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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 20 2015 14:53 GMT
#2761
On June 20 2015 23:22 ShoCkeyy wrote:
ruxxar, welcome.


Thank you!

I will look into lohengram next.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 20 2015 14:59 GMT
#2762
On June 20 2015 16:03 ritoky wrote:
how is his approach to you townie GB? he was talking to you like he knew 100% you were confirmed town...

and then he promised a buncha shit and didn't deliver....that's not particular townie.


What are you talking about? Can you please show me where I promised a bunch of stuff? I said I'm re-reading thread and have time to post afterwards, which is what I'm doing here now. Finished reading thread and now I have time to sit and start discussing who is scum for D2 lynch.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 20 2015 15:37 GMT
#2763
1. I still think LS is scum, his pay is just bad in general.

On June 20 2015 16:18 GlowingBear wrote:
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On June 20 2015 16:05 ritoky wrote:
On June 20 2015 15:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Well, I'm town. He sees two town wagons. He decides to lynch boxer. Why not taking the easier path and lynching me, who he brought more suspicions before?
I think it would fit better a mafia mindset of survivability if he just lynched me. Nobody would be questioning him today. Why drawing so much attention as mafia?


On June 20 2015 15:14 ritoky wrote:
cuz if mig is mafia and it is 2 town wagons, there's no reason to flip his read and draw suspicion on himself by lynching the person he wasn't scum reading all phase. that would mean GB almost MUST be mafia with mig and he voted to keep a teammate alive.



Yeah, I saw this after I posted. That's why I'm townreading him now

To be fair, I think mafia could've let me alive so they could mislynch me today, and that is what I thought Mig did when he voted boxerfred. But seeing that he ACTUALLY had suspicions on boxerfred, his vote made sense to me and this came clear to my mind.

About Shockey. Yeah, he talked to me like I was town. But he did vote someone else right? Maybe he had a townread on me?
Although he did vote me, putting me in majority...

Maybe I'm flattered . I promise to filter dive him tomorrow as soon as I wake up to get a better read.

2. GB please do so and while you're at it, can you at least answer my questions in my filter? I gave you the benefit of the doubt in terms of the vote switch.

On June 20 2015 01:30 GlowingBear wrote:
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On June 20 2015 01:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Just wanted to throw this out there, GB you've been saying I'm scum since the beginning in like in every game we have played together, you constantly attack me just cause. You don't even have a real reason as to why I am scum this game, you just say I am.

Now I want you to think about the logic behind my vote switch. You say that the game is based on the biggest filter which I repeatedly asked you to give me a good explanation here and quite multiple times.

"Did you ever read my filter? And why do you base games on largest filters? I don't get it, I have a small filter and I'm pro town. How does a large filter benefit town when trying to make cases on scum?"

Which you some what answered here, but I'm expecting something different out of you:
On June 19 2015 13:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 19 2015 09:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 19 2015 09:52 rsoultin wrote:
On June 19 2015 09:44 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 19 2015 09:40 Fidei86 wrote:
WBG, I'm going to hit you with some LOGIC right now.

If you're town, some of the people who are disagreeing with you KNOW you're wrong/right (because they're mafia!) and therefore their responses to your thoughts may well make no sense. The people you DO want to work with you (ie the town) are probably not going to appreciate being called dullards, so you just lost influence with them.

Obviously if you're mafia then w/e.

In summary - if you're town, don't say shit like that. Otherwise, people might start thinking you're mafia.


I honestly don't care if some people think I am mafia. If they are town and they want to think that they are in some bizarro world they can, but they aren't doing themselves or the rest of the team any favours in doing so.

Right now I'm pretty annoyed with the game given that I basically posted constantly and gave the best effort I could possibly give to get GB lynched and yet we lost at the end because of people like Shockeyy and Onegu who did absolutely nothing all game and yet had the greatest influence over the lynch in the end.

The best part about all of this is that we have people like rsoultin who are fairly likely to be town at the end of it all complaining about the thread being hard or too long to read when they have the largest filters in the game, and yet having literally 0 scumreads over a space of 48 hours.


while i work with the more than 0 scumreads i already gave you almighty amazing reader misrepresenting me so awesomely right now, do you mind attempting to reapproach the game from the perspective that you might actually be mistaken on gb, or is that a futile request for me to make, even as a hypothetical exercise?


