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Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 30 2015 17:23 GMT
#4601
Also, for the post-game cred, I'm going to go for the scum team of HF, Damdred and Shockkey. Rsoult had Ruxx rather than Damdred as the fourth scum, but I'm seeing a Damdred deflect of HF combined with his generally shoddy play this game (in contrast to last game, where he was really strong).
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 30 2015 17:24 GMT
#4602
On July 01 2015 02:22 Fidei86 wrote:
We could get five, because scum HF likely sheeps town if we can get four townies together.


We literally need it to be unanimous because if LS is town and onegu is town, we lost already.

Unvote
##Vote: Shockey
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 30 2015 17:27 GMT
#4603
On July 01 2015 02:23 Fidei86 wrote:
Also, for the post-game cred, I'm going to go for the scum team of HF, Damdred and Shockkey. Rsoult had Ruxx rather than Damdred as the fourth scum, but I'm seeing a Damdred deflect of HF combined with his generally shoddy play this game (in contrast to last game, where he was really strong).


This is my post-game cred for today if we don't lose (yes I know I called HF town). Watch LS + HF be mafia.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 30 2015 17:29 GMT
#4604
I'm also good with a shockey lynch, but I really want to pressure onegu into defending himself.
Seems like that's not going to happen with current thread sentiment.

I'm going out a little bit.
I'll be back in a couple hours.

If onegu hasn't showed up by then and people still want to lynch shockey I'll join in.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 30 2015 17:29 GMT
#4605
BTW if Shockey flips town and HF flips scum, you are all going to feel sooooo stupid that you let him argue you out of a red check.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 30 2015 17:30 GMT
#4606
On July 01 2015 02:27 NydusHerMain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 02:23 Fidei86 wrote:
Also, for the post-game cred, I'm going to go for the scum team of HF, Damdred and Shockkey. Rsoult had Ruxx rather than Damdred as the fourth scum, but I'm seeing a Damdred deflect of HF combined with his generally shoddy play this game (in contrast to last game, where he was really strong).


This is my post-game cred for today if we don't lose (yes I know I called HF town). Watch LS + HF be mafia.

I wont flip scum I promise you that.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 30 2015 17:31 GMT
#4607
On July 01 2015 02:17 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 02:12 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 01 2015 02:06 ruXxar wrote:
On July 01 2015 01:38 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I think maybe our best lynch is to lynch Shockeyy and here's why: Onegu is known to be terrible as town and his tunnel on me is kinda like he did in Assassination where I lynched him out of spite if I recalled correctly. Also I think it was Rux who made a case on Shockeyy which pretty much summed up what I been saying a little about Shockeyy. Even though Shockeyy had posted more this game than all his games in the database this is also a very large post number game so it could be inflated because of it. Also since all of the people who were night killed did scumread Shockeyy that could be a reason as to why they were killed other than VA being the claimed Jailkeeper(Like seriously why did scum decided to kill Rsoultin over a claimed Jailkeeper that was bad play by scum seriously -_-). I will lay my hammer on Shockeyy today.
##Vote: ShoCkeyy


I don't like the fact that you're basing your townread on onegu off meta.
I tried using that approach in my last game and it only ended up shooting me in the foot.

I'd rather lynch onegu than shockey at this point, but I feel better about a shockey lynch than a HF lynch.
At least shockey showed up at said a couple words, even though I find it lackluster.

I want onegu to show up and defend himself so that I'll get convinced that he's a worse lynch than Shockey.
If he doesn't show up I'll take that as an admission of guilt and hope to vote him out as #1 scum.

Why don't you join me in pressuring onegu to defend himself?

I not really town reading I was just saying what I remember based both reputation and past games I had played with him.


And maybe he's using this tactic again to make you think he's town?
I mean, if you are mafia, what are the first thing you will try to do? You will try to play the same was as you did when you were town. So people will think, oh he played this way when he was town, now he's playing the same way == he must be town!.
This is like the most basic way and easiest trick for mafia to look like town, and is why I don't like using meta for things like this.

You can't just say "Oh he played terrible in this other game, it's fine that he's playing terrible here too!". NO
It's not fine to play terrible here even if you played terrible as town in another game.
You need to step up and do your best.
If you're not trying to help town win then I don't care about how towny your meta makes you look.

You're playing anti-town and you're not helping us win!

Again I don't think he's exactly town but he a pretty capable scum player though so(Shrugs).
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 30 2015 17:31 GMT
#4608
So everyone knows, rsoult was utterly convinced that LS would flip town. I see no reason to question her conclusion, given she is a far better player than I am.
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 30 2015 17:31 GMT
#4609
On July 01 2015 02:29 Fidei86 wrote:
BTW if Shockey flips town and HF flips scum, you are all going to feel sooooo stupid that you let him argue you out of a red check.


yeah......... but I'd feel even worse if HF is town because he's trying soooooooooooo hard.
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 30 2015 17:31 GMT
#4610
On July 01 2015 02:23 Fidei86 wrote:
Also, for the post-game cred, I'm going to go for the scum team of HF, Damdred and Shockkey. Rsoult had Ruxx rather than Damdred as the fourth scum, but I'm seeing a Damdred deflect of HF combined with his generally shoddy play this game (in contrast to last game, where he was really strong).


