EPTif he's not mafia then the vote switches don't particularly mean much at all necessarily
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
if he's not mafia then the vote switches don't particularly mean much at all necessarily | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On June 20 2015 21:29 Holyflare wrote: i also don't know what to think of bugs replacement, what he's doing is pretty towny in theory and I think he's new but he seems to be just glossing over the peoples filters so i'm not sure what exactly to make of it For day 1 analysis, a lot of things are up in the air. It's very easy to read too much into something a person said and feel convinced it was a scumslip or had scum motivations. It's more important for find the overarching direction of a person and see whether their actions align with pro town or pro mafia. Things I specifically look for are : Pro town actions: Making substantiated reads, Usually town puts more effort into their reads than mafia. Asking questions, fishing for information. Answering questions, especially tough ones that doubts their reasoning. Does not give up easily when facing resistance. Mafia tells: Trying to create vote trains for wrong or weak reasons. Usually picking on 1 weak post from a player, or resorting to personal attacks. Throwing out votes on people without reason, hope other people pick up on it and make a case for them. Babbling, spam, pointless discussion. Deflecting attention from mafia friends. I know I'm a newbie still(this is my 2nd game), but this is how I currently think about the game. I'm sure a lot of it can be faked by either side, but if you look at peoples actions in the long run it should be possible to discern some kind of motive, and I find motive to be a very reliable indicator of people's alignments. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
I forgot to add that not doing pro town actions is by nature considered pro mafia. So people that are inactive are automatically hurting town, and are therefore pro mafia. | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
I'm honestly fine with lynching either shockey or GB today. Maybe shockey more than GB just because of the way he treats GB after the lynch like he doesn't seem to reconsider on him at all after a vote where a misslynch happened and GB was the counter wagon. So like Shockey can be mfia and GB could be town but I don't think GB can be mafia and shockey can be town. I feel like that's shit reasoning though so i'm going to vote GB anyway ##Vote Glowingbear | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On June 20 2015 22:26 Holyflare wrote: but yeh the main reason i'd prefer a gb lynch is because that's the world where everything makes sense and it's much more simple to follow that logic because i can't see any of these switches or the vote going like it did unless he is mafia if he's not mafia then the vote switches don't particularly mean much at all necessarily This is true I suppose  at least from a simplest explanation perspective which is why I get it bah lol ><I probably am just wrong on my read but if i'm right what then you know? I dunnae i'd really like the players not posting to.weigh in | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On June 20 2015 22:31 Breshke wrote: ruxxar can you pls pls do shockey analysis. Working on it, I didn't forget you. | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
I don't think if the bugs/ruxxar slot is scum that when ruxxar replaces in he flips his read on GB. I think this holds up no matter what GB's allighnment is because if GB is mafia then they would probs tell him they (his partners) were bussing and he would keep that up and if GB is town then his partners tell him to continue the push on GB. I'm shit with replacements. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On June 20 2015 22:34 rsoultin wrote: This is true I suppose at least from a simplest explanation perspective which is why I get it bah lol ><I probably am just wrong on my read but if i'm right what then you know? I dunnae i'd really like the players not posting to.weigh inthen we'll be in this what if turmoil for like 4 more days :s | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
On June 20 2015 22:42 Holyflare wrote: no idea how va can say these were pussy nk's when one of them didn't even go through btw unless he knows the other one somehow He also changes what he was trying to say about the NK's later on aswell. To saying that killing KSC was bad because he would just get modkilled. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
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ShoCkeyy
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When you're done giving your read on me, can you give your thoughts on Lohengramm? Seems like he's just MIA and no one has even talked about it. Ritoky, when I said I was rereading thread, I literally meant I was re-reading thread.There's currently 138 pages and out of all of them, Lohengramm has provided almost nothing useful and I want to see the new guys and your thoughts on him. This post here is his scummiest post: On June 18 2015 09:54 Lohengramm wrote: i started reading but then I stopped how useful is actually reading this game, exactly? 60 pages seems overkill for 24 hours LOL And he's pretty much been gone since this post. How are any of these posts town motivated? He's been gone from most of the game. On June 19 2015 08:27 Lohengramm wrote: pretty sure GB is mafia at this point maybe if you guys stop posting I can eventually read this game but let's be real, that's never going to happen | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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ShoCkeyy
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On June 20 2015 23:31 Holyflare wrote: Yeh he's bad. Shockey tell me what you think of gb at moment since you post like he's a town read but don't really talk about the lynch yesterday at all? Wait, didn't you read what I posted in regards to GB? I talked about the lynch there to. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On June 20 2015 23:32 ShoCkeyy wrote: Wait, didn't you read what I posted in regards to GB? I talked about the lynch there to. Yeh i read it and have 0 idea what it says. You seem to just complain at gb while talking to him like you town read him? | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
My shockey analysis: Pro town: Puts pressure on damdred. Puts pressure on Lightningstrike and was consistent in this for a long time. Tries to push through his question even when ignored: Makes an okay reads list Pro mafia: Rubbish reads list. Seems defensive about his inactivity, yet spends his time complaining instead of making contributions. Complains about rsoultin and her phone excuses. I think that's a weak argument to push against someone. No scum hunting, except for going after LS. Votes on GB because he's being ignored. Switches to boxerfred without reason Conclusions: Little contribution in his posts. Very defensive. Weak arguments in his accusations, relying a lot on what other people said. I find his vote switching from LS to GB really weird, after tunneling LS all game. A lot of negative emotions, like he's constantly angry at something. He did seem consistent in the way he acted so maybe that's just his natural self. Either way: Slight Scumlean | ||
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