I already did that and the game actually doesn't make sense from that perspective

why the fuck would multiple people hammer BF right at the end with no explanation whatsoever if there were two townies up for lynch? The case on GB was far stronger than the one on BF and pretty much the only person that disagreed with that was you. In fact, even some people who supposedly agreed with the GB case, e.g. Shockeyy and Mig voted BF instead of GB, while our troll friend ritoky over here ended up kindly wasting his vote completely.

I want to give yamato the benefit of the doubt that he legitimately just forgot to vote or whatever but that lack of vote is also really damning for him given that he also found GB scummy prior to the lynch. Whatever though, I hate replacements and given his posting style and comments this game he's probably not scum anyway.


You will ALWAYS be able to build bigger and more comprehensive cases on people that have 10x the pages of a second scum read.

You're basically saying I'm Mafia with Shockey and Onegu out of bad unflipped association


I need you to realize, I had the voting power to either lynch you or BF. I lynched BF because I based my response out of your stupid thought of having the biggest filter to not lynch D1 and his slight scum posts but what happened? We lynched a town, if you were pro town, why did you switch to me, the "new" lynch train? Why didn't you just stay on LS or switch to BF from the get go? Why were you second guessing who to vote? As soon as I voted you, you instantly switched to me, then I switch off you switched off.

On June 19 2015 13:52 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 19 2015 09:27 Fidei86 wrote:
WOWWW that last post of mine was crap. I should probably persevere and actually try and finish the filter dive. BRB.


THIS post was crap. Why are you second guessing your own posts and posting this to tell us you're going to keep filter diving?


Because you already have the biggest filter in the game. We lynched the smallest, now we should lynch the biggest if that's the logic you play by. Are you going to keep creating posts to build your filter to make it harder to scum read you?

On June 19 2015 02:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On June 19 2015 01:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 19 2015 01:50 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On June 18 2015 14:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On June 18 2015 14:22 ritoky wrote:
On June 18 2015 14:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On June 18 2015 14:15 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not asking why you're scumreading lightningstrike shockey

i'm asking you why he is your top scumread...though perhaps the better way to phrase it is if he suddenly dropped dead, who else are you willing to lynch?

your only purpose for quoting those was to say nhm was town...multiple times? okay i guess lol ><


In all honesty? You, but you still haven't given me a valid reason to call you scum and my current scum radar is going off on LS. And if you read my post you would see why he's my top scum read.

And as mentioned I haven't fully looked into boxerfred yet. I've only read what holyflare has mentioned about him.


that's cool. you once made a terrible list post a couple hours into the day and it was terrible. can you do that again but make it less terrible this time? thanks.


I will post my list in the morning. Going to let the posts rack up a bit more. I want to see others thoughts before I finalize it for day 1.


town:
nhm - nhm's posting just reads town motivated, but he probably will drop to town lean due to his inactivity.
ritoky - I like your posting style from the start, it probably rubs off the wrong way to certain people, but I found it easy to be able to communicate with you

town lean:
breshke - He really comes off as my highest town lean atm, his posting is like the game before and he was town with me.
damdred - my reasons before.
rsoul - her post below put her into the town lean last night. Still wary because she talks about LS as if he can't be scum.

scum lean:
LS - Read filter, I gave quite a few good points on him.
bugs - His case will come afterwards, but his protection of LS just seems weird
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On June 18 2015 22:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
I see I have been ninjaed.

Re: LS, I didn't defend LS prior to the claim because I myself was unsure of his alignment at that point. To me he seemed townish but my reasons were not very well qualified and it was mostly on the basis of him not acting in a very similar way to how he did in the last game where he was scum and we got him killed day 1. Indeed here his defense is a lot more passioned whereas in the previous game and in all the other scum games I read in which he got lynched he more or less rolled over and died.

The claim however pretty much instantly erased any doubts I had and that's when I chose to defend him because I knee jubjubs and scum would jump all over that shit to call him scum. The two worst responses IMO were yours and GB, and to a lesser extent Onegu whose only listed reason for voting was policy. IMO people who do not view that claim as a townish thing to do are either mafia or bad, and I really prefer not to assume someone is bad town when they have demonstrated some capability of thinking analytically.

GB's reaction to the claim was really terrible. He flipped his read on LS completely which is not what I would expect town to do simply on the basis of a claim. It also appeared very opportunistic because as soon as I showed resistance he backed off, and curiously tried to get my opinion on another low-hanging-fruit of a player, VA.

