trait. Holyflare is just the exception to the rule. Now, about fake claims: my fake claim on Mig was only revealed day2. Then I fake claim red check on Rsoultin and quickly withdrew. It means I fake claimed checks TWICE, not EVERYTIME as people are saying. Maybe claiming a red check on Rsoultin was silly but I stand to my point that the fake check on Mig was one of the best moves I will ever see in TL Mafia (yes, ego). But listen: no Mafia will fake claim a RED check. It's suicidal. They will go for the easy check. Especially me. I could have claimed being roleblocked or green checked Breshke before he died. Safest play. How would I know Holyflare is Miller if I was Mafia? But the clearest thing was the reaction from Holyflare and Mig. They BOTH doubted the claim TOGETHER. It doesn't make sense. See, if you're town and you see two red checks (one is indirect, but whatever) and one is on you, you may assume you're miller (or the indirect check is wifom) and you go against the other guy and try to defend yourself. If you're nafia and see a red check on a green, you go against that green too. The only way those two people go against the cop is when they are BOTH MAFIA TOGETHER. But people preferred to lynch me. I would blame me for being lynched day2, maybe even day1 (although I find stupid lynching big filters day), but day3 lynch is totally town's fault. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
Ordinarily I might agree that town did something dumb but given how little credence you had (and your own posts did not help at all) I don't blame people for wanting to lynch you. | ||
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justanothertownie
16318 Posts
On July 04 2015 10:35 Fidei86 wrote: @Onegu - do you not see that every game you pull that crap, you fuck town? Sure, you've solved both games you've been in that I've been in, but at the same time you've also never had enough cred to get your reads lynched. I'm urging you and begging you ... PLEASE stop. You're ruining games for people you're town with. Yep. It also doesn't take a genius to solve a game at LYLO as the go to lynchbait/mislynch player. That's a giant information advantage you have over townies that are actually towny. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
i actually had some good early reads with bugs and shockeyy being mafia but outside of that I didn't play great. mhmm yeh I think mafia played well, | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On July 04 2015 08:08 Fidei86 wrote: He was rude and obnoxious to me for about 10 pages of filter. you know he was mafia right and won the game? I think you need to grow a thicker skin and stop complaining about game length and people being rude. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
when you're a cop with a redcheck and you get lynched, you're doing/have done something horribly, horribly wrong (HF being fantastic not withstanding) when you know who the entire scumteam is and why and you get lynched, you're doing something horribly, horribly wrong (Onegu). Especially Onegu's reaction to the post-game is all wrong, his reaction shouldn't be "why didn't you listen to me scrubs" but "how can I be so fucking shit tier that I got lynched today" On July 04 2015 17:28 justanothertownie wrote: Yep. It also doesn't take a genius to solve a game at LYLO as the go to lynchbait/mislynch player. That's a giant information advantage you have over townies that are actually towny. Also I mentioned this earlier too, but especially this. HF literally had to be mafia from Onegu's POV. That's not skill, that's just that you're the scrub mafia decided they could lynch (and mafia were right) | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On July 04 2015 17:57 marvellosity wrote: there are many players who think their style is ok or good, and it just isn't. when you're a cop with a redcheck and you get lynched, you're doing/have done something horribly, horribly wrong (HF being fantastic not withstanding) when you know who the entire scumteam is and why and you get lynched, you're doing something horribly, horribly wrong (Onegu). Especially Onegu's reaction to the post-game is all wrong, his reaction shouldn't be "why didn't you listen to me scrubs" but "how can I be so fucking shit tier that I got lynched today" Also I mentioned this earlier too, but especially this. HF literally had to be mafia from Onegu's POV. That's not skill, that's just that you're the scrub mafia decided they could lynch (and mafia were right) it's probably quite tough to face off against hf "1v1 me bro" I mean hf was red checked...I still don't know what the fuck was happening with that, also didn't mig claim tracker to save hf? I don't know how hf didn't get lynched but hey, I died n1 so I can sit on my town throne and throw shit. But anyway I don't think onegu had a perfectly townie track record for the game and in that situation, going againt hf, with people like LS in the town it was pretty tough for him. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On July 04 2015 17:57 marvellosity wrote: there are many players who think their style is ok or good, and it just isn't. when you're a cop with a redcheck and you get lynched, you're doing/have done something horribly, horribly wrong (HF being fantastic not withstanding) when you know who the entire scumteam is and why and you get lynched, you're doing something horribly, horribly wrong (Onegu). Especially Onegu's reaction to the post-game is all wrong, his reaction shouldn't be "why didn't you listen to me scrubs" but "how can I be so fucking shit tier that I got lynched today" Also I mentioned this earlier too, but especially this. HF literally had to be mafia from Onegu's POV. That's not skill, that's just that you're the scrub mafia decided they could lynch (and mafia were right) I know I didn't play optimally but I don't see how my play is scummy. Maybe you could show me what I did that was terribly, terribly wrong. Damdred had me as town, Rsoultin had me as town. Are they average or good for realising that? People that mislynched me, are they bad or average? It's easy to see it objectively and make this rule "if you claimed cop and had a red check, AND got lynched, you did something terribly wrong", but looking at circumstances, it doesn't work this way - in other words, I was mislynched because town didn't consolidate. Just look at he day3 vote count. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On July 04 2015 14:30 Holyflare wrote: yeh that qt post was retarded gb since if i was town of course i'm going to attack you for fake caiming a red check on me anyway so of course i'm going to doubt the claim and if mig ends up being mafia and being lynched with a fake claim ready he's going to attack your claim too regardless of my alignment since it would set up a further mislynch You know that this isn't what would happen because there could be a miller in the game and I faked a red check on Rsoultin and the reaction she had wasn't this one, so no | ||
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