Near EoD, can you give a final lynch list? Assuming that list may or may not change.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 30 2015 17:31 GMT
#4611
fuck off seriously

i'm still not mafia and you can yell about the red check all you want but it doesn't change a single fact about how i have played this game and you are just wrong, i have literally no idea why you're all gloaty saying things "oh post game cred!" when you are literally playing abysmally because ALL you are doing is focusing on the red check, you will get 0 credit for me flipping town and instead get a massive MASSIVE wall of text lecture about how you should read the player for yourself instead of basing it on statistics and wifom and a red check

Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 30 2015 17:32 GMT
#4612
So basically I'm at:

Town:
Ruxx
LS
Me

Scum:
HF
Shock

Meh:
Damdred
Onegu

I'm going with Damdred over Onegu because Onegu is useless in every game, whereas Damdred was specifically very helpful in his last game, and has been rubbish in this game.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 30 2015 17:32 GMT
#4613
On July 01 2015 02:29 Fidei86 wrote:
BTW if Shockey flips town and HF flips scum, you are all going to feel sooooo stupid that you let him argue you out of a red check.

If Shockeyy flips scum we can still possibly lynch him later but not today.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 30 2015 17:33 GMT
#4614
On July 01 2015 02:32 Fidei86 wrote:
So basically I'm at:

Town:
Ruxx
LS
Me

Scum:
HF
Shock

Meh:
Damdred
Onegu

I'm going with Damdred over Onegu because Onegu is useless in every game, whereas Damdred was specifically very helpful in his last game, and has been rubbish in this game.


*cough* T.T *cries*
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 30 2015 17:35 GMT
#4615
like seriously i've put in a solid like 4 cycle game where i've been trying to solve it at every single juncture and you're being a prick and going "lalalalalala don't care red check", you know how fucking mad that makes me? i'm the towniest guy in this game WITH a red check and everyone is calling me town and you don't give a shit because your 2-3 game knowledge of mafia suddenly makes you superior than the ~20 players in this game that know me far better? i even took a day off work just so i could make cases on gb so that you would lynch him after my flip, no way i am that dedicated as mafia
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 30 2015 17:35 GMT
#4616
On July 01 2015 02:33 NydusHerMain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 02:32 Fidei86 wrote:
So basically I'm at:

Town:
Ruxx
LS
Me

Scum:
HF
Shock

Meh:
Damdred
Onegu

I'm going with Damdred over Onegu because Onegu is useless in every game, whereas Damdred was specifically very helpful in his last game, and has been rubbish in this game.


*cough* T.T *cries*

He just pretty much said you don't exist lol.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 30 2015 17:36 GMT
#4617
Lol, good job on losing the game. You're willing to lynch some one that has actually been active in the game and scum hunting than some one that is just saying almost nothing or even trying to defend himself (onegu).
Life?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 30 2015 17:37 GMT
#4618
@HF - You say I've played badly this game. I agree. I was not prepared for the massive difference in volume of posts between a 13 player and a 17 player game.

So all I have to rely on is this - with 13 town at the start the odds of you being picked out as the miller are 1/13. Even now, and assuming there is a miller, they are still 1/4. Furthermore, the odds of there both being a framer, and they having framed you on that night, are surely much lower. than 1/4. Therefore, to my mind, the statistics say that you're mafia.

Given that I don't really have any good reads on anybody, I see no reason to colour the raw statistics with my own personal bias.

You don't have to like it, but there are my reasons. I won't be saying them again, as clearly there is no point in reasoning with you either way.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 30 2015 17:39 GMT
#4619
On July 01 2015 02:33 NydusHerMain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 02:32 Fidei86 wrote:
So basically I'm at:

Town:
Ruxx
LS
Me

Scum:
HF
Shock

Meh:
Damdred
Onegu

I'm going with Damdred over Onegu because Onegu is useless in every game, whereas Damdred was specifically very helpful in his last game, and has been rubbish in this game.


*cough* T.T *cries*


Haha. I got the numbers wrong *facepalm*

I think NHM is town, because of the early game. Totally different to HG. Worthy of a win if it turns out you're actually scum.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 30 2015 17:39 GMT
#4620
On July 01 2015 02:37 Fidei86 wrote:
@HF - You say I've played badly this game. I agree. I was not prepared for the massive difference in volume of posts between a 13 player and a 17 player game.

So all I have to rely on is this - with 13 town at the start the odds of you being picked out as the miller are 1/13. Even now, and assuming there is a miller, they are still 1/4. Furthermore, the odds of there both being a framer, and they having framed you on that night, are surely much lower. than 1/4. Therefore, to my mind, the statistics say that you're mafia.

Given that I don't really have any good reads on anybody, I see no reason to colour the raw statistics with my own personal bias.

You don't have to like it, but there are my reasons. I won't be saying them again, as clearly there is no point in reasoning with you either way.


q3
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STOP FUCKING USING STATISTICS JESUS FUCK EVEN THEN A 1/4 CHANCE OF ME BEING MILLER IS HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGEEEEE 25% is insanely likely in mafia???????????????

if there's a 25% chance i'm miller and i'm playing so super towny and the other 3 people you think are scummy, why the fuck would you rely on the statistics!?!?!??!?!?!? IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL SO STOP DOING IT




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read the game

read day 2

don't throw the game because you rely on shit statistics because you don't know better
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