What's interesting to me here is that the more that I think on kt and write it out the more I find GB scummy than anyone else. Anyone else down to kill him today?

I'm down, what's weird is that you talk about GB being weird for jumping off the LS train, but you're pretty much also doing the same thing, but with a lot more content to it...

lohen - based on thread and points brought up on him. He's new to the game, but still hasn't really posted much...

On June 18 2015 14:37 ritoky wrote:
On June 18 2015 14:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Alright chops 4, btw what did you think of my push against LS and his responses to me? Also thoughts on rsoul?


I agree with your points but not necessarily your conclusion. Because you seem to not regard the fact that he has done stupid claim shit like this as town on day 1 under no lynch pressure before. Your points aren't wrong, those are anti-town things and his responses to you are bleh at best.

I learned from a recent Obs game that rsoul is an easy read for me in the late game. The problem is she shoots me as scum early in games and I shoot her as scum early in games so neither one of us ever gets there is we are opposing alignments. She is town for now cuz she seems interested in solving the game; will re-evaluate later. Except I expect after my outburst I am gonna get the HF treatment tonight.


But what makes it the same as his previous claims? And I mentioned to him that it's easy to change meta, what are your thoughts on that?

On June 18 2015 14:40 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 18 2015 14:38 ShoCkeyy wrote:
GB give me your real thoughts on myself and LS, also what did you think of my push against LS? you were one of the few that I quoted.


I don't remember it.

I'll need to read your filter again.

I think you're scum based on imperfect meta. I remember being on your skin last game and you kept being very... how could I say... cool headed?
And I'm not actually seeing this here.

LS has 8 pages of filter and I'm not lynching anyone like that day1


Did you ever read my filter? And why do you base games on largest filters? I don't get it, I have a small filter and I'm pro town. How does a large filter benefit town when trying to make cases on scum?

On June 18 2015 14:32 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2015 14:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On June 18 2015 14:15 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not asking why you're scumreading lightningstrike shockey

i'm asking you why he is your top scumread...though perhaps the better way to phrase it is if he suddenly dropped dead, who else are you willing to lynch?

your only purpose for quoting those was to say nhm was town...multiple times? okay i guess lol ><


In all honesty? You, but you still haven't given me a valid reason to call you scum and my current scum radar is going off on LS. And if you read my post you would see why he's my top scum read.

And as mentioned I haven't fully looked into boxerfred yet. I've only read what holyflare has mentioned about him.


oh i actually thought this was directed at rit lol ><

dude, you're going to have to get over the fact that i'm ridiculously involved in threads. there's a method to the madness, and maybe it's not the best for town i'll admit but it somehow works best for me and regardless scum kills me frequently enough that apparently they don't like it either

not really gonna change just cause people disapprove (especially since i doubt i can xP)

if you read my filter, really read it, you will find what everyone finds and namely that is there's a ton more content than meets the eye if all you've got is me and ls that's bad for you cause you're probably not lynching scum lol


Bolded the necessary points so you can start understanding.


Haven't read you filter yet

I base day1 on biggest filters, not the whole game


What? Why? I based my day 1 on whole thread and the interactions that happen between players. How can you see what's going on if you're only doing the biggest filters.


You can keep thinking i'm scum, but if you are really town, I need you to realize I lynched the one that really seemed scummier to me. Either we work together and really find scum or you keep on with your ignorance of me since the first game we played together.

Now back to re-reading thread and follow up since I have the time to do so atm.


Wow.
This post is so townie it hurts.

Alright, I've calling you scum out of tone and imperfect meta. I'll take a step back and assume you can be town, since now I am very inclined to lynch other people I don't really want to fully disclose now.


Can you disclose it soon? We're close to a d2 lynch and would like to see your thoughts before we mislynch again...
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 20 2015 15:46 GMT
#2764
On June 20 2015 23:31 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh he's bad. Shockey tell me what you think of gb at moment since you post like he's a town read but don't really talk about the lynch yesterday at all?


plz just do this again in like a small bullet pointed summary

why did you think gb was town, more so than bf?
did you read the points everyone was bringing up on gb?
what do you think happened at the end of the day at lynch time?
do you still think gb is town?
if you think gb is town then who do you actually think is mafia?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 20 2015 15:47 GMT
#2765
So as I was reading thread and trying to figure out why KSC was lynched night one, I saw who he was bringing up as his scum reads:

On June 17 2015 21:32 KelsierSC wrote:
So I'm going to give where I'm at in the game so far.

Town

Damdred - I liked his posting and the tone he used for his explanation of LS felt good. I think his response to shockey was pretty towny aswell

Nydus - I've liked his posting and his activity. we haven't played together but he feels like town

GB - he's kind of been doing his own shit but I think he's been around for most of the important points and he's been explaining some of his reasoning e.g why he thought i might be mafia, he went and looked at his own read of onegu and went back on it which felt town.

Ritoky - Made me laugh a few times, been jokey but has been giving input aswell. His point on GB and Damdred was kind of stupid but it felt like he was trying to figure some stuff out.

hf - CONFIRMED TOWN. no in all seriousness when he just voted BM I just thought it would be interesting to see what happened so I went along with it. After reading the thread I liked his posting with regards to bugs and rsoul, I also think the reason for voting BM is actually good.

Scum

LS - tried to spam early literally responding to every joke/picture and then asking questions which in my opinion didn't lead anywhere. It felt like he was trying to mimic town...rather than actually helping town. giving defenses of people and posting old games. I didn't feel this was helping town at all.
I think his early "derp" was quite telling, it showed he just wanted to post rather than think about his posting.
His slip just now with regards to shockey is telling. He said his content was "okay" despite the fact the content was terrible and shockey's scum read was LS himself.
The reasoning for it was poor, but LS said he felt the reason was genuine...but he felt the reason was poor?? this makes no sense. I actually think that LS just straight didn't read shockey and called him town because..he knew he was town? or shockey is a partner?

Shockey - terrible early list post with shit reasons, didn't read damdred properly and when he got pinged he tried to go at damdred..it felt like an aggressive reaction when you just fucked up. a lot his posting just felt like backtracking.

Bugs - early posts were awful, I highlighted this. He's just a massive twat so his fighting doesn't change my opinion of his alignment, when he posts something else then I can look again but for now he is scum.

BM - Hf reason is good

Outside of that there are a few people that I don't know about yet and i'm reading through again.

Feel free to ask questions.


He lists LS, myself, bugs and who is yamato now. Now I still have my suspicions of LS, but KSC had his through out the whole day 1. He also had his suspicions on Yamato who so happens to be MIA but then KSC is dead N1.

On June 20 2015 02:30 KelsierSC wrote:
this is how shit looked before the GB stuff started.

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On June 18 2015 23:34 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count


boxerfred (7): Holyflare, GlowingBear, Breshke, rsoultin, LightningStrike, Fidei86, Damdred
LightningStrike (3): KelsierSC, Onegu, GlowingBear, KelsierSC, ShoCkeyy
ShoCkeyy (1): NydusHerMain, NydusHerMain, LightningStrike, KelsierSC
Holyflare (1): boxerfred
Lohengramm (1): VayneAuthority
GlowingBear (1): wherebugsgo
KelsierSC (0): wherebugsgo
rsoultin (0): wherebugsgo, VayneAuthority, GlowingBear, Holyflare
Onegu (0): NydusHerMain
wherebugsgo (0): KelsierSC
Mig (0): wherebugsgo

Not voted (3): Lohengramm, ritoky, Mig

Clinging to the ledge, boxerfred hangs over the abyss.
Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here.

Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.


we know bf is town.

let's say GB is mafia
it instantly clears bugs, VA, LS and hf.
hf would have no reason to switch from town to his mafia buddy, nor LS , bugs went crazy on him and VA provided the meta case.

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On June 19 2015 03:57 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count


boxerfred (6): Holyflare, GlowingBear, Breshke, rsoultin, LightningStrike, Fidei86, Damdred
GlowingBear (4): wherebugsgo, KelsierSC, VayneAuthority, LightningStrike
LightningStrike (2): KelsierSC, Onegu, GlowingBear, KelsierSC, ShoCkeyy
Holyflare (1): boxerfred
Onegu (1): NydusHerMain, NydusHerMain
Lohengramm (0): VayneAuthority
ShoCkeyy (0): NydusHerMain, NydusHerMain, LightningStrike, KelsierSC
KelsierSC (0): wherebugsgo
rsoultin (0): wherebugsgo, VayneAuthority, GlowingBear, Holyflare
wherebugsgo (0): KelsierSC
Mig (0): wherebugsgo

Not voted (3): Lohengramm, ritoky, Mig

Clinging to the ledge, boxerfred hangs over the abyss.
Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here.

Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.


so mafia probably can't let a man go down and have a whole bunch of confirmed town so bf needs to die.

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On June 19 2015 04:12 NydusHerMain wrote:
I won't be able to make a case on onegu in enough time but I think gb is townier than bf

##Vote: boxerfred


doesn't look great for you, but I think this is consistent with his logic and nydus feels town

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On June 19 2015 05:28 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count


boxerfred (6): Holyflare, GlowingBear, Breshke, rsoultin, LightningStrike, Fidei86, Damdred, NydusHerMain
GlowingBear (5): wherebugsgo, KelsierSC, VayneAuthority, LightningStrike, Holyflare, KelsierSC
LightningStrike (2): KelsierSC, Onegu, GlowingBear, KelsierSC, ShoCkeyy, KelsierSC
Holyflare (1): boxerfred
Onegu (0): NydusHerMain, NydusHerMain
Lohengramm (0): VayneAuthority
ShoCkeyy (0): NydusHerMain, NydusHerMain, LightningStrike, KelsierSC
KelsierSC (0): wherebugsgo
rsoultin (0): wherebugsgo, VayneAuthority, GlowingBear, Holyflare
wherebugsgo (0): KelsierSC
Mig (0): wherebugsgo

Not voted (3): Lohengramm, ritoky, Mig

Clinging to the ledge, boxerfred hangs over the abyss.
Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here.

Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.


we reach this point with things looking bad for mafia

in this time we get some interesting votes

yamato does apparently vote for boxer but it doesnt go through
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On June 19 2015 04:30 Lohengramm wrote:
I'm going to continue to smurf for filter purposes, and because this account's name is fucking awesome. But yes, I am Yamato.

I will read filters until deadline. BF I have already read but if he's posted anything new I will give my thoughts. I will read LS closer but I really don't think he's mafia at all. As said before, I have a vague suspicion of GB but I admittedly only read like 10 pages.

For now, so I don't get modkilled after replacing in;

##Vote: boxerfred


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On June 19 2015 06:46 Onegu wrote:
##Unvote

##Vote: Boxerfred




I think if GB is mafia then this is highly suspicous.

Fide pokes his head into to say why he won't vote GB

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On June 19 2015 05:24 Fidei86 wrote:
@Kel I'm around, keeping tabs on the thread while I'm at work. For what it's worth, and it's probably not much, I agree with GB's sentiment here. A d1 lynch is pretty unlikely to succeed. In the last game I was in (HG) the top three wagons on d1 were all town. This game has been 20 times less likely to actually find a scum imo, given that we're almost at ninety pages after 2 days. PSA: People, your spam and OMGUS'ing is not helpful. You make it super easy for mafia just to blend in to the noise, and you make it super hard for townies (like me) to actually engage with what's going on. If you have a case, please MAKE IT, then let other people actually read it. Don't just keep spamming back and forth. If you're town, you're NEVER going to convince a mafia that they are mafia - they'll keep protesting their innocence until they are lynched. Same if they're town. The people you have to convince is everyone else, and frankly I'm just kind of turned off by all this.

So, back to GB - he's posting, people can get reads on him, and those reads will only get stronger and more accurate over time. Worst case if we don't lynch him is that he's mafia and we catch him later. However, if we do lynch him, we're missing the opportunity to lynch a scummy lurker. If you let the lurkers live, they just turn the later days into a coinflip for active town.


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On June 19 2015 05:44 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count


boxerfred (6): Holyflare, GlowingBear, Breshke, rsoultin, LightningStrike, Fidei86, Damdred, NydusHerMain
GlowingBear (5): wherebugsgo, KelsierSC, VayneAuthority, LightningStrike, Holyflare, KelsierSC
LightningStrike (2): KelsierSC, Onegu, GlowingBear, KelsierSC, ShoCkeyy, KelsierSC
Holyflare (1): boxerfred
Onegu (0): NydusHerMain, NydusHerMain
Lohengramm (0): VayneAuthority
ShoCkeyy (0): NydusHerMain, NydusHerMain, LightningStrike, KelsierSC
KelsierSC (0): wherebugsgo
rsoultin (0): wherebugsgo, VayneAuthority, GlowingBear, Holyflare
wherebugsgo (0): KelsierSC
Mig (0): wherebugsgo

Not voted (3): Lohengramm, ritoky, Mig

Clinging to the ledge, boxerfred hangs over the abyss.
Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here.

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we are around this point just before migs vote

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On June 19 2015 06:49 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count


GlowingBear (6): wherebugsgo, KelsierSC, VayneAuthority, LightningStrike, Holyflare, KelsierSC, boxerfred, ShoCkeyy
boxerfred (6): Holyflare, GlowingBear, Breshke, rsoultin, LightningStrike, Fidei86, Damdred, NydusHerMain, Onegu
ShoCkeyy (3): NydusHerMain, NydusHerMain, LightningStrike, KelsierSC, KelsierSC, GlowingBear, ritoky
LightningStrike (0): KelsierSC, Onegu, GlowingBear, KelsierSC, ShoCkeyy, KelsierSC
Holyflare (0): boxerfred
Onegu (0): NydusHerMain, NydusHerMain
Lohengramm (0): VayneAuthority
KelsierSC (0): wherebugsgo
rsoultin (0): wherebugsgo, VayneAuthority, GlowingBear, Holyflare
wherebugsgo (0): KelsierSC
Mig (0): wherebugsgo

Not voted (2): Lohengramm, Mig

Clinging to the ledge, GlowingBear hangs over the abyss.
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at this point we get interesting things happening.

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On June 19 2015 06:52 Breshke wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Glowingbear

breshke with the potential god tier switch

sudden response.

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On June 19 2015 06:53 Mig wrote:
##vote boxer


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On June 19 2015 06:54 ShoCkeyy wrote:
##unvote
##vote Boxerfred


so in the palce where GB is mafia I think the best place to look is onegu, ShoCkeyy, Mig, Fide and yamato

note that shockkey talks about controlling the lynch but at the time he voted for glowing bear, yamato and mig had not voted so mafia would still be in control of the lynch. if they were mafia..

i will next see how it looks if GB is town and then draw conclusions


In all honesty, I would continue to push LS because his filter is just bad, but that won't go well with other townies for their reasons, but I rather push for Yamato who at the moment looks the scummiest this whole game. Especially with KSC dead and him bringing minor accusations to him.
Life?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 20 2015 15:51 GMT
#2766
In all honesty, I would continue to push LS because his filter is just bad, but that won't go well with other townies for their reasons

tell me the reasons and why you're scared to push it against people??? why would you care what other people think of you if you think a guy is mafia?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 20 2015 15:52 GMT
#2767
On June 21 2015 00:46 Holyflare wrote:
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On June 20 2015 23:31 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh he's bad. Shockey tell me what you think of gb at moment since you post like he's a town read but don't really talk about the lynch yesterday at all?


plz just do this again in like a small bullet pointed summary

why did you think gb was town, more so than bf?
did you read the points everyone was bringing up on gb?
what do you think happened at the end of the day at lynch time?
do you still think gb is town?
if you think gb is town then who do you actually think is mafia?


1) I associated his way of playing the game which is basing it on the biggest filter - didn't work out too well
2) Of course, I contributed to the points and showed case his previous scum game - in all honesty, I feel like his meta switched as soon as we brought up how he caps & spams when he's scum and people are accusing him.
3) read 1
4) GB is still in the null for me, it's really a coin flip for me atm. He can seriously be slow at trying to find scum or he's scum and prolonging his life
5) I feel like Yamato is more scum than GB at this moment.
Life?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 20 2015 15:54 GMT
#2768
what do you mean in point 1? don't quite understand it, you didn't think he was mafia because he had a big filter? is that the only reason?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 20 2015 15:54 GMT
#2769
On June 21 2015 00:51 Holyflare wrote:
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In all honesty, I would continue to push LS because his filter is just bad, but that won't go well with other townies for their reasons

tell me the reasons and why you're scared to push it against people??? why would you care what other people think of you if you think a guy is mafia?


Because half the town thinks the guy is town, he would have to survive to D3 for people to really consider him scum. And all he is doing is helping me build my case for him D3 lynch.
Life?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 20 2015 15:58 GMT
#2770
On June 21 2015 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
what do you mean in point 1? don't quite understand it, you didn't think he was mafia because he had a big filter? is that the only reason?


No, I never said I didn't think he was mafia when I vote switched. I gave him the benefit of the doubt due to meta. He himself claims that he doesn't like lynching the biggest filters on D1. So I tried what he normally does and it didn't work out well...
Life?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 20 2015 16:02 GMT
#2771
On June 21 2015 00:58 ShoCkeyy wrote:
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On June 21 2015 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
what do you mean in point 1? don't quite understand it, you didn't think he was mafia because he had a big filter? is that the only reason?


No, I never said I didn't think he was mafia when I vote switched. I gave him the benefit of the doubt due to meta. He himself claims that he doesn't like lynching the biggest filters on D1. So I tried what he normally does and it didn't work out well...


umm earlier you had a completely different reason for switching?

On June 19 2015 09:26 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Sorry guys, was driving/eating dinner, going to catch up. I saw BF flipped town. So brings me back to this:

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On June 19 2015 06:27 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Ok this is twice I've been ignored. Just going to park my vote here until 10mins before lynch time. Let's see what happens.

##unvote
##vote GlowingBear


like this is really fucking weird



You bitch about me switching to GB, then now bitch about me switching off, which one did you want? I switched to GB due to reasons mentioned. I would of stayed there, but BF's filter was scummy too. BF disappears before vote ended while GB kept defending himself, which made me second guess the vote and I switched to BF.

Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 20 2015 16:26 GMT
#2772
Day 2 Vote Count




GlowingBear (2): VayneAuthority, Holyflare, Breshke
Mig (1): GlowingBear
LightningStrike (1): Onegu
VayneAuthority (1): ruXxar
ShoCkeyy (1): VayneAuthority
Holyflare (0): GlowingBear
Onegu (0): GlowingBear

Not voted (9): rsoultin, Lohengramm, ritoky, ShoCkeyy, Damdred, NydusHerMain, Fidei86, Mig, LightningStrike

Clinging to the ledge, GlowingBear hangs over the abyss.
Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

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The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 20 2015 16:36 GMT
#2773
On June 21 2015 01:02 Holyflare wrote:
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On June 21 2015 00:58 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On June 21 2015 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
what do you mean in point 1? don't quite understand it, you didn't think he was mafia because he had a big filter? is that the only reason?


No, I never said I didn't think he was mafia when I vote switched. I gave him the benefit of the doubt due to meta. He himself claims that he doesn't like lynching the biggest filters on D1. So I tried what he normally does and it didn't work out well...


umm earlier you had a completely different reason for switching?

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On June 19 2015 09:26 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Sorry guys, was driving/eating dinner, going to catch up. I saw BF flipped town. So brings me back to this:

On June 19 2015 06:27 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 19 2015 06:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Ok this is twice I've been ignored. Just going to park my vote here until 10mins before lynch time. Let's see what happens.

##unvote
##vote GlowingBear


like this is really fucking weird



You bitch about me switching to GB, then now bitch about me switching off, which one did you want? I switched to GB due to reasons mentioned. I would of stayed there, but BF's filter was scummy too. BF disappears before vote ended while GB kept defending himself, which made me second guess the vote and I switched to BF.



Yea? Both reasons tie into each other? What are you trying to say?
Life?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 20 2015 17:34 GMT
#2774
how on earth do they tie into each other? one of them says you voted based on his policy of big filters not being lynched on day 1 (why did you even follow it if you scum or at least null read him???) and the other says you actually voted him based on his content and in game posts and reasoning

the two are definitely seperate
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 20 2015 17:38 GMT
#2775
I woke up

Shockey, answer me before I go diving: when did the big filter thing crossed your mind?
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 20 2015 17:38 GMT
#2776
Also, HF, why did you claim mason?
I'm adorable.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 20 2015 17:47 GMT
#2777
i didn't
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 20 2015 17:59 GMT
#2778
On June 17 2015 10:59 Holyflare wrote:
i'm not masons with ksc


You did.
I'm adorable.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 20 2015 18:03 GMT
#2779
it clearly says i'm not masons with ksc dude are you even reading?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 20 2015 18:27 GMT
#2780
Well let's see why you even pushing this makes you definitely mafia:

1) You were calling me mafia day 1 and throwing it around all the entire day. You especially did this night 1 yet had no problems with Kelsier at all. This never factored into anything you ever wrote.

2) You are now using the assumption that I'm alive to paint me negatively but there was only 1 kp that went off on a 2kp night. I could have easily been the shot with Kelsier. This looks incredibly like TMI that I may have not actually been the shot.

3) useless nitpicking at points that clearly don't affect anyone's alignment


If you answer to 1) is that you thought Onegu had claimed it with Kelsier then your original scum read on Onegu and your rescinding of that look incredibly like you were giving fake reasons to change your mind on him.
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